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    Cool-blue Rhythm Giant trance 29er tweaks

    Been riding my Trance 29er 2 since for the last couple of months now and have discovered a few tweaks to the buike that have help me out massively in the way the bike responds and handles on the trail.

    First thing I did was ditch the saddle and replaced it with a charge spoon, for me this offers a lot more comfort. I'm 6'4"and about 240lbs and have always run my saddles as far back on the rails as possible. On the trance 29er for me this didn't work out so well because of the rear weight bias in balance. So saddle moved to a more neutral position worked better. Ditched the stock grips as well for something thicker and softer as my hands are hulk like.

    I changed my bars and stem also to a 60mm 8 degree rise stem and 780mm low rise bar. What I found whilst riding with this set up was that for my height and riding style the front was still going light on fast, loose wide corners or going up steep steep hills. To solve this I have flipped my stem so its running negative which pushed my weight ever so slightly onto my hands a little more which has made a huge difference to the way the bike handles going up hill and also at speed round fast loose corners.

    Also the recon setup needed looking at as the guidelines are well off when it come to pressures I ran 150 in front but have since lowered it right down to 130 and then 110 where it seems to be much improved in feel as I I feel more connected with the trail. The other little thing I have done which has made my bike almost silent is add a bionicon chain guide which decreases chain slap and noise greatly.

    My Trance 29er x2 rides and handles great for me with this set up, I have found the stock brakes excellent even with my heft. I used to run Hayes stroker trails (2010) with 203mm rotors front and 180mm these work just as well if not better.

    With a few tweaks this bike has become awesome.

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    Got a picture of it you can throw on here?

    Also, which grips did you put on it?

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    I went for superstar exel/xl grips in brown. Will post a few snaps in the Trance 29er pics thread when I get chance to take some out in the wild where it belongs.

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    I'm 2 weeks on my x1. Been fooling with mine too to get the right feel and get a little weight on the front. Thinking of going longer on the stem to stretch a bit more. Dropped fork pressure to 100 from 110 and slowed the rebound a bit. It was a little loose in the front on turns . Moved the seat forward a bit. This took care of the light front end. The seat is a piece of junk. That would be a nice upgrade with the brakes.

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    I'm about 5 weeks in on my Trance 29 X2. I am 6ft and 165ish riding a size Large frame. I swapped the seat first (as everyone agrees, stock one has been uncomfortable across the board) to a WTB Speed V. Also running a 70mm stem, and the seat slid just slightly forward. With sag in the rear shock set at 25% I'm very satisfied with suspension in the back-just set and forget, and it has been awesome! Still messing with pressures on the fork every 2-3 rides, trying to find my happy place. Not unhappy with the Recon fork, just not quite as good it could be for me yet. I also swapped out the grips for locking Oury's and love them!

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    Forgot to mention I'm on an XL frame, rear sag is about 30%. 30 psi tubed upfront and 40 psi rear also tubed nobby nics that came with the bike.

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    Are you guys finding the chain flys off on big drops / tables? The missus wont let me ride it anymore cause she says im too hard on it, I love it more than my 2013 reign 1, if I can get it to hold up to abuse a bit better I think im sold on one

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    no big drops here but lots of choppy terrain, no issues with chain for me, although i had one pop off when i rode a demo bike. i read somewhere the clutched derailleur was supposed to help with that. its working for me so far.
    my only gripes are the noisy avid brakes and the seat. the rest is just minor adjustments. its otherwise been great. I looked at the rotor yesterday and it said 170 up front? not 180? maybe i can swap over my avid 203/185 rotors from my camber and use XT brakes with those. good reports from the brake forum using shimano brake upgrade with the avid rotors.

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    Bobmouse - I agree with your setup. I have recently changed to some Renthal Fatbars 780 with 30mm rise. The better bend and sweep of the Renthals suit me to a tee. Im 128kgs and just on 6'. Grips Im running are some cheapy lockons until my ESI chunkys arrived from the States. I have since day one run with a flipped stem (70mm on a L frame). Although mine is TX29 0, the same can be said with the FOX fork/shock pressure adjustments too. Ive finally got it set with about 95psi in the forks and 240psi in the shock and this works nice for most of my local stuff here in OZ.
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    I've had a couple ride on a TX29 0 so far. I think the fork is operating so poor it is detracting from the whole experience. Everything else about the bike has been good.

