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    "Next" and "Mongoose" mountain bikes

    I saw a slew of these bikes at Wal Mart today (don't ask why I was there), and they just have ridiculous features for bikes costing $99. I highly doubt you could trust a full suspension mountain bike at a two-figure price point.. Can anybody comment on the quality of these bikes? They look... flashy, and... well, cool. I almost know they are complete garbage. I wonder if they would even be good for a few singletrack downhill rides or if they would just fall apart under the smallest amount of stress. I know the components are crap but what about the frames? Has anybody, out of curiousity, tried a $99 full suspension mountain bike?

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    this thread will end badly..

    please use the search as this has been covered (in depth) a million times...

    but the short of it is this:
    - for 'real' MTB'ing these brands will not hold up well.
    - for paved bike path/sidewalk they will work fine.

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    i went to Oleta about 6 months ago with 2 friends who showed up with a pair of "Next" FS bikes. They grew up riding BMX so they know how to ride a bike. Oleta is not particularly brutal on bikes. Within 30 minutes the rear derailleur snapped off and the crank bent. 20 minutes later the rear suspension of the other bike literally snapped, and the stem detached itself from the bike.

    hope that helps.

    and like i said relative to the photos I see on this forum, Oleta is NOT hard on bikes.

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    You get exactly what you pay $100.00 for, a $100.00 F/S bike. As far as trying one, no I have not felt the need to buy one. Logic tells me that when a decent rear shock for my Trance X costs about $300.00 that on a $100.00 F/S bike they cut some corners to meet the price point. Good luck.

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    I dont plan on getting one. I have a Giant MTB already, I just find it funny that they make these bikes with all these fancy "components" on them when in reality making a less flashy bike would be more benficial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpAgetttt View Post
    I dont plan on getting one. I have a Giant MTB already, I just find it funny that they make these bikes with all these fancy "components" on them when in reality making a less flashy bike would be more benficial.


    Flash is what sells it to the uninformed. Every industry is like this in one form or fashion. It is not unique to the cycling world.

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    Yeah that's why I see these bikes all over the place.

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    i have an old 90's mongoose back when it was a bikeshop brand. it is NOT my sole mtb, i just use it as a store cruiser.

    did you know NEXT has disc brakes now? scary!
    anyway, we were discussing how funny it would be to all grab a NEXT and take it out on our normal trails just to see what we could do with them. Reminds me of a "top gear" challenge. just beat the piss out of them to see what happens.

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    ....sometimes though, they have crappy bike builders too. could explain why people have stuff just randomly falling off

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    Funny how they call these bikes mountain bikes when they have stickers on them that say not intended for off road use.
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    If you're looking for a bike in that price range, buy used or go for a rigid bike.

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    of course as a kid the whole neighborhood rode cheap bikes. i had a pacific that costed maybe 170, which was more thn most of them at toys r us. i actually loved it. but i was 12, so i didnt know any better. but it fit me well and it was comfortable. i "mountain biked" in it for years, if you can call it that. i think it worked out fine because it was a rigid bike. it didnt have any fancy components to "go wrong". no suspension. Fast forward 15 years, and i started riding my local easy trails on a dept store schwinn. It did the job, it was comfy...but heavy. but i only rode it about 4 months until i got myself a 700 dollar bike (on sale for 360!) and i was like wow....DISC BRAKES ACTUALLY STOP!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    i have an old 90's mongoose back when it was a bikeshop brand. it is NOT my sole mtb, i just use it as a store cruiser.

    did you know NEXT has disc brakes now? scary!
    anyway, we were discussing how funny it would be to all grab a NEXT and take it out on our normal trails just to see what we could do with them. Reminds me of a "top gear" challenge. just beat the piss out of them to see what happens.
    Dirt Rag did a nice write up in that a few months ago. if I could find it I would give the linky
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    The mongoose deception is actually a decent bike for 200. The Next bikes are pretty much junk and I wouldn't take them off road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomerBrian View Post
    The mongoose deception is actually a decent bike for 200. The Next bikes are pretty much junk and I wouldn't take them off road.
    Should we all assume you ride a Mongoose Deception?

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    I repair these bikes all week long at the shop. Trust me, they're junk. Aside from poor quality parts and materials (off brand shifters and derailleurs often cannot be made to actually index correctly; flexy brake housing instead of shift housing, etc.), They are never assembled or adjusted correctly. They use freewheels instead of cassettes, which results in bent axles. Brakes are junk, and don't return consistently, The "shocks" are just springs with no damping.

