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    Only H2O in a Hydrapack?

    Is it best practice to only put water in a hydrapack? Is it a sin to put Gatorade mix in there?

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    The one problem is that anything with sugar in it will help the growth of icky stuff and hydration packs are harder to clean than bottles, especially the inside of the hose and nozzle/bite-valve.

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    Yeah, I've done it but you need to do a thorough cleaning right after you get home or else you're gonna end up with gunk in your pack fast. I only run water now just for the convenience of not having to clean it constantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3DollaBillz
    Is it best practice to only put water in a hydrapack? Is it a sin to put Gatorade mix in there?

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    I usually just use water as I'd imagine you have to be much more diligent with your cleaning if you're running sports drink. I'm not a big fan of Gatoraid but I've used Cytomax a few times when doing some longer rides. Nothing wrong with running sports drink, I'm just lazy and don't wanna' have to clean the bladder all the time and anyhow...I like water.

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    I used to put sports drink mix in my Camelback and just stored the bladder in the freezer to prevent unwanted growths. I finally decided it was more trouble than it was worth and went back to straight water. Plus, I have made enough boat payments for my dentist and don't need to be bathing my teeth in sugar for hours at a time.

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    I use energy drink mix but do as Moustache rider used to and freeze the bladder when I get home and have rinsed it out. Never had an issue and water tastes lousy from my bladder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count
    water tastes lousy from my bladder...
    That's because water from your bladder is called urine. On the plus side, it's sterile.
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    Okay, think I got it, Dont piss in the bladder, only out of it and clean up after every use if I use anything other than water. Thanks for the advice and the freezing thing. I will give that a try.
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    Urban legend...

    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob
    That's because water from your bladder is called urine. On the plus side, it's sterile.
    If urine were sterile, people wouldn't get bladder infections.

    No insult meant - the urine being sterile urban legend is just a peeve of mine.
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    i think i would only put water in there because anything else will make it sticky and hard to keep clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debaucherous
    If urine were sterile, people wouldn't get bladder infections.

    No insult meant - the urine being sterile urban legend is just a peeve of mine.
    Finds like this make it all worthwhile ... from http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/8719
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    Is it true that urine is sterile? What would happen if you drank it?

    Top answer out of 15:

    I will tell you what happened to me.

    My brother John was 4 years old
    I was 2 years older
    I wasn't that adventurous
    John was always bolder

    One day he climbed the outhouse
    While I remained at it's base
    When I looked up to check on him
    My brother pissed in my face

    This really happened and he did
    it into my mouth. Nasty tasting
    for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moustache rider
    I finally decided it was more trouble than it was worth and went back to straight water. Plus, I have made enough boat payments for my dentist and don't need to be bathing my teeth in sugar for hours at a time.
    great way to put it!!

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    When you are going on long rides, I would suggest trying a mild laxitive in your Camelbak

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    Nuun has no sugar, just electrolytes, think it was designed with hydropack use in mind.
    Don't know how it tastes, if it works, and if it will gunk up either of your bladders.
    What I do, is mix Cytomax or Gatorade a little strong, put it in a bottle and dilute with water from my Camelbak by alternating sips. That way if I forget to clean a bottle, it's no where near a PIA as cleaning a nasty bladder.
    I've also used 2 bladders, 1 3L and the smallest I could find (not sure of the size), the big one got water and the small got the concentrated mix, that is until it got really nasty once when I accidentally left it in the car over a summer weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surestick Malone
    The one problem is that anything with sugar in it will help the growth of icky stuff and hydration packs are harder to clean than bottles, especially the inside of the hose and nozzle/bite-valve.
    If you are using a HydraPak reservoir with the fold and slide closure you should have a very easy time cleaning the reservoir no matter what you fill it with.

    http://www.hydrapak.com/catalog/product2110.htm

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    16oz water bottle on a cage, mounted on the frame.. fill that with sugary junk and leave the camelbak with water.

    i like gatorade personally, but on a hot summer day if i had to guzzle 3 litres of gatorade during a ride id probably barf my guts out! some in a waterbottle is nice though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debaucherous
    If urine were sterile, people wouldn't get bladder infections.

