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    Hmmm, I'm intrigued by the Intrigue. Seriously, thanks for the info! This is some good stuff for sure and shows how committed that Giant is on the 27.5 tip. Hmmm, now to track down more info on this Intrigue. I think you may be onto something.....Adam Craig and maybe Josh Carlson's new toy they have been seen playing with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Hmmm, I'm intrigued by the Intrigue. Seriously, thanks for the info! This is some good stuff for sure and shows how committed that Giant is on the 27.5 tip. Hmmm, now to track down more info on this Intrigue. I think you may be onto something.....Adam Craig and maybe Josh Carlson's new toy they have been seen playing with.

    INTRIGUE Trademark Application of GIANT MANUFACTURING CO., LTD. - Serial Number 85965327 :: Justia Trademarks

    Only info I can find. And nothing about the bike

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    Someone posted this over on the weightweenies forum,
    Giant Bikes 2014 - Home

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    Interesting but the the colour choice the the XTC advanced 2 is hideous.

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    damn, most of them look unreal. might be a standout year upcoming for Giant

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    It's not too early! Giant in 2014?

    Bikes are nice, but I just got a new Anthem. So all I want to know is where to get that chain stay protector

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    shorter chainstays?

    Are the Anthems shown in the sneak peek 29 or 27.5? I can't tell. If 29er, did they shorten the chainstays, as the new one has a single brace on the triangle, whereas my 2012 has two braces either side. I know the Trance 29er has a single brace, AND shorter stays than the AX29er......I reallllyyy hope that Giant shortened the stays from the 18.2 to something sub 18! Can't wait for all the new 2014's!

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    It's not too early! Giant in 2014?

    Those Anthems are definitely 29ers
    99% of the problems and questions posted here would be answered if people actually walked into a bicycle shop and asked

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahza29er View Post
    Interesting but the the colour choice the the XTC advanced 2 is hideous.
    I don't know, I think it looks fast! Think Gulf Oil color scheme of the Porsche race cars:





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    http://nswmtb.asn.au/node/41761

    trance + anthems arriving in 650b and also in carbon

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    The xtc's have 27.5 on the tyres. The anthems dont have any size. Normal racing ralphs have 29 or 27.5 on them. The tyres "look" the same size in the pictures

    The frame is identicle to the 650b shown at the sea otter and different to the current anthem x advanced 29er frame.

    My tip is it is a 650b but giant scrubbed out the 27.5 on the tyres. I dont know why though

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    did u see my last reply?

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf View Post
    The xtc's have 27.5 on the tyres. The anthems dont have any size. Normal racing ralphs have 29 or 27.5 on them. The tyres "look" the same size in the pictures

    The frame is identicle to the 650b shown at the sea otter and different to the current anthem x advanced 29er frame.

    My tip is it is a 650b but giant scrubbed out the 27.5 on the tyres. I dont know why though

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    yes I saw your post. I was replying the post stating the photos of the anthems in the 2014 bike range link are 29ers. i dont think they are 29ers. your link shows pics from the sea otter which as we all know are 650b bikes.

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    coolio. that last article which references that event seems to suggest its a definite goer, that's all i meant. cheers

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf View Post
    yes I saw your post. I was replying the post stating the photos of the anthems in the 2014 bike range link are 29ers. i dont think they are 29ers. your link shows pics from the sea otter which as we all know are 650b bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    I don't know, I think it looks fast! Think Gulf Oil color scheme of the Porsche race cars:





    you've got to go way further back than that!



    But you're right, it (the bike) looks terrific!

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    not to mention the GT40


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    650b wars are really heating up

    Trek is in with some sweet looking "B" bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahza29er View Post
    Interesting but the the colour choice the the XTC advanced 2 is hideous.
    Internet photos are notorious for not doing justice to how a colour scheme and bike actually looks in the flesh. (It's amazing how much better certain bikes and colours look when the bike is sitting there in front of you).

    Although I agree that this paint job didn't grab me either, I'll reserve judgement until I see one.

