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    What an Arse!!!

    As you may have seen a few weeks ago I introduced myself as a new guy, because I am. I bought me a bike a couple of weeks ago, but I am still not able to get my bike out on the trail as I am still in a boot letting my broken ankle heal from a motorcycle accident. I went out today to a local park with a good trail that I've been researching to get a look at it. I was walking in the parking area, not on a single track mind you, and 2 guys on mountain bikes came by me and yell "look out fat guy." Mind you I am not a small guy, I'm 300 pounds, and I know it. As they rode away I heard them say "I hate when fat people get in our way." I am getting into biking for both weight loss and the adrenaline rush that I am looking to replace as I am no longer riding motorcycles (wife's orders). My question, especially after reading another post where someone was bragging they did not help a road cyclist, is this the attitude from the majority? I expect a few, as in all things some people are just arses, but hopefully these folks are few and far between. Thanks for reading my rant, I'll jump off my soap box, I have a report I need to turn in before 5pm..lol.

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    That's not the norm ,but there are jerks everywhere.

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    I would say the minority. But fat people strike a lot of folks pet peeves today so I can understand it. Obesity is making our health care costs skyrocket. I also hate when some fat slob hogs up a grocery isle or two big sows walking shoulder to shoulder take up 5 feet of trail width. I think you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    Don't let it discourage you though, get on your bike asap and watch those pounds melt away. You'll look and feel much better afterwards. I commend you for wanting to change your life in a positive manner. If your in GA I'll ride with your fat butt any day! We can be the Laurel and Hardy of the mountain!

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    That's so NOT the norm with the mtb community, that it's hard to believe it actually happened. The mtb community is comically cordial. I don't think I've ever passed a stopped rider on the trail and not yelled "All good?!" - same the other direction, e.g. when I'm on the side of the trail.

    I've heard the following comments at the front of Cat-2 races...
    - "Hey guys! Wait up!"
    - "Come on... it's not a race"
    - "Sweet socks"
    - "GO! GO! GO! - from a female pro whom I had just passed (I'm a dude, she was LAST in her field and still that fired up!)
    - This list could go on and on...

    The point - you may have already met the 1% - the insignificant number of douchebags who call themselves mountain bikers. The good news is, you got that out of the way!

    Enjoy the ride! I hope I see you out on the trail.
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    Those guys aren't mtbers..... they're *****, and probably talk a lot about "wheel" size too I imagine. The behavior gives me the impression they're young and dumb, ruining it for other courteous and thoughtful youth. Don't listen to them, they're taunting and hopeful for rabbit ears to instigate another to anger in an effort to prove to themselves they matter. Just put the wheels to the ground, the foot to the pedal, and roll away on your own adventure.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    I find the mountain bike community to be a good group, but as in all groups, there are always a couple douchebags. Probably a couple disguised roadies looking for some graded forest roads to ride on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladmo View Post
    I find the mountain bike community to be a good group, but as in all groups, there are always a couple douchebags. Probably a couple disguised roadies looking for some graded forest roads to ride on.
    Roadies are only uptight on the road. Roadies who ride the trail are very different... see my signature below... and yeah, you're slow ;-)
    Mountain bikers who don't road ride are usually slow.
    Roadies who don't mountain bike are usually d***s.

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    Thanks everyone, that's what I assumed, as I said in my post I know arses are everywhere and you will run into some in anything you do. Glad to know they are the minority. Can't wait to get on the trails, tired of sitting on my bike in the garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldZaskar View Post
    Roadies who ride the trail are very different... see my signature below... and yeah, you're slow ;-)
    Only uphill....

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    Start out with some easy trails so you don't get discouraged and work yourself up from there. Mtnbiking is a great way to loose weight and have fun.

    By next year you may be racing

    Oh....don't worry about people who judge, it's just bad gene pool.

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    Strav*******s, most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fontarin View Post
    Strav*******s, most likely.
    Strava gets a really bad wrap... I use it all the time. Couldn't care less about the KOM's, but it's nice to record my rides and give myself goals for upcoming rides.