    No insult meant - the urine being sterile urban legend is just a peeve of mine.
    Welllll thats kind of a nitpicky way of looking at it. It's nearly sterile almost all the time. Safe enough to drink in a survival situation if you ever got that desperate (yuck). Worst case scenario for sure though, like only do it if you are gonna die if you don't kind of scenario.
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    I put rum, gatorade, and red bull in mine. It worked out great for the party but I could never get the taste out.
    SS is like beer...its an acquired taste.

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    Vodka and gatorade FTW.

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    I always thought it would be a pain to clean out anyhting else .. Water I could just rinse, and rinse again. If I want to bring anything else I just put it in the pack..throw out the bottle when Im done riding or what not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debaucherous
    If urine were sterile, people wouldn't get bladder infections.

    No insult meant - the urine being sterile urban legend is just a peeve of mine.

    Urine is relatively sterile. UTIs come from foreign bacterium entering the urinary tract or bladder, not from the normal flora.

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    Out of laziness, only water in my camelbak. All other drinks go in a water bottle that I can clean in the dishwasher.

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    Sometimes I do a half Gatorade G2 and half water in the summer. I always clean it out after every ride no matter what so I have no problems. I do the same if I only have water in it. It takes a whole minute, I dont see what the big deal is.

    I cleaned my kids out after he left straight Gatorade in it for a week. Hydrogen Peroxide worked very well. Cleaned bladder, tube and bite.

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    I know I am pretty poor at cleaning out my pack. It tend to forget to get it out of my car for a day or 2 after I ride so nothing but water for me.

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    Only water for me and I keep it in the freezer as well.

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    Camelbak Elixir tablets.

    No sugar, just electrolytes, so no growing funk if you leave it unattended for a few days.

    Gatorade always had too much sugar and not enough salt for me in the summer. With the tablets, you choose how concentrated or dilute the mixture is, and the orange or lemon-lime flavors are great.

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    Jack Daniels. Why put anyhting else in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave54
    Jack Daniels. Why put anyhting else in it?
    I was gonna say Tanqueray and Tonic....but smashing the limes into the camel back is really hard to do. And, that big tree that always jumps right in front people is a real buzz-kill.....though a guy would probably end up making a great "Epic Fail" poster if someone gets a photo of that....
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    I just throw in a few forties of PBR. For those extra hard rides, I opt for Old English 800. I sure wish OE800 came in the 2 litre size...

    Interestingly, cleaning seems to be much easier and quicker after 100 oz of OE800.

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    1 can of Red Bull, 2 scoops of powdered Lime Gatorade, fill with ice, fill with water.

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    Drink mixes go into a bottle on the frame. Water goes in the camelbak. I don't want mold in there, and I don't want residual flavors screwing with me later.

    For the record, I like ****inade Hydralite (it tastes salty so it must be chased by water anyway).

    Urine is not appropriate to drink in a survival situation. It's full of waste products for a REASON. Those wastes mostly take the form of salts, and drinking too much salts without enough water will actually leach water from your body and kill you quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiefab
    Camelbak Elixir tablets.

    No sugar, just electrolytes, so no growing funk if you leave it unattended for a few days.

    Gatorade always had too much sugar and not enough salt for me in the summer. With the tablets, you choose how concentrated or dilute the mixture is, and the orange or lemon-lime flavors are great.
    X2.....but usually prefer Cytomax mixed four scoops to a full 3 liters (weak) and it only slightly flavors it later and been doing this for a long time...on really hot days I add 2 frame mounted bottles of kinda strong mix and straight water in my Camelbak to chase the strong mixed Cytomax or Camelbak Elixir tablets.

    Rinse the bladder good after the ride and store it in the freezer = no funk problems!
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    Bottled water only in the bladder

    Have you ever noticed how long bottled water can sit around? I still replace it before every ride.

    It cost a little, but zero growth, zero taste and zero maintenance.