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    I like the Gulf blue one personally. But yeah, internet photos are not a good indication of what the bike looks like. I did not at all like the 2013 Anthem X1 on the web, but in person I think it's a great looking bike.

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    Seems crazy if the XTC's are only offered in 27.5 rather than 29. Surely in a hard tail racer there will still be a 29 and now a 27.5 option too? 27.5 unless you are shorter in height and don't suit 29 inch wheels seems half ass if that makes sense. The whole 29 inch losing quickness over 26 inch in recent frame geometry and light weight wheel design is rubbish as an argument to go to a 27.5. My 29 is no different than my 26 as far as agility is concerned and as far as rolling over stuff, climbing and descending there is no comparison. My 26 was a XTC 1 too so no slouch but the 29 owns it everywhere and is just as fun too.

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    I thought I read (on the internet, so take it for what it's worth) that all of the 29ers will be offered in 27.5 *as well*. I agree there is no sense in dropping the XTC 29er from the line-up

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob1035 View Post
    I thought I read (on the internet, so take it for what it's worth) that all of the 29ers will be offered in 27.5 *as well*. I agree there is no sense in dropping the XTC 29er from the line-up
    That's the impression I got from a Giant rep. If I'm not mistaken the women's lineup will be all 27.5

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    I guess what I am looking for, and why I have been considering a 27.5 is the word "playful". I hear it used, and want that feeling. I love my Anthem X 29er by all means, as it is a great bike. But it feels so long.....long wheelbase, long chainstays, etc. I come from a BMX background (years ago, of course) and I want that feeling that I can pop over roots or hit drops with ease. I feel that I can't get the front end of my Anthem up very well at all, and other bikes I have tried I can. At first, I thought it was me, but after reading other comments from AX29 owners, there is no doubt I am not alone on this.

    So it is with that that I consider and look toward a 5"-6" travel, more slack, trail bike, and 27.5 was something that I am very interested in. By no means am I an awesome rider or anything, but I think my skills and the terrain I ride have moved past my AX29. Again, not saying that I am a bad-ass rider or anything, but I think my riding style and the terrain I ride are more suited to something different than the AX29. I wasn't sure if playful was something that a 29er could be, but maybe I am wrong.

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    Coming where? Giant has 650B bikes for 2014 already prepared and ready to go. I am less interested now that I've bought and ridden an Anthem X 29'er being a XC singletrack mtb'er myself. Still, 650B will be around. It may replace 26" in many cases, or at least be the preffered option vs 26" in many platforms, for many people, but I highly doubt it will ever replace 29'ers.

    Anyhow, I look forward to seeing the new 2014 Giant lineup. In Canada unfortunately we don't see much until later. I suppose if there is an Expo Cycle Show in Toronto again this fall I will check Giant out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Playful. Quick. More slack.
    What about a Tx29? I hear you on wanting something more playful than a pure XC racer type bike.

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    Even better.....

    Trance - Giant Bikes 2014

    From PeterMarv, in the Giant 650b thread......He is my hero!
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    I see some type of chain guide/tensioner on the 1.. can we assume there are iscg tabs on the frame?

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    Really nice looking bikes. Love the XO version

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    Guess who just had his grubby little paws all up in a 2014 Giant Dealer Catalog. Yep. Stopped by the bike shop on the way home from doing some trail building (I told you my paws were all grubby!) and they were just putting it together and putting the price stickers in it. So, a few notes:

    The Intrigue is a womens 27.5 Trance.

    There are a LOT of 27.5 models.
    There are a LOT of bikes featuring Shimano group sets.
    The Trance SX (there's an Advance SX too) is really freaking expensive. But it has trail brakes and a 160mm fork, but it looks like it's still the same frame. Only available in 27.5.
    Most Trance 27.5 models feature adjustable 120-140 travel forks. HT angles are 70 degrees. CS is 17.3.
    There is no Reign.
    The Reign X1 is actually more appealing to me from a price/warranty/performance stand point than any of the Trances.


