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    One size too big?

    So my Frankenbike has a 19 inch frame. I usually ride a 17 inch frame. This bike has been kicking my arse on rides. Feels like a tank. Would that be from pedaling a size too big for me? I think I have the saddle height set correctly, when on the bike and my foot is in the 6 o'clock position there is a slight bend in the knee. Even short trips are tiring.
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    Sounds like you don't have the saddle properly adjusted for your height. And keep riding, it's normal to get your butt kicked when starting out.
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    Starting out? I've been riding a mountain bike for many years now.
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    Starting out in this new phase of riding after not having a bike for awhile. Keep putting on those miles.
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    You mean after not having a bike for a month or so? It shouldn't be this hard.
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    Feeling like the riding is kicking your ass means that you're actually working out and getting stronger. Kona, you're a big dude. That just means that it takes that much more work to get the bike moving. Combine that with the diabetes and I would be surprised if you weren't feeling beat-up.

    Keep in mind also that:
    A: Every company has a different way of measuring the seat-tube. Some do center-center. Some do center-top, etc.
    B: Seat-tube measurement isn't very helpful for sizing a bike. What matters is the reach from handlebar to seat when the seat is in the correct pedaling position.

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    I am 5 foot 7 inches. The seat to top tube on the bike measures 22 and a half inches. Fits like a glove. However the top tube is a bit too high, hurts to straddle the bike if you know what I mean.

    Oh - the bike has a sticker that says it is a 19 inch. However, from the center of the bottom bracket to the center of the seat tube/top junction measures 17 inches. All the way to the top of the seat tube it measures 19 inches.

    You are correct. With the diabetes I feel beat up even on days I don't ride. And it seems i gained some weight lately, I'm up to 285. Not too happy about that, even if they say the diabetes is under control.
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    it's normal to get your butt kicked when starting out.

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    Only takes 3-4 days off the bike for me to feel beat up and winded on the next ride. I'm 5'7" and can ride 19" bikes. I've fit up to 24" ETT comfortably. Helps that I grew up as a kid riding adult 26" dept store bikes, which were a bit big for me. If I started out on freestyle/BMX style bikes, things might have been a bit diff as far as comfortable fit goes.

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    Starting out? Do you mean the beginning of a ride? Like I said earlier, I have been mountain biking now for years. In fact, almost 20 years. This is one of a handful of bikes that just feels like I am pushing a concrete block when I ride it. Maybe it's me, maybe the bike weighs way too much. I haven't had it weighed. It looks light, feels heavy to ride.
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    One size too big?

    And here we go again.

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    Probably too big for 5'7".
    Since you have other bikes, ride another one after this one and compare immediately.
    Could also be wheels and fork. Weigh it.

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    I don't have any other bikes. Just this one.
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    OP - at 5'7" a 19" frame is way too big. I am the same size as you and made the same mistake....fit is EVERYTHING!!!!
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    I agree, fit is everything. Looks like I need to find me a 17 inch frame and switch my parts over. I am curious if a smaller frame would feel lighter. Thanks everyone!
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    Just ride it like you stole it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    I am 5 foot 7 inches. ...
    I am 5'7" and ride a 17" frame. 19 is probably too big, but that should just make the bike feel hard to handle. As for riding speed it really should be the same for climbs and flats, but you may suffer when you want get through the corners. If the bike feels slow when pedaling straight it is not due to the frame size, but other size issues.
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    Kona - can you shoot a couple of pictures of you on the bike while riding around? A quick video would be better. I agree fit is everything, but seat tube height is nearly meaningless in isolation. You might just need a different stem or some minor tweaks. The photos or videos would help us look at the fit.

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    Kona is a sock troll. God bless him.

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    One size too big?

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    Kona is a sock troll. God bless him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePAz View Post
    I am 5'7" and ride a 17" frame. 19 is probably too big, but that should just make the bike feel hard to handle. As for riding speed it really should be the same for climbs and flats, but you may suffer when you want get through the corners. If the bike feels slow when pedaling straight it is not due to the frame size, but other size issues.
    i agree. I too am the size height & weighing in at about 180 geared. I was on a 17" HT and built up a S GT fs frame. cockpit is slightly more tighter but new stem and bar fixed that problem. But the over feel of smaller frame feels a lot better. Like dragging less concrete behind the bike.
    So my Frankenbike has a 19 inch frame. I usually ride a 17 inch frame. This bike has been kicking my arse on rides. Feels like a tank.
    What's the time gap from the last time you were riding the 17 and now on the 19"? I took a few months off during the build and oh my oh my, i felt like i was hauling a whale behind me, even on the S frame.
    Also, some of my patients state that they feel beat up when they get back into a certain sport or make an adjustments, it's usually your body telling you to start slow. If after that period where you know it's not your body then it might then be your gear/bike. Riding a mile is better than no miles at all. The Body needs a break-in and adapt period with that particular gear your using.
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    Kona,

    Please don't take this the wrong way, but at 5'7" and 285 lbs, you have more room for improvement in your frame than the frame of the bike.