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    i think i'm going to flip that factory stem too on my (L). i'm up way too high in the front. its making turns at speed difficult. i'm accustomed to laying over a bit anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hophead1 View Post
    i think i'm going to flip that factory stem too on my (L). i'm up way too high in the front. its making turns at speed difficult. i'm accustomed to laying over a bit anyway.
    Definitely flip the stem. Flipped mine about a month ago and like it better.

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    So....wasn't a good idea to put the bike on the stand for that. Now that its back together it feels pretty good.
    ....edit: found another spacer in the garage.lol. I still think this thing should be longer. I think its a 90. I like the 105 on my camber.
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    getting those bars lower and more weight over the front tire was a big help in handling and i'm even more comfortable. leaning into turns was much better. still threatening to swap the stem for the 100mm. maybe i just have long arms.lol. also just ordered slx ice tech brakes as they went on sale somewhere. debated on rotors for awhile. ended up going to a 180 ice tech for the front instead of a 203. i'll either reuse the the avid 160 or 170 for the rear. still not sure about the rotors. eh, it should still be a lot better.

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    Hophead, how do you like the brake change?

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    My bike is sitting at the shop because the brake line with the rear brake is way too short. Apparently nobody around here has anything that will work. Seems ridiculous. They had a jagwire hyflow but said it wouldn't work. I seem to be the only one having any issues with the brake swap.

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    Giant trance 29er tweaks

    When I swapped brakes on my TX29-1 I had to get a longer rear hose. My LBS was able to order one with no problems. I think it was 1700mm, and I ended up not trimming very much off after installing it (I have a M frame) - needed most of that length.

    Have your shop run it through the downtube and chainstay while you're at it. It's worth the effort, and if your already changing hoses you might as well go all the way.

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    is that a shimano hose or something else? yeah, its got to be a 1700. i measured the one i have, its about 4.5 feet. the avid I took off is 5.5 feet or about 1700mm.

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    Giant trance 29er tweaks

    Yep, it was a Shimano hose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobmouse View Post
    Forgot to mention I'm on an XL frame, rear sag is about 30%. 30 psi tubed upfront and 40 psi rear also tubed nobby nics that came with the bike.
    I'm over 6'4", and weigh 30lbs more than you and the most I have needed in any rear 29er tire is 32psi, and run most at 28 to 30psi. If I am using the same tires front and rear, I usually run 2psi less in front than in back.

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    2 recent changes, just cause I got deals on the parts...
    I am now running 2013 Shimano XT brakes (still on stock rotors) and a 750mm Truvativ Boobar handlebar. I ended up flipping the stem with my new handlebars to offset the slightly higher rise, and definitely like the extra width. I'd even consider going wider! As far as the brakes go, they are everything you have heard. Great modulation. Great stopping power.Also finally settled on running about 90-95 psi in the Recon fork--seems the most comfortable for me overall.

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    Just today switched out the x5 10 speed shifter for an x9 shifter just because I got a great deal and couldn't resist. Much more responsive/quicker shifting. Saving for a lighter fork now, either a reba or rev.

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    Slx brakes were nice and smooth from the start. After a couple of miles on the trail they were awesome. Instant stop. Love em. Hit some areas a little more aggressive knowing I could stop quick. tapping the brakes to get through the really tight stuff was also fun. Even though it was a hassle I'm glad I did it. I was going to change seats but stripped the crap bolt for the seat post. I also want to swap grips to something more comfortable.

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    Bobmouse- did you keep the derailleurs and just swap the shifters? Significant improvement?

    Hophead- glad to hear you like the Shimanos, I feel the same way!

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    I noticed some of you are running shorter stems on the large While I have the 90 flipped and thinking of going longer. As I've gotten lower and more stretched out, leaning the bike on fast turns has become easier. I've also read that handling improves the closer your hands are to being plumb with the front axle. Is that shorter position just where you are comfortable or does it have more to do with the trails you ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hophead1 View Post
    I noticed some of you are running shorter stems on the large While I have the 90 flipped and thinking of going longer. As I've gotten lower and more stretched out, leaning the bike on fast turns has become easier. I've also read that handling improves the closer your hands are to being plumb with the front axle. Is that shorter position just where you are comfortable or does it have more to do with the trails you ride?
    The longer, lower stem and hunched over riding style are more associated with racing XC style on a mountain bike. A more upright position utilizing shorter stem and wider bars is more optimal for downhill style riding, where the style of controls is better for steeper descending and things like that. With our bike being designed as essentially a middle-ground between those worlds, it takes some aspects of both. Depending on how you ride and the trails you are on, you can certainly adapt it more to one style than the other!

