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    Giant Revel 1 vs Revel 0

    Hey guys,

    Is there any major difference why I would want to spend the extra money for the Revel 0? I am a beginner and would really know what to look for.

    Here are the specs from Giant:

    Revel 1: Revel 1 (Charcoal/Red) (2012) - Bikes | Giant Bicycles | United States

    Revel 0: Revel 0 (2012) - Bikes | Giant Bicycles | United States

    Thank you.

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    The difference is in the quality of the drive train components, brakes and fork, the rest is about the same.

    Pick the one you can afford and upgrade as components wear off or break.

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    so there isn't a significant enough difference to buy the Revel 0 pretty much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Jiggles View Post
    so there isn't a significant enough difference to buy the Revel 0 pretty much?
    For me that flat black paint job would be enough to convince me!

    Well, that and the fact that the 0 comes with a RockShox and the 1 comes with SR Suntour fork. SR Suntour forks SUCK. Not to mention that the RockShox has a lockout feature and the SR Suntour one does not. Locking out the fork on climbs well help you out, I know I use it on mine all the time.

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    I got a Rincon (immediate previous incarnation of the Revel) in 2010 and almost immediately HAD to replace the crank set and rear derailleur due to failure and upgraded the fork and tires for performance reasons - the OE Suntour was a pogo stick. All in all I have about $1500 invested in what was originally a $500 entry level bike. Is it a sweet ride - YES, I love it - should I have bought a higher level of components right off the bat - YES.

    In the long run, if you see yourself being in the sport for awhile (10 years +) it will be worth the investment. Bottom line (and the chorus can join in on this) You WILL have more fun on a more reliable higher component bike and better components really DO make a difference.
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    ok so then Revel 0 it is :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Jiggles View Post
    ok so then Revel 0 it is :-)
    I would say based on those two bikes that is a good decision, and you will not regret it! Enjoy your new ride! Nothing better than "new bike day".

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    If is around 800 why not consider the Talon 2 and join the 29er crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    If is around 800 why not consider the Talon 2 and join the 29er crowd.
    Great point! I have a Talon 1 (2011) and LOVE it. For just a little more you will get a LOT more bike! We aren't making this easy for you are we? The Talon 29er 2 has about the same components as the bikes you are looking and is about the same price ($650)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    Great point! I have a Talon 1 (2011) and LOVE it. For just a little more you will get a LOT more bike! We aren't making this easy for you are we? The Talon 29er 2 has about the same components as the bikes you are looking and is about the same price ($650)
    NO YOU ARE NOT MAKING THIS EASY! LOL

    $650 is enough. I'm not doing anything crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Jiggles View Post
    NO YOU ARE NOT MAKING THIS EASY! LOL

    $650 is enough. I'm not doing anything crazy.
    Just check it out before committing, MSRP for the Talon 2 is 800 but can be had for less. Try the 29er cool aid and your experience will be even nicer.

    After 2 Giant 26 full sussers (still have them) the Talon (in my case '11 Talon 1) sees most of the action.

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    When I went in to buy my bike I was actually intending on getting the Revel, and they guys at the bike store talked me into the Talon 1. I am glad they did. I really like the feel of the 29 inch wheels. Just something to consider. You really are not looking at that big of a price difference. Good luck making the decision! Let us know what you decide on, and post some pics!!!

    Some pics of the Talon (including mine) over here on this thread: Talon owners .....

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    What are the 29" wheels good for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Jiggles View Post
    What are the 29" wheels good for?
    Here is a good article you may want to check out: 26er Versus 29er: The Shootout You've Been Asking For | News | mountain-bike-action

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    Thank you for that Dennis, but I think I am pretty set on my 26" bike. I will let you know when it happens. Birthday comes up in late April, may take some cash and go with that Revel 0!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    I did do some research however and found this bike that is in my price and a 29er. What do you guys think about Treks?

    Trek Bicycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Jiggles View Post
    I did do some research however and found this bike that is in my price and a 29er. What do you guys think about Treks?

    Trek Bicycle
    Just my 2 cents... I would go with the 29er (Trek or Giant). The components on the Trek are just about bottom of the line, but they are easy to upgrade as needed. It is a little harder to upgrade to a 29er (Well, just about impossible). If you watch chainlove and blueskycycling you can get some great deals on components to upgrade down the road.

    Once you ride one you will understand.

