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    Giant Reign Modifications (Not Reign X)-marz.jpgMy 09 Reign just got a few upgrades...

    New Marzocchi 55CR to replace the crappy 44 TST2.

    New (used - craigslist) wheelset - Sun-Ringle Charger Experts

    New tires set up tubless (WTB Weirwolf front, Conti Rubber Queen rear)

    Really looking forward to the snow melting to try it out.

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    Those who have put on a 7.875x2.25 or 200x57 rear shock what tune did you guys get?

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    Anyone have asymmetric seatstay on their Reign 2013?

    Mine is approximately wider on the driveside. difference around extra 0.125cm on driveside

    My rear wheel fitted with HR2 2.4 on Red Metal 3. I can see the non-driveside seatstay has some marking just some lines, no deep scratch, when the wheels is warped.

    Haven't test it out since I sent it for a true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_AM View Post
    Those who have put on a 7.875x2.25 or 200x57 rear shock what tune did you guys get?
    I have a mid tune monarch plus and it was pretty good i just put on a x fusion vector coil

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim300wsm View Post
    I have a mid tune monarch plus and it was pretty good i just put on a x fusion vector coil
    Thanks. How are you liking the coil? Most seem to rave about it on here.

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    I put it on last Saturday morning and Saturday afternoon it dumped a foot of snow so all i know is it looks cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by chyu89 View Post
    Anyone have asymmetric seatstay on their Reign 2013?

    Mine is approximately wider on the driveside. difference around extra 0.125cm on driveside

    My rear wheel fitted with HR2 2.4 on Red Metal 3. I can see the non-driveside seatstay has some marking just some lines, no deep scratch, when the wheels is warped.

    Haven't test it out since I sent it for a true.
    I have the blue frame 2013 Reign. The seat stays look to be the same size on my bike but I do have rub marks on both seat stays. I have a an Ardent 2.4 on the back on the stock rim. Whats the HR2 like on the back, I thought they were more suited to the front. I'm thinking about tubeless a set up for the rear and I have a near new HR2 2.3 that's tubeless ready. Anyone know if the stock DT Swiss wheels be run tubeless?

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    As long as you tape them you will be good to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim300wsm View Post
    I put it on last Saturday morning and Saturday afternoon it dumped a foot of snow so all i know is it looks cool
    Haha. Well looks is all that matters right? I mean my bike looks better than the actual rider rides it.

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    its gonna snow again this weekend maybe i will get a chance to check it out next weekend

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    Hey, sorry, OzMtnMonkey, I haven't been here for a while. Hope you've sorted out the problem by now.

    Anyway, I'll second on tim300wsm in that no extra hardware is required to fit the Monarch Plus into the Reign frame. At least as far as the '08 frame is concerned.

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    Giant Reign Modifications (Not Reign X)-reign_2014_2.jpg

    Giant Reign 08

    • Hope Integral headset + Hope Hed Doctor
    • RockShox Monarch Plus RC3 HV
    • RockShox Revelation RL 150 mm Maxle Lite 20 mm
    • DT Swiss XM450 rims
    • Hope Pro II Evo 20 mm front hub
    • WTB LaserDisc SuperDuty 135/12 rear hub + SunRingle Conversion Axle 12/10
    • DT Swiss Competition spokes / DT Swiss Brass nipples
    • Continental X-King 2,4 RaceSport front / Continental SpeedKing 2,2 RaceSport rear
    • Shimano XT cranks / Specialties TA Chinook 24-36 rings / RaceFace Light Bash
    • Shimano XT 11-34 cassette
    • Campagnolo Record C9 chain / Sram Powerlink Gold
    • Shimano SLX double derailleur
    • SRAM X9 med cage rear derailleur
    • SRAM X9 trigger shifters
    • Shimano M785 pedals
    • Shimano XT M785 brakes with RT76 180 / 160 mm rotors
    • RaceFace Evolve AM 70 mm stem
    • RaceFace Turbine 680 mm bar
    • RaceFace Strafe Lock On grips
    • RaceFace Evolve XC seatpost
    • Fizik Gobi XM MG saddle