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    good to know. i'm sort of going for a plush trance with some anthem xc handling. i'm pretty close. when i get this stripped seat bolt out i'm going to put on a sdg bel-air seat. I know zero about seats but though i'd give it a try. need some direction on grips. since i've moved more of my weight over the bars, the thin rubber grips have bothered my hands/wrists. i'd like to find something with more comfort/dampening.

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    Hophead-- Try the Odi Ruffian grips. It's a tighter grain grip, I think you'll dig them. Not too thick/bulky, but better wearing and vibration damping than the stock ones. I like a thicker handle like Oury's or the Odi Rogue, but I have a feeling the Ruffian will complement your "plush, XC" style very well!

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    Does anyone know the stock wheel weight on the 2?, seems like a tough wheelset but I wouldn't mind a wider rim.

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    Nobody has anything on that wheel?

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    For those of you between sizes, what tweaks have you made to get the bike to fit you? Did you size up or down?

    I'm 5'8, 30" inseam, seems like I could ride either a Medium or Small. Got to demo a medium, which felt pretty good but I had to work a bit more than normal to get over the front wheel on steeper climbs. Parking lot ride on a small not set up right at all made me think it might be an alternative, a little easier to get over the front, maybe a better technical climber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panchosdad View Post
    For those of you between sizes, what tweaks have you made to get the bike to fit you? Did you size up or down?

    I'm 5'8, 30" inseam, seems like I could ride either a Medium or Small. Got to demo a medium, which felt pretty good but I had to work a bit more than normal to get over the front wheel on steeper climbs. Parking lot ride on a small not set up right at all made me think it might be an alternative, a little easier to get over the front, maybe a better technical climber.

    Thanks
    Pretty personal decision, if you ask me But if it were me I would go with the smaller size. I am 5'6 and usually demo Mediums and Smalls and while both would usually work, I tend to go with the small. Slightly (Very) less weight (not really the decision maker, but a nice added bonus), easier for me to maneuver, and I do most of my riding out of the saddle, so I appreciate the extra clearance.

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    any riders, particularly over 180# had the ctd shock re-valved or re-tuned. it does seem to blow through the travel pretty easy. i'm 216 with gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panchosdad View Post
    For those of you between sizes, what tweaks have you made to get the bike to fit you? Did you size up or down?

    I'm 5'8, 30" inseam, seems like I could ride either a Medium or Small. Got to demo a medium, which felt pretty good but I had to work a bit more than normal to get over the front wheel on steeper climbs. Parking lot ride on a small not set up right at all made me think it might be an alternative, a little easier to get over the front, maybe a better technical climber.

    Thanks

    I'm 5'7" and got the Small. Fits well. I felt pretty good on the Medium also, but figured I could adjust either one to where I wanted it. Like Dennis said, the Small is a pinch lighter also. I don't have enough saddle time to decide what changes I want, other than raising the seat, and hopefully changing the seat. It sux. Even the stock seat on my Hardrock feels better....although it's probably because I've been riding that one for a while now.
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    Just added seat and 203/180 ice tec rotors. Hopefully that's it for a while.cant seem to get photos on here from iPhone.

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    I guess you can't drag and drop on iphone. computer worked.

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    Wheel info including weights in thus thread The Giant P-XC/S-XC Wheelset Thread

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    Anyone having to tweak the dropper due to problems on the x1 29er?
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    Just upgraded the wheelset ever so slightly to the p-xc 2, found a great deal on ebay for a brand new unused set off a x1 that they were swapping out from new. S-xc 2 are in the shop being trued and I also have some lighter floating rotors on the way.

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    Giant trance 29er tweaks

    Alright, so my TX29-1 has been FABULOUS, and I've been riding it in Dr Jeckyl or Mr Hyde modes.

