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    New question here. Pedal decision time. xtr, eggbeater, atac, frogs...

    ok, ive been searching around for a few days and havent come up with anything too helpful in making a pedal decision. I'm considering the new xtr's, eggbeater 3's, time atac xs, and recently been looking into frogs.

    I've riden two cheapie spd's, and eggbeater 3's.

    money is no object, neither is durability. never had a problem with my eggbeaters.

    Here's what i'm looking for..

    1. Shimano's ease of engagement.. super easy to find the pedal and get in, even in hairy situations.. BUT.. i hate their release. it's inconsistent, and I've come unclipped sprinting and powering up climbs and going over tabletops and what not. I have however stayed clipped in falling and rolled my ankle. I've never had a good set of shimano's tho so I'm wondering if xtr's would fix my issues.

    2. Eggbeater's ease of release.. between the spd and the eggs, the eggs release WAY more natural and easily.. but i never came unclipped accidentally, not while sprinting, climbing or anything, and crashing or falling its as if i was never unclipped.. what i do not like however is trying to get clipped back in when things are hairy, very hard to find them and click in. I didn't ride them very long, so i could attribute it to lack of experience with them, but their small platform is pretty shaky to be standing on if you cant clip in before descending anything. Also, as far as float in concerned.. i like egg's float because it allows for more body english to be used without so many unclipping incidents.

    3. Time ATAC XS. I've been very interested in these pedals because from what i can see they appear to be a mix of spd's and eggbeater's. .maybe the best attributes of each pedal combined into one. Ive seen many posts recommending them, but no real comparisons with the eggbeaters. Basically all I'm really concerned with is, how easy do they release compared to eggbeaters. If they have that natural release and pop off as if you were never clipped in like eggbeaters I'm sold.

    4. Frogs.. dont know much about them, haven't researched them much.. but they seem pretty easy to get in and out of so i threw these in for good measure.. basically, how do they compare in entry to spd? and in release to eggbeaters?

    Also, as far as float in concerned.. i like egg's float because it allows for more body english to be used without so many unclipping incidents.

    So, if anyone has any direct experience with these.. what's your take on it? thanks in advance

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    xpedo, lighter and cheaper than xtr

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    I have been using Atacs for over 15 years, never had a problem getting out. Still have 2 pair of them over 10 years old. Eggbeaters are called Exploders around here, never seen a pedal break as much as those.

    FYI - the Atacs are not a cross of anything, they were around before Shimano or Crank Bros. pedals.

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    Love my time atac carbons. Wouldnt use anything else.

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    I have ridden Time on a borrowed bike for months and I really liked them. Durable, easy to get into, and I came out no problem when I went OTB.

    I now only use egg beater pedals. I use the Candy pedals because I can get into them easier, if it is hairy and I have to get taken off again I have the small platform to use (this is good in my races when I have to remount at the top of a muddy downhill trying to get clipped in), and I don't have a problem getting into these pedals, but I only use these pedals on my road and mtb. I have broken one set of eggs that were over 5 years old. If you bash them into a rock on your down stroke you can also bend them on a rock. A friend did this years ago. I have never done this and I accidentally plowed into one or two rocks this year. Maybe the aluminum is stronger now or I got lucky. The eggs are light, cheap, and easy to replace if necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegan_warrior View Post
    ok, ive been searching around for a few days and havent come up with anything too helpful in making a pedal decision. I'm considering the new xtr's, eggbeater 3's, time atac xs, and recently been looking into frogs.

    I've riden two cheapie spd's, and eggbeater 3's.

    money is no object, neither is durability. never had a problem with my eggbeaters.

    Here's what i'm looking for..

    1. Shimano's ease of engagement.. super easy to find the pedal and get in, even in hairy situations.. BUT.. i hate their release. it's inconsistent, and I've come unclipped sprinting and powering up climbs and going over tabletops and what not. I have however stayed clipped in falling and rolled my ankle. I've never had a good set of shimano's tho so I'm wondering if xtr's would fix my issues.