    Please do not try to ride these off road. We had a customer use one for dirt jumping, and ended up with a catastrophic fork separation followed by reconstructive facial surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mullen119 View Post
    Should we all assume you ride a Mongoose Deception?
    I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomerBrian View Post
    I don't.



    Genesis, gotta be.

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    BSO(bicycle shaped object)=junk. Terrible products. I really wish they would just sell rigid bikes with decent components instead of trying sell bikes that look "cool". At the $200 price point, with big box buying power they could sell a functional safe bike if they wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    Genesis, gotta be.
    Lol...very good Sherlock. I do have their 29er. For 200 the bike is decent. They are definitely better than the Next bikes which I would not take off road. I have a couple of hundred miles of single track time on it and it is holding up fine. It is a matter of time before I have to replace the BB and cranks but I knew that going into it. I wanted to ride now and at the moment due to other financial obligations I couldn't afford the bike I wanted.

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    I wonder why department stores haven't been sued over the failures of bikes that result in injuries. On the flip side CostCo sells a decent bike and target has the Forge line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    I wonder why department stores haven't been sued over the failures of bikes that result in injuries. On the flip side CostCo sells a decent bike and target has the Forge line.


    They have, it takes some searching but there are a litany of lawsuits over bicycles in general, not just Dept. Store bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpAgetttt View Post
    I saw a slew of these bikes at Wal Mart today (don't ask why I was there), and they just have ridiculous features for bikes costing $99. I highly doubt you could trust a full suspension mountain bike at a two-figure price point.. Can anybody comment on the quality of these bikes? They look... flashy, and... well, cool. I almost know they are complete garbage. I wonder if they would even be good for a few singletrack downhill rides or if they would just fall apart under the smallest amount of stress. I know the components are crap but what about the frames? Has anybody, out of curiousity, tried a $99 full suspension mountain bike?
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    Gotta give respect to Dirt Rag for running that story. Surely MBA wouldn't even think about it.
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    I went through a tough financial spell back in the early 90's and my 1st wife and I wanted to ride bikes so we bought crappy Huffy MTBs. I was in between decent bikes at the time. We never did anything beyond street riding with them and we got a few years out of them and sold them. They were heavy and the components were terrible even compared to current dept store bikes but they served the purpose at the time. I've been on nice bike and crappy bikes and certainly prefer the nice bikes but at least I was riding. Riding crap still beats festering on the couch mastering the latest X-box 360 game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodandsteel View Post
    I repair these bikes all week long at the shop. Trust me, they're junk.

    Please do not try to ride these off road. We had a customer use one for dirt jumping, and ended up with a catastrophic fork separation followed by reconstructive facial surgery.
    Thank you for the warning. I was half joking with friends about buying one of these bikes and beating it to death jumping it and stuff but now it sounds like it's more likely to beat me to death than vice versa!

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    A coworker bought one of those bikes to commute to work (on sidewalks and bike lanes) and within a year he broke the frame in half. He went to a bike store for his next bike...

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    Spagette, you siad:
    (don't ask why I was there)
    there is nothing wrong with shopping at Walmart, UNLESS you are looking for quality bike. I heard someone say, "Everybody complains about Walmart except the consumer".
    Sorebuttbike said:
    I've been on nice bike and crappy bikes and certainly prefer the nice bikes but at least I was riding. Riding crap still beats festering on the couch mastering the latest X-box 360 game...
    Good statement.

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    Riding crap still beats festering on the couch mastering the latest X-box 360 game...
    Agreed.

    As I said earlier though the Costco Northwood bikes and target Forge bikes seem to be decent entry level bikes albeit coming from a department store.
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    We had beat the living snot out of Huffy Stalkers we got from the PX when I was stationed in Korea in the early 90's. Those were terrible bikes. Side pull steel caliper brakes, nothing was aluminum, they weighed a ton. We did eventually break them but they seemed to be more tough than the current cheapie bikes sound. They were fully rigid of course. When we did break them we just went and got another one.

    I think the new ones are more fragile because they are over complicated. I agree that they should be rigid or at least a suspension fork. I think rear suspension is just not possible to execute cheaply and safely and it encourages riding beyond the capabilities of that cheap bike despite the warning stickers. It also seems that final assembly is the biggest problem. I have seen who works at Wal-Mart, no way am I trusting even my most hated enemy on something assembled by these individuals.