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    Cotharyus, did you see the Trance SX was a Satin Bronze color and not the matte black? Some good posts in The Original PinchFlat's thread in the 650b/27.5 page too. But they did show a Reign X0 in the catalog though.
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    Did you see the Giant Trance X29 O? What were the color schemes? Man, I am excited to get a new bike. Come on August...

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    Yep. But I'm not one to buy the top line bike usually. I'll buy something mid-line or where I get the best value for my money, and usually (not always) the top isn't it. Get the good frame, mid-line (x7) components....all that will work well, and when stuff wears out or breaks I can upgrade it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    I guess what I am looking for, and why I have been considering a 27.5 is the word "playful". I hear it used, and want that feeling. I love my Anthem X 29er by all means, as it is a great bike. But it feels so long.....long wheelbase, long chainstays, etc. I come from a BMX background (years ago, of course) and I want that feeling that I can pop over roots or hit drops with ease. I feel that I can't get the front end of my Anthem up very well at all, and other bikes I have tried I can. At first, I thought it was me, but after reading other comments from AX29 owners, there is no doubt I am not alone on this.

    So it is with that that I consider and look toward a 5"-6" travel, more slack, trail bike, and 27.5 was something that I am very interested in. By no means am I an awesome rider or anything, but I think my skills and the terrain I ride have moved past my AX29. Again, not saying that I am a bad-ass rider or anything, but I think my riding style and the terrain I ride are more suited to something different than the AX29. I wasn't sure if playful was something that a 29er could be, but maybe I am wrong.

    Playful. Quick. More slack.
    Heh - they've been making the Reign for YEARS.

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    Good stuff right here - thanks for the info!!

    any chance you snuck a peak and gleened any trance 29er data as well?

    thanks

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    Any info on Anthem bikes?

    29er Advanced?
    27.5 Advanced?

    Any info on suspension/drivetrain? Rotor Cranks like the TCX?

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    The trance has a 70 degree hta? That seems a bit steep!

    Oh ya, is there a frame only option?

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    Warning! Warning! The head angles in the dealer books handed out at the dealer event are a misprint. I rode the bikes and spoke with the product manager. They are not 70 degrees. Far-far from it. Hang tight for the real angles in 1 week or so when the product is officially announced.

    It tricked me too, I rode the bike and couldn't believe it was 70 degrees, turned out it wasn't.
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    Re: It's not too early! Giant in 2014?

    My last cal dealer said it's 67* angle

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    I just saw pics at my LBS. Lots of black bikes in the new line up. I am glad I got my trance 1 x29 last year..
    The Carbon Trance advanced 27.5 looks sick, black, charcoal, 1x11 drivetrain with a 140 mm front fork.

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    +1. That's the bike for me!

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    I too want see pics of the 29ers. If they make a matt black trance x 29er advanced 1 with XT/Fox like the 27.5 that will be my next bike

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    if these Trance's are a definite (ie 26" + 27.5") then i'd be shocked if they add a 3rd wheelsize, ie 29er.

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    I believe the Trance 26inch wheel size bike has been dropped, only 27.5 and 29
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    if these Trance's are a definite (ie 26" + 27.5") then i'd be shocked if they add a 3rd wheelsize, ie 29er.

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    have u seen post #227?

    Quote Originally Posted by eruizela View Post
    I believe the Trance 26inch wheel size bike has been dropped, only 27.5 and 29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotharyus View Post
    Guess who just had his grubby little paws all up in a 2014 Giant Dealer Catalog. Yep. Stopped by the bike shop on the way home from doing some trail building (I told you my paws were all grubby!) and they were just putting it together and putting the price stickers in it. So, a few notes:

    The Intrigue is a womens 27.5 Trance.

    There are a LOT of 27.5 models.
    There are a LOT of bikes featuring Shimano group sets.
    The Trance SX (there's an Advance SX too) is really freaking expensive. But it has trail brakes and a 160mm fork, but it looks like it's still the same frame. Only available in 27.5.
    Most Trance 27.5 models feature adjustable 120-140 travel forks. HT angles are 70 degrees. CS is 17.3.
    There is no Reign.
    The Reign X1 is actually more appealing to me from a price/warranty/performance stand point than any of the Trances.


