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    Man... Ive had 15-20 ticks on me this spring. Only two bites but i guess they stick to my shorts and shoes or something cause we have found 5 in the mud room where i hang my gear in the house. Wifes freaking out, i guess ill keep my gear in garage.
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    It's also been a bad year in Central Georgia this year.

    I HATE ticks.
    How can anyone who's been riding as long as I have, be so slow???

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    Yup, bad here in VA too....Deer ticks and the fat ones.

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    VA is bad on the tick front the big ones are a nuisance but the deer ticks are what worry me. I keep a pair of tweezers in my camelback because I can't wait to get home to get them off.

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    Just found one under my spandex pants after bushwacking to find the trails, and this was in N. Jersey. I used to ride with shorts in Fl, and once found a tick, dead, in my inner thigh while showering a few weeks after. So check your ass & jewel zones with a mirror.

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    I let my wife check me for ticks. After that the real
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    I was thinking about ticks last week in the middle of my ride as I was riding in the pines... I have yet to actually check for any this year. Actually, I've only checked for ticks like 2x's in my whole life and I've ridden and been in the woods my whole life. I know they are out there but either I'm lucky or just not as prevalent here in upstate NY as they are elsewhere. I'm very sensitive and can feel pretty much anything on my body. I rarely get skeeter bites because I'm quick and super sensitive. I may have even swatted some off and just haven't realized it. I will probably be on the look out this year though. Time to start changing my ways.
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    Permethrin if you can find some works

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    ^ Go to your local vet, and ask for K9 Advantix. (kidding)
    For humans, I believe we can only use DEET.

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    I'm just finishing up a cycle of Amoxicillin meant to prevent Lyme disease after I had a deer tick. I've had lots of ticks before, but this was my first deer tick and as I wasn't sure how long it had been there (it was on my back), the doctor put me on antibiotics to be safe.

    Which is good, as I'm a long way from a place familiar with Lyme disease at the moment. Boy do I hate ticks.

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    I use deet spray but am going to look into permethrin

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    WNC is in the midst of a terrible tick season as well. They came earlier and in higher numbers than I ever remember. And we had a brutal winter. That usually keeps them in check. Strange.

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    Lots of Deet then after you ride scrub every inch of you with a washcloth and then towel off every inch scrubbing the whole time THEN check for ticks.

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    None for me this year in Indiana, and it's not like I haven't been "trying" to be found by ticks. Have done plenty of bushwacking in shorts against my better judgement doing trail work in the middle of rides and such. That's usually a recipe for at least one hitchhiker. But nada for me.

    I have at least been using repellent. Mostly some Ultrathon (DEET cream in a time-release format) this year but also sometimes Picaridin. I did not treat my clothes with Permethrin this year, either. I usually do, but never got around to it.

    We had a pretty rough winter with a lot of snow, but heavy snowpack usually insulates well enough to allow the little buggers to live through the winter. What kills them off is a deep freeze with little to no snowpack. Skeeters have been fairly mild so far, too.

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    Last Saturday I was on a trail building session along with NateHawk. I found two ticks on me when I got home, the first in a few years.

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    Funny Kronk. I must be tick repellent then.

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    Im using a heavy dose of 30% deet deep woods off from now on. Ive only had the browny red dog ticks. Luckily no deer ticks yet.
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    I found a tick latched on to me the first time ever this spring in Indiana.. pretty freaky.

    It was an American Dog Tick which I guess is better than a deer tick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephxiii View Post
    I found a tick latched on to me the first time ever this spring in Indiana.. pretty freaky.

    It was an American Dog Tick which I guess is better than a deer tick.

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    They apparently dont carry lyme disease. Only deer ticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    Funny Kronk. I must be tick repellent then.
    I must not have used enough DEET. I stayed for the afternoon session while you went to help the women's clinic ride, and I should have put more repellant on later in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nov0798 View Post
    What the???!

    Do they make those for parasitic ex-girlfriends? I coulda used one some years back.

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    100% DEET spray. (Actually 98.11%)

    Other people I know have found ticks and been bitten this year. Not me. (And those who were bitten or found ticks on their body/clothes did not use DEET spray.)

