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    Proposed law would make it illegal to ride a bike on the road in a national park

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    Bikeleague.org Blog » Blog Archive » Proposed law would force cyclists off roads on federal land and onto paths

    There is a link to a petition that can be signed if you are interested.

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    Full disclosure,

    (d) BICYCLE SAFETY.—The Secretary of the appropriate Federal land management agency shall prohibit the use of bicycles on each federally owned road that has a speed limit of 30 miles per hour or greater and an adjacent paved path for use by bicycles within 100 yards of the road.

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    Lame. MUPs are often crappy and terrifying. It's funny how long and melodramatic the names of bills are lately.
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    Get bikes off the pavement to give drivers more room to text while driving, very clever.

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    Wow. Really??
    Do bikes really cause THAT much hazard to be placed 100 yards off of a Nat. Forest path?
    Ruder than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterD View Post
    Wow. Really??
    Do bikes really cause THAT much hazard to be placed 100 yards off of a Nat. Forest path?
    If you ask the powers that be, we're the bad guys!
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    Well up here we didn't ban anything....but they have constructed some nice paths that allow bikes to get of the highways and have a really nice ride.

    Specifically Canmore to Banff

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    Well up here we didn't ban anything....but they have constructed some nice paths that allow bikes to get of the highways and have a really nice ride.

    Specifically Canmore to Banff
    It doesn't hurt for me to say this bu,t Canada always seems to be ahead of the thinking in the U.S.



    Maybe there should be a law to force all the terrible drivers off the road?

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    I just wrote my senator about this. Lots of NF land around here and some of it is mountain-bikeable. You can even connect multiple trails by riding on the FS roads that have speed limits higher than 30mph. I wonder what the feds want to do about the hikers and horses that travel those SAME roads to connect those SAME trails together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estral View Post
    It doesn't hurt for me to say this bu,t Canada always seems to be ahead of the thinking in the U.S.
    I know, huh? What would we do without the hockey puck, the tuk, and Terrance and Phillip?

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    Don't forget Howie Mandel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    I just wrote my senator about this. Lots of NF land around here and some of it is mountain-bikeable....
    The Administration already reversed the previous one and re-banned MTBs in National Forests. This new proposal will ban bikes on paved road in National Parks.

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    It's toque.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    Well up here we didn't ban anything....but they have constructed some nice paths that allow bikes to get of the highways and have a really nice ride.

    Specifically Canmore to Banff

    Jeff...... You mean Whistler and the North Shore right, as there is no good montain biking in Alberta as were trying to keep that a secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pursuiter View Post
    The Administration already reversed the previous one and re-banned MTBs in National Forests. This new proposal will ban bikes on paved road in National Parks.
    which law banned bikes in National Forests? there are 4 of them near me and not a single one prohibits mtb's on roads within them (currently) and only one lacks any mtb-legal trails.

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    It's an interpretation of the law outlawing mechanical transportation in National Forests/Wilderness Areas. Bush's Interior Admin ruled the law didn't include bikes and allowed them in. Many trails were built in the 8 year period. When the new Sierra Club aligned Admin replaced the Interior Dept Admin, the new managers re-banned MTBs. 100 of miles of trails were closed all over the USA.

    from Oct 2009
    Forest Service Drawing Line On Mountain Bikers in Potential Wilderness, National Park Service Agrees | National Parks Traveler

    This past Sunday's New York Times ran a story about Forest Service efforts to institute regulations that would ban mountain bikers from hundreds or even thousands of miles of trail that weave through lands that one day could be designated as official wilderness. While many mountain bike enthusiasts maintain that they should be able to enjoy their favored form of recreation on public lands, included those designated wilderness, land managers who oversee lands with wilderness characteristics are trying to prevent compromising those characteristics. And since officially designated wilderness is off-limits to mechanized travel -- even if that mode of transportation is a bike -- the forest managers are perhaps erring on the side of caution by moving to limit where mountain bikers can ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pursuiter View Post
    It's an interpretation of the law outlawing mechanical transportation in National Forests/Wilderness Areas. Bush's Interior Admin ruled the law didn't include bikes and allowed them in. Many trails were built in the 8 year period. When the new Sierra Club aligned Admin replaced the Interior Dept Admin, the new managers re-banned MTBs. 100 of miles of trails were closed all over the USA.

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    Forest Service Drawing Line On Mountain Bikers in Potential Wilderness, National Park Service Agrees | National Parks Traveler
    That only addresses "potential Wilderness areas" aka Wilderness Study Areas...not entire National Forests. That's a separate issue, and since it relates to an interpretation of a law in place since 1964, is going to be much more difficult to change.

    And the bill in the OP is not just National Parks, but ALL federal land management agencies. And since this bill addresses "roads with speed limits more than 30mph" it affects pretty much any bicyclist anywhere on federal land. The only roads I know that have speed limits less than 30mph in the forests near me are the roads that pass through the campgrounds at the rec areas.

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