    To the OP- I'm a 300lber too. Those dudes can Suck it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVaz View Post
    Strava gets a really bad wrap... I use it all the time. Couldn't care less about the KOM's, but it's nice to record my rides and give myself goals for upcoming rides.

    To the OP- I'm a 300lber too. Those dudes can Suck it!
    Oh, I use it too, but I see people trying to get a KOM or PR or something and causing headaches for other trail users.

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    Ohhh, I thought there were gonna be pics of an arse. Oops. Anyway there are a$$holes in every group. Mountain biking is normally much better than that.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    What an Arse!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BigVaz View Post
    Strava gets a really bad wrap... I use it all the time. Couldn't care less about the KOM's, but it's nice to record my rides and give myself goals for upcoming rides.

    To the OP- I'm a 300lber too. Those dudes can Suck it!
    It gets a bad wrap because so many of it's users are straight up puscuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David R View Post
    Only uphill....
    Well, I'm kinda slow on the downhills... But in my defense, I've only been mountain biking 26 years. So, give me time. (seriously, it pisses me off how slow I am on descents)
    Mountain bikers who don't road ride are usually slow.
    Roadies who don't mountain bike are usually d***s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldZaskar View Post
    Well, I'm kinda slow on the downhills... But in my defense, I've only been mountain biking 26 years. So, give me time. (seriously, it pisses me off how slow I am on descents)
    No brakes.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Don't worry about those Jack wagons. Get out and ride.

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    That's shocking and not at all a representation of what mountain bikers are like. Sorry to hear that happened to you. If I was there with you at that time, they'd get a mouthful (or more) right back at them.

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    I'm curious where this happened, but yeah, not the norm. Most of us are happy to see anyone out doing something physical, including hiking.
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    When I'm out on the dirt or about to depart from a parking area or arriving from a ride, I'm in a GREAT MOOD. This is an important escape from reality for me so it both physical and mental medicine packed into one.

    I just can't see why anyone would have bad things to say unless they were miserable lifeforms searching for happiness but never finding it, always outcasts, worthless lumps of life...

    Am I getting carried away here?

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    Don't let it get to you.

    The other day I was riding solo, and decided to try the whole intermediate trail at Stillwell woods. I'm not in the best shape but I'm trying really hard to change that.

    Well there are some hills that I haven't been able to complete, but this day I was determined. The first hill, which is the longest one that I couldn't make, I see a biker pretty far up ahead, but I put my head down and grind up this hill. I make it to the top and I'm winded but happy. The next few hills all go the same, clean everyone, but man I'm tired.

    At the last sandy hill, I have me eyes down, I'm tired as hell, sound like I'm having an asthma attack, but I make it! Right before the crest I see the rider I saw earlier smiling giving me the thumbs up and he says "great job"

    It was one of the nicest things I've heard on the trail. I thanked him and we went separate directions, but I'll remember that for a long time.

    You'll meet plenty of great people out there, don't think that those idiots are all of us bc they are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladmo View Post
    I find the mountain bike community to be a good group, but as in all groups, there are always a couple douchebags. Probably a couple disguised roadies looking for some graded forest roads to ride on.
    How ironic. If you were part of this "good group" you wouldn't make such blanketed statements towards Roadies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatshowiroll View Post
    How ironic. If you were part of this "good group" you wouldn't make such blanketed statements towards Roadies.
    What, there's something wrong with riding graded dirt roads? Don't feel bad if that's your thing. No one is judging.

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    Everyone likes to talk about how cool and respectful mountain bikers are...but yet in the same thread here they are acting like douchebags ragging on roadies. Mountain bikers seem to be the ones with the attitudes and have the constant need to trash others that don't ride bikes like they do. Funny thing is...go to a roadie forum where all the "a-holes" supposedly hang, you almost never see a post started with the sole purpose of talking sht about mountain bikers. Here, roadie trashing threads pop up weekly.