    If you've got questions, I'll try to answer them from memory. Which means don't ask me for prices. I remember the SX bikes were $6K, the Reign X1 was $3.8K.
    Anthem X 29ers for 2014? Multiple spec levels? Alum and plastic?

    Thanks for any info you can recall!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifuge View Post
    have u seen post #227?
    All the bikes in the link are 27.5. Giant have previously said no more 26 in the models listed

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    fark, my bad. i assumed top 2 were 26" as only last one said 27.5.

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf View Post
    All the bikes in the link are 27.5. Giant have previously said no more 26 in the models listed

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    Quote Originally Posted by stop619 View Post
    Anthem X 29ers for 2014? Multiple spec levels? Alum and plastic?

    Thanks for any info you can recall!

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    Yes. Yes. Lots of Shimano. Looks like the AL is getting a 1 and 3 this year, I remember no specifics on the spec, only that I was glad I'd bought my 2 this year. (warning, I'm a bit of a sram fan when it comes to components, there's something about the newer XT stuff from shimano that just feels cheap to me)

    Trances are available in AL and carbon, 27.5 and 29.

    XTC is available in AL and carbon, 27.5 and 29.

    I do think the HTA is wrong in the book for the Trance, because a mechanic and I were both scratching our heads saying it doesn't LOOK like 70, and that'd be pretty agressive considering the Anthem 29er is 70.5.

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    Has anyone seen if they've updated the AL Anthem's frame? (Specifically, in the top tube to seat tube junction)?
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    Man i am glad i didn't buy the trance 29er , I can not wait !

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    Any upgrades or so on the trance 29 for 2014?

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    So was there a carbon Trance 29 (someone mentioned earlier)? I was at a shop and we were looking through the dealer website yesterday, but didn't see that one in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRogge View Post
    Has anyone seen if they've updated the AL Anthem's frame? (Specifically, in the top tube to seat tube junction)?
    Why did yours break there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fontarin View Post
    So was there a carbon Trance 29 (someone mentioned earlier)? I was at a shop and we were looking through the dealer website yesterday, but didn't see that one in there.
    Yes there is. AFAIK, the full lineup of 2014 bikes is not on the website yet, only some Talon models.

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    Just got back from Deer Valley where Giant showed all the 2014 bikes to the dealers. Like others have said there are a LOT of 27.5 bikes. I'd give you a rundown but Giant asked that we not give out names of bikes and specs until August after they have given the media a chance to report on the bikes. I got to ride several of the bikes and the public has a chance to ride the bikes today (July 21,2013) in Deer Valley. The new 27.5 bikes are amazing. I loved the light weight bike, it is my kind of bike. The SX bike was a great downhill machine, and in climb mode was extremely good at climbing. Giant is going big with 27.5. If you are in Utah and you can get out to Deer Valley today, go demo the new bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotharyus View Post
    Guess who just had his grubby little paws all up in a 2014 Giant Dealer Catalog. Yep. Stopped by the bike shop on the way home from doing some trail building (I told you my paws were all grubby!) and they were just putting it together and putting the price stickers in it. So, a few notes:

    The Intrigue is a womens 27.5 Trance.

    There are a LOT of 27.5 models.
    There are a LOT of bikes featuring Shimano group sets.
    The Trance SX (there's an Advance SX too) is really freaking expensive. But it has trail brakes and a 160mm fork, but it looks like it's still the same frame. Only available in 27.5.
    Most Trance 27.5 models feature adjustable 120-140 travel forks. HT angles are 70 degrees. CS is 17.3.
    There is no Reign.
    The Reign X1 is actually more appealing to me from a price/warranty/performance stand point than any of the Trances.


    If you've got questions, I'll try to answer them from memory. Which means don't ask me for prices. I remember the SX bikes were $6K, the Reign X1 was $3.8K.
    is the reign x a new frame this year? 650b?