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    Saw a 29er at walmart earlier that I swore had plastic rims. Could be wrong
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    Had a next and its what got me interested in real Mountain biking, as noted by chum they can get a person around light riding but there is simply no comparison on quality to any level with a "real" bike.
    Mine did get my ass around town for five years, I sold it to a guy who has been riding the piss out of it in town for over a year now as his to work commuting bike and loves it, go figure.
    As for components, everything works on them, barely, the initial setup friggin sucks and I took mine in and had it tuned at the local LBS, that helped but again, still not a real comparison.

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    Mongoose used to be a good name.

    I have a Tange steel rigid SS which I ride (IBOC Zero G) and a Looptail 7000 series aluminum that I'm ready to sell (IBOC Pro). I'd keep it, but it's too big a 20".

    They even had a nice Ti bike. I think Tomac rode Mongoose for a while, too.

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    i went to ***** to buy my 13 yr old son his first "real " mtb. not a good idea.after 2 trips back returning bikes that broke on their first trip to the trails,i ended up just asking for my money back and went to my lbs and bought him a giant boulder se.you get what you pay for for sure.

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    My lady friend bought a couple walgooses for herself and her son just the other day. I warned her not to. Then again, they will rarely ever ride the bikes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    Saw a 29er at walmart earlier that I swore had plastic rims. Could be wrong
    was it orange and white ? if so i saw it too and no i dont think it did. the one i saw was 200 bucks

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    i have seen alot of kids riding wal mart bmx bikes at the my local skatepark. its scary lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    Saw a 29er at walmart earlier that I swore had plastic rims. Could be wrong
    Did they have stickers saying "carbon-inspired"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nailtrail View Post
    i have seen alot of kids riding wal mart bmx bikes at the my local skatepark. its scary lol
    I have seen kids with type II diabetes, heart troubles, morbidly obese, no creativity, nothing going on. It's scary.

    Kids riding cheap BMX bikes = good.
    Kids turning into blobs = bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I have seen kids with type II diabetes, heart troubles, morbidly obese, no creativity, nothing going on. It's scary.

    Kids riding cheap BMX bikes = good.
    Kids turning into blobs = bad
    no i am all for them riding, its great seeing younger kids being active. i just wish there parents could afford safer bikes for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    did you know NEXT has disc brakes now? scary!
    anyway, we were discussing how funny it would be to all grab a NEXT and take it out on our normal trails just to see what we could do with them. Reminds me of a "top gear" challenge. just beat the piss out of them to see what happens.
    I heard Top Gear did something like this.

    They picked up some department store bikes and had a trials guy ride them. He destroyed them, mostly within minutes.

    I'd really like to see that episode, but haven't found it. So maybe it doesn't exist. It certainly seems plausible, though.
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    i love top gear lol

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    Not that its extremely relevant but as an old school Mongoose fan I have to state something. Back in the late 90's Mongoose bought out Huffy. At that point Mongoose used the huffy manufacturing plants to make sidewalk (walmart) bikes for mass production and sale. At the same time they also started manufacturing bike shop quality Huffy bicyles. So basically by your mongoose at walmart, get a huffy. Buy your huffy at a bike shop, get a mongoose.

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    Couple of years ago we were riding porcupine rim on our $6000 steeds when a group of high school kids on Nexts and Mongooses cut through our group wearing Jeans with water bottles in the cages..

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_owl View Post
    Couple of years ago we were riding porcupine rim on our $6000 steeds when a group of high school kids on Nexts and Mongooses cut through our group wearing Jeans with water bottles in the cages..
    At least they were riding instead of sitting on their asses playing warcraft or smoking dope lol. Everyone has to start somewhere.