    So yeah, I'm not surprised it happened. I find that mountain bikers are often a younger crowd and as such, there tend to be a lot of disrespectful punks out on bikes and on the trails. Next time a stick through the spokes will shut them up. Get out there and ride and don't worry about what the douchebags say. Congrats on making the jump to better your health and get down to a healthy weight. Been there done (still doing) that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster View Post
    Everyone likes to talk about how cool and respectful mountain bikers are...but yet in the same thread here they are acting like douchebags ragging on roadies. Mountain bikers seem to be the ones with the attitudes and have the constant need to trash others that don't ride bikes like they do. Funny thing is...go to a roadie forum where all the "a-holes" supposedly hang, you almost never see a post started with the sole purpose of talking sht about mountain bikers. Here, roadie trashing threads pop up weekly.

    So yeah, I'm not surprised it happened. I find that mountain bikers are often a younger crowd and as such, there tend to be a lot of disrespectful punks out on bikes and on the trails. Next time a stick through the spokes will shut them up. Get out there and ride and don't worry about what the douchebags say. Congrats on making the jump to better your health and get down to a healthy weight. Been there done (still doing) that.
    I agree with you on several, most points, but... Roadies - pure, non-dirt-riding roadies can be an uptight breed. I average 4,500 miles a year on the road. I ride in lots of groups, races, etc. Yes, they can be douchey, uptight, etc. They've earned that rep'.

    Threads on roadie forums very often devolve into arguments, name calling etc. But - to your point - it is rare that you'll see any mountain-biker-bashing. Most references to mountain biking are positive, e.g. good interval training, good winter training, a break from the monotony of the road, another way to enjoy the sport, etc. And - to your point - the roadie bashing is surprisingly common in the mountain biker forums. I suspect you're right about the age thing being a culprit.

    NOTE: The uptight roadie thing is so well-known, that it's come up as a topic, e.g. "why are we such an uptight bunch?". Some of the reasons are actually pretty logical and rational...
    - The stakes are higher. Crashing at 25 mph on pavement hurts. It really really sucks. Riding beside, behind, in front of someone who's a bit skittish, squirrelly cannot go unchecked. Not holding ones line, over-braking in response to the compression of the line, coming in tight on turns, half-wheeling... the list goes on on and on. The harder the effort, the more on edge the rider is.
    - The sport is primarily judged by how fast one is. Not style. It's simply a game of suffering and the reward for that suffering. And, because road riding is often a pack sport (races, group rides, etc.), every ride is an opportunity to show how fast you are. Yeah, it's an organized pissing match.
    Mountain bikers who don't road ride are usually slow.
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    When I was heavier, over 350, I experienced similiar things. Hell, even is this thread the third poster shows his own hatred and insecurity about overweight people. Terms like "hogs" and "sows" say more about him than anything else. As many have already said, there are jerks in every group. Don't listen to them, get out and ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladmo View Post
    What, there's something wrong with riding graded dirt roads? Don't feel bad if that's your thing. No one is judging.
    By trying to insult me, you're showing your true colors.


    Admittedly, Roadies can be d!cks, but you will rarely hear or read about roadies insulting MTBers WRT lack of skill, clothes, even sexual preference.

    I Love MTBR, but anytime roadies are brought up, apparently they (we) are gheys in spandex, looking for groomed trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldZaskar View Post
    I agree with you on several, most points, but... Roadies - pure, non-dirt-riding roadies can be an uptight breed. I average 4,500 miles a year on the road. I ride in lots of groups, races, etc. Yes, they can be douchey, uptight, etc. They've earned that rep'.

    Threads on roadie forums very often devolve into arguments, name calling etc. But - to your point - it is rare that you'll see any mountain-biker-bashing. Most references to mountain biking are positive, e.g. good interval training, good winter training, a break from the monotony of the road, another way to enjoy the sport, etc. And - to your point - the roadie bashing is surprisingly common in the mountain biker forums. I suspect you're right about the age thing being a culprit.