    I'll be sticking with DEET spray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kuhl View Post
    I let my wife check me for ticks. After that the real
    fun begins.
    Your wife checks me, as well. She's VERY thorough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peteer01 View Post
    100% DEET spray. (Actually 98.11%)

    Other people I know have found ticks and been bitten this year. Not me. (And those who were bitten or found ticks on their body/clothes did not use DEET spray.)

    I'll be sticking with DEET spray.
    I used to use the 100% stuff, but it tended to melt my socks and make the paint peel off the bike. The 30% seems to work just as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanau View Post
    Permethrin if you can find some works
    This is the only thing that works for me in MA. The ticks are so bad here you can even get them while ice fishing!
    Just use permethrin on your riding clothes and gear (pack and pads) and it'll last for a few months. I sweat a lot so I reapply every five or six weeks.
    Just don't get it on your skin and let your clothes dry after te application before using them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock View Post
    I used to use the 100% stuff, but it tended to melt my socks and make the paint peel off the bike. The 30% seems to work just as well.
    Any concentration beyond 30% is no more effective. 30% seems to be the optimal level. 100% stuff tends to last longer, but not when you compare to a time release formula. Ultrathon has been working well for me. The cream eliminates overspray issues, so you don't melt your gear and clothes. I use Picaridin spray on gear and clothing for skeeters, and most seasons use a Permethrin soak on most of my stuff. I get more bug bites grilling in my backyard than I do biking in the woods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    Any concentration beyond 30% is no more effective. 30% seems to be the optimal level. 100% stuff tends to last longer, but not when you compare to a time release formula. Ultrathon has been working well for me. The cream eliminates overspray issues, so you don't melt your gear and clothes. I use Picaridin spray on gear and clothing for skeeters, and most seasons use a Permethrin soak on most of my stuff. I get more bug bites grilling in my backyard than I do biking in the woods.
    Good info. I'll use my 100% for now, but when I run low, I may look at getting 30% spray or a cream.

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    SAw a tick last week crawling up my compression sock....just wiped it off.....had a full fresh load off DEET on.

    Rule of thumb around here is make sure they have to climb up the outside of the clothing so you can just brush them off.

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    I've had good luck using permethrin on my riding gear to keep ticks out of my clothes, but I've never found any repellent to be effective against ticks on bare skin - I've gotten them even with 100% DEET. Shaving like a roadie helps, they have nothing to grab on to and I almost never get ticks if I do that.
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    How about rubbing some baby mineral oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XCProphet View Post
    How about rubbing some baby mineral oil?
    what's that supposed to do other than make you feel greasy?

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    anyone have increased joint "popping" after tick bites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusBrody View Post
    I'm just finishing up a cycle of Amoxicillin meant to prevent Lyme disease after I had a deer tick. I've had lots of ticks before, but this was my first deer tick and as I wasn't sure how long it had been there (it was on my back), the doctor put me on antibiotics to be safe.

    Which is good, as I'm a long way from a place familiar with Lyme disease at the moment. Boy do I hate ticks.
    if you did Amoxicillin is that because you can't do doxy ? if you do get lyme amoxicillin can kill it but man....it is not as strong as doxy or ceftriaxone. be diligent and check for ticks !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikeadam View Post
    anyone have increased joint "popping" after tick bites?
    to answer your question: yes

    BUT what does this mean exactly ?

    I will substitue 'joint' with 'knee' because it is the most likely place lyme arthritis will manifest in a cyclist

    this will only occur of you get lyme arthritis for an extended duration where your knee goes through actual physiological changes, since the knee was swollen for so long, and you are months trying to correct it...causing new clicks or pops where none were before

    1 month no
    2 months maybe not
    10 months definitely yes (my experience)


    if a tick bites you and you get some knee click or pop, and did not go through severe pain, knee drainage, and antibiotic regimen there is no way a tick bite can result in a knee click (maybe I am wrong but I doubt it...it takes pretty severe swelling to change the ligature in a joint)

    fwiw: yes, but only after devastating, blown-up, lyme arthritis


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    Take this for what it is worth, but back in my infantry days, if we had an extended outings in wooded areas (most of Arkansas), we would take garlic tabs for about a week prior to going out.