    For my local MI trails I have it set up in a lighter more XC type mode. Suspension tends to stay in T or C. Upgrades include tubeless front & rear tires, a Racing Ralph in the rear, Zee brakes (both routed internally), Icetech rotors, X9 shifters, Problem Solvers Mismatch adapters, Thomson setback seat post, helicopter tape on the downtube and chain stay, rubber cable bumpers at the headtube, Ergon grips, Planet Bike wireless computer, SPD 540 pedals, and probably a few other things I'm forgetting.
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    For techy downhills stuff I run the dropper and keep the NN on the rear. Here she is last week ready to descend Greenslick trail at Bent Creek in NC where I got plenty of use out of the D mode of the suspension:
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    Only other thing I might do is a new saddle since the stock one is starting to show some wear, but that will take some fiddling and the stock saddle is ok for now. And I've been trying to find a reason to upgrade to Stans wheels, but the stock set has been flawless so far and leaves me no reason to change.

    I LOVE this bike!
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    To everyone who has switched to the X9 shifters:
    Worth the price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XyesterdayX View Post
    To everyone who has switched to the X9 shifters:
    Worth the price?
    I would say deffo yes, I have replaced the right hand 10sp from x5 to x9 and its made a good change so well worth it.. Still yet to swap out the left 2sp shifter.

    On a side note, I should hopefully be fitting some x9 cranks this week. Lowered my shock and fork pressure even more as I have lost a few lbs myself and it running so sweet at the moment.

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    Giant trance 29er tweaks

    I got tired of the noisy Avid Elixir 3 brakes and just upgraded to Shimano XT. They are quiet and so much more powerful. Giant trance 29er tweaks-imageuploadedbytapatalk-21373977053.110608.jpgGiant trance 29er tweaks-imageuploadedbytapatalk-21373977068.985417.jpgGiant trance 29er tweaks-imageuploadedbytapatalk-21373977086.218381.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wfomoto View Post
    I got tired of the noisy Avid Elixir 3 brakes and just upgraded to Shimano XT. They are quiet and so much more powerful. Click image for larger version. 

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    Did you replace the rotors or keep the stock ones? Did you need to buy the xt brake adapters to make them fit?

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    Ok its been a while and I have made a few changes with bar/stem lengths and settled with the stock stem at 100mm and a 720 riser bar with the stem inverted. Going from 780mm bars and a 60mm stem then a 75mm stem then to 100mm stem and 710 bars to finally settle and be happy with 720mm bars (780 cut down). Ihave long arms and a long body so the shorter stem was a real pain for me also I like my elbows out a little with a narrow ish bar I can do this and still get off the back of the bike when needed.

    Also experimented with 1x10 going 32t upfront and hated it, lovely and quiet but my legs got destroyed on the techy up hill climbs and I stalled and pushed up. Switched back to 2 x 10 and I'm happy. Nano thru pedals from superstar fitted, rear end is going tubeless when my kit arrives in the post. New fork is next on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XyesterdayX View Post
    I'm about 5 weeks in on my Trance 29 X2. I am 6ft and 165ish riding a size Large frame. I swapped the seat first (as everyone agrees, stock one has been uncomfortable across the board) to a WTB Speed V. Also running a 70mm stem, and the seat slid just slightly forward. With sag in the rear shock set at 25% I'm very satisfied with suspension in the back-just set and forget, and it has been awesome! Still messing with pressures on the fork every 2-3 rides, trying to find my happy place. Not unhappy with the Recon fork, just not quite as good it could be for me yet. I also swapped out the grips for locking Oury's and love them!
    what stem did you get? I have only found syntace and ritchey stems that are compatible with overdrive 2.

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    I purchased a Giant Trance x29er 2 this August and have logged probably about 150 miles on it now. I also found the seat to be horrible and switched it out with a WTB Speed, which has been a great improvement. Next I changed the grips for something with ergonomic padding for the wrist, I went with Specialized BG Contour. They have worked out well also.
    The ergonomics of this bike have been a challenge to figure out. I am 6'1'' and about 2 hundo, hopefully that figure will decline as I bike more :-). Firstly the seat tube angle and seat post. I find that the seat tube angle puts the weight far back on the bike. I have the seat as far forward as I can and still feel like I want to shift my position a little further. Additionally, the stock seat post is not long enough for my longer legs. To remedy the short seat post, and rearward positioning of the seat tube angle I am thinking of getting a 400mm inline seat post, possibly the truvativ AKA.
    Secondly, I would like to make the handling a little more responsive and I find that my elbows are locked out too often. So I am thinking of switching from a 90mm to a 80mm stem, and trying to retain the same 6-8 degree angle. I may end up switching handlebars as well after the stem if I feel that I need something wider after shortening my stem.
    I have been LOVING this bike! I just feel like the ergonomics need some tweaks. Let me know what you think of these upgrades. If my logic for upgrading is correct, or if you have made similar adjustments and can share your experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egbert View Post
    what stem did you get? I have only found syntace and ritchey stems that are compatible with overdrive 2.