    NOTE: The uptight roadie thing is so well-known, that it's come up as a topic, e.g. "why are we such an uptight bunch?". Some of the reasons are actually pretty logical and rational...
    - The stakes are higher. Crashing at 25 mph on pavement hurts. It really really sucks. Riding beside, behind, in front of someone who's a bit skittish, squirrelly cannot go unchecked. Not holding ones line, over-braking in response to the compression of the line, coming in tight on turns, half-wheeling... the list goes on on and on. The harder the effort, the more on edge the rider is.
    - The sport is primarily judged by how fast one is. Not style. It's simply a game of suffering and the reward for that suffering. And, because road riding is often a pack sport (races, group rides, etc.), every ride is an opportunity to show how fast you are. Yeah, it's an organized pissing match.
    I ride mostly road out of convenience. I ride with a lot of other people. I find that people that ride the road only are just as nice and cool as people that ride only dirt and of course there's roadies out there that are a-holes...just like this thread and this site proves there's a LOT of folks on the dirt that are straight up douchebags. Only difference, mountain bikers are insecure and immature and feel the need to bash and talk sht about others to make themselves feel better. Or maybe the roadie hate just comes from those that can't hack it on the pavement...I don't know...but it's a pretty old song and dance that needs to stop.
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    You guys need to stop taking yourselves so seriously.

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    No, what needs to stop is the pointless bashing. It only makes you (and the others that do it) look like the as$holes that you are trying to make others out to be. Kinda funny how that works but it gets old fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster View Post
    No, what needs to stop is the pointless bashing. It only makes you (and the others that do it) look like the as$holes that you are trying to make others out to be. Kinda funny how that works but it gets old fast.
    I agree with Nubster. It gets really old really quick dealing with the juvenile attitudes and postings some people do on this message board. Enough already, grow up.

    I know that statement is going to fall on some deaf ears, as there are many who enjoy being jerks on a message board because they think they have anonymity and a captive audience....

    What an Arse!!!-dwad-theory.jpg

    Seriously, I'm not condoning violence, but I do expect if you acted the same way in reality that you act here you would get your ass kicked.

    To the OP, regarding what happened to you at that park: stay with it man. Don't worry about the jerks and what they say. They are just trying to build themselves up by knocking other people down...cant stand on their own character, as they have none. Props to you for your intent to ride for fun and health.
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    You guys are wayyy out there on this one. It was a single sentence that in reality is nothing more than a tongue in cheek dig at roadies, not some major, scathing, anti-roadie rant. Get some perspective. Why so sensitive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladmo View Post
    You guys are wayyy out there on this one. It was a single sentence that in reality is nothing more than a tongue in cheek dig at roadies, not some major, scathing, anti-roadie rant. Get some perspective. Why so sensitive?
    You're the odd man out on this one. Disrespect, even "tongue in cheek" is not called for. Then to defend it shows any lack of sincerity imo. To use your own words, why so sensitive?

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    Carry a tampon in your pocket. If it happens again yell at them " Hey man. You dropped something!" When they turn around and ride back to you hand it to them with a big grin on your face.

    No they are not typical MTB`s. I greet everyone I see on the trail. I say thanks when they let me by and scoot over or stop to let them by. Its simple trail etiquette.
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    I just hooked up a lifelong friend with a bike. He is around 300. We start riding next week. Keep this quote in mind (came from this forum, can't remember who):

    "It doesn't get any easier, you just get faster"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozle View Post
    I just hooked up a lifelong friend with a bike. He is around 300. We start riding next week. Keep this quote in mind (came from this forum, can't remember who): "It doesn't get any easier, you just get faster" - Greg LeMond
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    Holy hell. No it doesn't happen, sounds like a teenage response to me.

    Re roadies - guys get your **** together, antipathy towards roadies has always been tongue in cheek for mtbers . It's getting more serious, because some people just don't get sarcasm - get a sense of humour and stop taking everything at face value!

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    When I started mtb with a buddy we were the fat guys. We always used being overweight and out if shape as ways to motivate each other in the special way that men can... We talked a lot of Shlt to each other at all times during the ride. Every joke was a victory for us.

    These guys were dlcks though. Oh well. It's life and not everyone is worth knowing.

    Use it as motivation to stoke the weight loss fires.