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    the trance sx looks like a reign to me, ie all mountain given the rear travel. just not called a reign. But who knows, with any luck there will be a reign as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by murrdogg11 View Post
    is the reign x a new frame this year? 650b?
    Last edited by lucifuge; 07-22-2013 at 12:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifuge View Post
    the trance sx looks like a reign to me, ie all mountain given the rear travel. just not called a reign. But who knows, with any luck there will be a reign as well.
    Sorry, no Reign this year, just a Reign X. The Reign X unfortunately is still 26" so, no. Probably still the same frame. If price were no object at all, I'd buy a Trance SX Advance and be done with it. But I'm not made of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fontarin View Post
    So was there a carbon Trance 29 (someone mentioned earlier)? I was at a shop and we were looking through the dealer website yesterday, but didn't see that one in there.
    I went by the LBS this morning and the owner just got back from Giant's demo days. The Trance 29er didn't get any changes except for color schemes. Lots of 27.5 bikes in different models. The Trance SX is the bike that everyone seemed to be raving about. The owner has an Anthem X Carbon 29er and he said the best bike that he rode in his opinion was the Trance X0 29er and the SX. There's some differences and he said each will have their niche but for cross country riding/all around bike those were his choices. I still prefer the 29er for the types of terrain we ride here but I'm really interested to see how these 27.5's work here. By the way, the Trance X1 is a grey color with orange graphics and it looks really good. Same components as last year. The X0 is the same paint scheme as the x2 from last year but has neon blue instead of yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawja7 View Post
    I went by the LBS this morning and the owner just got back from Giant's demo days. The Trance 29er didn't get any changes except for color schemes. Lots of 27.5 bikes in different models. The Trance SX is the bike that everyone seemed to be raving about. The owner has an Anthem X Carbon 29er and he said the best bike that he rode in his opinion was the Trance X0 29er and the SX. There's some differences and he said each will have their niche but for cross country riding/all around bike those were his choices. I still prefer the 29er for the types of terrain we ride here but I'm really interested to see how these 27.5's work here. By the way, the Trance X1 is a grey color with orange graphics and it looks really good. Same components as last year. The X0 is the same paint scheme as the x2 from last year but has neon blue instead of yellow.
    Is there a trance x 29er 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Is there a trance x 29er 2?
    Yes there is. It's the baby blue and black colors of the lower end Anthem from last year. I think the components are the same on it as well. The X1 is still the bes value if you can afford it as its only $800 or so more than the X2 and I've spent that already in upgrades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawja7 View Post
    Yes there is. It's the baby blue and black colors of the lower end Anthem from last year. I think the components are the same on it as well. The X1 is still the bes value if you can afford it as its only $800 or so more than the X2 and I've spent that already in upgrades.
    honestly, i didnt like the x1 color for 2013.. but if they have new colors for 2014.. i'll certainly consider it. like you though, i seem to "upgrade" and not keep the bike stock.