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    Quite a few years ago I had a Gary Fisher Big Sur that cost about 900 give or take, and I rode it to work every day and was allowed to keep it inside at my work. One a fellow employee commented on how nice my bike was and asked how something like that costs, I told her about 900, and she about fell over backward. She told me that you could get the same thing at Wal-Mart for a 100 bucks, thats a waste of money she said, and just told her that I like to waste money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 918biker View Post
    Quite a few years ago I had a Gary Fisher Big Sur that cost about 900 give or take, and I rode it to work every day and was allowed to keep it inside at my work. One a fellow employee commented on how nice my bike was and asked how something like that costs, I told her about 900, and she about fell over backward. She told me that you could get the same thing at Wal-Mart for a 100 bucks, thats a waste of money she said, and just told her that I like to waste money.
    Good reply lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSlow35th View Post
    Not that its extremely relevant but as an old school Mongoose fan I have to state something. Back in the late 90's Mongoose bought out Huffy. At that point Mongoose used the huffy manufacturing plants to make sidewalk (walmart) bikes for mass production and sale. At the same time they also started manufacturing bike shop quality Huffy bicyles. So basically by your mongoose at walmart, get a huffy. Buy your huffy at a bike shop, get a mongoose.
    Are you sure about that? According to Wikipedia Mongoose was sold to Pacific in '01. No mention about Huffy. I know Huffy recently bought airborne and mongoose is owned by Dorel along with Schwinn,Pacific, Iron Horse, and Cannondale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSlow35th View Post
    Not that its extremely relevant but as an old school Mongoose fan I have to state something. Back in the late 90's Mongoose bought out Huffy. At that point Mongoose used the huffy manufacturing plants to make sidewalk (walmart) bikes for mass production and sale. At the same time they also started manufacturing bike shop quality Huffy bicyles. So basically by your mongoose at walmart, get a huffy. Buy your huffy at a bike shop, get a mongoose.
    mine is from the late nineties. i forget the name, but when i looked it up, it was about 400$ in its day. its also aluminum and not terribly heavy. but its rigid and honestly, i just cruise it around to stores when i'm shopping. i do lock it up, but i wouldnt risk any of my more pricy bikes to get stolen.

    i remember as a kid, being so excited to have the "Huffy White Heat" it was all over the commercials. i broke the brakes pretty early on. but my childhood Pacific was one of my favorite bikes. never had a problem. then again, i was 12!

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    Mongoose makes REALLY crappy bikes and they also make pretty nice ones. Go to their website at www.mongoose.com and check them out, you may see something you like. You get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    Are you sure about that? According to Wikipedia Mongoose was sold to Pacific in '01. No mention about Huffy. I know Huffy recently bought airborne and mongoose is owned by Dorel along with Schwinn,Pacific, Iron Horse, and Cannondale.


    I never bothered to look it up but thats what a representive at Dan's Comp told me when I was looking into buying a huffy bmx race bike. It may not have been a full on paperwork buyout but I know one of the huffy bikes shared a frame with a mongoose bike, they even had the same serial number on the bottom bracket. I personally havent ridden another mongoose except for my 1977 Mongoose Motomag.

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    Between Huffy/Mongoose/Schwinn/ buyout/sellout/Some companies own several brands/etc. I'm getting dizzy. Makes me wonder if some of the companies know what they own or if they know who owns them.
    P.S. Pacific comes in here somewhere. I ride a Roadmaster mountain bike?? which is owned by Pacific (Chinese) after AMF shut them down. Vely interesting, as the little German on Laugh-In used to say.

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    Roadmaster is owned by Dorel now as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorel_Industries
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    its kind of a shame. the old schwinn bikes are really cool. and like their headbadge
    i just love old bikes in general. my boyfriend's boss has a bunch of old bikes in his basment. some are from GT before they went cheaper. and there are old schwinns down there, and old skinny steel roadbikes. i swear, its like a bike porn shop! i just go down there and drool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_owl View Post
    Couple of years ago we were riding porcupine rim on our $6000 steeds when a group of high school kids on Nexts and Mongooses cut through our group wearing Jeans with water bottles in the cages..
    Oh my gosh, they had water bottles in the cages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSlow35th View Post
    Not that its extremely relevant but as an old school Mongoose fan I have to state something. Back in the late 90's Mongoose bought out Huffy. At that point Mongoose used the huffy manufacturing plants to make sidewalk (walmart) bikes for mass production and sale. At the same time they also started manufacturing bike shop quality Huffy bicyles. So basically by your mongoose at walmart, get a huffy. Buy your huffy at a bike shop, get a mongoose.
    I too was an old school Mongoose fan. I had a Decade Pro back in the early 90's. Chrome, spin rotor, burly cromo frame, 48 spoke aluminum rims. It was a beast. I abused the hell out of it and it just took it. I was the envy of every kid in the neighborhood. I mowed a lot of lawns for that one. My heart was broken when it was stolen.
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    Mongoose still makes some highend bikes complete with XO, Fox shocks and FSA carbon cranks. As someone else mentioned. Check out thier website.

