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    2008 Reign XO!!!!!!

    Well i just ordered one of these gems today. Giant is having a blowout of there left over 08 frame sets for only $770 so i got one. My question is can you run a DC fork on this frame? I have a 06 Rock Shock boxxer ride thats adjustable from 133mm to 177mm that i have lying around the bike room. I figure this would work good cause i could run it in 160mm mode then if i want to run the bike DH then i can go all out to 177. Also what does this frame use for a headset, integrated or regular? Thanks for the help inadvance.
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    DC fork...I cant remember at all, should be fine, but check.

    Integrated head sets always, thats Giants thang.

    Congratulation on a sweet frameset matey and be sure to post that beauty in the XO Set up data base when you can. As well as the mandatory bike porn pics.

    A 180 fork is also great and totems rock with it well enough so I would also assume your other DC fork would be well suited with the adjustable travel, but I do not know much about them and I hvae never used them, sorry mate.

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    Do you need to contact Giant directly or go through a dealer for these frame blowouts?
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    Damn, that is a smokin' deal.

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    The dual-crown fork will void the warranty, as only the Glorys are designed for them. People do it, but it's your headtube and health.

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    I would imagine you would need to go to a Giant dealer to get that deal as i did. The frame showed up today, I ordered it last Wednesday. They sent it 2nd day air and on top of that it came with a headset and a shock pump. Go Giant I'm totally impressed.
    Mike G.

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    Thats funny because i spoke with 2 Giant dealers today and not one of them offered a frame at that price.I'm interested in a frame were did you get it?

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    reign x frame

    Quote Originally Posted by lv4sndz
    Well i just ordered one of these gems today. Giant is having a blowout of there left over 08 frame sets for only $770 so i got one. My question is can you run a DC fork on this frame? I have a 06 Rock Shock boxxer ride thats adjustable from 133mm to 177mm that i have lying around the bike room. I figure this would work good cause i could run it in 160mm mode then if i want to run the bike DH then i can go all out to 177. Also what does this frame use for a headset, integrated or regular? Thanks for the help inadvance.
    Mike G.
    Were did you get it at that price?

    Sorry for the double post.I didn't think the first one went thru...

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    I got mine 2 weeks ago for pretty close to that price, $850. guy said it was the last XS left, feels exactly like my small bottlerocket did.

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    I got it at S&W sports in Concord NH. When i was at the bike shop last Wednesday they (Giant that is) said that they only had a couple left. Have them call Giant them selfs and see if they have any left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dagmz6s
    I got mine 2 weeks ago for pretty close to that price, $850. guy said it was the last XS left, feels exactly like my small bottlerocket did.
    I was quoted 1300.00 for med.Maybe you got such a good price because of the size...

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    I picked up a Large for 870..Its the frameset that is in the catalog..Grayish Blue
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    reig frame

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    I picked up a Large for 870..Its the frameset that is in the catalog..Grayish Blue
    Were?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainbiker24
    The dual-crown fork will void the warranty, as only the Glorys are designed for them. People do it, but it's your headtube and health.
    Unless that is specifically spelled out somewhere, legally they can't deny warranty for that. Besides most companies spell out a fork travel as the defining spec for a fork. The guys at Giant I've spoken with said it can handle up to a 180mm fork. They didn't specify the number of crowns.

    A 180mm dual crown is not magically putting higher forces into the frame over a 180mm single crown. The reason dual crowns exist is that they distribute load so much better on the head tube. Funny thing is that usually the axle-to-crown height is typically less for the dual crown (just has a thin bottom crown) which is really the most important number. Imagine landing a big jump rear wheel heavy (rear fully compressed) and then slamming your front end down. The angle that the wheel hits at and the fact that the fork is fully extended means really high leverage on the head tube and you have the classic headtube failure near the welds starting at the downtube. Obviously, nosing in hard does the same to the TT.

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    i got an '08 X1 (complete) last friday. i asked my dealer if they had any leftover stock available and his rep. sent him a closeout list. i didn't see it, but was told that usually small and x-larges are available long after the other sizes. i got mine for a 25% discount over msrp. couldn't be happier. seems to be the same bike as '09 in a different color. i was even happier that mine came with nevegals over wtb tires even though they were listed as wtb in the '08 specs. everything else was as stated on giants site for '08. NOTE: page 5 of the giant dual suspension quick-start guide version 3.0 clearly says dual crown only on glory frames. anything else voids the warranty. personally i agree with everyone thinking it would be okay, but that's what the book says. they gotta cover their a-s like everyone else nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatfreeheeler
    Unless that is specifically spelled out somewhere, legally they can't deny warranty for that. Besides most companies spell out a fork travel as the defining spec for a fork. The guys at Giant I've spoken with said it can handle up to a 180mm fork. They didn't specify the number of crowns.

    A 180mm dual crown is not magically putting higher forces into the frame over a 180mm single crown. The reason dual crowns exist is that they distribute load so much better on the head tube. Funny thing is that usually the axle-to-crown height is typically less for the dual crown (just has a thin bottom crown) which is really the most important number. Imagine landing a big jump rear wheel heavy (rear fully compressed) and then slamming your front end down. The angle that the wheel hits at and the fact that the fork is fully extended means really high leverage on the head tube and you have the classic headtube failure near the welds starting at the downtube. Obviously, nosing in hard does the same to the TT.
    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/backof...de20070609.pdf

    Warranty is void if you use a dual-crown fork on a Reign x. Double crown forks do put more stress on a headtube, as the fork flexes less. This puts more stress on the frame. While headtube angle does make a difference, a double crown fork, with the same head angle as a single crown fork, will put more stress on the frame.

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    Double crown forks put more stress on frames than single crown forks with comparable axle-to-crown distances. Less flex in the fork=more stress on the frame. That said, you might put more stress on the lower bearing in your headset with a single crown fork.

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    While I don't totally agree with your statements on stress. Nice find on the warning, I glossed right over that paragraph when I scanned it. I stand corrected, a DC will void your warranty for a headtube failure.

    "Only Giant Glory and Glory DH model bicycles are engineered for use with dual crown
    suspension forks. Use of dual crown suspension forks on any Giant bicycle other than these models
    will void the warranty and may result in frame failure, which can cause injury or death. Giant Bicycle,
    Inc. is not responsible for damages to the bike and rider resulting from the use of dual crown forks."

    Although, I personally wouldn't hesitate to run one on a Reign X I'm totally waiting for Specialized to build a 180mm Future Shock. I wish all forks were DC.

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    OMG...How dumb of me. When the dude said DC forks, I was assuming he ment a brand (hence I had no idea, I thought they were a brand I had never heard of...?) and not "Dual Crown" forks...ha ha ha, oh gosh where's my coffee lol...or, brush-up on my achonyms and possibly both.

    So yeah...erm, DC forks can be run on the GRX's if they display a lower A2C length than what might be considered typical DC A2C lengths I guess but as many have already said and one poster has already cut'N'paisted, Dual Crown forks will most definitely void your warrenty.

    Sorry about my misconfussion chaps.

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    I'm running a dual crown on my 05 Reign 1. I've not abused it yet, but I'm going to, and won't be surprised it the frame fails - though I suspect it will be fine. Time will tell. I'll be sure to post if it fails.

    I've seen plenty of photos of Reigns with dual crowns, but have yet to read of anyone breaking a frame because of it. Knowing the interweb, and how people seem to go rabid when a bike or part fails, I'd expect to see a few threads about it. But I've seen very little in the way of ANY Reigns breaking... for any reason. Anyone have links to Reigns with broken head tubes/frames from DC use? (I have seen plenty of photos of Kona frames that have suffered that exact fate...)

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