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    Joey, the Talon component spec is superior to the Trek. I was about to get one just before I found a great deal on the Talon.

    The only thing that might be a problem with the Trek is the G2 geometry which requires a G2 specific fork for it to perform as designed and to my knowledge the only manufacturer of G2 aftermarket forks is Fox and that means top dollar.

    Stick with 29ers and the one that you can afford, both brands offer good warranty.

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    yeah I heard Trek sort of sucks. I will look into the Talon a little more. Thank you.

    Let me pick your brain about these 2:

    Talon 1: Talon 29er 1 (2012) - Bikes | Giant Bicycles | United States

    Talon 2: Talon 29er 2 (2012) - Bikes | Giant Bicycles | United States

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Jiggles View Post
    yeah I heard Trek sort of sucks. I will look into the Talon a little more. Thank you.

    Let me pick your brain about these 2:

    Talon 1: Talon 29er 1 (2012) - Bikes | Giant Bicycles | United States

    Talon 2: Talon 29er 2 (2012) - Bikes | Giant Bicycles | United States
    Easy pick, T1; how about the T0?

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    Yeah but Devil cost is a factor. Is it worth it? Sort of the same question as in my original post for this thread.

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    For $140 more you get better fork, 9 speeds and a better drive train, if you can, get it but if not the 1 is the same but with lesser components and 8 speeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    For $140 more you get better fork, 9 speeds and a better drive train, if you can, get it but if not the 1 is the same but with lesser components and 8 speeds.
    Agreed. For what is worth, I was in your EXACT position 6 months ago. I started with about a $600 budget, and ended up getting talked into the Talon 1 (2011 model - the 2011 Talon 1 is comparable to the 2012 talon 0). Because the 2012's were coming in, I got it for $899 (retail was $1000). After pounding on this thing 2-3 times a week for the past 6 months, I can not be happier with my decision. It was a little difficult to come up with the extra cash, but I have NEVER regretted it. In fact if I had got anything less than what I did I surely would have regretted not spending more.

    The Talon is a GREAT bike. You are doing the right thing and doing a lot of research before making your decision. I also recommend test riding all these bikes and see what feels best for you also.

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    Believe that most of us people with a very limited bike budget need to shop around, test ride and look for what gives us bang for the buck regardless of brands, models or color schemes.

    Was on your same position, had a fixed amount and almost bought a Trek, decided to look a bit more and ended up with my third Giant, the reason wasn't colors or brand loyalty (love all my Giants btw) was that the Talon gave me the most for my money and was even able to get it below MSRP.

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    Guys, I really appreciate your stories. It is def. helping me.

    I decided to call a local bike store that is supposed to be really legit. They are saying come in and check out their KHS Bikes. What are your thoughts on this one? I know it's not a 29er.

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    Honestly, what you were looking before is better.

    Keep looking and test riding, eventually you'll find "the one". Check out Scott or even Motobecane from bikesdirect.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Honestly, what you were looking before is better.

    Keep looking and test riding, eventually you'll find "the one". Check out Scott or even Motobecane from bikesdirect.com.
    Thank you.

    But I wish I knew enough to what I was talking about in terms of parts so I could buy one of these bikes haha. I think I may just end on that Revel 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Jiggles View Post
    Thank you.

    But I wish I knew enough to what I was talking about in terms of parts so I could buy one of these bikes haha. I think I may just end on that Revel 0.
    IMHO - Once you get out riding and run into and talk to others you will regret not getting a 29er. I know I would have regretted it. Components (Shifters, Derailuers, Seat, Seatpost, Stem, Bars, ETC) are cheap and easy to upgrade / replace as they go bad. Frames, Wheel Sets, Forks, etc, well, not so much.

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    Agree with you Dennis but the OP will eventually decide on what he likes the best in his price range 26er or 29er.

    Come on Joey, drink the cool aid...

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    I bought a 2012 Revel 1 (Charcoal/Red) this week. Itís a nice bike. I'm sure I would love the 29's but for $500, I'm really happy.

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    get the 0 the rever 1s are on recal cuz the forks break and you go OTB

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    I did not know that JDMAW.. yeah I am just going to go with the Revel 0. I will let you guys know how it goes!

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    I just got the 0 on last friday and its a great bike, very solid and not one thing bad to say about it. rides really nice also. Meaty tires.

