• 01-08-2013
    Giant Chachi
    It's not too early! Giant in 2014?
    Just for fun…..Does anyone want to speculate what we will see from Giant in 2014?

    Of course for 2013 their big intro was the Trance X 29er which has seen some great reviews so far from the media, and is getting some really nice ride reports from actual owners as well. Great to see for sure if you are a fan of The Big G!

    But what kind of noise do you think Giant will bring for the 2014 model year? Is 650b on the table at Giant yet? Or will they hold off and ride with the 29ers for a while?

    2014 Giant Reign 27.5 anyone? :D
  • 01-09-2013
    plupp
    Giant Anthem X Advanced SL 29er
  • 01-09-2013
    BrentD
    I'll play!

    650b Reign with a slacker geometry (66-67 HA) that replaces both the Reign and Reign X possibly with a carbon option.

    Carbon Glory.
  • 01-09-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrentD View Post
    I'll play!

    650b Reign with a slacker geometry (66-67 HA) that replaces both the Reign and Reign X possibly with a carbon option.

    Carbon Glory.

    Thanks for playing fellas! Yeah, I think that would be my next bike right there......650b Reign!
  • 01-09-2013
    pharcyde
    Aluxx Mimetic polyalloy Anthem 36er ......................rawwwwwkus!!
  • 01-09-2013
    MTBeing
    Trance X29C (carbon) and a Trance X 29 '00 US version (because they already have it in Australia). Oh, and a new TdF sponsor since Rabobank bailed.
  • 01-09-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MTBeing View Post
    Trance X29C (carbon) and a Trance X 29 '00 US version (because they already have it in Australia). Oh, and a new TdF sponsor since Rabobank bailed.

    Wow, didn't know they had the 00 version! Nice! I like it, the spec and the paint too!
  • 01-10-2013
    IRLMtb'er
    650b, 12mm rear thru axle...
  • 01-10-2013
    Krunk_Kracker
    I'm hoping for a Yukon FX 29er...
  • 01-10-2013
    rideitall
    I'm with some of the other people posting on the 650B. I would be interested in either a TranceX 650 or a Reign 650, but must be slackened out some. The Reign at 66 degrees and the TranceX at 66.5 or 67.

    I know some folks already are running 650 on Reign it does seem pretty tight on the back. Maybe a current TranceX with 650 front and 26 on the back would provide some of the benefits of rolling a larger front wheel and also slacken out the bike a bit up front. Just need a Fox 34 or similar 650 fork.
  • 01-10-2013
    jps
    Would like to see AnthemX 29 with 17.9 chainstays and lower standover, ala the Trance 29. That would make my size Large have a wheelbase around 44, make it easier to manual/pull front wheel, and turn better in the tight stuff. Rode a SC Tallboy Carbon recently and realized it had great geometry with short stays, short wheelbase, and great standover. Didn't realize until recently that Giant made the stays on the Trance 29 shorter than the AnthemX., so I hope it is a possiblity. All reviews I read on the AnthemX29 all mention the long chainstays as a negative. Must say I love the reasonable prices Giant offers, and I like my AnthemX29 in most situations, just think it could be better. :thumbsup:
  • 01-10-2013
    Giant Chachi
    jps, that is my one complaint with my Anthem......it won't manual. I know, I know, maybe it's me. But with it being a 29er and the long chainstays, getting the front end up is a biatch. That is why the Trance is so appealing I think, is that has more of that "trail bike" aspect to it.

    I get to demo a Trance 29er on Saturday actually, on some real trails even. I am looking forward to having a go with it.

    Great posts guys! Keep them coming! You never know if Giant reads these forums for ideas from real comsumers. Tell them what you want to see in production!
  • 01-11-2013
    Cotharyus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    that is my one complaint with my Anthem......it won't manual. I know, I know, maybe it's me.

    It might be you, but it's not just you. I'm glad it's not just me either. I can't manual my Anthem "just because" - I have to have a little help from the trail. It can be done under certain circumstances, but in my view, that's not really a manual.
  • 01-11-2013
    Tone's
    More shocking colours and graphic designs are the only thing thats a cert at this point, the graphic designers in first year uni are probably nutting them out as we speak and giant will select the worst ones to use on their bikes.......
  • 01-11-2013
    MTBeing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    More shocking colours and graphic designs are the only thing thats a cert at this point, the graphic designers in first year uni are probably nutting them out as we speak and giant will select the worst ones to use on their bikes.......

    The good thing about this is if you crash and are immobile a helicopter can easily spot you.
  • 01-11-2013
    fahza29er
    More availability on frame sets and better prices 1400 for a AnthemX frame or 1800 for full bike really?
  • 01-11-2013
    limba
    A cross bike with discs.
  • 01-11-2013
    Jimmy V
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrentD View Post
    I'll play!

