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    Quote Originally Posted by madstayen View Post
    Well yeah, it all depends on what trails he'll be riding. Coil is of little use on normal trails, but it has massive advantages on dh trails and BP. Although some pro DH riders choose air over coil.
    Yup. I earn all my vert these days so I'm sticking with air. I commonly climb 5k+ on my longer rides.

    Quote Originally Posted by madstayen View Post
    if money is no problem
    I wish! I'm about to spend over a grand on a new 20" bike for my son so I'm definitely budget-conscious at the moment.

    Is there a reason this Monarch is $150 less than anything else I'm seeing on ebay?
    RockShox Monarch RC3 Plus Rear Shock 7 875 x 2 25 White | eBay

    Thoughts on a Float iCD? Prices are quite attractive.
    Fox Racing Float ICD Electronic Rear Shock SV Am 7 875x2" | eBay

    Except for a Cloud 9, Cane Creek's offerings all seem to be out of my budget.

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    EBay is quite dodgy with regards to bike parts imho, rather source it from Amazon, little bit more expensive, but better insurance/security.

    That out of the way, the rs monarch plus is a very good shock, and I personaly wouldn't change it for anything else, except for the float x2. Wrt to the float icd, I have no idea how they compare to a float x2.

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    The M/L tune may be part of why it's cheap. Assuming that the leverage ratios on a 2011 Reign are similar to the 2015 models and I'm reading SRAM's chart right, the Low compression tune doesn't sound like a good fit.

    https://qbp.com/diagrams/TechInfo/vivid.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by madstayen View Post
    Well yeah, it all depends on what trails he'll be riding. Coil is of little use on normal trails, but it has massive advantages on dh trails and BP. Although some pro DH riders choose air over coil.
    There isn't much of a reason NOT to use a coil on "normal trails"... but then, again - this is a Reign. Which in and of itself is of little use on "normal" trails.

    Get the coil. Put a Ti spring on it if you're watching your diet.

    You can thank me later.


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    I know a couple of guys who are riding vivids, with no complaints. You might also want to check out this forumhttp://m.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=166760&pagenum=1

    It's for 2015 and up only, but all the suspension questions you have is covered in great detail here.

    But I personally can't vouch for the vivid as I've never ridden one, but I got talked out of buying one for the reign because the monarch plus is apparently a way better shock for the Reign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMCDan View Post
    Yup. I earn all my vert these days so I'm sticking with air. I commonly climb 5k+ on my longer rides.
    Me too.

    I wish! I'm about to spend over a grand on a new 20" bike for my son so I'm definitely budget-conscious at the moment.
    Spend $200 on the 20" bike. Buy what you want. You win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    There isn't much of a reason NOT to use a coil on "normal trails"... but then, again - this is a Reign. Which in and of itself is of little use on "normal" trails.
    I'm not even sure what this means.

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    Get the coil. Put a Ti spring on it if you're watching your diet.

    You can thank me later.
    Which coil shock then?

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    Spend $200 on the 20" bike. Buy what you want. You win.
    The kid's earned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMCDan View Post
    I'm not even sure what this means.
    I was just meaning that's an awful lot of bike, and going down is what it does best. That said - it's my only bike so I ride it on trails "unsuitable" for a coil'ed bike.

    Which coil shock then?
    I've got a simple OLD Van-R on mine and it works great. NEVER need to adjust anything. All it has is a rebound knob. Depending on how much you want to spend, you could go for something moar fancier. Nice thing - I don't think that there are many bad coil shocks.

    The kid's earned it.
    Been mowin' lawns in the neighborhood? Good for him. Wait... shouldn't he be paying for it himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Been mowin' lawns in the neighborhood? Good for him. Wait... shouldn't he be paying for it himself?
    Earned it meaning he's clearing 10 ft tabletops and doing 3,000 ft descents on 16" wheels and a fully rigid frame. No way is his next bike is going to be some boat anchor with awful geo and parts.

    Thanks for the input.
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    Well - I can tell you for sure... do NOT put a 7.875 x 2.25 X-Fusion Vector HLR coil on a 2010 Reign or any other year with the same frame. The schraeder valve won't clear the frame at full travel.

    I'm getting a Cane Creek DB Coil Inline... I'll let everyone know how that one works out.

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    New question here.

    https://www.giant-bicycles.com/int/r...ot5-2-ltd-2016


    Giant Reign 27.5 2 LTD (2016)

    Questions:
    1) size of front hub? 110x15 or 100x15 or ...?
    2) what's exactly the headset? (FSA No.57 - Orbit 1.5 ZS Tapered - FSA - maybe that?)
    3) what the highest (best) rear and front derallieur and shifter of Shimano I can install?
    4) should there be long, medium or short cage for rear derallieur?
    5) what type of front derallieur is there? Give please a link to suitable xtr der. on some online store, for example https://www.bike-components.de/en/Sh..._desc&limit=20
    6) stock wheels with tubes or tubeless?
    7) main question - is it worth it to go from Giant Reign SX (2013) ( https://www.giant-bicycles.com/int/reign-sx-2013 ) to that one?? ))

    Thank you.
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    Stick with sx, upgrade parts and slap 650B's on. It fits. Sorted.