    2. Eggbeater's ease of release.. between the spd and the eggs, the eggs release WAY more natural and easily.. but i never came unclipped accidentally, not while sprinting, climbing or anything, and crashing or falling its as if i was never unclipped.. what i do not like however is trying to get clipped back in when things are hairy, very hard to find them and click in. I didn't ride them very long, so i could attribute it to lack of experience with them, but their small platform is pretty shaky to be standing on if you cant clip in before descending anything. Also, as far as float in concerned.. i like egg's float because it allows for more body english to be used without so many unclipping incidents.

    3. Time ATAC XS. I've been very interested in these pedals because from what i can see they appear to be a mix of spd's and eggbeater's. .maybe the best attributes of each pedal combined into one. Ive seen many posts recommending them, but no real comparisons with the eggbeaters. Basically all I'm really concerned with is, how easy do they release compared to eggbeaters. If they have that natural release and pop off as if you were never clipped in like eggbeaters I'm sold.

    4. Frogs.. dont know much about them, haven't researched them much.. but they seem pretty easy to get in and out of so i threw these in for good measure.. basically, how do they compare in entry to spd? and in release to eggbeaters?

    Also, as far as float in concerned.. i like egg's float because it allows for more body english to be used without so many unclipping incidents.

    So, if anyone has any direct experience with these.. what's your take on it? thanks in advance

    What cleats do you use with the shimano's? They have a multi release and a regular release.

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    If you like the eggs but want an easier pedal to use, look into candy 3's. Everything you already love just with easier entry and bit more surface to ride on when not clipped in.
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    I use standard Shimano cleats. My accidental releases are really a product of running them pretty loose because any tighter and I get stuck in them.

    Hadn't considered candy's. might be worth a shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegan_warrior View Post
    I use standard Shimano cleats. My accidental releases are really a product of running them pretty loose because any tighter and I get stuck in them.

    Hadn't considered candy's. might be worth a shot
    Are the cleats black or silver?

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    Silver. Like plain metal type silver.

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    those are the multi release, get the black ones
    they hold better

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    I have been on the same set of TIME ATAC carbons for 5 years with no problems. I have a set of TIME ATAC aluminum's that I ran prior for 8 years with no problems. They are collecting dust ready if needed for a spare. Only reason they were retired was for the upgrade to the carbons. I have heard numerous people switching to TIME ATACs from other brands but I have never heard of anyone switching away from TIME'S. They really are considered the best on the market. The only people that don't run them are those that haven't tried them. A blanket statement, yeah but for the most part correct.
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Nope I have the standard ones. They've worn out I guess they're not really black but they are dark. Looked at pics of both and I definitely have the standard ones.

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    I've got a set of atacs from over 15yrs ago. Still going strong. Swap the cleats from their intended sides and enjoy the increased float and comfort. As if they weren't awesome enough as it is.

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    For MTB I would stay away form carbon anything when it comes to pedals, one bad pedal strike and a carbon pedal might be destroyed.

    I have Shimano PD M540 pedals and they have worked well for me, I have Ultegra Carbons on my roadbike and like them for that application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    I have been on the same set of TIME ATAC carbons for 5 years with no problems. I have a set of TIME ATAC aluminum's that I ran prior for 8 years with no problems. They are collecting dust ready if needed for a spare. Only reason they were retired was for the upgrade to the carbons. I have heard numerous people switching to TIME ATACs from other brands but I have never heard of anyone switching away from TIME'S. They really are considered the best on the market. The only people that don't run them are those that haven't tried them. A blanket statement, yeah but for the most part correct.
    Yeah I'm really considering them. Lack of personal experience with them is keepong me from trying them which Is why I really just wanted to know how the release compares to eggbeater. But I'm more than likely going with the ATAC's

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJay74 View Post
    For MTB I would stay away form carbon anything when it comes to pedals, one bad pedal strike and a carbon pedal might be destroyed.

    I have Shimano PD M540 pedals and they have worked well for me, I have Ultegra Carbons on my roadbike and like them for that application.
    Wrong, with all due respect, I have been on TIME ATAC Carbon XS Titanium for six years. I constantly ride some bad ass rock gardens. With 6 years of numerous smacking them again boulders and they have never failed.
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    EBs as long as you are not constantly bashing them again rocks (all mtn riding). They are light and do engage/disengage well. Great XC pedal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegan_warrior View Post
    Silver. Like plain metal type silver.