    TX29 2 was only ever supplied with Overdrive, NOT OD2 like the x1 and x0 versions. All standard 1&1/8" stems fit on the TX29 x2 fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharcyde View Post
    TX29 2 was only ever supplied with Overdrive, NOT OD2 like the x1 and x0 versions. All standard 1&1/8" stems fit on the TX29 x2 fine.
    Are you sure about that? I am getting mixed information, a brochure I have says overdrive 2 and than this link says overdrive Trance X 29er 2 (2013) - Bikes | Giant Bicycles | United States

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    100% sure

    Overdrive is a standard tapered head tube

    Overdrive 2 is tapered but top is 1.25" making it GOD AWFUL HARD (thanks GIANT) to ghet new stems.

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    Go have a look at the other version bikes SPECS on that same catalogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharcyde View Post
    100% sure

    Overdrive is a standard tapered head tube

    Overdrive 2 is tapered but top is 1.25" making it GOD AWFUL HARD (thanks GIANT) to ghet new stems.
    Thanks Pharcyde! for once I am happy to not have the latest tech, there aren't many stems out there at 1.25''

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    TBH, it is the one singular thing that shits me the most about these bikes. It is a VERY expensive exercise just to change stems.

    To my LBS's credit, when I bought mine they had every single size GIANT OD2 stem on the shelf and nothing was a problem to swap out.

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    What stem would be good to move the bars closer to me but still be at the same height on a 13 trance x2 29er? I'm short so the stretch is just a little to far.

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    Anything on this page Stems | Chain Reaction Cycles should do the trick. 40mm Short stems usually dumb down the steering response but with the slack HA on the TX29 you can go a fair bit shorter than you normally would, without sacrificing steering feedback. Just make sure what ever stem you buy has the same 8deg up angle as the OE Giant Connect stem.

    EDIT : just discovered that that page has no 8deg up stems. Maybe search 50mm or 60mm.

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    Is possible to install Fox talas 34 140mm fork in Trance x 29er without voiding the warranty?

    Also what is the size of the rear fork. I want to upgrade it to fox float X.

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    The Trance X29er doesn't have a rear fork so your out of luck.

    If you put a bigger fork on the bike than the one that came stock, you will void your warranty. But...only if Giant finds out.
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    "Is possible to install Fox talas 34 140mm fork in Trance x 29er without voiding the warranty? "

    I have a float 34 on my Trance X 29er and I love it. I thought it would make the front end to high for climbs. The front tire stays on the ground as long as I distribute my weight correctly on the saddle. I don't know why giant put Fox 32 120mm travel forks on these frames, The 34 140mm fork is perfect for my setup!

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    What I mean is the rear shock. What is that size of the rear shox?

    120mm fork is not enough for the type of riding I do with my trance x 29er.

    @yahama, did you change the top headset to 1 1/8"?

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    Anyone get any suspension work done to both ends? IMO. The biggest downfall to this bike is the suspension. Looking for anyone who changed some things up. 215 lbs. 2013 X0

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    I installed a standard internall headset, I don't recall the dimensions of it, but it makes it a standard 1/1/8 top assembly.

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    has anyone installed clutch with 2x chain guide in Trance X 29er?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMH22 View Post
    Anyone get any suspension work done to both ends? IMO. The biggest downfall to this bike is the suspension. Looking for anyone who changed some things up. 215 lbs. 2013 X0

    I've serviced my fork, two weeks ago after using my Trance for 4 months in the rain. I changed the oil, dust wiper and nuts . I have not serviced the rear shock yet.

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    The rear shock on my X1 went out about a month ago and according to some in another forum, the shock has to be sent to Fox or Push for a damper service. I'm thinking of sending this to Push to get the upgraded service (re-valving). I had the Fox Evo fork serviced by my lbs about 4 months ago because it was riding really harshly and the foam ring was leaving deposits on the stanchions. They said it was pretty dry in there. Now it's great. It's really a great bike though.
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    I continue to have trouble with the chain dropping from the big ring to the little one. Happens when going kinda fast on bumpy terrain. A couple times it has jumped all the way to the bottom bracket shell.