    650b Reign with a slacker geometry (66-67 HA) that replaces both the Reign and Reign X possibly with a carbon option.

    Carbon Glory.

    This, or someone else will get my hard earned $$$$.
  • 01-11-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Giant? Are you there? A 650b Reign is being asked for. Could you please make one for us? That would be great. Thank you!

    Signed,

    This Thread

    Definitely a trend here, even in just a few posts.
  • 01-11-2013
    Silentfoe
    I agree that there will most likely be an Anthem Advanced SL X29er. The rear tri will be carbon but no other change.

    I also agree that Giant will go carbon across the board, Glory, Reign and Trance. I don't think Giant will jump on the 27.5 bandwagon yet.
  • 01-11-2013
    lucifuge
    my best guess is

    - at least a composite (possibly an advanced) Trance 29er
    - 650b Trance
    - 650b Anthem
  • 01-11-2013
    911Holy$
    anthem x 29 with shorter chainstays. redesigned rear like the trance. liven the handling up a tad. what i'd like to see
  • 01-11-2013
    mtbeagle
    I don't know, silentfoe, I'm guessing a 650b Reign but not a 650b in shorter travel bikes (Trance, Anthem). I would think a carbon Trance 29er, but I would think it would be like the Anthem and have an ALUXX rear triangle.
  • 01-11-2013
    Tone's
    Why does everybody seem to think a 650b is coming? i doubt it very much....
  • 01-11-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Why does everybody seem to think a 650b is coming? i doubt it very much....

    Don't you think those very same words were said about a 29er too? I bet so, and look where we are now. I would guess that the big boys may come to the table a little later, but they'll all be there eventually. It may not be 2014, but it will be shortly after I would guess. My $.02 anyways.
  • 01-11-2013
    Tone's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Don't you think those very same words were said about a 29er too? I bet so, and look where we are now. I would guess that the big boys may come to the table a little later, but they'll all be there eventually. It may not be 2014, but it will be shortly after I would guess. My $.02 anyways.

    Giant have already shown by ditching nearly all the 26ers that they will only produce bikes that will sell, do you think they will sell more 650bs than 26ers ?
    650BS have a small range of tyres that can be bought for them and i would suggest a have a small market to sell them to.
    For the record i think 650bs are an ideal wheel size, im all for them, but i lack faith that giant will produce them until they become more main stream, i hope im wrong.
  • 01-11-2013
    Satanic Pizza
    Giant seems pretty resistant to jump on trends unless they can justify it with a performance benefit- example is their lack of 12mm thru axle rears. If they have determined that 650b doesn't offer enough of an advantage over 29er, or they can't figure out the geometry (I don't know if they have a history designing bikes with 650b) then maybe they won't.

    But I really hope they fix their deteriorating graphic design choices... the bikes for 2013 are baaaaad. I gave up my beautiful '11 XTC for a new 13 model but it was bittersweet ; )
  • 01-11-2013
    limba
    Giant won't do 650B until a full year after everyone else does it.
  • 01-11-2013
    Tone's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by limba View Post
    Giant won't do 650B until a full year after everyone else does it.

    DING DING DING, we have a winner....
    Spot on Limba...
  • 01-11-2013
    PerthMTB
    Only a small thing, but I'd like to see a direct mount rear derailleur hanger. All newer models of Shimano RDs are capable of being mounted in this way, it just needs Giant to come out with the swept back hanger. And as it's separate to the frame anyway, it can be retro-fitted to existing bikes.

  • 01-15-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by limba View Post
    Giant won't do 650B until a full year after everyone else does it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    DING DING DING, we have a winner....
    Spot on Limba...

    Who is "everybody"? I ask, because it is obvious that while not everybody is jumping in, a whole bunch of them are! Look at the whips out already from KHS, Norco, Jamis, and so many more! I know, that short list doesn't include some of the big boys, and maybe that is your point with saying everyone.......Specialized, Giant and Trek aren't in the mix yet. I just keep seeing the beginnings of something big with the 650b, and within a couple of years, absoutely everyone will be doing it. Look at the list of 650b tires that are scheduled to come out this year! Support of aftermarket products is almost there already, and that alone can drive the primary market.
  • 01-15-2013
    Krunk_Kracker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Who is "everybody"? I ask, because it is obvious that while not everybody is jumping in, a whole bunch of them are! Look at the whips out already from KHS, Norco, Jamis, and so many more! I know, that short list doesn't include some of the big boys, and maybe that is your point with saying everyone.......Specialized, Giant and Trek aren't in the mix yet. I just keep seeing the beginnings of something big with the 650b, and within a couple of years, absoutely everyone will be doing it. Look at the list of 650b tires that are scheduled to come out this year! Support of aftermarket products is almost there already, and that alone can drive the primary market.