    Weight 12,8 kg

    Replaced the Schwalbe Ralph/Nic with Continental X-King 2.4/RaceKing 2.2 just recently. Really like the combo - rolls faster with nearly the same amount of grip.
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    2010 Reign 1 (lrg)
    RS Reverb 125mm
    WTB pure V saddle
    RS Monarch Plus debonair 7.875 x 2.00
    RS Revelation 150 RLT
    Flow EX, hope pro II Front DT 240 Rear, 10x135 DT RWS
    high roller 2.3 exo TR rear, conti MK II 2.4 protection front
    X0 rear, medium cage 9 spd
    24, 36 tooth front rings, race face atlas guide, MRP roller
    X9 shifters F/R
    2014 XT brakes, 180 mm ice tech F/R
    Giant contact dh 750mm bar, 50 mm Race Face atlas stem
    ODI SDG grip
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    2010 Reign 1 (lrg)
    RS Reverb 125mm
    WTB pure V saddle
    RS Monarch Plus debonair 7.875 x 2.00
    RS Revelation 150 RLT
    Flow EX, hope pro II Front DT 240 Rear, 10x135 DT RWS
    high roller 2.3 exo TR rear, conti MK II 2.4 protection front
    X0 rear, medium cage 9 spd
    24, 36 tooth front rings, race face atlas guide, MRP roller
    X9 shifters F/R
    2014 XT brakes, 180 mm ice tech F/R
    Giant contact dh 750mm bar, 50 mm Race Face atlas stem
    ODI SDG grip
    XT trail pedal

    Nicely spec. How does the the Monarch Plus ride compare to your old one?

    Wondering what makes you go for Revelation instead of Pike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chyu89 View Post
    Nicely spec. How does the the Monarch Plus ride compare to your old one?

    Wondering what makes you go for Revelation instead of Pike.
    Nice spec indeed. And I am wondering about the Pike as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chyu89 View Post
    Nicely spec. How does the the Monarch Plus ride compare to your old one?
    I test-rode a Monarch on my '10 Reign-1. Light years better than the $hitty DHX 5.0 Air that came stock. Almost as nice as my Fox Van-R coil.

    Wondering what makes you go for Revelation instead of Pike.
    Pike is not an option on the '10 Reign.

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    The Pike would be ideal. The pike does not come in a straight 1 1/8 steerer tube. there are limited options with a straight headtube, and I didn't want to raise the bb height with a 160 mm lyrik or new 36.

    The monarch plus is great, I used to have DHX air. I've rode it on everything, never notice it bottom but uses full travel often. Pedals nice too. Its like a new bike, really.

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    Thanks for the feedback, I was thinking to get a used DHX air from a mate. As the new Monarch Plus cost like almost 2-3 times the DHX he selling.

    Seems like I better looking forward on a Monarch Plus instead.
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    Giant Reign Modifications (Not Reign X)

    DHX Air tuned by Avalanche would be better than anything off the shelf...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chyu89 View Post
    Thanks for the feedback, I was thinking to get a used DHX air from a mate. As the new Monarch Plus cost like almost 2-3 times the DHX he selling.

    Seems like I better looking forward on a Monarch Plus instead.
    If you're looking for good performance and cheap... get an older coil.

    If you're concerned about weight, please disregard my advice.

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    Short shocked reign.

    Posted this in the all mountain forum, but seems more relevant here.

    For all those wondering about fitting a longer shock, well I went the other way. My biggest complaint with the stock reign is that it blows through its travel to easily and feels a bit soft in the back. I swapped the 7.875" spec shock for a 7.25" one with 1.75" stroke. It lowered the bottom bracket (within reasonable
    limits as it's got a 160mm fork) and slacked the head angle out to 64.5º. Totally rails the downhills with no effect on the climbs. If anything, it lowers the overall center of gravity, improves handling, and makes it really easy to jump on and off when things get steep.

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    I don't understand that. Why not tune the shock properly if it blows through travel rather than limiting the bike? I installed a 200x57 on my Trance SX for roughly 6.3"x6.2" of travel F/R. I like the plushness but I've also experimented by adding "too many" volume reducers and I can get it to feel very similar to my 4" XC bike. It doesn't use up all of it's travel or even close to all of it but it tightens up the ride a bit and can make some trails a little more fun and challenging. Plus, with the 6" travel bike using only 4" of travel I never have to worry about landing wrong or anything else causing a hard bottom. I only left it like that for a couple weeks but at least I know it can be done. I would do something like that any day rather than reducing travel. To each his own, if you like it you like it but I just don't understand the reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackthorne View Post
    Posted this in the all mountain forum, but seems more relevant here.

