Giant Reign Modifications (Not Reign X)
The purpose of this thread is to hear of modifications people have made to their giant reign to find out what works and what doesn't.
I am very interested to know about switching the rear shock for something other than the DHX air. I have also heard of guys changing the stroke legnth on the rear shock to gain more travel ie...from 2" stroke and 6" travel to 2.35" stroke 6.75" travel. Anyone tried this?
Here's my mods;
2009 Giant Reign 0
-36 Fox Talas , brings my head tube angle to 66.5 and the BB just over 14". I really like this setup, makes the reign much more capable on gnarly descents but just as versatile for climbs, XC type stuff. It comes with a 1lb weight penalty.
-KS i950r adjustable seat post with 5" travel. For me this was necessary because as you know the interrupted seat tube on a reign did not allow for maximum extension for climbing AND total drop down for downhill. this post is awesome, adjust on the fly and have the seat right where you want it depending on what your riding. it comes with a 1/2lb weight penalty.
-Chromag 50mm Ranger Stem for better control downhill and less of a felling like i'm going over the bars
-Chromag Fubars OS 730mm for extra stability, less twitchyness
Post your Mods!!!!!!!!
I just installed a RP23 7/785X2.25 on my older 05 frameset. It works so well, that I'm going to swap out the DHX4 on my 08 frame & give it a try.
The seatstay bridge comes very close to the seatube under full compression with no air in the shock, so I installed a hard rubber bumper on the seatube, but I think the ramp up in the shock won't allow contact anyhow, & after a handful of rides, no problems.
The RP doesn't seem to blow through midstroke like my DXH, & I'm getting 6" +, feels great.
I can 35 lbs less air in the RP compared to the DHX, & get a much better feel overall.
Here is my bike, and all of its current mods.
09 Reign 1
-Hayes Stroker Ace brakes 203/180 (I like these much better than the stock elixirs)
-Hope hubs with Spank Rims and DT spokes (heavier than stock WTB wheels, but also stiffer)
-Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5 dual ply tires(similiar traction to the stock Nevegals, more durable sidewall)
-Shimano SLX crankset (I like the gearing better(36/22), and have no need for a big ring)
-Ethirteen DRS Bash/Chain Guide (works great to keep the chain on when going over rocky terrain)
-Kona Wah Wah pedals (bike came with clipless, not my thing)
-Crank Bros Joplin seatpost (a must have for any bike imho)
-WTB Rocket V seat (much better on my ass than that horrible Fizik seat)
-Thomson 70mm 0 rise stem (stock 90mm was too long, the 70 is much better for downhill riding, and only slightly worse for climbing)
-RaceFace Atlas FR Bars(I cut them down to 710mm. The extra width, and lower rise fits me better than the stock mid rise RaceFace)
MODEL - Reign 2 (2009)
SIZES - L (20")
FRAME - AluxX SL aluminium, Fluid Formed, Maestro suspension system, 6.0''/152mm travel
FORK - RS Revelation Race Dual Air 150mm Maxle Lite
HEADSET - FSA
SHOCK - Fox Float RP2
HANDLEBAR - RaceFace Ride XC riser
STEM - RaceFace Ride XC
SEAT POST - Giant Alloy 30.9mm
SEATPOST CLAMP - Giant
SADDLE - WTB Devo SLT (215g)
PEDALS - Shimano M520
SHIFTERS - SRAM X.7 27 speed triggers
FRONT MECH - Shimano SLX
REAR MECH - SRAM X.7
BRAKES - Shimano SLX
ROTORS - Avid G2 185mm
BRAKE LEVER - Shimano SLX
CASSETTE - SRAM PG950 11-34
CHAIN - Shimano HG53
CRANKS - RaceFace Ride XC X-Type 44/32/22
BOTTOM BRACKET - RaceFace X-Type
RIMS - WTB Laser Disc Trail 26"
HUBS - Atomlab 920F 20mm front / Novatech rear
SPOKES - Stainless steel
TYRES - Schwalbe Racing Ralph 26 x 2.25
WEIGHT - 13.12kg without pedals and sigma/13.50kg with pedals and sigma
I need a bit of advice, I have a reign (2008 i think) and WAS running Suntour Rux 130mm forks, I just picked up a pair of RS RECON 351's off ebay, they were advertised as 140mm travel, I looked in to this and it seemed ok. They arrived today and they length of them is the same as my Suntour and the air/weight setup chart on the fork gived settings for 80-130mm travel. I did think maybe keeping them because they are a lot lighter but holding them next to the bike it looks like I would lose about an inch in height and therefore a tighter head angle too.
any advice please?
I'm running a DHX5.0 7.875 X 2.25" stroke coil shock on my '08 Reign. Really happy with it. I weigh 150lbs and am running a 350lb Ti spring. '07 Marz Z1 RC2 (150mm) up front. I'm a fan of coily plushness!