    Scott has a 650b as well.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
  • 01-15-2013
    Jimmy V
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Who is "everybody"? I ask, because it is obvious that while not everybody is jumping in, a whole bunch of them are! Look at the whips out already from KHS, Norco, Jamis, and so many more! I know, that short list doesn't include some of the big boys, and maybe that is your point with saying everyone.......Specialized, Giant and Trek aren't in the mix yet. I just keep seeing the beginnings of something big with the 650b, and within a couple of years, absoutely everyone will be doing it. Look at the list of 650b tires that are scheduled to come out this year! Support of aftermarket products is almost there already, and that alone can drive the primary market.

    This is what I'm thinking, but I'm just an old soldier.
    Giant needs to get off their 4th point of contact and be the 1st of the "Big 3" to do 650B.
    I can't see how they could lose, they should already be near completion on this.
    Eah, I'm not Giant sponsored, so I may be riding someone else's 27.5 / 650B.
    The Norco is very sweet, Intense looks well done, and Foes might appreciate my business as well.
    Ok venting is finished.
    Seriously though, be a hero and step up Giant.
  • 01-15-2013
    mtbeagle
    I may be reading way to much into this, but when I go to Giant's B2B website to order stuff, they have 650b mountain bike tires, 650b mountain bike tubes, and 650b mountain bike wheels that you can order from Giant. Maybe that doesn't mean anything, but it seems to me that it at least means that Giant is aware of the 650b market.
  • 01-15-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbeagle View Post
    I may be reading way to much into this, but when I go to Giant's B2B website to order stuff, they have 650b mountain bike tires, 650b mountain bike tubes, and 650b mountain bike wheels that you can order from Giant. Maybe that doesn't mean anything, but it seems to me that it at least means that Giant is aware of the 650b market.

    Really? Hmmmm, very interesting, and seemingly telling about the future from Giant. Thanks for the tip! Now double check that this isn't proprietary info, and please, keep going! I'm all ears....or eyes anyways!
  • 01-15-2013
    limba
    Yes, when I say everybody I mean the big boys, brands comparable to Giant, GIANT corporations. Trek, Spec, Cannondale... those type of manufacturers.
  • 01-16-2013
    ptkevin
    Talking with my local bike shop, it sounds as if they are pretty sure that the next GIant Reign will be done in 650b. I was told could be announced and in production by summer. This bike shop was correct in the last thing they told me early about a Giant bike, so I have pretty good confidence that they are in the loop on this topic. That would be an exiting bike!
  • 01-16-2013
    mtbeagle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Now double check that this isn't proprietary info, and please, keep going! I'm all ears....or eyes anyways!

    It isn't proprietary info and like I said it may not mean anything. Giant is a distributor for a lot of parts and accessories. I really don't have any inside information, I am just guessing that since they carry 650b stuff they are aware of the market.

    When Giant came out with their first 29ers the story I got was that Giant didn't come out with a 29er earlier because of problems that needed to be solved. With tapered steer tubes, and 15mm thru-axles, and then Giant's own stiffer wheels they were then able to produce a good 29er. With 650b those technologies are already there so they should not hold them back.
  • 01-16-2013
    Jimmy V
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ptkevin View Post
    Talking with my local bike shop, it sounds as if they are pretty sure that the next GIant Reign will be done in 650b. I was told could be announced and in production by summer. This bike shop was correct in the last thing they told me early about a Giant bike, so I have pretty good confidence that they are in the loop on this topic. That would be an exiting bike!

    This sounds great!
    It also make good since. To me anyway.
    :^P
  • 01-17-2013
    lucifuge
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    DING DING DING, we have a winner....
    Spot on Limba...

    Yes, this supersedes my listed wishes. It's true. Giant are smart in that they await to see what others do first and then market what others seem to sell. So although I'd like to see 650bs in some models, it probably won't be anytime soon
  • 01-17-2013
    mtbeagle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ptkevin View Post
    Talking with my local bike shop, it sounds as if they are pretty sure that the next GIant Reign will be done in 650b. I was told could be announced and in production by summer. This bike shop was correct in the last thing they told me early about a Giant bike, so I have pretty good confidence that they are in the loop on this topic. That would be an exiting bike!

    I bet your shop is right.
  • 01-18-2013
    VERT1
    I wouldn't be surprised if Giant does nothing for their MTB 2014 range, but has some changes in the Road range. They seem to alternate between Road and MTB each year.
  • 01-18-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VERT1 View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Giant does nothing for their MTB 2014 range, but has some changes in the Road range. They seem to alternate between Road and MTB each year.

    Nice! By this theory, I would say 2014 will be an MTB year, considering they just released the 2013 TCR Advanced SL! Sweet looking ride for sure! Just thinking positively VERT1! :thumbsup:
  • 01-19-2013
    Iqbal624
    But they also just released a trance x 29r.

    I hope for 2014 they go to 142x12. Well, maybe I don't... Because then that means that my trance x that I just ordered will be worth less...
  • 01-19-2013
    Silentfoe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Iqbal624 View Post
    But they also just released a trance x 29r.