    Very annoying.

    I have no solution.

    Bike is TranceX 29 1. 2x10 SRAM with type 2 rear der.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elder_mtber View Post
    I continue to have trouble with the chain dropping from the big ring to the little one. Happens when going kinda fast on bumpy terrain. A couple times it has jumped all the way to the bottom bracket shell.

    Very annoying.

    I have no solution.

    Bike is TranceX 29 1. 2x10 SRAM with type 2 rear der.

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    You have to adjust the high and low in your front der. I used to have this problem with xtr shadow plus.

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    The only way I could fix mine was to tighten the SRAM clutch. Just take off the cover and I tightened mine to max and it never drops the chain now. I'm still going to upgrade to shimano and ditch the SRAM and front derailer

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    I may try to adjust that too. Mine hasn't really been a problem in FL but dropped a couple times while going downhill in Asheville. It was annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hophead1 View Post
    I may try to adjust that too. Mine hasn't really been a problem in FL but dropped a couple times while going downhill in Asheville. It was annoying.
    maybe try 1x10 setup.

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    has anyone internally routed the gear cable for rear der, can you please post the pic here.

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    Just got a new 2014 Trance 29er 1. Stock, it feels pretty comfortable with the 80mm/8' stem in upright position on top of 2X10mm + 2X5mm spacers. This high bar position would be lame on my XTC hardtail 29er but with the slacker HTA on the Trance it feels alright. What are you guys running the stems at? Keeping them high or flipping them down and putting the spacers on top? I don't want to go to the trouble of changing all this out if it screws up my position and or steering. Did 3.5hrs on the maiden voyage yesterday, it would have been painful on the XTC with the lower position. So, comfort wise I think I'm ok.

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    60mm flipped and bottom of the stack. That's on a medium and im 5'10. Im pretty aggressive on the trance though so might not work for some

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    50mm stem, positioned high. Very. Comfortable especially in climbing steep hill.

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    Where are you guys finding "reasonably" priced 1.25" stems? My LBS said he can't find any...
    Are the $90 ebay finds my only option?

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    I bought mine from my lbs.

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    I bought mine from the above ebay seller. He is in Taiwan, where Giants are made, not red China. Delivery was super fast - I could not believe it.

    Best wishes,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding View Post
    I've had a couple ride on a TX29 0 so far. I think the fork is operating so poor it is detracting from the whole experience. Everything else about the bike has been good.
    My trance xo fork was defective from the factory.
    The seals had no oil in them to keep the stantions lubricated.
    Get your shop to open it up - should be covered under warranty.

    I got them to put in low friction seals for an extra $30.

    Night and day difference - before the fork was so sticky it squeeked when working through its travel.

    Now -butta.


    Overall - pretty disappointed with fox - not worth the price premium IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egbert View Post
    I purchased a Giant Trance x29er 2 this August and have logged probably about 150 miles on it now. I also found the seat to be horrible and switched it out with a WTB Speed, which has been a great improvement. Next I changed the grips for something with ergonomic padding for the wrist, I went with Specialized BG Contour. They have worked out well also.
    The ergonomics of this bike have been a challenge to figure out. I am 6'1'' and about 2 hundo, hopefully that figure will decline as I bike more :-). Firstly the seat tube angle and seat post. I find that the seat tube angle puts the weight far back on the bike. I have the seat as far forward as I can and still feel like I want to shift my position a little further. Additionally, the stock seat post is not long enough for my longer legs. To remedy the short seat post, and rearward positioning of the seat tube angle I am thinking of getting a 400mm inline seat post, possibly the truvativ AKA.
    Secondly, I would like to make the handling a little more responsive and I find that my elbows are locked out too often. So I am thinking of switching from a 90mm to a 80mm stem, and trying to retain the same 6-8 degree angle. I may end up switching handlebars as well after the stem if I feel that I need something wider after shortening my stem.
    I have been LOVING this bike! I just feel like the ergonomics need some tweaks. Let me know what you think of these upgrades. If my logic for upgrading is correct, or if you have made similar adjustments and can share your experiences.
    I swapped the stock dropper post to my wifes bike and put on a reverb.
    It is an inline post so helps get the weight distribution more over the front of the bike for climbing.

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    My LBS traded stems for me, no charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal-Cracker View Post
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    Look here. I bought one from this source for $37 including super fast shipping from Taiwan. Totally satisfied.