    For all those wondering about fitting a longer shock, well I went the other way. My biggest complaint with the stock reign is that it blows through its travel to easily and feels a bit soft in the back. I swapped the 7.875" spec shock for a 7.25" one with 1.75" stroke. It lowered the bottom bracket (within reasonable
    limits as it's got a 160mm fork) and slacked the head angle out to 64.5º. Totally rails the downhills with no effect on the climbs. If anything, it lowers the overall center of gravity, improves handling, and makes it really easy to jump on and off when things get steep.

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    Hi. This is a great looking bike. I just wonder how did you manage to drop the head angle from the stock 67.5 to 64.5!

    Also I understand the idea of the small rear shock but what about the leverage ratio? The rear link position looks way off!

    I suppose that and angleset would have been a safer choice.

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    Yeah I was worried about that too. At first, I was never happy with the mushy stock rear suspension. Don't get me wrong the Reign steamrolls through rock gardens like warm butter. I prefer that light 'poppy' feel to the monster truck though, so I wondered... if I put a shorter shock in, run it at a higher pressure, I should be able to achieve this thanks to 2 things: The bottom bracket was relatively high anyways, and I had a taller 160mm fork than standard.

    So I did it anyways, and I'm never turning back. It rocks. 64.5º on an all mountain bike sounds crazy but its ridiculous fun going downhill. The lower center of gravity and slack geometry IMO are FAR more influential to performance than an extra inch of travel out back.

    So the downside is that the chain stay is permanently in the virtual pivot point's 'extended' position, so the back feels a bit long, but other than that the leverage seems fine. It just works, amazingly enough!

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    just got nextie 40mm carbon rims w/ DT Swiss 350 rear and a spank front hub. Raceface sixc 760mm bars and a 1x setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim300wsm View Post
    I put it on last Saturday morning and Saturday afternoon it dumped a foot of snow so all i know is it looks cool
    Any reviews yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackthorne View Post
    Yeah I was worried about that too. At first, I was never happy with the mushy stock rear suspension. Don't get me wrong the Reign steamrolls through rock gardens like warm butter. I prefer that light 'poppy' feel to the monster truck though, so I wondered... if I put a shorter shock in, run it at a higher pressure, I should be able to achieve this thanks to 2 things: The bottom bracket was relatively high anyways, and I had a taller 160mm fork than standard.

    So I did it anyways, and I'm never turning back. It rocks. 64.5º on an all mountain bike sounds crazy but its ridiculous fun going downhill. The lower center of gravity and slack geometry IMO are FAR more influential to performance than an extra inch of travel out back.

    So the downside is that the chain stay is permanently in the virtual pivot point's 'extended' position, so the back feels a bit long, but other than that the leverage seems fine. It just works, amazingly enough!
    Do I count properly... you've got 130mm rear wheel travel and 160 front?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_AM View Post
    Any reviews yet?
    Not yet we got alot of snow this year and everything is a soupy mess. As soon as it dries out some i will report back

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    I've tried a couple searches, but not having any luck. This feels like a complete noob question so I'm sure that I'm missing the obvious. I've got a 2011 Reign 2. Picked it up NOS from a guy who rode it twice. Bone stock except for a Specialized Command Post dropper.

    What's the spacing for the rear hub? I'm looking at a set of 2012 XTR Trail Wheels with a 135mm rear hub. Will that fit?

    Are these a terrible choice for some reason? Feel like the stock wheels and hubs are basically garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franticvike View Post
    I've tried a couple searches, but not having any luck. This feels like a complete noob question so I'm sure that I'm missing the obvious. I've got a 2011 Reign 2. Picked it up NOS from a guy who rode it twice. Bone stock except for a Specialized Command Post dropper.

    What's the spacing for the rear hub? I'm looking at a set of 2012 XTR Trail Wheels with a 135mm rear hub. Will that fit?

    Are these a terrible choice for some reason? Feel like the stock wheels and hubs are basically garbage.
    Yes, the rear spacing should be 135mm.
    As for those specific wheels... Sorry, i dunno anything about 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfanto View Post
    Yes, the rear spacing should be 135mm.
    As for those specific wheels... Sorry, i dunno anything about 'em.
    Thanks. Do you know if it's 10 x 135 or 12 x 135? I have to say though when I measured between the rear dropouts it looked to be much closer to 142...