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    Anthem X29...no changes

    I saw the catalog today. No changes to the Anthem X29er frame except for colors.......too bad. I was hoping for at least shorter chainstays, but nothing has been changed, not even the seat tube/top tube junction that someone asked about. The AnthemX 27.5 looks pretty sweet though, just not sure I want to go 27.5, but with 17 inch chain stays, 24.2 TT, steepish 69 head angle, and 44.1 wheelbase in a large, that seems perfect for the xc racing and "agressive cross country" riding I typically do. I miss the tight turning, snappy feel of my 26 inch full susp. Any suggestions? I could also go with a Tallboy 2, as it seems to have great geo. on paper. Not sure about their VPP suspension.....ugh! Still looks like Giant will be the brand with the greatest variety with all the new models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jps View Post
    I saw the catalog today. No changes to the Anthem X29er frame except for colors.......too bad. I was hoping for at least shorter chainstays, but nothing has been changed, not even the seat tube/top tube junction that someone asked about. The AnthemX 27.5 looks pretty sweet though, just not sure I want to go 27.5, but with 17 inch chain stays, 24.2 TT, steepish 69 head angle, and 44.1 wheelbase in a large, that seems perfect for the xc racing and "agressive cross country" riding I typically do. I miss the tight turning, snappy feel of my 26 inch full susp. Any suggestions? I could also go with a Tallboy 2, as it seems to have great geo. on paper. Not sure about their VPP suspension.....ugh! Still looks like Giant will be the brand with the greatest variety with all the new models.
    I chose the Trance 29er last year for that aggressive CC riding also. This year the choice is gonna be harder because they have several different options of bikes and packages. The first thing I would look at is the main area you're gonna be riding and your style of riding. Since you said aggressive CC I would look at the Trance with more travel. Especially if you're a Clyde like me. The next thing would be wheel size, and there lies the problem. I can tell you about the ride quality of the 29er but not having thrown a leg over the 27.5 it's a mystery. The LBS owner likes it but he stated that there are other bikes he likes better and that he still prefers the 29ers. He said he liked the 27.5 but there is a specific rider for those. He did say it has some advantages and was quick with ease of pedaling. It's a toss up that I'm happy I don't have to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jps View Post
    I saw the catalog today. No changes to the Anthem X29er frame except for colors.......too bad. I was hoping for at least shorter chainstays, but nothing has been changed, not even the seat tube/top tube junction that someone asked about. The AnthemX 27.5 looks pretty sweet though, just not sure I want to go 27.5, but with 17 inch chain stays, 24.2 TT, steepish 69 head angle, and 44.1 wheelbase in a large, that seems perfect for the xc racing and "agressive cross country" riding I typically do. I miss the tight turning, snappy feel of my 26 inch full susp. Any suggestions? I could also go with a Tallboy 2, as it seems to have great geo. on paper. Not sure about their VPP suspension.....ugh! Still looks like Giant will be the brand with the greatest variety with all the new models.
    Changes to the frame from '13 to '14? Yeah, I would say so. Now, I haven't looked at geometry numbers but just from the look of it, I would say changes, yes. Top tube meeting the seat tube is reinforced, and the little chainstay guard is built in, it looks like. Again, I haven't looked at the numbers yet, so overall the geometry could be the same, but there are changes in both aluminum and carbon. Here......

    2013 Anthem X 29er 1:


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    See the changes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Changes to the frame from '13 to '14? Yeah, I would say so. Now, I haven't looked at geometry numbers but just from the look of it, I would say changes, yes. Top tube meeting the seat tube is reinforced, and the little chainstay guard is built in, it looks like. Again, I haven't looked at the numbers yet, so overall the geometry could be the same, but there are changes in both aluminum and carbon. Here......

    2013 Anthem X 29er 1:


    2014 Anthem, of some kind:


    See the changes?
    Look at the front dérailleur cable routing. I think this year just have internal cable routes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    Changes to the frame from '13 to '14? Yeah, I would say so. Now, I haven't looked at geometry numbers but just from the look of it, I would say changes, yes. Top tube meeting the seat tube is reinforced, and the little chainstay guard is built in, it looks like. Again, I haven't looked at the numbers yet, so overall the geometry could be the same, but there are changes in both aluminum and carbon. Here......

    2013 Anthem X 29er 1:


    2014 Anthem, of some kind:


    See the changes?
    The new one on the the bottom looks to be a carbon frame as it has no welds. It also looks to be the 27.5 model, which is new and would certainly look different than even this year's carbon 29er model. I'd still wait to see if the Anthem 29er changes at all, as these are two different models.

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    GT5050 beat me to it! The top photo is a AX29, and I am 99% sure the bottom photo is the carbon A27.5. The bottom photo got me excited last week, as I was sure they tweaked the 29er, but when I looked at the 2014 catalog today at the shop, the AX29er geo. is exactly the same as it was. The 27.5 Anthem's geo. is spot on though! Just not sure if I will miss the 29er roll, etc. Not that I need a new bike anyway, just got my AX 29 last Aug., and have loved MOST of its characteristics, and I have it built to 23.5 pounds race ready, and that is the alloy version. It is rather fun trying to decode the mystery.......

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    So what about this one? A 2013 Anthem X 29er Advanced....Carbon, right?