    The first year I went, I didn't do this and had roughly 150 tick and chigger bites over my entire anemic body. It was miserable. The next year I took the tabs and came in the low teens as far as bite count. The great thing was that I smelled like garlic bread the whole time!

    I hear it helps with mosquitoes too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    They apparently dont carry lyme disease. Only deer ticks.
    ticks carry 4 or 5 diseases

    lyme is bad because when you get it, there might be no rash and you won't know, and it slowly sneaks in....very bad as it is easily undetected

    the other diseases you can get thankfully have severe early symptoms, so although you are going to suffer, it will be clearly evident you are sick

    yeah deer ticks are the only ones known to transmit lyme so far. deer ticks are the solid dark plate/light body, but they are also wicked small

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    ive spent a TON of time in the woods recently (most since i was a kid)and my back, shoulders, neck are sore, all my joints have increased popping/clicking(shoulders never used to) and im trying to decide weather im just having the "blues" (kinda normal for me) or if its time to spend some cash on a blood test

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    If I forgot to use any deet this year, I would be picking tick offs the entire ride. They have been terrible.
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    you can get permethrin from tractor supply in the livestock fly control area.

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    Is Permethrin safe? I see great reviews on amazon for it but it isn't available here in Canada because of safety reason. Although its not banned its not available. I'm a little worried about the safety of it but it really seems to work for people.

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    So is mine, but only after I check her first...

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    Your wife checks me, as well. She's VERY thorough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjaguar View Post
    I've had good luck using permethrin on my riding gear to keep ticks out of my clothes, but I've never found any repellent to be effective against ticks on bare skin - I've gotten them even with 100% DEET. Shaving like a roadie helps, they have nothing to grab on to and I almost never get ticks if I do that.
    100% DEET.... Really? I didn't think it would be sold in that high a concentration! I use Deep Woods Off and it's been treating me very well so far!!!


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    Had two crawling up my 30% Deet covered leg the other day. Curious about the safety of permrithin as well. Might give that a try.

    I have a friend that contracted Lyme and its completely destroyed her life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steezus View Post
    Had two crawling up my 30% Deet covered leg the other day. Curious about the safety of permrithin as well. Might give that a try.

    I have a friend that contracted Lyme and its completely destroyed her life.
    I'm gonna give it a try. I hear the small ones, the ones you can't see easily will grab onto at your feet or ankles? If thats true I plan on spraying my shoes and some soccer socks.

    Also anyone use Icaridin 20%? Is it more or less effective as deet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steezus View Post
    Had two crawling up my 30% Deet covered leg the other day. Curious about the safety of permrithin as well. Might give that a try.

    I have a friend that contracted Lyme and its completely destroyed her life.
    Quote Originally Posted by herder View Post
    I'm gonna give it a try. I hear the small ones, the ones you can't see easily will grab onto at your feet or ankles? If thats true I plan on spraying my shoes and some soccer socks.

    Also anyone use Icaridin 20%? Is it more or less effective as deet?
    Permethrin is NOT to be applied to your skin. It's nasty when wet, but fine when dry. When wet, it will even kill cats. Apply it to clothing ONLY. Allow to dry before wearing.

    I've been lazy this year and have not used Permethrin on my riding clothes. Bit me in the a$$ on a mtb trip last weekend. I was just tossing my dirty riding clothes into the back of the car afterwards, not really thinking. Ticks started crawling around in there and must have found my clean clothes. I was finding ticks for days after the trip was over, in spite of multiple tick checks throughout the trip. Thankfully they were just dog ticks, thankfully I was not riding in an area with a high prevalence of Lyme, and thankfully I caught the bastids early.

    Also, Permethrin isn't really much of a repellent. It's a straight up insecticide. It has some repellent properties. But it won't kill anything if they don't have contact with it. So say you treat your socks and your shorts and jersey with it. But a tick climbs onto your leg from some brush hanging over the trail. It can crawl around all it wants and even latch on, until it crawls over your clothes that have been treated.