    Those are multi release. I think they're better really, and safer, but the black ones keep you in more. You can't come out by pulling up or rolling you ankle with the black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    I have been on the same set of TIME ATAC carbons for 5 years with no problems. I have a set of TIME ATAC aluminum's that I ran prior for 8 years with no problems. They are collecting dust ready if needed for a spare. Only reason they were retired was for the upgrade to the carbons. I have heard numerous people switching to TIME ATACs from other brands but I have never heard of anyone switching away from TIME'S. They really are considered the best on the market. The only people that don't run them are those that haven't tried them. A blanket statement, yeah but for the most part correct.
    I switched from time to shimano specifically because the aliums don't release easily and scared the crap out of me. SH-56 for me.

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    Go with Candys over Eggbeaters...now you have a small platform that you don't have with the EB's. The 3's are very nice with an alloy body, stainless spindles, and nice bearings.

    Time makes a great pedal too...similar in feel to Crank Bros but "stiffer" release IME.

    Frogs are weird, some love them but when I demo'd a pair they felt terrible. They are free float so there is no tension...feels like your shoe is on ice to me, no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aBicycle View Post
    I switched from time to shimano specifically because the aliums don't release easily and scared the crap out of me. SH-56 for me.
    The "old" TIME aluminum's had that problem of a hard release. The fix was simple, you go to Speed Goat and buy pre-shaved cleats. They fixed the problem and released like butter. Never a premature release and always predictable.
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Switched 3 bikes from TIME to EGGBEATERS

    That was 2009. The ATAC pedals have my vote. I never broke TIME. I have broken 2 Eggbeaters and Crankbrothers is awesome about replacement. Fast and free. Now I carry eggbeater in my Camelback just in case. Funny huh? I was on a shuttle at Downieville and a guy was saying " I want out of eggbeaters but Crankbrothers keeps replacing!". I find myself in the same boat. TIME is better. By the way, those TIME cleats are super expensive and that is why I got away from them. I will go TIME ATAC or XT next. Not XTR (read mtbr reviews of XTR)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Whisperer View Post
    Go with Candys over Eggbeaters...now you have a small platform that you don't have with the EB's. The 3's are very nice with an alloy body, stainless spindles, and nice bearings.

    Time makes a great pedal too...similar in feel to Crank Bros but "stiffer" release IME.

    Frogs are weird, some love them but when I demo'd a pair they felt terrible. They are free float so there is no tension...feels like your shoe is on ice to me, no thanks.
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    I switched from time to shimano specifically because the aliums don't release easily and scared the crap out of me. SH-56 for me.
    The "old" TIME aluminum's had that problem of a hard release. The fix was simple, you go to Speed Goat and buy pre-shaved cleats. They fixed the problem and released like butter. Never a premature release and always predictable. The "new" TIME has a float adjustment screw that totally adjusts your release preference. I also use the Speed Goat pre-shaved cleats on the new ones. I have never had an issue releasing when needed or a premature release with this combo. Awesome pedals TIME ATAC Carbon XS.
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Shimano 520s. I have thoroughly abused these pedals for over 2 years with no hitch at all. Not as sexy as Time or CB but they are bomb proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    The "old" TIME aluminum's had that problem of a hard release. The fix was simple, you go to Speed Goat and buy pre-shaved cleats. They fixed the problem and released like butter. Never a premature release and always predictable. The "new" TIME has a float adjustment screw that totally adjusts your release preference. I also use the Speed Goat pre-shaved cleats on the new ones. I have never had an issue releasing when needed or a premature release with this combo. Awesome pedals TIME ATAC Carbon XS.

    I guess I got them cheap for that very reason

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    I think I'm pretty much settled on candy's or atac xs. Really want to give ATAC's a try though.

    Anyone have trouble clipping into candy's? I hear they're a little harder than eggbeaters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aBicycle View Post
    I guess I got them cheap for that very reason
    Ha,ha possibly, but who knows. All I know is way back in 2000' when I first started on the "first generation" aluminum's they had that issue. But like I said it was and is a simple fix. Just buy the pre shaved cleats from Speed Goat, problem solved. But since that time the newer generation TIME have the adjustable float screw that gives you an option of release tension. This feature has been since 2006' and I have been riding the TIME Carbon XS for six years and I swear them to be bomb proof dependable,predictable pedals.
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegan_warrior View Post
    I think I'm pretty much settled on candy's or atac xs. Really want to give ATAC's a try though.