    I know, not the 27.5 and not a 2014, but the frame design and shape is the same as the aluminum one. Maybe I'm wrong, but would they really only make those needed changes to the 27.5 (frame reinforcement at the top tube/seat tube junction)? So if I am getting what you guys are saying, the aluminum 27.5 Anthems will have the same frame design as last years? Now I am confused. Someone straighten me out here......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    So what about this one? A 2013 Anthem X 29er Advanced....Carbon, right?



    I know, not the 27.5 and not a 2014, but the frame design and shape is the same as the aluminum one. Maybe I'm wrong, but would they really only make those needed changes to the 27.5 (frame reinforcement at the top tube/seat tube junction)? So if I am getting what you guys are saying, the aluminum 27.5 Anthems will have the same frame design as last years? Now I am confused. Someone straighten me out here......
    I hear what you're saying, and it might well be that they changed some things on the Anthem 29er even with reportedly no geometry changes. However, the 27.5 model has to be an all new frame anyway, so of course it's going to look different and I don't think any real parallels can be drawn back to the 2014 29er just by looking at the new 27.5.

    I for one though do think it's possible that some tweaks were made, perhaps a through axle rear end, but I don't think anything major as far as tubing would be changed until the bike gets a significant overhaul. Remember for the 27.5 it wouldn't be a shared frame - different tubing for Alu and different molds for Carbon, so having different shapes is a given.

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    I think this is the aluminum version, and it looks like it has a sturdier weld between the seat and top tube. And also possibly shorter chainstays, and definitely a larger bend on the seat tube at the swingarm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innota View Post

    I think this is the aluminum version, and it looks like it has a sturdier weld between the seat and top tube. And also possibly shorter chainstays, and definitely a larger bend on the seat tube at the swingarm.
    That actually looks like the carbon 27.5 bike to me. No welds. But I would bet that the 27.5 aluminum version will also have a bigger top tube junction, and I reckon the 29er will stay as it currently is.

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    Yes, you are probably right. I wonder how much travel the 27.5" version is getting. I'm guessing 120mm, but then again, that is approaching Trance territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innota View Post
    Yes, you are probably right. I wonder how much travel the 27.5" version is getting. I'm guessing 120mm, but then again, that is approaching Trance territory.
    I would think it will stay with the 100mm of travel, as it is a XC race machine. 100mm seems to be the sweet spot for a fast, light race XC bike.....at least one that is designed to keep the rubber on the ground, anyways. Hard to say though until we see actual (and correct) number from Giant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant Chachi View Post
    I would think it will stay with the 100mm of travel, as it is a XC race machine. 100mm seems to be the sweet spot for a fast, light race XC bike.....at least one that is designed to keep the rubber on the ground, anyways. Hard to say though until we see actual (and correct) number from Giant.
    The 27,5" Trance ups the travel so I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen on the Anthem either. Giant seems to be going "beyond" just creating an ordinary XC race bike and makes a fast trail bike instead.

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    Just got some killer deets on the 2014 Trance lineup. This is not all of the models but a few I got info for over the phone. Please excuse the lack of consistency in the descriptions as I was jotting this all down by hand:

    Trance advanced 275 O
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    Trance advanced 275 1
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    Trance SX 275
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    Trance SX
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    142 rear ends

    all come with new Internal cable routed dropper

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    So 120mm Trance X 29er, 140mm Trance Advanced 275, and 160mm Trance SX 275 then. I get the feeling that the Trance becomes more "all-mountain" and the Anthem more XC/trail.

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    It's not too early! Giant in 2014?