Since you asked.....
Originally Posted by ir803
Any bike with 6" of travel in the rear deserves at least the same in the front.
Just my opinion:thumbsup:
I hear ya,
Getting a little frustrated now though. the Recon's are going back. and I'm looking on ebay and the net for 140mm + lightweight air forks but I have a low budget, so i'm struggling, in the meantime the suntour's I have seems to leak air if I hit anything hard so not really rideable.
I'm looking at RS's Marzocchi's and Fox's,I really want to try to keep the weight under the 2000g mark it ain't looking to good at teh moment.
I keep seeing the Marzocchi RLO forks pretty cheap brand new but I'm hesitant at comments on jamming and the fact that Marzocchi don't recoment you launch off anything larger than a fart with them.
I built up an 08 frame with an 08 Marzocchi 55 ATA which worked very well until it developed issues. Marzocchi just sent me a warranty replacement 2010 55 Micro- ti which after one ride also works very well. I think the best thing you can do for the Reign is run a 160 mm fork.
Thanks, I just won a Marzocchi all mountain 2 150mm on ebay for £101, so pleased with the price let's see how the fork holds up. it's a touch heavier than I hoped for BUT...you gotta face up to the fact that even used, if you want long travel but lightweight you've still gotta pay, all the 44's 55's and fox 32's i saw on ebay went for at least £260, which I know is cheap relative to their new price but I just can't justify spending that much.
I really love this Reign from the Internet, minus the big rotors
Anyone here with a medium Reign runnin a 2010 Lyrik and a dhx 5 or 4? Would really love to see this set up...
So I'm in the process of changing out the fork my XL Reign 0. Looking at either a Lyrik or a 180mm Totem. Anyone know of pros/cons to either of these forks? Both are 2010 2-step air models. Thanks
So I'm in the process of changing out the fork my XL Reign 0. Looking at either a Lyrik or a 180mm Totem. Anyone know of pros/cons to either of these forks? Both are 2010 2-step air models. Thanks:D
Originally Posted by kneecap
yo kneecap, have you tryed this procedure out on your 08 reign yet? the dhx air hasn't been all that kind to me lately.
Originally Posted by gorgechefzeke
i havent seen anyone put a 180mm fork on a reign yet, im curious to see how that'll turn out. i do know guys are loving the totems but those 40mm stanchions might be a bit much for the reign. how about a fox 36 talas or float 180?
Haven't tried the RP on my 08 reign yet, been meaning to. It's been kinda fun to ride the older bike again.:D
Originally Posted by murrdogg11
Looks like there's even more clearance on the 08 at the seat stay/seat tube junction.
I'll do it & repost....
Anyone try out the 170mm Lyrik on their Reign? I was thinking about getting that but them new 2011 Fox 180mm look sweet!
Here is mine. Nothing to crazy just swapped some parts around over the years. I'm about to put a old 55 on it to make it a little more aggressive. I have a few bikes but I must say that I love this rig!!
Anyone know the ideal size for a coil shock on the rear?
What i2i etc am I looking for?
Stock on the 08 and 09 Reign is 7.875x2.0. The Reign X is 7.875x2.25. I have read that you can use a 7.875x2.25 on the Reign as well without issues. That is the route I will go eventually when I switch to coil.
Originally Posted by stefanb
09 Reign 1
Here is my set up.
Stock 09 Reign 1 size L
Mods so far:
Thomson 70mm 0 rise stem
Sunline V one 745mm (cut to 730mm) bars
Atomlab Pimp Sealed pedals
Chromag Trailmaster DT saddle
Ergon GA-1 grips
Recently dropped the big ring and running an E13 DRS Bash/chain guide
Had to cut down stock seatpost 3" to get the seat to drop more
Only a few mods.
2010 Reign 0 (s)
- Ritchey Carbon WCS (from old bike)
- Fizik Grips (Heavier but i like the feel)
- KS i950R (great investment)
- Fizik Gobi Seat (from old bike)
- Mavic Cross Max ST Wheel set (traded in when i got the bike)
- Schwalbe Rear 2.25 Racing Ralph (Rides better than the thicker original at the back)
09' Giant Reign 1
I've made a few changes from stock setup.
-Fox 36 Talas RC2 (2010') (this is the most important upgrade, which really widens the bike's potential)
-Fox DHX AIR 4.0 (2.25 stroke, and a small volume air can)
-Truvativ AKA stem 60mm (stock was too short)
-Mavic Crossline wheelset (more of a AM wheelset, and I needed something with a 20mm thru-axle)
-200mm rotors (f+r), which came with the wheelset, and I weigh nearly 95 kgs with gear, so the standard rotors weren't giving enough stopping power.