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    Joey did you pick up the Revel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranger mac View Post
    joey did you pick up the revel?
    ^^^^^^
    +1 ????

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    I think the KHS is alright but the value that you get with the Talon 29ers are just awesome. If you can find a place that sells the Talon I would take both the KHS and the Talon out and see which one feels better to you.

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    I posted I got a Revel 1, 4 weeks ago and jdmawdjunkie called out the recall before the government issued it (issued on 4/12/12). Good one jdmawdjunkie!!!!!!!

    Anyway, I rode the Revel1 for a couple weeks but just wasn't happy with it. This weekend I turned in the Revel 1 for a Talon 29er 2. What a difference an extra $150 got me. So glad I made the change. Ready to hit Copper Harbor (Michigan) this summer.

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    Giant Revel 0 or Jamis Trail X3

    Joey Jiggles, sorry to jump in to your thread, but i have a question from the pro's, How does the 2012 Revel 0 compare to the 2011 Jamis Trail X3.

    I am new to the scene and this is my first time buying a new bike. I want to do some trail riding, but will not do crazy jumps or anything. However, I would like a hardy mountain bike.

    The Revel 0 and the X3 have the lockout feature on the fork. The X3 is currently on sale for CAN$360, while the Revel 0 is CAN$700.

    I really wanted a bike that would not weigh a lot. I think both these bikes weigh about the same. Is the Revel 0 that much better a bike that I should pay double for it...please HELP!!

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    Revel 0

    I picked up the Revel 0 today for ground assault, wanted something small, agile and very responsive. I'm 5' 10" and purchased the small. This won't be a bike used to sit on so the seat will stay dropped. Personally I think this bike is a great deal for the money, plus all black sealed the deal. Decent parts. Weight is a non-issue, its not a tank. If I wanted something lighter I would spend twice the money.

    Mods will be, trim back handlebars 1" on both sides, swap pedals, cut back the seat post and thats it. I like it the way it is. The RS ock-out is nice to have and easy to switch.

    Wheelbase
    S/16 is 41.6
    M/18 is 42.4

    Standover Height
    S/16 is 28.8
    M/18 is 30.2

    Head Angle, Seat Angle and Chainstay are identical between the S and M:
    69 / 72.5 / 16.7

    My geometry choices for this purchase were the Orange Diva Pro, (yes its a girls bike), Revel 0 and Cannondale Trail--in that order. The Diva is not easy to get in the states and 3 times the price. The Revel will be great for what I want it for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Jiggles View Post
    I did not know that JDMAW.. yeah I am just going to go with the Revel 0. I will let you guys know how it goes!
    Hey Joey, did you get the Revel 0. I might do the same as well. Wondering how it is...

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    [QUOTE=itsnotbroke;9293432]I picked up the Revel 0 today for ground assault,

    I checked out the Revel 0 and 1, Specialized Hardrock (disc) and the Jamis X3 Trail Yesterday. I must say, I like the Revel 0 and the Hardrock the most. May just go with the Revel 0. The 2011 Hardrock was on sale for $450, tempting, but the lockout RochShox XC28 fork, the Tektro Draco hydraulics and of course that stealth paint job on the Revel 0 may just be enough to convince

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    [QUOTE=mtbdennis;9099877]When I went in to buy my bike I was actually intending on getting the Revel

    After looking at your link, I am liking the Talon...but at just over 5ft tall, it may not work for me

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    [QUOTE=thareek;9295397]
    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    When I went in to buy my bike I was actually intending on getting the Revel

    After looking at your link, I am liking the Talon...but at just over 5ft tall, it may not work for me
    I am 5'5 and the small size fits me PERFECT.

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    [QUOTE=mtbdennis;9295480]
    Quote Originally Posted by thareek View Post

    I am 5'5 and the small size fits me PERFECT.

    Hmm..I'l give it a try. I am 5' 2 if only they made an XS

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    I should have mentioned... even tho I purchased the small, the Large is technically what fits me at 5' 10" if I were to be riding the Revel 0 on the seat.

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    Thanks for the info

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    i would say go for revel 0

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    I've been looking at the Revel 0 as well, what are your thoughts about it since buying it?