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    Finally ))

    Giant Reign Modifications (Not Reign X)-img_6941_20170123_234208.jpg
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    Would somebody please give me some advises/answers about udgrading some parts of Giant Reign 27.5 2 LTD 2016 ( https://www.giant-bicycles.com/int/r...ot5-2-ltd-2016 )

    So,:
    1) specs says there is Shimano, Press Fit.
    which one of those will fit that bike https://www.bike-components.de/en/Cr..._desc&limit=20 ?
    a) Shimano Innenlager SM-BB94-41A Hollowtech II Pressfit 41 x 89,5-92 mm
    b) Shimano Innenlager BB-MT800-PA Hollowtech II Pressfit 41 x 89,5-92 mm
    c) Shimano Innenlager SM-BB71-41C Hollowtech II Pressfit 41 x 104,5/107 mm
    d) Shimano SMBB71-41A Bottom Bracket - Hollowtech II Press fit 41x89.5/92 mm
    e) Shimano Innenlager BB-MT500-PA Hollowtech II Pressfit 41 x 89,5-92 mm

    2) specs says fork is - RockShox Pike RC Solo Air, 160mm travel, 15mm Thru-AxleGiant Custom 46mm Offset
    what is the width for hub - 100 or 110 or ... ?

    3) stock cassette is Shimano HG50 11-36, 10-Speed
    can I install Shimano XT CS-M771-10 10-speed 11-36 https://www.bike-components.de/en/Sh...-11-36-o33096/ ?

    4) stock shifters are - Shimano SLX, 2x10 Speed
    a) what are the best shimano shifters right now (except those Di2)?
    b) can I install Shimano XTR v+h Set Schaltgriffe SL-M980-B-I mit I-Spec 2-/3-/10-fach https://www.bike-components.de/en/Sh...-speed-o24358/ ?
    c) is there anything about type of mounts I should think about (before buying shifters) if I'm going to buy Shimano BR-M820 Saint Front and Rear Disc Brake Set https://www.bike-components.de/en/Sh...ke-Set-p45519/ ?

    5) stock rear and front derailleurs are Shimano XT, Shadow + and Shimano Deore NEW
    can I install:
    a) front - Shimano XTR Umwerfer Direct Mount FD-M986-D-A 2-/10-fach https://www.bike-components.de/en/Sh...l-pull-o33011/ ? is it the best?
    b) rear - Shimano XTR Schaltwerk Shadow Plus RD-M986 10-fach https://www.bike-components.de/en/Sh...-short-o20079/ or Shimano XTR Schaltwerk Shadow RD-M981 10-fach https://www.bike-components.de/en/Sh...-short-o20079/ ? which on better? why S+ costs lower (I thought it would be higher price because of technology S+)?

    Thanks for your help. I'm newbie about shimano (always used sram), that's why so many (mayby stupid) questions.
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    @ka81ua nice ride. I own the exact same one. Ditch the 2x setup and go 1x. Shimano XT is cheap enough and a little more durable than it's sram equivalent. Go xtr if you're a weight weenie, but with these bikes it shouldn't even matter! Di2 still has too much problems which you really don't want 300 miles into the jungle etc. Slap some magic Mary's on the front and you'll have grip for days. I did found the stock stem was a little long, so I swapped it out for a 30mm. Adjust the suspension to be super plush and you'll have the time of your life on the downs! Good luck mate!

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    Oh yeah, and some saints for calipers is what this bike really needs!

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    Well, thanks for advises of course, but still - I left some exact questions with potential answers..

    I'm not weight weenie, but I like (when i have a possibility) to make upgrades to a better (higher in hierarchy) compnents on my bikes. Shopaholic.. ))

    I'll left 2x cause till now always has ridden on 1x and now I'm interesting what ist to be using 2x.

    About shifters and derailleurs, as I said already - no Di2, only wires! ))

    Brakes - somedays it will be Saints, but not today.
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    ● Not sure about the BB. ● Hub is 110mm ● Install shimano xt or xtr 11/36 cassette, that way you can always upgrade to a 42t cog later 😉 ● best shimano shifters are xtr, my personal rig are fitted with these! ● No special mounts needed for going saints on calipers in front, although I had to use one on the rear when I ditched the 180 for a 203 ● Any xtr derailleur is awesome, all of them fit, just make sure however it's a 10 speed mech if your cassette is 10 speed. If your planning on upping to 11/42 later make sure you get a medium cage minimum, and get a longer b-tension screw. ● If shadow plus costs lower, it's either on special or it's a previous generation mech. ● Now, if you really want to upgrade your rig with something that's REALLY worth it, if you're the shopaholic you claim to be, ditch the wheels and get a pair of Stan's Flow ex on some Hope hubs! That's the only place on the whole rig where you can definitely benefit from an upgrade.

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    thank you.
    Yes, wheels will be upgraded but much later cause they need a lot of money to spend.

    about cage, I see only short or long cage for both derailleurs I mentioned... Which one for 11-36 cassette BETTER?
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    Short is better, until you upgrade to a one up 42 cassette, then the longer cage is good. It's pretty basic really, these bikes climb okay at best, but really shines going downhill, and the less stuff hanging out to hit rocks the better, hence +10 for short mechs, +10 for saint and zee!

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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    Quote Originally Posted by madstayen View Post
    Hub is 110mm
    https://www.sram.com/rockshox/products/pike-rc
    LOWERS Magnesium, 15x100mm Maxle Ultimate, disc only
    where is the truth?.. ))
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    Yip, you're right, it's 100mm, I had to go and measure it now. One of my YT's are 110mm. Must've gotten them mixed up in my head somehow. Sorry for that mate.

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    So the only way is to measure my fork to find out the real width for front hub?..
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    I am pretty sure all 2016 reign's came with the same size fork and thus should be 100mm.

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    What's the rear travel in that bike?
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    Reign? Just over 160mm

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    But 160 according to Giant

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