    Anyone have trouble clipping into candy's? I hear they're a little harder than eggbeaters?
    Only shoe interference would make the Candy harder...I've owned Eggbeaters, Candys, Acids, and Mallets...they all work the same.

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    Go with the Time pedals. I've been running them for over 10yrs, never had any issues, in any conditions on either the mtn or cross bike. The new cleat can be mounted in two ways, for an easier or harder release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantdude View Post
    Go with the Time pedals. I've been running them for over 10yrs, never had any issues, in any conditions on either the mtn or cross bike. The new cleat can be mounted in two ways, for an easier or harder release.
    I find it funny over 13 years of reading these forums. That TIME get rave reviews with never a complaint of failure or otherwise. Yet all other pedals mentioned have constant unhappy consumers. IMO if one was to do the research it's a no brainer. Dependable, user friendly and no bad reviews. TIME ATAC best design out there.
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Frogs

    Light, less dangerouse to your shins and I own two pairs that are over 10 years old and have had no further maintenance than greasing and replacing the cleats.

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    Each brand pedal comes down to individual preference and riding style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blurr View Post
    Each brand pedal comes down to individual preference and riding style.
    Exactly why I asked if anyone had direct experience with all 3. So I can get an idea of how times release and engage compared to spd and eggbeaters

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    So, I have had TIME, Eggbeaters, SPD. TIME hands down.

    Does anyone want to buy my 3 used sets of Eggbeaters so I can go back to TIME? J/K. So lets hear more from FROG owners that rode TIME. Any more FROG owners that were long time TIME or XT/XTR owners? This thread is good. Doh! I just hexed us.

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    ATAC's

    My wife and I both use them. Mine are so old I can't remember when I first got them. 15 or more years ago is likely and the original pedals still work fine. They have out lasted many bikes and never given me a single problem. They are very good at shedding mud if that is a concern.

    I started with SPD's. Once (only once) I had a problem getting out of them and I know plenty of people who use them and have no problems so I can not say anything negative about the product.

    Eggbeaters? I never used them but know a guy who broke his so what some say about them breaking does seem based in reality.

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    I have the xtr's and have never had one issue with them. I have the cleats that you remove from the side so no accidental coming unhooked. I have hit rocks and roots very hard and never released or damaged them and for me they are simple to click in and click out of.

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    I just switched from the Shimano SPDs to Time ROC ATAC S. The SPDs were ok but they would always release unexpectedly when taking corners hard or bunny hopping no matter what tension I used. I think this was due to the fact that the float in SPDs had a direct correlation with the tension adjustment. For me the biggest problem with the SPDs is unexpected pedal release.

    I chose the ROC ATAC S over the ATAC XS because I wanted a larger platform for my shoe to prevent hot spots and I wanted the original round steel bars instead of the cast bars on the XS. I have heard of premature wear with the cast bars that causes unwanted vertical movement between the shoe and pedal. I also wanted the extra lateral float in the ROC's. The ROC ATAC S still has the same tension adjustments as the XS. Also, the weight is really not that different the ATAC XS Carbon (325g/pair), ROC ATAC S (372g/pair), ATAC XS (330g/pair). If you really wanted a weight reduction you would have to go with the ATAC XS Titan Carbon's (279g/pair). I have also heard that the XS version can release if struck by a rock on the opposite side of the pedal because the mechanism is bound together on both sides. The ROC's have two separate mechanisms so this cannot happen.

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    Our family has been using Time ATAC pedals since the 1990s: best all round, including muddy trails, sprinting, or for XC jumps. We have six pairs. None have broken and all have been good to us. We have them on road bikes also. It's either Time ATACs or platform pedals for me.
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    Time sounds like where it's at then! I would go candy's for sake of familiarity but I only had eggbeaters for a few months so I never got to see what their durability is like.