    When was the last time the repellent was applied? What kind was it? Also, repellents are only marginally effective against ticks, anyway. It has to do with the way they find victims. Flying insects are pretty specific. Consider them like smart bombs. They have detection hardware to help them find their next meal, and depending on the mechanism, can work over quite a distance. Repellents scramble that detection hardware in one way or another. Ticks are like regular old dumb bombs. They grab onto vegetation and just reach out, looking to latch on to whatever passes by. They're pretty nonspecific. Like a dumb bomb - toss it out of an airplane and it hits what it hits. Once they latch on, they crawl around for quite a long time, trying to find a warm, protected place to bite and hang out for days so they can get a good meal. This is why contact insecticides work well against them. It's why wearing long pants/sleeves works well against them. High intensity fitness people like mountain bikers are good victims for ticks, since covering up with long pants/sleeves in the middle of a humid summer is pretty dangerous for us. So we need to treat what clothes we can, do frequent and thorough tick checks (partners are very important for this), and don't think that protecting ourselves against ticks can be a one-and-done thing.

    Picaridin-based repellents work well against mosquitoes (and IME, also against biting flies), but I have seen nothing published about their effectiveness against ticks. I wouldn't count on them.

    So, Permethrin is only one step. Repellents are just one step. You ALSO have to do tick checks.

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    Thanks Harold. good info.

    Does permethrin protect well against mosquitoes? Mosquitoes love me and they'll get me through my shorts and jersey. People say deet ruins synthetic. Also damn buggers get my head a lot. This is why I as asking about the Picaridin. This bottle does claim to work on ticks but don't know how well. I'll give it a shot
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    Some clothes come impregnated with permethrin and claim protection for awhile (until the permethrin gets washed out, at which time you'll have to reapply it) from mosquitoes and such. IME, permethrin offers some repellent benefits, but it's only marginal at best, as I mentioned above.

    I have had good results using DEET, picaridin, and oil of lemon eucalyptus based repellents. Oil of lemon eucalyptus is a personal favorite because of its combination of effectiveness and its pleasant smell. Picaridin #2, and DEET #3. Oil of lemon eucalyptus is easier to find as a cream for skin application than as a spray for your clothes, though.

    For best results, use permethrin on your clothes as a contact insecticide and primarily against ticks in combination with some other repellent whose primary function will be against the flying stuff.

    This year has been awful for all kinds of biting bugs because of the especially wet June. I used Ultrathon on my skin today, and it worked really well against mosquitoes. I was in a really buggy spot, and had not applied anything yet. I was getting swarmed. Pulled out the Ultrathon lotion and hit my legs, arms, ears, and neck. Suddenly the cloud began keeping its distance from me, with the occasional bug dive bombing my face. No bites afterwards.

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    Is permethrin toxic to cats after it dries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steezus View Post
    Is permethrin toxic to cats after it dries?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    No.
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    dangerously toxic to fish and highly toxic to cats: in cats it may induce hyperexcitability, tremors, seizures, and even death


    don't even think of using it where cats can bed down and lick it...goodbye cat if your cat is a licker.

    absolutely safe for most mammals (humans and dogs)

    but cats specifically, and just cats, extremely bad.
    This intolerance is due to a defect in glucuronosyltransferase, a common detoxification enzyme in other mammals (making it safe immediately upon skin penetration) cats, not so much

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    I'm feeling flu-like fatigue and muscle pain, checked on all 4 rides I've been on since I got my bike, nothing. No rash, no anything. Last ride was about... Maybe two or three weeks ago because work and rain. So I feel like I should probably go get blood work done.

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    You may just have a cold? I'm feeling like I have a cold myself, but go see a doctor. None of us are going to be qualified.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester7677 View Post
    You may just have a cold? I'm feeling like I have a cold myself, but go see a doctor. None of us are going to be qualified.


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    Lol I'm def going to see a doctor. I don't have a cough or congestion or anything, that's what's making me think I possibly missed something coming out of the trail.

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    I have a buddy that contracted a rare type of Babesia from ticks. He was put under some strong meds to clear it up. Pretty freaky sh1t
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biohazard74 View Post
    I have a buddy that contracted a rare type of Babesia from ticks. He was put under some strong meds to clear it up. Pretty freaky sh1t
    Man ticks are scarier than I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDeBonet View Post
    Man ticks are scarier than I thought.
    Ticks are terrifying. And late summer/fall IS lyme disease season.