    I hope for 2014 they go to 142x12. Well, maybe I don't... Because then that means that my trance x that I just ordered will be worth less...

    And...3 new carbon Anthems and a completely redesigned XTC Advanced SL 29er. Also several new MTB wheelsets to include a carbon set. Very big year for Giant in 2013.

    142x12 may be necessary for lesser suspension designs but it's a wasted on a dual short link like the Maestro. Negligible stiffness increase, added weight and you'll need more expensive hubs in your wheels. Glad they didn't bend to the marketing hype.
  • 01-19-2013
    mtbeagle
    I think that alternating between road and mountain is a thing of the past. Giant has a new road bike, the Propel and women's Envie that they officially released this weekend. This was a major effort for the road, and like silentfoe said there were a lot of new mountain items this year. Also you had the 29er Anthem new the year before.
  • 01-20-2013
    Tbraithwaite
    Ooh boy it's like Christmas! How about a carbon Tance 29er, I would like to drop a few more pounds even though it is pretty light already.
  • 02-01-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Just thought this was an intersting tie-in to the conversation here. Some of you may have seen this already, but in case you missed it......

    pinkbike.com interviewed the Giant Factory Off-Road team manager and they specifically asked him about Giant and the 27.5 trend. I know this guy isn't a R&D guy or product designer, but he works with the factory off-road team, which certainly would be the proving ground of just about anything new they are working on, as they did with Adam Craig and the Trance X 29er. Check it out, and let me know your interpretation of what he says:

    Interview: Joe Staub - Giant Factory Off-Road Team Manager - Pinkbike
  • 02-01-2013
    mevadus
    I also hope Giant has a different wheel size for the Anthem besides 29" by 2015. I stand 5'5.25, and feel I would look foolish on a small size frame with 29" wheels. I've come to realize my 2009 Anthem X1 is slowly becoming obsolete, since I am already having difficulty finding a 110mm to 120mm, 26" Fox fork with a lockout option. I would like a new bike after I leave Alaska and move back to Florida, and an Anthem X Advanced 650b 0 composite :D would very much suit my needs/wants.
  • 02-02-2013
    Cotharyus
    Mevadus, I think you may be worrying too much about what things might look like. Why not try to find one and ride it? My wife rides a small sized Talon 29er, and it doesn't look silly at all.

    That said, looking at the interview, I'd say Giant isn't going to show up with any 650b bikes for 2014.
  • 02-02-2013
    skidad
    I'm also (really) hoping for a 650B Reign. Love the Maestro design. Not sure without looking what the current HA is but I would say make it 67.5 and then with an angle set or different fork lengths you can get almost anything reasonable. BB height 13.5+. I'd rather see 13.75" for where I live (New England). 12x142 would be nice also. I'm REALLY tempted by the new 140mm Banshee Spitfire but I know as soon as I buy one Giant will announce a 150mm 650B Reign. The Banshee is a killer bike though and if you look at the linkage graphs for the new KS Link, the Giant and the Mojo HD all are very similar and outstanding.

    Scroll down to the Banshee Rune and the graphs include the Giant and HD also Google Translate

    Since Fox has announced a lightweight 140mm 650B fork rest assured there are 140mm bikes in the pipeline and most likely from a few of the big boys. Pretty sure Santa Cruz is doing a 650B bike also.
  • 02-02-2013
    rideit
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cotharyus View Post

    That said, looking at the interview, I'd say Giant isn't going to show up with any 650b bikes for 2014.

    Well, seeing as there are a number of proto 650's right now in the US, you can read between the lines here:

    "I'd suspect at most of the European events you'll see a lot of the guys on a longer travel bike that's not a 29er."
  • 02-02-2013
    Silentfoe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    12x142 would be nice also.

    Can you articulate why? I agree that it would be essential on some bikes with different rear suspension designs but not on a dual short link like the Maestro. Any company that uses a DSL design and puts a 12x142 rear axle on it (short travel application), is bending to marketing hype. Look at the rear triangle on a Maestro equipped bike. It is a tiny, solid, aluminum triangle. It won't be any stiffer by putting a through axle on it. Just heavier and more expensive.
  • 02-02-2013
    mevadus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cotharyus View Post
    Mevadus, I think you may be worrying too much about what things might look like.

    There is definitely some truth to this. I generally try to gain my own opinions and perceptions on things before I listen to what others have to say, but I am currently in a location that is fairly isolated and with one local bike store that doesn't have much to offer. Thanks for the recommendation though.
  • 02-07-2013
    danmtchl
    From what I understand Giant and Shimano are teaming up to make Giants, Shimano only since Giant is so pro Shimano. This would be a horrible idea since not everyone is a fan of Shimano(me being one). I would not buy a Giant if this happened.
  • 02-07-2013
    rideit
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danmtchl View Post
    From what I understand Giant and Shimano are teaming up to make Giants, Shimano only since Giant is so pro Shimano. This would be a horrible idea since not everyone is a fan of Shimano(me being one). I would not buy a Giant if this happened.