-Maxxis ardent 2.4 f+r
Benefits from upgrades:
-Slacker head-angle/more travel makes the bike a lot more capable on the descents. The travel adjust is a necessity, however, as I use it all the time for climbing and general riding. If you're going to get 160mm forks, get a travel adjust one for sure. It also makes it more stable at speed, with the longer wheelbase. The stock forks are ok for general trail use, but if you want to hit downhill specific runs, you'll want a bigger fork
-The new shock rarley bottoms (more progressive from the small air can), which was a real problem on the stock Rp2 XV shock. It seems to use the travel better, with more mid-stroke support, and feels significantly smoother. The new shock also gave the Reign 170 mm travel, which once again, gives a smoother ride on downhill specific runs (I do lifted runs with it as well as general AM riding).
-Wheels are stronger/laterally stiff, but are about 300 grams heavier. The tyres are a lot heavier, but are good for the downs (bad for climbing though, but I mainly climb for fitness so it's OK, kind-of).
This bike was pretty awesome to begin with, but, the upgrades I've made have really turned this bike into a real 'all-mountain' bike, which can still climb, but absolutely rips on the descents. It's not as smooth as a dedicated down-hill bike, but, it's about 80% there, compared to around 50%.
Jose, where did you get the new shock? Any reason why you bought a 4 instead of a 5 DHX?
&, can I ask how much you paid for it?
Originally Posted by Jose86
so hey...you put a rear shock with a 2.25 stroke rather than a 2.00 stroke..
can you please elaborate on what this does to the rear suspension....
ie...less bottom out? less blowing through midstroke travel? more travel? any drawbacks?
Since the shock has .25 inch longer stroke and the reign has a 3:1 ratio you get an extra 3/4" travel. Not a huge difference but it's useful since the linkage doesn't provide much progression until the last bit of travel.
Originally Posted by murrdogg11
I bought it from CRC. No reason in particular, I actually did buy a 5.0, but it the size was misquoted to me. In the end, I just went with the 4.0, because it was cheap and there wasn't anything else going. It's really good though. I find that with the progressive stroke, the bottom-out resist is somewhat redundant.
Originally Posted by kneecap
I paid $260.00 AUD brand new.
It's hard to say, really, since the shock is slightly different. The problem with the stock Rp2 (Aus stock) was that with the correct sag it always blew through the travel. It may be because I am a little on the heavy side, but it is a problem many people have encountered. I figured that the extra travel wouldn't hurt, and I heard of a few people doing it, so I did to experiment. The results are pretty good so far, it doesn't change the stroke at all, it just gives it a bit more of a bottomless feel (as opposed to the stock). As far as I can tell, there aren't any drawbacks, although I did have to shift the front derailleur up, as it would have made contact at full compression.
As a side note, I would like to try a few other setups, maybe a coil shock (I've heard of pretty good results), and maybe a DHX 5.0 (large volume).
Have a question... really want to change out the rear hub to a hope pro II. But I am on a budget and will only be able to do the back for the moment, which I don't think is an issue (or is it?). Can I lace the pro II to the stock WTB laserdisc rim in the mean time or will I have to replace the rim as well? Keep in mind I eventually want to go hope pro II front and back with DT 5.1s and DT comps. BUT until then, is there an issue with just getting the new rear hub and lacing it up to the stock rim with some new spokes?
im no expert on lacing wheels, i think you can use the rims but may need new spokes...
however, what i do know, the cheapest place for hope hubs or custom built wheelsets with hope hubs is chain reaction cycles...even after shipping/duty to north america.
I guess I can either experiment or just get the back wheel built up completely and wait to do the front. The latter of the two seems like the more intelligent thing to do anyway. Besides I am not too concerned about anyone asking why I rock two different wheels haha. Biking on a budget right. If it goes it goes.
Here a some shots of my updated 09 Reign1.
2010 Fox Talas 36
2011 Fox Van RC Coil (2.875x2.25)
Azonic Outlaw wheelset (203 rotors f+r)
Maxxis High Roller 2.35 UST tires
Thomson 70mm 0 degree rise stem
Sunline V-one bars - 745mm cut to 730mm
Chromag Trailmaster DT saddle
Atomlab pimpsealed pedals
Dropped big ring - added e13 bashguard/blackspire 36t middle ring
Ergon GA-1 grips
Weighs in at 34 lbs even.
Originally Posted by twistedshifter
how do you like the high roller ust's?
what about going to the coil shock with extra travel?
Thanks. Kinda mixed on the Highrollers. HR 2.35 are narrower than my Nevegal 2.35's. They are light, fast rolling tires, but I feel they are a bit narrow for the size. As for the coil, night and day difference coming from the DHX4.0, and at 2.25 travel you gain extra travel. Much better handling on jump landing/ drops and rough downhills. No bottom out issues at all (550lb. spring - 195 rider weight.) Climbing with the coil feels no different than with ProPedal on the DHX 4.0. I had to press out the bottom bushing on the VanRC to get the Giant 8mm shock mounting pin to fit (Van RC is spec'd 6mm.) Other than that.....would highly recommend switching to the coil.