    Quote Originally Posted by Innota View Post
    I get the feeling that the Trance becomes more "all-mountain" and the Anthem more XC/trail.
    That is how it always has been.
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    I hope the beefen up the top tube seat post junction as well as mine just broke on my XTC. I think I will be getting the AnthemX, the stuff around my area a 140 and up is over kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    Trance advanced 275 1
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    So, that's like the price of an SLX-equipped Bronson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by probiscus View Post
    So, that's like the price of an SLX-equipped Bronson?
    Not quite. SLX equipped bronson comes in around 4200 but an XT build on a bronson comes in around 6k, which is quite a bit more than Giant wants for their equally equipped carbon Trance. This is thankfully another area where Giant beats the competition on price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innota View Post
    So 120mm Trance X 29er, 140mm Trance Advanced 275, and 160mm Trance SX 275 then. I get the feeling that the Trance becomes more "all-mountain" and the Anthem more XC/trail.
    Sorry if my post was confusing. The Trance line all has 140mm rear travel. The ONLY difference between the Trance and Trance SX (alloy or carbon version) is that the SX comes with a 34 Fork at 160mm that can be dropped to 140 when not descending.

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    Any 29er updates?

    I know there is a lot of buzz and excitement about the new 27.5 bikes; does anyone have any pictures, news, updates on the 2014 Giant XTC, Anthem and Trance 29ers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnAnySunday View Post
    I know there is a lot of buzz and excitement about the new 27.5 bikes; does anyone have any pictures, news, updates on the 2014 Giant XTC, Anthem and Trance 29ers?
    I agree, give us 29er info

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post

    Trance SX
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    $4050

    142 rear ends

    all come with new Internal cable routed dropper
    Makes the 2013 Reign 1 look like good value for around $3k

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    I didn't get the impression that many changes had been made to the 29ers. Only group sets and level specs changed. And like I said, I Don't think on the Anthem they changed for the better, but then I like SRAM components, and most of the Anthem levels have Shimano now.

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    I am pretty sure all of the Anthems use Fox front and rear. I didn't look too closely at the lower levels. The Advanced 0 has ceased to exist. No more Anthems with carbon wheels. They did look to have Shimano components. The only thing improved over 2013 is the colors. There are several 27.5 Anthems to include a carbon 0 with carbon wheels. 69.5 degree HA with 17 inch chain stays.
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    How are the 2014 Anthem 29er colors?

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    It's not too early! Giant in 2014?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    I am pretty sure all of the Anthems use Fox front and rear. I didn't look too closely at the lower levels. The Advanced 0 has ceased to exist. No more Anthems with carbon wheels. They did look to have Shimano components. The only thing improved over 2013 is the colors. There are several 27.5 Anthems to include a carbon 0 with carbon wheels. 69.5 degree HA with 17 inch chain stays.
    Interesting. Thanks for the info
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnAnySunday View Post
    I know there is a lot of buzz and excitement about the new 27.5 bikes; does anyone have any pictures, news, updates on the 2014 Giant XTC, Anthem and Trance 29ers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by durianrider View Post
    the link still only shows 650b models


    Is there a carbon trance 29er for those that have seen the catalog? If not Ill probably get a carbon fuel ex 29er

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    I got to say, I love the looks of the new Trance 27.5 but I visited the local shop today to look over the new catalog and did not see the "value" that everyone claims to be with the giant line. I mean, the Trance 27.5 1 with the xt build looks good at 5300 compared to slightly higher prices on other bikes but does not have kashima rear shocks and the front fork is a 32! I mean most bikes in 26 now include 34 forks but giant goes with a 32 on a longer travel 27.5.....really? Even the $7300 model has a revelation instead of the new pike! They are still great looking bikes but I am reconsidering the "value" a bit after looking a bit deeper.

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    Just saw this from a friend on Facebook, local So Cal shop has these puppies
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    Anyone know what the base model SLX Trance 275 Alloy will cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eruizela View Post
    Just saw this from a friend on Facebook, local So Cal shop has these puppies
    Judging from that picture the frame of the Anthem was revised...I don't remember that small dip on top tupe just before meeting with the seat tube.

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    Hey guys, if any of you want to ride the 2014's before the trde show OR outerbike, c'mon out to the Tetons!
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    This alone should be enough. pretty ridiculous.
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    Free group rides all over the valley, from the Pass to the Big Holes, everywhere.
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    This entire thing is a 100% volunteer fundraiser for TVTAP, in order to develop and maintain trails.

    There will be two new major trails at Targhee debuting for the race, including a flow trail and (i believe) a new DH.

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