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    It is a 10 x 135 dropout. If you measured without the wheel on , you will get a false measurment. When you tighten the QR you can see the rear triangle flex a litle an becoming narrower. If you change complete wheels it is a goog oportunity to go from simple QR to through axle

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    Agreed, I ran a Hope 10MM thru-axle with a DT Swiss RWS, much more solid as compared to a skinny little qr skewer.

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    Pretty sure it's just a standard qr 10x135.... You'd know if it's a 12x135, it would be a big beefy through axle that would pull all the way out before you could remove the wheel.

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    Just as rideitall, I also got rid of the QR and went thru-axle (10x135) when I picked up a set of Hope Hoops. I'm using the same DTSwiss RWS TA as well. If you wanna go the same route, you'll need to make sure the hubs on those XTR Trails have interchangeable adapters as I'm guessing they're probably just QR.

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    Thanks guys. I ended up going with a set of Hope 2 Pro Evos with Spank Race 28s. Front hub was 20mm, got a conversion kit from LBS for $30, fitted up fine and spins smooth.

    I'm having a problem with the rear wheel though. Hub seems great, super smooth action, bolted up fine with 10x135 bolt on, but the chain slope seems to have changed. With the stock wheels I had perfect front derailleur action, but with the new setup (same cassette) I'm getting terrible chain rub against the lower part of the front derailleur cage. I tried removing the cable and lowering the derailleur but that didn't work. I'll do some digging in the mechanics forums, but thought I'd might as well check in here as well.

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    I also had chain rub from the front derailleur, but only when off the bike (ie: wrenching on the bike stand). However, while riding, it was no longer an issue due to suspension sag.

    Quote Originally Posted by franticvike View Post
    I'm having a problem with the rear wheel though. Hub seems great, super smooth action, bolted up fine with 10x135 bolt on, but the chain slope seems to have changed. With the stock wheels I had perfect front derailleur action, but with the new setup (same cassette) I'm getting terrible chain rub against the lower part of the front derailleur cage. I tried removing the cable and lowering the derailleur but that didn't work. I'll do some digging in the mechanics forums, but thought I'd might as well check in here as well.

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    Very interesting. Thanks cfanto. A buddy had suggested a hub conversion kit, but I couldn't see how that would matter since the wheel already bolts on.

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    It's normal that chain rubs lower, flat part of the front mech cage on certain gears when bike is uncompressed.
    You ride your bike standing on pedals or sitting. The problem doesn't exist when your riding.
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    Just letting you guys know that you can run a 12x135mm if you want to because sunline makes a sweet adapter!

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    Finally, got myself a Monarch Plus RC3 200x57.

    Much more plusher and able to use up the travels compare to previous Monarch RL. So far still on tuning, abit too soft at times, setting in between 25-30%



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    Have you used full travel with this setup? is this a small sized frame? I have a medium 2013 reign and not sure if a 200x57 shock can be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjteo View Post
    Have you used full travel with this setup? is this a small sized frame? I have a medium 2013 reign and not sure if a 200x57 shock can be used.
    Yes. Managed to use it all. but still not properly tuned yet.

    It fits on all Reigns as the eye to eye is still the same, so no worries on swing arm hitting.
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    This is my my '06 reign 3. Some if the upgrades I have made are.

    juicy 5 brakes with 8in rotors
    Marz 55tst
    outlaw rims
    full x9 group set

    I want to replace the rear shock. It is a fox float r. Any recommendations.

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    I'd go coil, myself. There really isn't enough room in the pierced-downtube for any piggyback, is there? Perhaps an old Van-R. I've got one on my 2010 Reign and really like it... simple.

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    I have a 2007 fox vanilla r. The only issue is it is a 7.5 and this bike takes the 7.875. How would this shorter shock effect the bike.

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    Don't put a shorter i2i shock on it... you can get the right-sized Van-R for a song nowadays.

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    I tried putting that shock on and the coil was too wide for the bike to handle. The bike does not have enough room for a coil.

    The air shock that is on there was rebuilt the beginning of last season. Do you think that it is worth replacing.