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    my parents have 2 FS "NEXT" bikes for riding around at mostly paved RV parks and such. they enjoy them for what they are. they just need them to put around and just wanted something cheap.

    they are not something you buy to use as an actual off road bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    Funny how they call these bikes mountain bikes when they have stickers on them that say not intended for off road use.
    My words exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpAgetttt View Post
    I saw a slew of these bikes at Wal Mart today (don't ask why I was there), and they just have ridiculous features for bikes costing $99. I highly doubt you could trust a full suspension mountain bike at a two-figure price point.. Can anybody comment on the quality of these bikes? They look... flashy, and... well, cool. I almost know they are complete garbage. I wonder if they would even be good for a few singletrack downhill rides or if they would just fall apart under the smallest amount of stress. I know the components are crap but what about the frames? Has anybody, out of curiousity, tried a $99 full suspension mountain bike?
    I have one, yes they are sh*t. And hell no I can't trust it. But it gets me out riding and that's fine by me! Till I can replace the thing.

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    I consistently see Stanford University students riding these bikes without helmets ..
    I am like wtf you can pay 60k+ a year for private school , but can't bother to research a decent bike for $200 or wear a helmet to protect that investment in your brain ..

    but then again I see those same folks eating crap food too , come on peeps get your priorities straight .. safety and health first and then flashy colors, try to avoid arrogant disinterest in the things that support your livelihood

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    Quote Originally Posted by knutso View Post
    I consistently see Stanford University students riding these bikes without helmets ..
    I am like wtf you can pay 60k+ a year for private school , but can't bother to research a decent bike for $200 or wear a helmet to protect that investment in your brain ..

    but then again I see those same folks eating crap food too , come on peeps get your priorities straight .. safety and health first and then flashy colors, try to avoid arrogant disinterest in the things that support your livelihood
    maybe they spent all their money on school, bikes aren't everything dude, and yeah almost all college kids don't eat 5 star meals..

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    Besides that if I was cruising around campus I wouldnt wear a helmet either. I only wear my helmet when I have an accelerated chance of falling.

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    At least the Wal-Mart/big box store cheepo bikes are well…..inexpensive. They fulfill a need and get a lot of people outside on a bike who could never justify even paying $300 for a bike. The biggest problem I have with them is how poorly they are assembled.
    It is not like they are pulling a fast one on the unsuspecting Joe like Bose or those other “lifestyle” companies. Selling cheep stuff at ridiculous high prices

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotus78 View Post
    At least the Wal-Mart/big box store cheepo bikes are well…..inexpensive. They fulfill a need and get a lot of people outside on a bike who could never justify even paying $300 for a bike. The biggest problem I have with them is how poorly they are assembled.
    in the bikes defense its the sporting dept people that assemble them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_owl View Post
    Couple of years ago we were riding porcupine rim on our $6000 steeds when a group of high school kids on Nexts and Mongooses cut through our group wearing Jeans with water bottles in the cages..
    Owl, you win the snarky, elitist bs post of the day award. And don't even try to pretend that it could have sounded any other way. But that's usually how it goes with these threads. Congrats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluggo69 View Post
    i went to ***** to buy my 13 yr old son his first "real " mtb. not a good idea.after 2 trips back returning bikes that broke on their first trip to the trails,i ended up just asking for my money back and went to my lbs and bought him a giant boulder se.you get what you pay for for sure.
    I was lucky enough to buy my Ironhorse Maverick 4.2 at Dick's... I rode the bike hard for 3 years without issue. I mean I got the occassional flat and had to replace the derailleur hanger but I wasn't exactly gentile with the bike. Check the reviews for Bear Creek Pa...
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    I had no problem trusting the build quality of the bike...

    I still have the Ironhorse and is now my loaner for friends without bikes....
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    Quote Originally Posted by flatliner View Post
    Guess SRAM X4 line sucks now since you can get it at WalMart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomerBrian View Post
    Guess SRAM X4 line sucks now since you can get it at WalMart.
    Isn't the X4 line their "sucky" line, anyway, regardless if it is on wallmart bikes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by queevil View Post
    Owl, you win the snarky, elitist bs post of the day award. And don't even try to pretend that it could have sounded any other way. But that's usually how it goes with these threads. Congrats!
    I may be wrong but I thought he was giving props to the kids for being out there, crappy bikes and all. I guess it depends if they cut through his group going up or going down. Care to elaborate Owl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    Isn't the X4 line their "sucky" line, anyway, regardless if it is on wallmart bikes?
    It is low end but I see them hung on bikes twice that price at the LBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knutso View Post
    I consistently see Stanford University students riding these bikes without helmets ..
    I am like wtf you can pay 60k+ a year for private school , but can't bother to research a decent bike for $200 or wear a helmet to protect that investment in your brain ..

    but then again I see those same folks eating crap food too , come on peeps get your priorities straight .. safety and health first and then flashy colors, try to avoid arrogant disinterest in the things that support your livelihood
    Having gone through way too much college myself, the reason that everyone has cheap bikes is bikes are constantly stolen on college campuses by both shady students and the local tweeker population. On some campuses it's a matter of "when" not "if".