    Hah, seeing as Team Giant is 100% Sram, that is pretty hilarious!
  • 02-08-2013
    danmtchl
    I know they are SRAM now but traditionally Giant has been using Shimano on team bikes forever. This is what a Giant rep told me when I was in the shop.
  • 02-08-2013
    rideit
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danmtchl View Post
    I know they are SRAM now but traditionally Giant has been using Shimano on team bikes forever. This is what a Giant rep told me when I was in the shop.

    To be fair, Previously SRAM products weren't quite 'there', not only in performance, but in capability of providing product and support throughout the global race season (the team is global, after all...try getting a a new short cage XT derailleur in South Africa in, say, 2008).
    It has as much to do with sponsorship and product support/logistics as with product choice.
  • 02-08-2013
    enfig
    It's not too early! Giant in 2014?
    I'm hoping for a Giant Anthem 29'er with revised geometry: shorter chainstays and lower stand over height.
  • 02-08-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danmtchl View Post
    From what I understand Giant and Shimano are teaming up to make Giants, Shimano only since Giant is so pro Shimano. This would be a horrible idea since not everyone is a fan of Shimano(me being one). I would not buy a Giant if this happened.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danmtchl View Post
    I know they are SRAM now but traditionally Giant has been using Shimano on team bikes forever. This is what a Giant rep told me when I was in the shop.

    Hmmmm, that doesn’t sound quite right there buddy. Here is some info for you:


    Quote:

    All Factory Team bikes will be “Powered by SRAM” featuring the latest cutting edge components including SRAM drivetrains, Truvativ componentry, Avid brakes and RockShox suspension. Other sponsors include DT Swiss wheelsets and Schwalbe tires. Fox Head will supply apparel for gravity and enduro events, and DNA Cycling will supply XC race kits.
    That quote is from an article on Giant’s website, found here:

    Giant Factory Team Expands for 2013! - News | Giant Bicycles / Fahrräder | Deutschland

    That article, as you can see, is for the 2013 season. So, unless the rep you spoke too is just messing with you, I would have to say he is wrong. Sorry bro.
  • 02-08-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Alright, anyone want to play the wild speculation game? What is Adam Craig riding?

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/I-pQXopk5AY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    I haven't given it a close review yet, but will soon. Odd color frame, but could just be a special Trance for him. Any thoughts?
  • 02-08-2013
    rideit
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Alright, anyone want to play the wild speculation game? What is Adam Craig riding?

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/I-pQXopk5AY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    I haven't given it a close review yet, but will soon. Odd color frame, but could just be a special Trance for im. Any thoughts?

    That's last year's Reign. His 13' 29Trance X is carbon black.
  • 02-08-2013
    rollinrob
    I am 5'3 and change and have ridden over 900 miles on my Giant trance x29er 1 that got in August. Bike has been AMAZING. Its eadly the most fun bike I have ridden. Don't let the fact that it a 29 dissuede you from trying one. You just may be surprised.
  • 02-23-2013
    ducktape
    I'm hoping Giant brings back the 26" XTC in Aus, and more choice in 26" HT's in general.

    Currently if I wanted to buy a 26" HT, which I might have considered doing this year, my only choice is a relatively low end Giant Boulder. Doesn't exactly inspire me to go out and want to buy a new bike which would be heavier with lesser components than my old single speed with rim brakes that I'm riding now!

    Just bring more 26"ers back, that's all.
  • 02-23-2013
    Tone's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ducktape View Post
    I'm hoping Giant brings back the 26" XTC in Aus, and more choice in 26" HT's in general.

    Currently if I wanted to buy a 26" HT, which I might have considered doing this year, my only choice is a relatively low end Giant Boulder. Doesn't exactly inspire me to go out and want to buy a new bike which would be heavier with lesser components than my old single speed with rim brakes that I'm riding now!

    Just bring more 26"ers back, that's all.

    Sorry Ducktape, not gonna happen, the reign is the only decent 26er that giant sell in oz, and even that will be gone soon, i agree is disappointing but its the way its going..
  • 02-24-2013
    pharcyde
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Alright, anyone want to play the wild speculation game? What is Adam Craig riding?

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/I-pQXopk5AY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    I haven't given it a close review yet, but will soon. Odd color frame, but could just be a special Trance for him. Any thoughts?

    Im calling "650b REIGN X" with what looks like a CCBB shock and RS Rev fork. Front on shot at 1:52 and side on shot at 2:23 both look very suspiciously like bigger wheels.