    And FWIW, the absence of a bullseye rash means nothing. It doesn't appear in a substantial number of cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    Ticks are terrifying. And late summer/fall IS lyme disease season.

    And FWIW, the absence of a bullseye rash means nothing. It doesn't appear in a substantial number of cases.
    It has also been said that sometimes the bullseye rash doesn't even show up for several weeks. So sometimes when you finally see it, could already be ripping up your insides.

    Nasty little devils.

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    My paranoia is back. Where I live the ain't so bad but I still won't go in without protection. I think if it ever gets bad in my area I just might stop riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    Ticks are terrifying. And late summer/fall IS lyme disease season.

    And FWIW, the absence of a bullseye rash means nothing. It doesn't appear in a substantial number of cases.
    That's what's bothering me. However I contacted my doctor and they said there's an influx of flu like complaints. And I took some Aleve and I'm feeling better. So hopefully it's a fluke.

    Quote Originally Posted by TSpice View Post
    It has also been said that sometimes the bullseye rash doesn't even show up for several weeks. So sometimes when you finally see it, could already be ripping up your insides.

    Nasty little devils.
    What do you mean ripping up your insides that sounds painful

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    Lyme disease is NASTY. the spirochete bacterium burrows into your tissues and hides. the more time it has to hide, the more difficult it is to kill it.

    There IS some nasty crap going around lately. My wife and I area dealing with some of it. I've been sick for a few weeks now. She probably caught it from me, but it took almost 2 weeks for her to come down with it. Damn shame, because we're taking a mtb trip this weekend. I soooo hope that I feel well enough to do the epic ride I planned for Saturday. Today I actually feel pretty good, so I'm hopeful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    Lyme disease is NASTY. the spirochete bacterium burrows into your tissues and hides. the more time it has to hide, the more difficult it is to kill it.

    There IS some nasty crap going around lately. My wife and I area dealing with some of it. I've been sick for a few weeks now. She probably caught it from me, but it took almost 2 weeks for her to come down with it. Damn shame, because we're taking a mtb trip this weekend. I soooo hope that I feel well enough to do the epic ride I planned for Saturday. Today I actually feel pretty good, so I'm hopeful.
    Well that's shitty. Feel better man. Like I said I had flu like symptoms but I have no cough or congestion and that's why I was unsure. But I took some Aleve and in feeling better. Gonna get blood taken anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDeBonet View Post
    What do you mean ripping up your insides that sounds painful
    Obviously not physically ripping.

    Just go ahead and google Lyme Disease and its symptoms, lasting effects, and more gnarly repercussions if left unchecked.

    Every bug bite I get, I almost treat it as if its lyme. Take pictures of them to see if they are growing/shrinking, check swelling/itching, check color, etc. While I know its kind of tedious to do, its worth it in my opinion.

    Especially when some of them are seeming to last longer than a week, makes me nervous. (I have poor circulation to my legs due to multiple surgeries about a decade ago. Makes any injury, cut, scrape, or bug bite take forever to heal. Had one mosquito bite take almost 3 weeks, was kind of strange!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDeBonet View Post
    Well that's shitty. Feel better man. Like I said I had flu like symptoms but I have no cough or congestion and that's why I was unsure. But I took some Aleve and in feeling better. Gonna get blood taken anyway
    High Deer Tick population here.
    I laid my gloves on the ground to air tires.
    One of the bastids got in my glove and unbeknownst to me, deciced to live in my wrist...
    When I saw it, he'd been in there most of the day.

    Doctor said blood tests' are as unreliable as the "bulls-eye rash".
    Treated me with antibiotics...

    We do tick check daily. They are everywhere. Even in the short grass of the yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wizard View Post
    High Deer Tick population here.
    I laid my gloves on the ground to air tires.
    One of the bastids got in my glove and unbeknownst to me, deciced to live in my wrist...
    When I saw it, he'd been in there most of the day.

    Doctor said blood tests' are as unreliable as the "bulls-eye rash".
    Treated me with antibiotics...