    All sport drinks go into a sports bottle.
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    I use spring water in my camelbak bladder and gatorade in my water bottle that i keep in my cage
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred-da-trog
    Bottled water only in the bladder

    Have you ever noticed how long bottled water can sit around? I still replace it before every ride.

    It cost a little, but zero growth, zero taste and zero maintenance.

    All sport drinks go into a sports bottle.
    It's not like tap water goes off after sitting around in a glass either. And it doesn't come with the massive carbon footprint or ludicrous dollar value of water in a bottle.

    Man, those marketing guys really did us over in the 90s with the whole bottled water thing

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    Beer in a hydration pack does clean up pretty easy if done soon after the fun and with hot water. Once I let it sit for a couple of days before cleaning and it took bleach to get rid of the smell/taste of old beer, and then a ton of rinsing of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emtnate
    Urine is relatively sterile.
    "Relatively sterile" is like saying someone is "kinda pregnant" or a "little dead."

    Sterile is an all or nothing designation, it either is or isn't. Urine isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kafromet
    "Relatively sterile" is like saying someone is "kinda pregnant" or a "little dead."

    Sterile is an all or nothing designation, it either is or isn't. Urine isn't.
    There are shades of gray. It is possible to say something is closer to being sterile than not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kafromet
    "Relatively sterile" is like saying someone is "kinda pregnant" or a "little dead."

    Sterile is an all or nothing designation, it either is or isn't. Urine isn't.
    Urine is a very good antiseptic, after it has been boiled down.... learned that one in survival training, and thankfully I've never put it to practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiefab
    Camelbak Elixir tablets.

    No sugar, just electrolytes, so no growing funk if you leave it unattended for a few days.

    Gatorade always had too much sugar and not enough salt for me in the summer. With the tablets, you choose how concentrated or dilute the mixture is, and the orange or lemon-lime flavors are great.
    But that doesn't have what plants crave. If I was going to use anything, it would definatly be Brawndo, the Thirst Mutilator.... but for now I'll just stick with water....(like from the toilet?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kafromet
    "Relatively sterile" is like saying someone is "kinda pregnant" or a "little dead."

    Sterile is an all or nothing designation, it either is or isn't. Urine isn't.
    If you're going to be a pedant, at least get it right. We're all a "little dead" if you bother to actually think about what happens at the micro level.

    And in a medical context, sterility implies a lack of infectious organisms, not just living organisms. Do people get infections from drinking or playing in urine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble
    It's not like tap water goes off after sitting around in a glass either. And it doesn't come with the massive carbon footprint or ludicrous dollar value of water in a bottle.

    Man, those marketing guys really did us over in the 90s with the whole bottled water thing
    I totally agree with you about wasted money on bottled water.

    My tap water will have a light iodine smell/taste siting in a glass for a day and show some kind of growth sitting the vinyl tubing in a couple weeks.

    I'm interested in reverse osmosis/filter system. But at 68 cents a gallon, it's bottled water for now.
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    Depending on length of ride usually just 3L of water and 1 crystal light powder pack that is made for 12-16 oz of bottle water. That is just enough to give the water a little bit of flavour without it being overbearing. Otherwise, I will sometimes put a little NO2 Explode if I am dragging a little bit. Great pre workout drink before hitting the weights, but just a little tiny bit in the camelback works nicely.
    Beer or any alcohol drink in a camelpack, why take the chance in getting a DUI?

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    I use on of the Propel packets - no sugar to grow funk and adds a (weak) flavoring to the water - helpful on those 95 F days when gulping warm plain water doesn't help the already present nausea. Adds some electrolytes and doesn't have any colorings to stain the bladder (used to use Crystal Light, but some of them are heavily dyed - not so with Propel)

    Always rinse and dry after riding, and rinse through with a weak bleach solution about once a month (every 15 - 20 uses). Bladder is still going strong after 6 years of abuse.

    For long rides I carry along some granola bars or trail mix if I need additional energy - better than straight sugar via Gatorade.
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