    Undoubtedly it is a stock frame, minus the XO decals and a changed rear rocker arm/triangle. After the hype from last year and the TX29 protos that AC was riding, this wouldnt be "out of the norm" for Giant to allow such close ups of a bike in a inconspicuous random video. Mark my words, this is the beginning of the Giant 650b hype.
  • 02-24-2013
    maxforce
    I hope they make a 36er. 29 just ain't big enough.
  • 02-24-2013
    Cotharyus
    I actually have to side with ducktape right now. I'm in the middle of buying my son an upgrade (upsize) from his 24" bike. He can ride my wife's small size talon, but the 29" wheel is just too much for him. So he's getting a small sized Revel 1. I'd get him something that has a little nicer components on it, and weighed less than 30lbs, but no one makes it. You basically stop at the level of the Revel 1, and move to x9 stuff that's $1500+ - and I'm not going that far for a 10 year old. Anyhow, yes, more options in the 26" range would be nice.
  • 02-24-2013
    rideit
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Why does everybody seem to think a 650b is coming? i doubt it very much....

    Tell us why you doubt that. I'd be very curious to know.
  • 02-24-2013
    marsupilami
    Carbon Reign, it's about time,
  • 02-24-2013
    Banshee Rider
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Alright, anyone want to play the wild speculation game? What is Adam Craig riding?

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/I-pQXopk5AY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    I haven't given it a close review yet, but will soon. Odd color frame, but could just be a special Trance for him. Any thoughts?

    Nothing new to see. He used his teammates Reign X With 26" wheels for that promo video shoot.
  • 02-24-2013
    rideit
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Banshee Rider View Post
    Nothing new to see. He used his teammates Reign X With 26" wheels for that promo video shoot.


    Ummm...yeah, I covered that for you! ;--)
  • 02-24-2013
    GelatiCruiser
    Re: It's not too early! Giant in 2014?
    Hopefully an entry level bike that doesn't come in at 34.9 lbs like my Talon 2.
  • 02-25-2013
    Cotharyus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GelatiCruiser View Post
    Hopefully an entry level bike that doesn't come in at 34.9 lbs like my Talon 2.

    The Talon 0 is much ligher, and I'd still consider that entry level. It's all about the fork and components. The frame is pretty nice.
  • 02-28-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pharcyde View Post
    Im calling "650b REIGN X" with what looks like a CCBB shock and RS Rev fork. Front on shot at 1:52 and side on shot at 2:23 both look very suspiciously like bigger wheels.

    Undoubtedly it is a stock frame, minus the XO decals and a changed rear rocker arm/triangle. After the hype from last year and the TX29 protos that AC was riding, this wouldnt be "out of the norm" for Giant to allow such close ups of a bike in a inconspicuous random video. Mark my words, this is the beginning of the Giant 650b hype.

    I like your way of thinking! I saw it like you did, referencing back to the TX29 videos with the glimpse of a new ride here and there. A teaser of sorts. Great marketing in my opinion.....create the buzz quietly, and then drop the hammer when no one is looking.

    With Enduro coming on so strong and so quickly, Giant has to have something up their sleeve. I don't think they will wait around like they did with the 29er. Especially fielding an enduro team, but no real trail/enduro bike to fit the bill. Don't get me wrong, they have a number of capable bikes to run the enduro series, but why not use this new marketing and bring out a new hot seller?
  • 03-04-2013
    ozlongboarder
    I have a 2011 Anthem X 29er with a 2012 frame under warranty. I have been thinking of upgrading to the Advanced 1 Carbon as I can get it for $3300 AUD. However my LBS suggested I wait till the new models come out as he is predicting some changes to the Anthem. He was not specific and said he had no insider info but just they have been making them for 3 years now and hew would expect a significant redesign.

    Any thoughts?
  • 03-05-2013
    Giant Chachi
    ozlongboarder, if it were me, I would probably wait. Well, I am waiting. I love my Anthem, but am thinking of something with a bit more slack and a bit more.....yes, the enduro/all-mountain/trail bike that everyone seems to be gravitating to. From the info that is out there, where actually in print or reading between the lines, I am thinking that something different is coming. Now, I certainly would think that after the Trance X29er this year, a new Anthem could be next, and would make sense too. But, so would some other variations too. Hard to say at this point, that is for sure!
  • 03-05-2013
    ptkevin
    I spoke with my local Giant dealer again last week about what they had told me a couple months ago, which was that there was a 650b Giant going to be announced this summer/fall. They are in the loop, and they have been spot on in previous things they have told me. Giant will be the first of the big 3 to announce a 650b. They even had a closeout 26" trance that I was considering buying, but they told me that the 650b was around the corner. They know I like the bigger wheels, as I have a racey 29er hardtail. That Adam Craig video could definitely be the first of the mystery marketing videos. I am waiting for this Giant bike to be put out before buying my "fun" trail bike.
  • 03-06-2013
    Coach417
    I can't/won't buy an S-Works, so I need a Reign X29er. 150-160mm travel. Don't think it is out of the question. Maybe stock it with trickle down XX1.
  • 03-11-2013
    yarrahappinni
    Dear Mr Giant, please slacken the 26 trance x (carbon preferred) to 68deg with 140 forks (yes it is a trail bike not an xc bike), carbonize the Reign x to make it the enduro weapon (with float 34's and around 13kg would be fine thanks). For your good work we will leave our trusty Reign to rest in peace (you have served us well).
    Forget the stupid 650b stuff, you have your 29er clown bikes now, let's make the 26ers better.
  • 03-11-2013
    yarrahappinni
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yarrahappinni View Post
    Dear Mr Giant, please slacken the 26 trance x (carbon preferred) to 68deg with 140 forks (yes it is a trail bike not an xc bike), carbonize the Reign x to make it the enduro weapon (with float 34's and around 13kg would be fine thanks). For your good work we will leave our trusty Reign to rest in peace (you have served us well).
    Forget the stupid 650b stuff, you have your 29er clown bikes now, let's make the 26ers better.