    PS. I would love to have a coil on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_AM View Post
    Any reviews yet?
    So i finally got to test out the vector coil on my reign. I ran it wide open on compression to see how much bob it had and it was honestly pretty good. I am going to need to fine tune the settings but it seems like this will be the best setup for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Don't put a shorter i2i shock on it... you can get the right-sized Van-R for a song nowadays.
    besides the coil is there any other upgrades you would recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Don't put a shorter i2i shock on it... you can get the right-sized Van-R for a song nowadays.

    Just found this in my area.

    2014 Monarch RT 7.875x2.25 For Sale


    How good is this shock. Is it worth the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksteel7 View Post
    Just found this in my area.

    2014 Monarch RT 7.875x2.25 For Sale


    How good is this shock. Is it worth the price.
    no piggyback no enduro. gotta go enduro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chyu89 View Post
    no piggyback no enduro. gotta go enduro.
    I would like to go piggyback but there is no room in my frame for one. My bike is a 06 reign. I posted a pic on the previous page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksteel7 View Post
    I tried putting that shock on and the coil was too wide for the bike to handle. The bike does not have enough room for a coil.

    The air shock that is on there was rebuilt the beginning of last season. Do you think that it is worth replacing.

    PS. I would love to have a coil on it.
    You can get a coil on it. Unless there is something I'm missing with regards to your particular frame. The fox springs are pretty narrow as far as the outside diameter of the springs goes.


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    You can get a coil on it. Unless there is something I'm missing with regards to your particular frame. The fox springs are pretty narrow as far as the outside diameter of the springs goes.

    I have a vanilla r coil that dose not fit. I cant find any pictures of that era bike with a coil. My frame looks like this.


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    Hey Guys , I think i just read through this entire thread and found so much valuable info !
    I'm currently riding a 2013 Giant reign 2 with A Gamut Narrow wide ring and trail guide. Unfortunately it is starting to get a bit small , especially as i would like to run a shorter stem.

    Luckily just managed to score a 2012 reign medium frame that has a bent rear triangle. My thought is this : Use the Front triangle off the 2012 reign and the rear triangle of the 2013. As i understand the only difference between the two frames is the 2013 has iscg tabs and a slight cutout in the linkage to accommodate this (Please correct me if i'm wrong!)

    Custom paint and some upgrades and i would have a new bike! Can anybody spot any flaw in this ?!?!?!?! Amazing stuff in this thread Especially interested in some of those 650b conversions. !

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    oops double post can i delete this ?
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    Anyone run a CC Double Barrel Coil?

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    Why run a shorter stem if you are on the limit of your frame size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by antdiam View Post
    Why run a shorter stem if you are on the limit of your frame size?
    Would like to use a shorter stem to match my bmx bike with more aggressive handling. Frame is a bit small even with current stem so going to a medium frame and a short stem should be Ok

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    Handling is going to be less playful with a longer frame though. Anyways this frame isn't going to be like a bmx only by changing to a shorter stem on a longer wheelbase...
    If you want it to be more poppy and playful try running less sag. I am 180cm an ride on a medium which i prefer a lot more than a large, although is less comfortble when going uphill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antdiam View Post
    Handling is going to be less playful with a longer frame though. Anyways this frame isn't going to be like a bmx only by changing to a shorter stem on a longer wheelbase...
    If you want it to be more poppy and playful try running less sag. I am 180cm an ride on a medium which i prefer a lot more than a large, although is less comfortble when going uphill.
    I get what your saying and would love to stay on the smaller side of the scale but unfortunately a growth spurt makes me far too big for a small frame. Always told by Bmxers that you ride best as your just growing out of your frame and found that to be true until a point when everything got too cramped.

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    Hey, does anybody have a rear shock guard for the 06 reign. I cant find one anywhere. It looks like this. Picture001.jpg

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    Make one... I made one for my 06 and it worked a treat

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    How did you make it? What did you make it out of?

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    Anyone install a 1x direct mount chain ring on their 2013 reign? Wolf tooth has options for SRAM GXP long spindle cranks or SRAM BB30 short spindle cranks. My reign has a SRAM S2210 crank with removable spider. I'm not sure which chain ring to with.