    We do tick check daily. They are everywhere. Even in the short grass of the yard.

    Hate 'em!
    There's deer in the trail I go in so def deer ticks. But I never saw one on me physically so idk. But I'm getting checked for flu as we speak and they'll take blood too just in case

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDeBonet View Post
    Well that's shitty. Feel better man. Like I said I had flu like symptoms but I have no cough or congestion and that's why I was unsure. But I took some Aleve and in feeling better. Gonna get blood taken anyway
    I wouldn't be terribly concerned with general flu-like symptoms if they've lasted less than a week. SO MANY things have symptoms like that, that your doc may have no clue where to begin. I had a bout with "flu-like symptoms" that ended up developing into leukemia after a few weeks. Just goes to show how imprecise "flu-like symptoms" are.

    For me, there's been quite a bit of congestion. Not at first, but definitely lately. At least today, I'm clearing stuff out, and I'm relatively lightly medicated. I came down with this crap right at the end of a trip to Kansas City. Probably picked something up on the stupid airplane from sick passengers.

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    lyme is silent,
    it sets up and you can have it for months/years and not know till you get tested

    lyme is 100% curable,
    but if you don't cure it till later, it can do lasting damage you may not heal up from 100%, or may take a long time to heal up from

    lyme is 100% curable
    but you must not be allergic to the antibiotics. If you are, they find an antibiotic that you are not allergic to, but if you can't use these two [doxycycline or ceftriaxone], other antibiotics have a super hard time curing lyme. this category of victims have the worst time with it, and can be on antibiotics for very long times

    lyme itself it harmless,
    but it follows nerves and the spine and works it's way to the brain. it does no immediate direct harm, it is your body's immune response that is doing the damage to your joints and nerves as it fights but doesn't succeed. long term damage is the effect of the 'scorched earth' from your immune response. lyme does steal nutrients and takes up physical space, so on a cellular level there is competition, but otherwise it doesn't do a ton of harm by itself, which is why it is sneaky and you can have it but not know for a long long time.

    check for ticks with a mirror after every post-ride shower

    you even think you may have lyme, go get your antibody tests done

    if you have it immediately start a routine of antibiotics and kill it

    I have a nice story about lyme somewhere on these forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDeBonet View Post
    There's deer in the trail I go in so def deer ticks. But I never saw one on me physically so idk. But I'm getting checked for flu as we speak and they'll take blood too just in case
    just because there are deer doesn't mean there are deer ticks. There are MANY tick species spread out around the country, and each has its own geographic distribution. Each tick species also carries different diseases. Lyme is more prevalent in the northeast and great lakes region. Lyme is not super prevalent in my area (Indiana), but it is here.

    Mice are actually bigger determinants of tick populations. Yes, deer are important to ticks, but later in their life cycles. Early in their life cycles, mice are more important. And white-footed mice are especially important Lyme disease reservoirs. There are actually products on the market that allow you to treat wild rodents with insecticides to reduce tick populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    just because there are deer doesn't mean there are deer ticks. There are MANY tick species spread out around the country, and each has its own geographic distribution. Each tick species also carries different diseases. Lyme is more prevalent in the northeast and great lakes region. Lyme is not super prevalent in my area (Indiana), but it is here.

    Mice are actually bigger determinants of tick populations. Yes, deer are important to ticks, but later in their life cycles. Early in their life cycles, mice are more important. And white-footed mice are especially important Lyme disease reservoirs. There are actually products on the market that allow you to treat wild rodents with insecticides to reduce tick populations.

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    I'm in the northeast haha. Idk exactly how prevalent Lyme is here on Long Island but you never know. A tick may have been on me for a little bit and and I scratched it off or something. Better to be safe than sorry.

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    for lyme,

    you have time to get home take a shower and look for any ticks on you and pick them off. faster the better but 4 hours is not a problem with lyme

    For all the other things ticks carry that can make you sick
    you don't worry about it because:

    you'll catch (whatever) immediately when the tick bites (lyme takes hours before it can be transferred, though NO length of time is guaranteed)

    you'll get super sick super fast, nothing like lyme that hides, when you get hit with some other tick borne disease, you'll know it

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    5 straight days with a fever, today was the first without one, no word on results of blood test yet. Back to work tomorrow... Sad face.