    Ill be ordering a pair of atac xs carbon soon, thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoolie View Post
    Does anyone want to buy my 3 used sets of Eggbeaters so I can go back to TIME? J/K. So lets hear more from FROG owners that rode TIME. Any more FROG owners that were long time TIME or XT/XTR owners? This thread is good. Doh! I just hexed us.
    I used to ride XTR pedals, then I switched to Frogs. The reason I switched was I liked that they had more float. I would have to make multiple adjustments to my right cleat to get it aligned right. For some reason my right knee would get sore on rides. Wasn't a fit issue with the bike. Once I switched to Frogs I haven't had any issues. My feet align naturally.

    They are easy to maintain as well. Besides replacing the cleats every so often they designed them where you can easily re-grease the bearings as long as you have a grease gun. Just remove the screw and inject fresh grease until you have pushed out all the old/dirty grease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegan_warrior View Post
    Time sounds like where it's at then! I would go candy's for sake of familiarity but I only had eggbeaters for a few months so I never got to see what their durability is like.

    Ill be ordering a pair of atac xs carbon soon, thanks guys!
    Let us know what you think.

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    You asked about getting into candy pedals. I think they're easier to get into than regular eggs since you have the platform to guide your foot. That is only my opinion though or it could be that I'm just extremely familiar with Candy pedals considering that's all I use.
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Awesome good to know. So the Titan's worth the extra money? I only weigh about 140

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blk02 View Post
    I just switched from the Shimano SPDs to Time ROC ATAC S. The SPDs were ok but they would always release unexpectedly when taking corners hard or bunny hopping no matter what tension I used. I think this was due to the fact that the float in SPDs had a direct correlation with the tension adjustment. For me the biggest problem with the SPDs is unexpected pedal release.

    I chose the ROC ATAC S over the ATAC XS because I wanted a larger platform for my shoe to prevent hot spots and I wanted the original round steel bars instead of the cast bars on the XS. I have heard of premature wear with the cast bars that causes unwanted vertical movement between the shoe and pedal. I also wanted the extra lateral float in the ROC's. The ROC ATAC S still has the same tension adjustments as the XS. Also, the weight is really not that different the ATAC XS Carbon (325g/pair), ROC ATAC S (372g/pair), ATAC XS (330g/pair). If you really wanted a weight reduction you would have to go with the ATAC XS Titan Carbon's (279g/pair). I have also heard that the XS version can release if struck by a rock on the opposite side of the pedal because the mechanism is bound together on both sides. The ROC's have two separate mechanisms so this cannot happen.

    Well 5 Year's of smacking my ATAC XS Titan Carbon Titanium against numerous rocks and I have never had a release from hitting a rock. And the main design hasn't changed since I ran my ATAC aluminums for 8 years without this ever happening with them. So 13 years total of smacking these pedals against rocks with never one release. I don't know who told you that but it sounds like BS to me.
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    I just took off my XTR's and put them on my wife's bike and put some Forte Carves on my bike (long story). They feel just as good as the XTRs and weigh less. I would worry about durability but my riding buddy is 246 lbs, rides like a scalded ape on meth and has been on the same pedals for 3 years.

    Speedplay Zero for my road bike and I love them.

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    I have Look Quartz pedals. While not as popular as other pedals, I love them. A couple of guys I ride with have Look pedals as well and none of us would ride anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastapoop View Post
    I have Look Quartz pedals. While not as popular as other pedals, I love them. A couple of guys I ride with have Look pedals as well and none of us would ride anything else.
    I'm surprised they still make those and especially for a mountain bike. They had a good following back in the eighties with commuter road bikes. A strange design but whatever to each his own. I would like to see your face after trying one of today's more popular brand designs. Have you tried anything else?
    Quote Originally Posted by NDD View Post
    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    I'm surprised they still make those and especially for a mountain bike. They had a good following back in the eighties with commuter road bikes. A strange design but whatever to each his own. I would like to see your face after trying one of today's more popular brand designs. Have you tried anything else?
    The Quartz has only been available the last couple of years and it looks very similar to the Atac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinning Lizard View Post
    The Quartz has only been available the last couple of years and it looks very similar to the Atac.
    It looks like Look has discontinued the Quartz line and is replacing it with something called "S-Track"

    Stick with Times

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    This is why you should buy the Times. They work great but when I finally bent a rail on them it still worked perfectly. When sent in to rebuild it was $40 and they were returned within 1 week.
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