    Apologies, and 1x11 drivetrain
  • 03-11-2013
    plupp
    I guess we are going to see one of the team riders on a 650B this year....
  • 03-13-2013
    Giant Chachi
    I found this little gem from about a year ago:

    Quote:

    Giant will not have any 650b bikes in 2013, but according to Andrew Juskaitis, Giant’s global product marketing manager, 2014 is another story.

    “For Giant, 650b is, for the foreseeable future, an intermediate wheel size, filling in those gaps where we can improve the ride of a 26” wheel but can’t fit a 29er wheel,” says Juskaitis. “650b belongs in certain applications—most likely, longer-travel applications where 29er wheels can’t/won’t fit properly. One thing is sure, we still believe in the 29er wheel size where it can fit.”
    2014? A different story for Giant and 650b? Hmmmm, you add all this up and I think the sum is beginning to look like Giant will have a 650b in the 2014 lineup. The question is, what will it be? Reign? Or, something entirely new? Keep guessing!

    Source for the story:
    Fox, RockShox, DT-Swiss, Schwalbe and Others Develop 650b gear | The Straight Dirt | MountainBike.com
  • 04-02-2013
    Giant Chachi
    So I'm sure you all saw the release of the Santa Cruz Bronson, their new 27.5 trail bike. Thoughts on whether this will further encourage the big G to make sure they enter the market with the right bike? This catagory is the hottest in MTB right now, and even companies that have denied getting into 27.5 in th past (Santa Cruz), are looking toward this catagory with pretty nice offerings. It's coming, whether you like it or not!
  • 04-02-2013
    danmtchl
    Giant will have 650B's in their 2014 lineup, so this summer you should see some.
  • 04-02-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danmtchl View Post
    Giant will have 650B's in their 2014 lineup, so this summer you should see some.

    Source? Details? I would love to know more, if you know it. Otherwise, I can say the same thing, and it doesn't mean it will happen. I just like the dirt/gossip/insider info! Thanks! :)
  • 04-02-2013
    Jimmy V
    Reign 650b ?
  • 04-02-2013
    mxzx121
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yarrahappinni View Post
    Dear Mr Giant, please slacken the 26 trance x (carbon preferred) to 68deg with 140 forks (yes it is a trail bike not an xc bike), carbonize the Reign x to make it the enduro weapon (with float 34's and around 13kg would be fine thanks). For your good work we will leave our trusty Reign to rest in peace (you have served us well).
    Forget the stupid 650b stuff, you have your 29er clown bikes now, let's make the 26ers better.

    Trance X Advanced (2013) - Bikes | Giant Bicycles | Canada

    Has the 140 fork.
  • 04-03-2013
    danmtchl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Source? Details? I would love to know more, if you know it. Otherwise, I can say the same thing, and it doesn't mean it will happen. I just like the dirt/gossip/insider info! Thanks! :)

    It was in a article on bicycle retailer online, but you can google it and you can find articles on the 650b for 2014.
  • 04-12-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Yup, they're here!
    Giant and 650b. Haters? Non-believers? Are you here? Good. Check this out:



    Picture from this article as the source:

    Giant Mountain And Cyclocross Prototypes Spotted - BikeRadar

    With further info and details from here:

    New Schedule, New Bikes, New Challenges for Adam Craig in 2013 | News | mountain-bike-action

    So naysayers? Got anything to say now? Here is a quote from Andrew Juskaitis of Giant:

    Quote:

    Giant’s senior product marketing manager Andrew Juskaitis was tight-lipped about the details of the prototypes on display. He would only disclose that the company has had them in the works for some time, and that Giant is wholeheartedly embracing 650B wheels.
    Bold by me, so you didn't miss it, just in case. :)

    My only question is, where is the 650b Reign? ;)
  • 04-12-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Another interesting quote, in the MBA article, with the picture (I know, MBA......):

    Quote:

    Will this end up being Adam Craig's go-to enduro bike for 2013? Giant was tight-lipped about the specifics of Craig's prototype 27-inch, 6-inch travel trailbike, but it's safe to say some version of this bike will make it to production sooner than later.
    And the picture:



    Hmmm, 6" travel? Isn't the Trance a 5" bike? How the HA angle? Looks more slack than the TX, do you think?
  • 04-12-2013
    danmtchl


    Looks like someone beat me to the punch, Giant's 650B bikes like I said.