    I see guys on here paying a premium of thousands of dollars to shave a pound or two off their bike. At a cost/pound of reduction, focusing on your frame will provide the greatest rewards in my opinion.

    I dropped 65 lbs last summer and have put 30 back on this winter putting me at 230 lbs. I would like to drop another 20 to put me where I need to be. Imagine taking off a 60lbs pack off your bike and how much easier you could bike, regardless of frame size.
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    Slow Danger and mbmb65 - I didn't start this thread just to be insulted. If you have nothing positive to add please just move on.

    What's the time gap from the last time you were riding the 17 and now on the 19"?
    About a month.

    Please don't take this the wrong way, but at 5'7" and 285 lbs, you have more room for improvement in your frame than the frame of the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    Kona - can you shoot a couple of pictures of you on the bike while riding around? A quick video would be better. I agree fit is everything, but seat tube height is nearly meaningless in isolation. You might just need a different stem or some minor tweaks. The photos or videos would help us look at the fit.
    Also a longer kickstand and a smaller spoke protector may also help to compensate for too small of a frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    Slow Danger and mbmb65 - I didn't start this thread just to be insulted. If you have nothing positive to add please just move on.

    About a month.

    Yeah, it's my goal to lose some weight.
    You took about a month off. Ended on the 17" which is your regular go-to size and then started back on the 19" a new frame, new size. With no transition what so ever in between. It might be what the above have stated, the pedal height, seat post big frame(bike)etc etc and might just be too big a frame and in conjunction with just time off the pedal does reduce your momentum few weeks back...I bet if I jump on a med/large 17" frame now, i'd feel the same as you.
    I'd suggest if your dead set on the 19" take slow, listen to what your body is telling you. And basically your muscles have adjust to the new head angle, pedal rotations, TT length etc...
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    5'7", 285 lbs, and you think the frame is what's kicking your butt? Man oh man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    Slow Danger and mbmb65 - I didn't start this thread just to be insulted. If you have nothing positive to add please just move on.
    Oh, Kona. I've been positive and constructive with you in any number of your other threads. Lots of reasonable advice given. None taken. And now you think you're on the wrong bike again. So what? Until you can scrounge enough change from your sofa cushions to switch bikes, or you can trade your old Nintendo system for another wrong bike, you're stuck with your 19 inch frame and darn lucky to have it. Sock it up and ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    Slow Danger and mbmb65 - I didn't start this thread just to be insulted.
    You know, I seriously question this assertion. I think you do have some deep seated need for negative attention. If you didn't realize that you were going to get criticized by those who know your story with this thread then there's something seriously wrong with you.

    I've also noticed that you are quick to turn on those who have supported you.
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    Lots of reasonable advice given. None taken.
    Not true. I have taken your advice. Many times. And i thank you for it.

    I don't have a need for negative attention. I just don't like being called a sock puppet, troll, or moron. I didn't go out of my way in this thread to pick on others, so I don't think others should pick on me.

    I turn on those that help me? News to me. Only if they turn on me first.

    Back to topic. I will post pics of me on the bike later so everyone can see the fit.
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    One size too big?

    5'7 285- that's way more than one size too big
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    One size too big?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    Not true. I have taken your advice. Many times. And i thank you for it.

    I don't have a need for negative attention. I just don't like being called a sock puppet, troll, or moron. I didn't go out of my way in this thread to pick on others, so I don't think others should pick on me.

    I turn on those that help me? News to me. Only if they turn on me first.

    Back to topic. I will post pics of me on the bike later so everyone can see the fit.
    If you don't want the negative attention, don't come here with your idiocy and neediness. It's tiresome and old. Your a charity case that refuses to help himself, even as others have tried to help you. You're a whining, sniveling, entitled fella, constantly creating excuses and scenarios of why nothing is quite right. Or, your just a sock troll. Man up, toots.

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    Refues to help myself? Yeah, whatever. You don't even know the whole story. Others have tried to help me, and have been successful. I am NOT everything you called me. You choose to see those things in my postings, instead of seeing the positive side. As I said, you don't know the whole story. Very few people here do.

    I didn't start this thread to discuss my behavior.
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    This thread is your behavior, woo is me kind. You got a free bike and it was stolen, now you got a second free bike and now complaining that it is to big. The way you described the fit ( that when you are seated and the pedals horizontal to the ground you have a slight bend in the knee) seems to be fine. Your weight seems more likely to be what is killing you and yes 2 months off will hurt when getting back into it, unless you were doing other exercises in between.