I skimmed all the post...I want a 2.25 stroke dhx 5.0 on my reign. If you bottom it out will the air can slam into the downtube. I wanted the new reign x but with all the breakage it will be fine just uping the travel.
Originally Posted by twistedshifter
ok thanks again for the info...im in need of some new tires for my reign on flow rims, if anyone have some recommendations please post em here!
Dont think there would be an issue with the canister hitting the downtube with the 5.0. When switching to 2.25 travel, I needed to raise the front derailleur maybe 1/8 inch to make sure the bottom swing arm does not come in contact when bottoming the shock out.
2008 Reign 01
I've swapped out the stock brakes for the Avid Code 5 ( I love the stopping power)
and most recently installed the Raceface Atlas AM cranks ( love it)
my next move is toward the 2011 Fox 36 Float, seems the logical thing to do
since there isn't much of a weight penalty and I'll be gaining so much more out of the bike.
Although I have to admit the stock Fox 32 140mm Float has held up on everything I've thrown at it (Sun Peaks, Rossland, Beacon, 7-Summits) all those places its done really well.
Anyway I just love this bike and the coloring, I'll probably add a Trance X to the lineup this year.
Are there any warranty issues with changing the stock 32 fork to a 36?
I was considering it but I was thinking it might mess up the geometry and make the bike feel unbalanced...
it doesnt feel unbalanced, but it does slacken your head tube angle and seat tube angle which makes climbing less efficient. this can be overcome by having a travel adjust fork.
the only complaint i have is that it added a half an inch or so the the wheelbase.
Here's another one - 2009 Reign 0.
2010 Fox 36 Talas
CrankBros 4in Adjustable seatpost (Can't live without this thing)
WTB Rocket V Seat
Race Face Bash Guard
Better Kenda's, i flatted the stock's more than any tire i've ever owned.
Nice one. Is that an XL frame? It looks huge for some reason. What wheelset is that?
Originally Posted by M.A.X
yes changing your fork to a 36 does void the warranty. i dont know how sticky they are on this i just always figured if i had a problem i'd take the fork off first or borrow a 32 from someone.
XL and it looks even bigger in person, if you don't have 9 3/4 of steer, you cant fit the fork. Biggest dang bike i've ever owned. The L was just a little too small for me.
I've got a mismatched wheel set, the rear is the stock WTB, the front is from my buddies Trek Remedy. He won a new wheel set in a raffle and graciously sold me the 1 year old front. So its a Bontrager Rhythm, I'm thinking of making it tubeless.
Can anyone confirm fittment of a 2.4 maxxis advantage on the rear of a 2009 Giant reign?
It currently has 2.35 Nevegals with some room to spare.
I am having a hard time finding an appropriate tire to run on the rear of my reign tubeless on some flow rims. it seems you need the bigger sizes to get a strong sidewall and the advantage 2.4 single ply has a reinforced sidewall where as the 2.25 doesn't.
other recommendations welcome;
good grip mostly dry but good for wet days also.
easy tubeless conversion on flow rims
Reign 0 2008, basically all stock except:
- stem: now using a 60mm Raceface Atlas AM ; i have felt a big difference bombing down trails, but it definitely makes climbing difficult and the front nervous on the ups.
- pedals: 50/50 Crankbros , reason, is easier to avoid big crashes with platforms than clips and they looked nice with my Reign“s color.
- Grips: Ergon GA1 white, amazing grips, after this I might never go back.
- complete bike for a 2011 =))))
- Fork: Talas with 15QR axle
- Hubs: Hope Pro II
- Wheelset - but which?
That should fit fine. I am running a 2.5 Maxxis Minion DHF on the rear right now, and had a 2.5 Nevegal on there before that.
Originally Posted by murrdogg11
ditch the Nevegals
by the way, after 10 rides each time having pinch flats in bot tires at the end of the ride, I ditched the Nevegals, and started riding Schwalbes, on the dry , loosy stuff, or gravel roads, the FA Alberts 2.4" with Snake Skin are nothign but great, never flated or pinched.
On the wet and off-camber though...they are scary and plainly gripless. Now Im wating for my Big bettey to arrive and see how they feel.
This is actually my 3rd Giant bike, VT, Faith and the Reign, and on all 3 I had to replace the stock Tires. Nevegals are really good tires and I've been using them for 6 years, just the ones they provided on the Reign (like all their other bikes) blow.
I just wish they would put tires with thicker casing on the bikes, I'm not selecting the bike because its sub 30lbs without the pedals...