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    I've got AbsoluteBlack spiderless on Truvativ AKA which is very similar to cheapest Sram cranksets. I, also, have got MRP WaveRing on the way, I hope, as an alternative
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    my updated reign 13.

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    2012 Reign 1 was going to get replaced by an Enduro 29, but I felt there was more life in my bike, so having scratched there stanchion on their Revelation and never being happy with their Monarch shock I have a 2015 Pike Solo Air 160mm and the 2.25 Monarch Plus Debonair on their way, hopefully you guys are right and this setup will be a sensational upgrade!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickz5 View Post
    2012 Reign 1 was going to get replaced by an Enduro 29, but I felt there was more life in my bike, so having scratched there stanchion on their Revelation and never being happy with their Monarch shock I have a 2015 Pike Solo Air 160mm and the 2.25 Monarch Plus Debonair on their way, hopefully you guys are right and this setup will be a sensational upgrade!
    Won't go wrong if the price is right. I was in dilemma with 2015 Reign 2 too while I was on a 2013 Reign 2. But the price to change bike is higher than upgrade the suspensions. I move towards the suspensions upgrade. Pretty happy with what I ride now. could last me a few more years until 26 is total dead.
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    What tune are you guys running on your Monarch? Looking at a RC3 Medium tune. I'm on a 2011 Reign 0.

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    M/M tune. Swap out from a tracer t275.
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    Thanks. Just got one coming in.

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    i had a warranty (stanchion/bushing) issue with the Rev 150, and upgraded to a 36 160 and new tires:

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    Then this happened:

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    Links have a 1 year warranty according to giant. LBS ordered a new one and I had the stock bearings replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjrides View Post
    i had a warranty (stanchion/bushing) issue with the Rev 150, and upgraded to a 36 160 and new tires:

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    Links have a 1 year warranty according to giant. LBS ordered a new one and I had the stock bearings replaced.
    Took you quite awhile to break it.
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    Just read through all 27 pages of this thread. Has convinced me to look into a 2012 reign 2. Bit of a clyde at 6'7 so the frame is an XL. First upgrades will be brakes and fork, then maybe a new rear shock or wheels. Bike is in good condition, only one major scratch. What would you guys price this at? Right now looking at around $1300, has new stem, bars, and rear hub.

    Ive done a little bit of research on the OverDrive technology (2012 has the original overdrive, not the overdrive 2), but still can't find exactly what I'm looking for. Looking for a xfusion slant in 160mm. What mods are necessary for a fork upgrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalrider77 View Post
    Just read through all 27 pages of this thread. Has convinced me to look into a 2012 reign 2. Bit of a clyde at 6'7 so the frame is an XL. First upgrades will be brakes and fork, then maybe a new rear shock or wheels. Bike is in good condition, only one major scratch. What would you guys price this at? Right now looking at around $1300, has new stem, bars, and rear hub.

    Ive done a little bit of research on the OverDrive technology (2012 has the original overdrive, not the overdrive 2), but still can't find exactly what I'm looking for. Looking for a xfusion slant in 160mm. What mods are necessary for a fork upgrade?

    Thanks!
    As long as the fork has a tapered steerer you'll be fine . All you'd need to do is take the crown race off the old fork and put it on the new fork, very easy to do. I would recommend a Monarch Plus Debonair as a rear shock, as you can make the shock progressive by installing the bottomless rings, which I think the Reign really needs. I am 102kg and have put 5 rings in the shock, which means the bike rides higher in it's travel, less pedal strikes and the Monarch Plus provides great climbing traction, I might change it to 4 rings soon just to see if 5 is too much ramp up. As for price I have no clue as I am in Australia. 160mm is great for the Reign.