    Best wishes,
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    Picked up a used X1 a couple months ago. Really like the bike, changed the following:
    Wtb Devo saddle (I already owned it), it's so compact I'm considering ditching the dropper and saving some weight.
    Stan's Arch EX with Maxxis Ardent 2.25 stolen from from my HT.
    XT brakes and Icetech rotors. Didn't route through frame cause I'm lazy.
    ODI rogue grips. My paws are medium/large but I seem to get less fatigue with these.
    X9 shifters. Probably worth it if you shop them.
    X0 crank, which I just swapped the spider and rings to 22/36 with bash. Haven't ridden that combo yet except around the basement. The 26/39 was not practical around here.

    Thinking of changing the bars but overall the fit is ok. Medium frame, I'm 5'10" with long limbs and a short torso. My old 2011 Trance X 26er never felt 100% comfortable no matter what I did. Maybe that .4 inch difference in TT is enough. Either way the bike has stepped up my tech riding game significantly. I almost wish I'd bought new as I think it's a keeper and I'd love to have the frame warranty. Anyway.

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    SLX brakes and a Manitou tower pro now fitted. Haven;t ridden it since fitting the new fork the weather here in the UK is foul.

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    Anyone know which is the best pike to run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotaholic View Post
    Anyone know which is the best pike to run?
    I'd run from the Northern Pike myself.
    Northern pike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Thanks for sharing.

    Surprisingly i also ditched the stock saddle and changed to the exact same one as the OP's. The Charge saddle is supportive and the shape does help relieving the stress etc...

    I also rotated the handlebar inward to me from 0 to 2, just to bring it closer to me as i found my arms were a little bit straight when going downhill.

    I could be looking at changing a rise stem but not sure if it'll give me better feelings.

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    Loving the SLX brakes, though I have elixirs on another bike and you can make them perform better by bleeding them. Also cuts out turkey warble. Ditched dropper post for a lighter Easton solid post. I didn't use the dropper. Broke the chain. Upgraded to a SRAM 1091 it's lighter, smoother, quieter, shifting is better and it didn't drop on a particularly hilly trail. Rear shock is leaky, may send to push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hophead1 View Post
    Loving the SLX brakes, though I have elixirs on another bike and you can make them perform better by bleeding them. Also cuts out turkey warble. Ditched dropper post for a lighter Easton solid post. I didn't use the dropper. Broke the chain. Upgraded to a SRAM 1091 it's lighter, smoother, quieter, shifting is better and it didn't drop on a particularly hilly trail. Rear shock is leaky, may send to push.
    The SRAM 1091 chain is durable. I used to use kmc chain, however I keep on breaking it while riding on the trail.


    I want to upgrade the fork to float/talas 140mm. If I do this The warranty won't be voided? Also has anyone installed float x for rear show?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharcyde View Post
    Bobmouse - I agree with your setup. I have recently changed to some Renthal Fatbars 780 with 30mm rise. The better bend and sweep of the Renthals suit me to a tee. Im 128kgs and just on 6'. Grips Im running are some cheapy lockons until my ESI chunkys arrived from the States. I have since day one run with a flipped stem (70mm on a L frame). Although mine is TX29 0, the same can be said with the FOX fork/shock pressure adjustments too. Ive finally got it set with about 95psi in the forks and 240psi in the shock and this works nice for most of my local stuff here in OZ.

    How do you find your 70mm stem with 780mm handle while maneuvering in tight corners/trail?

    I'm thinking to swap my 50mm stem to a 70mm stem with a 740mm, my height is 5 10'

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    Hi,

    My thoughts / experience with my Medium Trance 29 X2. In the year I've had it I've raced a few XC events including the 220km, four day Cape to Cape race in South Western Australia.

    I really struggled to feel comfortable on Trance 29 X2. I'm 185cm and 86kg loaded and could never get the rear shock to stop bouncing. My LBS wasn't much help with the shock so I sent off to get tuned by NS Dynamics - Awesome! I asked about the front shock but they said I was wasting my money to get it tuned so I left it.

    Next was to lighten the bike with Stans Arch EX / Hope Hoops Pro 2 combo which took just under 1kg off the bike. I managed to find a shorter 80mm step and cut the bars to 680mm. I then ended up getting a professional bike fit and had to reverse the seat post to get close enough to the bars. Now it handles like a dream.