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    So my blood work came back. "Abnormalities with Lyme" so I have to go in and see my doctor again to discuss it. So that's annoying because after I left the trail every time I never had a tick on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDeBonet View Post
    So my blood work came back. "Abnormalities with Lyme" so I have to go in and see my doctor again to discuss it. So that's annoying because after I left the trail every time I never had a tick on me.
    abnormalities with lyme WTF is that ?

    what kind of BS is that ? that is no diagnosis.

    discuss what ?

    You either have lyme antibodies or you don't.

    don't take any guess with this

    demand and obtain a prescription for 56 doxycycline hyclate 100's

    14 day regimen
    chow 2 in the morning (1 is the recommended doctor prescription, 2 is my recommendation)
    on an empty stomach, don't eat for three hours, chow 2 at night, same deal

    Do not take iron supplements, multivitamins, calcium supplements, antacids, or laxatives within 2 hours before or after taking doxycycline. These products can make doxycycline less effective.
    do not eat sunflower seeds the magnesium in them renders doxycycline almost useless. also no zinc

    14 days of doxycycline

    you may feel like crap (doxy is hard on the stomach) BUT you will nuke any lyme you have if it has been under 1 month since infection. If over 1 month, you do 6 weeks of this same regimen. yes it sucks, but being crippled sucks more

    yeah I directly know how lyme can just about kill you and I know how
    to correct it (antibiotics and a lot of them) and MOST doctors are morons with lyme.


    yes get a professional opinion but holy crap don't *****foot around with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    abnormalities with lyme WTF is that ?

    what kind of BS is that ? that is no diagnosis.

    discuss what ?

    You either have lyme antibodies or you don't.

    don't take any guess with this

    demand and obtain a prescription for 56 doxycycline hyclate 100's

    14 day regimen
    chow 2 in the morning (1 is the recommended doctor prescription, 2 is my recommendation)
    on an empty stomach, don't eat for three hours, chow 2 at night, same deal

    Do not take iron supplements, multivitamins, calcium supplements, antacids, or laxatives within 2 hours before or after taking doxycycline. These products can make doxycycline less effective.
    do not eat sunflower seeds the magnesium in them renders doxycycline almost useless. also no zinc

    14 days of doxycycline

    you may feel like crap (doxy is hard on the stomach) BUT you will nuke any lyme you have if it has been under 1 month since infection. If over 1 month, you do 6 weeks of this same regimen. yes it sucks, but being crippled sucks more

    yeah I directly know how lyme can just about kill you and I know how
    to correct it (antibiotics and a lot of them) and MOST doctors are morons with lyme.


    yes get a professional opinion but holy crap don't *****foot around with it
    Yeah idk wtf that means but then they called me again and said I don't have Lyme. So I'm going back Saturday anyway and I wanna see everything even though idk what I'm looking at because that's annoying. I'm currently on 2x10 days of ciproflocaxin 500mg and I'm just gonna finish it. But I'm getting a straight answer Saturday because I'm more annoyed that they just pulled this shit.

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    ^^little is known about cipro and lyme

    doxy is the gold standard, next is ceftriaxone

    anyhow...sounds like you'll be all set

    be careful with physical activity while on antibiotics such as weight lifting big, or going big ring up hills standing...wait two weeks after the last dose...all these antibiotics can lead to tendon ruptures ..so don't plan your max record efforts during these times you'll be all set. also crashing, can't trust your tendons they may be weakened

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    ^^little is known about cipro and lyme

    doxy is the gold standard, next is ceftriaxone

    anyhow...sounds like you'll be all set

    be careful with physical activity while on antibiotics such as weight lifting big, or going big ring up hills standing...wait two weeks after the last dose...all these antibiotics can lead to tendon ruptures ..so don't plan your max record efforts during these times you'll be all set. also crashing, can't trust your tendons they may be weakened
    True thanks a bunch!

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    Crap... after reading all of this, I'm only going to ride in my driveway.
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    Crap... after reading all of this, I'm only going to ride in my driveway.
    Lol.

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