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    Just picked up a Revel 0 on Craigslist this morning (bike had been ridden less than 6 times!). Seems to be a really solid ride, and the Kenda Smallblocks are super plush. A few things will need to be upgraded: stem, bars, grips, headset and pedals, but other than that, it is more than suited for my needs Only gripe is the weight, this thing is a pig! My last ride was a Motobecane 700HT which was significantly lighter, on the upside though, the frame on the Revel 0 feels bomb proof.
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    I'm looking to buy the Revel 0 as well for my first mountain bike. Gonna go to LBS this week to check it out. Wish it was on sale though since the 2013 models are coming out. I don't like the 2013 Revel 0 29er.

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    Okay, after 24 hours with the bike, I can attest to the great build quality of the frame, and the weight really doesn't seem to be an issue on the trail. I'm not a fan of the Avid BB5's though, fussy, fussy, fussy. I may have been spoiled by the Tektro Aquila's on my last bike though, they never really needed any tweaking. Also, the Dart 2's are a decent starter fork, but something that you'll most likely want to upgrade after a short time. This is the first MTB I've owned where the geometry is actually comfortable, and it looks pretty sweet too.
    I 86'ed the stock grips last night and put on a set of Lizard Skins Northshore locking grips, love 'em, and they are super grippy regardless of how sweaty, dirty etc.
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    I really liked the paint job on the Revel 0, that flat black just looks sick. But my LBS made me a heck of an offer (I thought) on a Talon 1 and ended up getting that instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79ford View Post
    I really liked the paint job on the Revel 0, that flat black just looks sick. But my LBS made me a heck of an offer (I thought) on a Talon 1 and ended up getting that instead.
    Awesome! I think you will like the Talon (love mine). Great thread about it here: Talon owners .....

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    oyveychris - Where did you get your Lizard Skins Northshore grips? I'm finding a number of them online and they seem to have a very vast range in price from $7.45 (here) to $30.00 (here).


    mtbdennis - thank you for the Talon link!

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    Got them at my LBS for about $20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 79ford View Post
    oyveychris - Where did you get your Lizard Skins Northshore grips? I'm finding a number of them online and they seem to have a very vast range in price from $7.45 (here) to $30.00 (here).


    mtbdennis - thank you for the Talon link!
    No problem!

    I think the difference in price you see on the grips is one is the lock on version (I HIGHLY recommend going this route) and the other is not (think Hairspray and WD-40).

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    Great thanks to both of you! Those grips look pretty cool and from the reviews they are a larger grip which should fit my hands a bit better. I'll go with the lock-on version for sure!

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    The Northshores rock! I will never use the slip-on grips again. They are wider, stickier, look better, and work better than anything else I've ever used. Here's a picture of my bike, I think $300 for a bike that had been ridden twice and still has warranty left from the LBS was a screaming deal!
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    On the Avid BB5's, I found a thread on a different site that details how to tune them in under 5 minutes, mine are now rock solid! Woot!
    "To expand your comfort zone, you have to leave it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyveychris View Post
    On the Avid BB5's, I found a thread on a different site that details how to tune them in under 5 minutes, mine are now rock solid! Woot!
    Um... care to share the link or tell us how you did it???

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    Ha! My caffeine addled brain didn't even think of that, sorry!

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    Thank you kindly!

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    You may have to try it a couple of times to get it perfect, but its well worth the effort.
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    Go get the Revel 0. I have a revel 0 and I love it. Black matt finish is unique.

    I replaced the headset (not bearing sealed), fork (stock is 4kg), groupset to SLX (again, stock is heavy, especially the BB and crank)

    My revel rocks now!

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    I upgraded the fork, wheelset, bars, stem, pedals, seat post and headset on my revel 0....down to 27 pounds...fun bike now. I think it was 34# stock
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    I noticed that the headset was a pretty sad piece of hardware, oh well, add that to the upgrade list.
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    I was left with no choice on the headset. When I upgraded the fork I took a look at the bearings and they were rusty. Put the new fork in and it was crunchy turning, even after I put on some grease. I suppose thats probably my fault because I never serviced them before that. I'm a still a newbie and didn't know any better. I went with a zero stack Cane Creek 40. Really nice piece of kit, I can tell this thing isnt going to go bad anytime soon.
    2012 Scott Scale 29 Expert

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    Go for the Revel 0. Much better bike. You will not regret it.
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    if Revel 0 would be lighter than Revel 1, than I would say 0, but in this case...

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    hi i have tektro draco brakes on giant revel 1..can any1 help me the front disc makes a slight grinding noise when it turns how do i fix this??...

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