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    ignore stupid, it's pointless. they most often travel in groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldZaskar View Post
    - The stakes are higher. Crashing at 25 mph on pavement hurts. It really really sucks. Riding beside, behind, in front of someone who's a bit skittish, squirrelly cannot go unchecked. Not holding ones line, over-braking in response to the compression of the line, coming in tight on turns, half-wheeling... the list goes on on and on. The harder the effort, the more on edge the rider is.
    - The sport is primarily judged by how fast one is. Not style. It's simply a game of suffering and the reward for that suffering. And, because road riding is often a pack sport (races, group rides, etc.), every ride is an opportunity to show how fast you are. Yeah, it's an organized pissing match.
    Isn't this the truth? I work at a shop that hosts organized group rides that typically attract 200+ and occasionally more than 300. Minimum of 5 different groups. Frequently larger groups will split to avoid clogging the road. Everything from 30+mph avg to 13mph avg. I can't tell you how many times riders get seriously injured due to someone being an idiot. A couple weeks ago, a bunch of riders went down in a pile because someone fired a shotgun at something else (target? nobody knows) on a nearby farm and spooked them. One of the guys suffered several broken bones, and he was a rider well known for stopping to render assistance to other riders for flats, wrecks, etc.

    But yeah, I hear lots of stories about people who were being dumb and someone yelled at them to get them back in line.

    The competitive groups are not for me. Sometimes I'll go on the slower paced rides on my steel commuter, though. Those folks want to ride in a loose group, but not so much in a peloton.

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    Hi, I remember your introduction post and you being from Killeen. Just out of curiosity which trail system did this occur at? The mountain biking community is made up of people and unfortunately as we all know some people can be real douches. If someone who is a douche starts mountain biking they won't stop being a douche. Usually. Anyway, I'm really sad to hear one of your first times out happened like that. I assure you the people in that meetup I posted to you would never treat you that way if you are needing any reassurance or a motivation boost. Keep at it! I personally have never ran into extreme rudeness like that but on the occasion you'll get the person who ignores you or is smug at the trail head, but f*ck em.

    To clarify, I reread your post and see you actually weren't riding yet. Well man as an offer of solace to prove not all MTBers are bad people once you get better PM me and I can give you a nice beginners tour of Dana Peak. Maybe knock out a couple miles till you call it quits, so let me know.

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    To heck with them.

    Here this should make you feel better:
    On my morning walk this morning in the rain. It was raining pretty good, (for MTB content: I was testing a new to me Cannondale jacket). A guy in a white pick-up totally got into the gutter to splash me. LOL

    There wasn't anyone coming, he got right into the gutter and threw a sheet of water all over my left side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awshucks View Post
    Hi, I remember your introduction post and you being from Killeen. Just out of curiosity which trail system did this occur at? The mountain biking community is made up of people and unfortunately as we all know some people can be real douches. If someone who is a douche starts mountain biking they won't stop being a douche. Usually. Anyway, I'm really sad to hear one of your first times out happened like that. I assure you the people in that meetup I posted to you would never treat you that way if you are needing any reassurance or a motivation boost. Keep at it! I personally have never ran into extreme rudeness like that but on the occasion you'll get the person who ignores you or is smug at the trail head, but f*ck em.

    To clarify, I reread your post and see you actually weren't riding yet. Well man as an offer of solace to prove not all MTBers are bad people once you get better PM me and I can give you a nice beginners tour of Dana Peak. Maybe knock out a couple miles till you call it quits, so let me know.
    Oddly enough it was at Dana Peak. I will definitely hit you up once I'm up and going. I get my boot off Tuesday so I plan some light riding Thursday or Friday of next week. Mainly just testing my ankle out.

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    Whew! I started reading this thinking the obvious, and then got sucked into the plummet from obesity to roadie hate to pick-up rage to... what? What's next?!? Rolling coal???

    Good on you OP, have at it, forget the hate and ride off the extra pounds. You will be much better for a great ride in the outdoors anyway, and if anyone else has anything to 'say' to you, smile and ride on...
    It's all Here. Now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    Whew! I started reading this thinking the obvious, and then got sucked into the plummet from obesity to roadie hate to pick-up rage to... what? What's next?!? Rolling coal???

    Good on you OP, have at it, forget the hate and ride off the extra pounds. You will be much better for a great ride in the outdoors anyway, and if anyone else has anything to 'say' to you, smile and ride on...
    In hind-sight, it IS pretty funny (and silly) how threads get derailed.

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