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    I'm lost to the purpose of using a Debonair shock with volume spacers. It just makes shock more progressive. In that case just get the shock with regular volume can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickz5 View Post
    As long as the fork has a tapered steerer you'll be fine . All you'd need to do is take the crown race off the old fork and put it on the new fork, very easy to do. I would recommend a Monarch Plus Debonair as a rear shock, as you can make the shock progressive by installing the bottomless rings, which I think the Reign really needs. I am 102kg and have put 5 rings in the shock, which means the bike rides higher in it's travel, less pedal strikes and the Monarch Plus provides great climbing traction, I might change it to 4 rings soon just to see if 5 is too much ramp up. As for price I have no clue as I am in Australia. 160mm is great for the Reign.
    Awesome thanks for the reply. Just researched the giant overdrive (1?) tapered steerer today and realized it's the same as most tapered steerer forks at 1.5"-1 1/8" bottom to top. The monarch plus is the rear shock that I was looking at, as well as a cane creek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarinCRO View Post
    I'm lost to the purpose of using a Debonair shock with volume spacers. It just makes shock more progressive. In that case just get the shock with regular volume can.
    Using the bottomless rings is cheaper than changing cans for me. Its nice to dial in the ramp up to my personal taste, especially as I got the 200x57 shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickz5 View Post
    Using the bottomless rings is cheaper than changing cans for me. Its nice to dial in the ramp up to my personal taste, especially as I got the 200x57 shock.
    Any problems with frame/pivot clearances? Read mixed stuff in this thread on what clears the rear and what doesn't as far as the 2.25" stroke shocks. Would slx brakes be a good upgrade for this bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by socalrider77 View Post
    Any problems with frame/pivot clearances? Read mixed stuff in this thread on what clears the rear and what doesn't as far as the 2.25" stroke shocks. Would slx brakes be a good upgrade for this bike?
    I took all of the air out of the shock and cycled it , there were no clearance issues at all. Making the shock ramp up more at the end of the travel with the bottomless rings gives me more peace of micd that there will be no bottom out issue, it also rides higher in the travel which is great as I was having quite a few pedal strikes. Mine is a 2012 Reign 1 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickz5 View Post
    I took all of the air out of the shock and cycled it , there were no clearance issues at all. Making the shock ramp up more at the end of the travel with the bottomless rings gives me more peace of micd that there will be no bottom out issue, it also rides higher in the travel which is great as I was having quite a few pedal strikes. Mine is a 2012 Reign 1 .
    Awesome, looks like I'm set for upgrades then. Will do a new fork at 160mm (hopefully an xfusion slant), monarch plus debonair in the rear, new brakes, and a new wheelset. Recommendations on a good set of wheels for all mountain riding? Strong and light-ish
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    I just run the stock front wheel and replaced the rear after two failures of the Shimano free hub. Now have a Hope bolt-up hub and a Mavic EN821 rim on the rear, which is a strong and light combo IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickz5 View Post
    I just run the stock front wheel and replaced the rear after two failures of the Shimano free hub. Now have a Hope bolt-up hub and a Mavic EN821 rim on the rear, which is a strong and light combo IMO.
    Cool thanks. Rear hub on the bike I'm looking at was recently replaced so if it fails again I'll upgrade it.
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    Has annoy else had bad Cable rub from their dropper post cable on the top part of the Meastro system?Mine has rubbed a grove into the the top rocker and cant for the life of me figure out a better way to run the cable,was thinking running longer cable and use the cable boss on the back of the seat tube from the front mech cable to keep the dropper post cable away from the suspension,its doing my head in,Plus where can i find the Debonair plus upgrade kit for my Monarch rear shock,cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by hain7 View Post
    Has annoy else had bad Cable rub from their dropper post cable on the top part of the Meastro system?Mine has rubbed a grove into the the top rocker and cant for the life of me figure out a better way to run the cable,was thinking running longer cable and use the cable boss on the back of the seat tube from the front mech cable to keep the dropper post cable away from the suspension,its doing my head in,Plus where can i find the Debonair plus upgrade kit for my Monarch rear shock,cheers
    Route your cable on the non-drive side through the linkage straight to BB then joined it with your rear brake cable.

    On the linkage, tie up some cable tie knots to prevent it rubbing the metal parts and wrap some rubbers on the middle pole to prevent cable rubbing when it's fully lowered.

    here's a pic
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    Hey,has anyone any idea if the Fox Float X2 would fit the 2013 reign 2?looking to upgrade the rear shock and was looking at either the Monarch plus or the X2,plus i cant work out what size rear shock i need,i read that i need the 200x50 but can do 200x57 but dont really want to change Geo to much,but when i measured the stantion on the rear it measures 63mm,which doesnt make sense,