    You always seem to be starting the look at me my life is crap thread. Almost every month you post about loosing your job, can't afford a new bike, my free bike that was given to me was stolen, my second free bike that was given to me is to big Grow up and learn life sucks some times and is not all peaches and cream. We have all have gone through hard times one time or another it is what you do to get out of it that makes you who you are. And you don't seem to want to get out of that funk, just want to complain about something.


    I know what it is like to loose a job and be broke (trust me I am still riding a 10 yr old dept store bike that is two sizes to small that I got off points) and still have no money to buy a new one. So suck it boychik and learn to stand on you own two feet.
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    You got a free bike and it was stolen, now you got a second free bike
    WRONG. The second bike was NOT free. First I had the Specialized Ground Control. I was talking with DJ about it, the problems I had with it, he started the donate to Kona thread. I got everything on this second bike myself except the drivetrain, given to me by Flyin_W, and a few little other parts given to me by others. The BULK of the bike I got for myself. So now you know.

    Your weight seems more likely to be what is killing you and yes 2 months off will hurt when getting back into it
    I was only off a bike for 3 weeks to a month.

    I wish people would read the history and know the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    I didn't start this thread to discuss my behavior.
    So what do you want to discuss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    WRONG. The second bike was NOT free. First I had the Specialized Ground Control. I was talking with DJ about it, the problems I had with it, he started the donate to Kona thread. I got everything on this second bike myself except the drivetrain, given to me by Flyin_W, and a few little other parts given to me by others. The BULK of the bike I got for myself. So now you know.

    I wish people would read the history and know the story.
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    So what do you want to discuss?
    Just the bike fit. I will post pictures later. You all can tell me if I have it dialed in correctly. If it is, I think it may be my weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    Just the bike fit. I will post pictures later. You all can tell me if I have it dialed in correctly. If it is, I think it may be my weight.
    We'll see in the pics, but my guess is the bike is probably a size too big for you. It's not rocket science. Normally, you'd ride a 17 inch, but your current bike is bigger. You're just riding on bike paths and sidewalks anyways. You don't claim that it's uncomfortable, just that it's a beast. Big deal. You should be wiped out after a ride. It's called exercise...or what non-socks do when bike riding.

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    One size too big?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    Just the bike fit. I will post pictures later. You all can tell me if I have it dialed in correctly. If it is, I think it may be my weight.
    You should have waited on the pictures before starting this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    He's also a complete moran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    I agree, fit is everything. Looks like I need to find me a 17 inch frame and switch my parts over. I am curious if a smaller frame would feel lighter. Thanks everyone!
    Aside from being lighter - the smaller, correctly-sized frame also feels much more nimble and totally controllable....thereby allowing you to ride LONGER....WIN!
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    Here is a photo I just took.

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    The bike looks like it fits. Ride it with pride.

    And are you sure you are only 5'7", your head is above the roof line
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    Whoa dude. That fits okay. Maybe you would like the bars to be a little closer to you with a rise if you like that upright position? Do you feel like you're on your tiptoes?

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    That bike is fine for christ's sake. Just ride it. Start easy and build up to longer distances. It's called fitness and right now at 285 lbs you are officially out of shape. Don't worry about the bike.
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    Sometime I feel like I am on my tip toes. Biggest issue I have is stand over height.

    Mookie - I ride often, my normal loop is around 5 to 7 miles. You can look at my Strava page.

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    One size too big?

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    There is nothing wrong with that fit that would lead to this thread or the discussion. Go get back on the bike and continue the ride.
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    There is nothing wrong with that fit that would lead to this thread or the discussion. Go get back on the bike and continue the ride.
    Thank you. I shall. Looking at riding in the morning. Thanks everyone for the advice, much appreciated.
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    You may need to lower it a few mm. It does look like you're stretching a tad to the pedal in that picture. I know you're not comfortable with that standover but it's actually fine. In the olden days, there were only road seatposts so top tubes were high and nobody got their junk in a mess. You just get smart about it and lean over when you need to mount, dismount, and stop. It's not ideal for gnarly mountain biking but you know what? That's a bit down the road and hopefully your life will straighten itself out and your situation will improve.

    In the meantime, you look fine and mostly: YOU WILL GET USED TO IT. As a woman into vintage mountain bikes, I've gotten used to high top tubes that are not sloping and I can't say I've ever had an issue with standover.

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    One size too big?

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    As a woman into vintage mountain bikes, I've gotten used to high top tubes that are not sloping and I can't say I've ever had an issue with standover.
    Is that sort of like a woman into vintage washing machines?
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