    I'm considering going XX1 or XO1 but I'm not sure if I'll get any benefit with the $$$ I need to spend. I don't use the dropper post that often so that may come off as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingo24 View Post
    Hi,

    My thoughts / experience with my Medium Trance 29 X2. In the year I've had it I've raced a few XC events including the 220km, four day Cape to Cape race in South Western Australia.

    I really struggled to feel comfortable on Trance 29 X2. I'm 185cm and 86kg loaded and could never get the rear shock to stop bouncing. My LBS wasn't much help with the shock so I sent off to get tuned by NS Dynamics - Awesome! I asked about the front shock but they said I was wasting my money to get it tuned so I left it.

    Next was to lighten the bike with Stans Arch EX / Hope Hoops Pro 2 combo which took just under 1kg off the bike. I managed to find a shorter 80mm step and cut the bars to 680mm. I then ended up getting a professional bike fit and had to reverse the seat post to get close enough to the bars. Now it handles like a dream.

    I'm considering going XX1 or XO1 but I'm not sure if I'll get any benefit with the $$$ I need to spend. I don't use the dropper post that often so that may come off as well.
    1x10/1x11 is not a good idea with 29er, you'll struggle with long steep climb. I raced at the cape to cape some section on those trails are really steep i was using a 1x10 setup. After that race I converted back to 2x10.

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    Giant trance 29er tweaks

    Quote Originally Posted by rave81 View Post
    1x10/1x11 is not a good idea with 29er, you'll struggle with long steep climb. I raced at the cape to cape some section on those trails are really steep i was using a 1x10 setup. After that race I converted back to 2x10.
    I disagree with this. I have 1x10 on my 29er and love it. I have enough top end, and almost enough low for big techy climbs. A switch to 1x11 will give me more low and top. It's a great solution. It may be tough with a 1x10, but the true 1x11 is awesome.

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    Giant trance 29er tweaks

    I recently switched to X01 and really like it. Originally had 2x with 26 inner ring. Started with a 32 X01 front and have switched to a 30. The 30 matches the climbing gear I had but the gaps between gears are larger than with the 32. Seems like if I'm riding a lot I'll prefer the 32 and the 30 if conditioning dips. The X01 setup is really quiet and the shifts are fast.

    I'm running stock suspension, X01 trail brakes (routed through the frame) and SRAM Roam 60 wheel set. Carbon bars and a 70 mm stem. With pedals, 26lbs. This is a really fun bike in the So Cal Santa Monica mountains and Mammoth Mtn bike park.

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    Wait for shimano 1x11 xt/xtr with di rear der. It will be release this year.32t I struggle with steep long technical terrain. I would use 30T. However this is not enough when descending fast.What other carbon wheels that can hold at least 2.4 do you recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobmouse View Post
    SLX brakes and a Manitou tower pro now fitted. Haven;t ridden it since fitting the new fork the weather here in the UK is foul.
    Any rides on the Manitou fork yet? I'm considering this for my X2, and would love to hear some first hand experience!

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    Where do you all have the remote for your dropper post? Mine is on the inside (away from the grip) of the brake and shifter levers. I find it hard to reach, but wondering about interference if I move it between the grip and the brake lever.

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    Mine is still on the outside of the brakes but moved closer so I can slide my thumb across while still keeping most of my hand touching the grip. I haven't tried swapping between the grip and brakes.. given that the cable can be touchy I'd be nervous about it. If you try it and it works post back!

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    Mine is between my grip and brakes and I MUCH prefer that location.

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    Yeah pretty trivial tweak. I had to loosen the brake and gear levers to get to the bolt for the dropper switch. Then removed the bolt, moved the switch to the outside and done.

    I moved it in far enough that it doesn't interfere with the shifter levers. I think this will help me out a lot. I always struggle with finding the switch so I end up not using it when it would be very useful. Or I get it down and can't get my seat back up when I need to.

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    Very nice fork for the money I go it half price from crc. I am a big guy at 240lbs and have the psi in the form just over max with the firm spring it came with and it rides just great. Very plush, good weight for the price. I have noticed the bike it more balanced and is more responsive.

    On a side note I have changed my bars and stem over yet again and gone tubeless...yet again this time from and rear with the purgatory grids. This combines with 30t race face narrow wide ditching the chain device should lighten things up a bit.

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    This was a huge improvement. I was able to use the dropper without reaching for it, so I used it over and over.

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