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    [QUOTE=hain7;12397256i read that i need the 200x50 but can do 200x57 but dont really want to change Geo to much,but when i measured the stantion on the rear it measures 63mm,which doesnt make sense,[/QUOTE]


    if it is the 216x63 it is not compatible.
    the Reign comes from factory with 200x50.
    200x57 is compatible and will give you more travel, imagine increasing from 150mm to 160mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hain7 View Post
    Hey,has anyone any idea if the Fox Float X2 would fit the 2013 reign 2?looking to upgrade the rear shock and was looking at either the Monarch plus or the X2,plus i cant work out what size rear shock i need,i read that i need the 200x50 but can do 200x57 but dont really want to change Geo to much,but when i measured the stantion on the rear it measures 63mm,which doesnt make sense,
    It doesn't change the geo, it only use up the extra space at the swing arm. But note that the sag must be set based on the original 200x50. Means if on 200x57. You need to set the sag to 20% to get the actual 25% sag.

    Quote Originally Posted by DavideYakuza View Post
    if it is the 216x63 it is not compatible.
    the Reign comes from factory with 200x50.
    200x57 is compatible and will give you more travel, imagine increasing from 150mm to 160mm.
    171mm to be exact
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    Quote Originally Posted by chyu89 View Post
    It doesn't change the geo, it only use up the extra space at the swing arm. But note that the sag must be set based on the original 200x50. Means if on 200x57. You need to set the sag to 20% to get the actual 25% sag.



    171mm to be exact


    I did it on my Reign 2011, putting a monarch plus 200x57, a marzocchi 55ti 170mm on the front, and from an entry level trail bike it become a beast



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    Quote Originally Posted by hain7 View Post
    Has annoy else had bad Cable rub from their dropper post cable on the top part of the Meastro system?Mine has rubbed a grove into the the top rocker and cant for the life of me figure out a better way to run the cable,was thinking running longer cable and use the cable boss on the back of the seat tube from the front mech cable to keep the dropper post cable away from the suspension,its doing my head in,Plus where can i find the Debonair plus upgrade kit for my Monarch rear shock,cheers
    Do you get an upgrade kit to take the monarch to +???

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    Just wanted to see if others experience the same thing in regards to frame flex. On my 2013 reign while sitting on the bike and holding the brakes, the frame can visibly flex towards the non-drive side when applying pressure on the forward positioned pedal. Is this normal? I'm trying to find the source of a creak coming from the bottom bracket area.

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    These bikes are prone to such problems. I ride a 2016 reign and already replaced bushing and bearings because of flex. Just pick up a bearing kit from your LBS if you diy, otherwise take the bike to your LBS and have them replace the linkage bearings for you. I also have an old Giant AC, and I usually change it's linkage bearings twice a year. IOW, what you're experiencing is quite normal, and the frequency of having to change the bearings depends on how hard you ride the bike. Hope this helps.

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    Helping my bro out to figure out why his bike is creaking when pedaling. Here's what I found:

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    Good thing I figured it out before the bushing wore through (got really thin).

    Anyways, I remembered that a 7.875x2.25" coil shock fits this bike. So, I had to extract whatever spacers were on the NOS Vanilla R Shock (with Pro Pedal tech) and get the following RockShox spacer hardware kits:

    Top - 1/2 x 1/2", 28.6 x 6mm
    Botttom - 1/2 x 1/2", 40.0 x 8mm

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    I've seen a Vanilla coil shock mounted in the opposite orientation (spring adjust on the bottom) on another 05 Reign, and it looked very awkward to use. With the spring adjust on the bottom, the frame cage would be in the way during adjustment, so I mounted it as seen in the pictures (with the spring adjust knob on top). That way the rebound knob is fully accessible at the bottom of the bike:

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    That looks good. As long as it clears the frame when going through it's travel it should work.

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    2011 Reign 1 owner here. Stock RP2 shock is toast so I'm searching for replacements. Anything I should be considering other than a Monarch Plus 200x57?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMCDan View Post
    2011 Reign 1 owner here. Stock RP2 shock is toast so I'm searching for replacements. Anything I should be considering other than a Monarch Plus 200x57?
    Go coil.

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    Fox float x2 if money is no problem. Cane creek also if you are on a lower budget. But I have to admit the monarch debonair plus is pretty tits!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Go coil.
    Well yeah, it all depends on what trails he'll be riding. Coil is of little use on normal trails, but it has massive advantages on dh trails and BP. Although some pro DH riders choose air over coil.

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