    First Look: Giant's 27.5" Prototype Bikes - Pinkbike

    I"ll start taking apologies know, especially Giant Chachi. I know what I am talking about.
  • 04-19-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danmtchl View Post

    Looks like someone beat me to the punch, Giant's 650B bikes like I said.

    First Look: Giant's 27.5" Prototype Bikes - Pinkbike

    I"ll start taking apologies know, especially Giant Chachi. I know what I am talking about.

    You're saying that I should apologize to you? Really? In that case, please go back and re-read this thread that I started. I have been on your side the entire time.....I have believed that Giant would have a 650b out for 2014.....hence the reason for my OP and this thread. Sure, I called you out on your comment that you were certain of a Giant 650b, just because I like sources and simply stating that they will have one, typicallly isn't enought for me. I just wanted to know where you heard it, so I could put some credibility to it. But again danmtchl, I have been thinking just the same as you. Sorry, no apology will be given. Just a thanks for your posts! :)

    PS - I have even + repped you too! Come on bro! :confused:
  • 04-19-2013
    danmtchl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    You're saying that I should apologize to you? Really? In that case, please go back and re-read this thread that I started. I have been on your side the entire time.....I have believed that Giant would have a 650b out for 2014.....hence the reason for my OP and this thread. Sure, I called you out on your comment that you were certain of a Giant 650b, just because I like sources and simply stating that they will have one, typicallly isn't enought for me. I just wanted to know where you heard it, so I could put some credibility to it. But again danmtchl, I have been thinking just the same as you. Sorry, no apology will be given. Just a thanks for your posts! :)

    PS - I have even + repped you too! Come on bro! :confused:

    I did not mean it in a seriously, more in a joking matter. You gave me a hard time but was I knew Giant was coming out with them. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
  • 04-19-2013
    Giant Chachi
    Hey, no worries man! It's the interwebs.....I don't take much seriously at all. Heck, in life I don't either! Anyways, its good to be right, and now we will have a Giant 650b out in the near future. I will say, I am interesting in this bike that Adam is riding, and his mention of how he'll ride his Reign for most of the enduro season.....is that a tell tale sign that while they have shown this bike, that there could be others still to be introduced? I guess we have a better idea.....today possibly, from Sea Otter! Anyways, thanks danmtchl!
  • 04-19-2013
    yarrahappinni
    What happens when you run out of ideas? I know lets take an existing idea and claim it as new again.... lets build 650b bikes. Sure they will work well, I've ridden a converted Reign, seen a Trance done also but its not really innovative is it?

    Yes I will be buying one when its time to renew my Trance & Reign in the future (I won't have a choice) and will be happy. What I see is nice but Giant I want you to inspire me to buy a new bike and at this early stage I'm not feeling the love. Or maybe I should wait a bit longer to see the full story?
  • 04-19-2013
    Giant Chachi
    yarrahappinni, I don't think we have seen the end of Giant's innovation with 650b......wait, excuse me, Giant is using 27.5, not 650b. So, I would guess that we will see other version of a 27.5 bike from Giant. At this point, they have shown what looks like an Anthem X, an Anthem Women's and a Trance with the 27.5 wheel size. But this thread is evident that there is a large desire for a 27.5 Reign, as the ultimate trail/enduro machine. I think these releases at this point are just the beginning. Giant has also commented that they don't see supporting three wheel sizes and that one will have to go. Which will it be? I certainly would guess a 26" elimination, but who knows.

    I guess it just comes down to what is out there when you are ready to buy, or how long you can wait. The problem is, there is always something newer and better to get you excited and wanting to buy!
  • 04-19-2013
    yarrahappinni
    I don't doubt you're right Giant Chachi, I'm not asking for much other than the 2014 Reign to pedal like a Anthem and bomb like a Glory.

    I've held onto my 2011 Trance Advanced as I haven't seen a better XC/Trail bike come out of Giant land, but if the 2014 range offers a performance/ride improvement I will part with my money. As for my 2013 Reign I think some new 2014 bling is all it will need as out of the box it is a pretty good trail/AM bike anyway.
  • 04-19-2013
    plupp
    Dont forget the picture of XC rider Emils 650B XTC, even if it not showing the hole bike in the pic.
  • 04-20-2013
    bowseruni
    speculating here, announced if US summer, available to public when?