    The second reason is that students are transient. They want something that be ditched in some way or another without qualm if it doesn't fit when they move.

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    Isn't the X4 line their "sucky" line, anyway, regardless if it is on wallmart bikes?
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    Hey, I could simply buy one of those $100's bike and build them back with $3000 worth of components and then call them high end bikes

    But it's all about the frame. And those frame are not worth the time to fool around with. Get a nice bike at Dick's for $200 on sale and then you are on a better way.
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    I was never impressed with Dick's bikes. I've had my Forge Sawback for years with thousands of miles. Still going strong, by far this bike still surprises me and is the best bag for the buck in my view.

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    i saw a guy that took a next to a local ski resort here outside boise when they had the lift on for bikes. must have worked for him.

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    Well that guy is probably dead right now.

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    maybe lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197 View Post
    Gotta give respect to Dirt Rag for running that story. Surely MBA wouldn't even think about it.
    Actually about 10 years ago or so MBA ran a full "wrecking crew" test one of these types of bikes. I can't remember what it was or when exactly but they documented the poorly assembled aspect of the bike(backward fork , brake levers pointing to the sky, etc), the broken handlebar after riding, essentially what everyone is saying and believes about these bikes, they just haven't done one recently...I guess there are too many $10000 specialized bikes and tubular tire how to's to give glowing reviews about.
    Try this: HTFU

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    Edit: The post this was referencing is now gone, and it looks like im calling rockcrushroller a troll. Not the case.
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    Could the warning tag about "Not for offroad use" be a "liability " thing? In other words, "Ride offroad at your own risk, we're not responsible if you crash offroad".

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    I have a 2005 Mongoose that I purchased from a reputable bike shop. Mongoose sells essentially two lines of bicycles. "One is a line of discount bikes offered through mass-merchandisers like Wal-Mart, Toys "R" Us and Target. The other featured on their website, are higher-end models sold through specialty bicycle shops." You can get the full story if you search "Mongoose Bicycles" on Wikipedia.

    The problem is that most consumers don't know the difference. It sucks when people riding Wal-Mart bikes compare what they are riding to what I'm riding. But, I guess it doesn't matter really. At least they are riding. I do worry about their safety though.
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    Bikes at $99

    Good for kids or parents riding paths at park. not good for offroad of any kind. Tighten bolts before you ride.

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    I like my 'gooses ('geeses ?)

    Here's sub 22 lb Zero-G rigid Single Speed, and my Sub 24 lb all XTR NX 7.1 "Newman"

    Both ride wonderfully. The Newman is my race bike.

    Unfortunately, like Schwinn, the mighty have fallen......

    Yeah, the seat needs to be adjusted on the Newman
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    Great article by Dirt Rag.........the truth! I owned a couple of those bikes, and i had issues with them, my wife did too. We rode them mostly on paved trails.

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    I'll be the thorn in the bush... But I got started into mountain biking with a cheap mongoose maxim bike that I rode my local singletrack trail with. I rode it hard 2-3 times per week for about 4 months until I realized I loved the sport. Then I started upgrading my bikes. I ended up giving the bike away to someone who doesn't have a car and rides it to work every day. It's still going strong. Now, I do realize the major difference now between a good bike and a cheap one. But I said that to say this- It got me into the sport without having to spend a lot of money on something I may or may not like. Then I was able to buy some very nice bikes off Craigslist from people that did the opposite of me- bought expensive bikes and rode them once and realized they didn't like mountain biking...

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    Taken from the Mongoose site.

    2012 Slayton Comp

    All-New Mongoose Freedrive XC Frame 120mm travel with RockShox Ario 3.2 RL rear shock & Suntour Raidon X3 LO Suspension Fork
    SRAM 30-speed drivetrain with SRAM X5/Shimano Deore derailleurs & SRAM X5 shifters
    Avid Elixir 1 Hydraulic Disc Brakes

    *MSRP reflects US pricing and does not include freight & assembly and may vary by region

    * Unfortunately, Mongoose 2012 bikes are not available for purchase in the United States.

    For their asking price of $2k, I think that one could find a better equipped bike, for less. I could think of a few right off the top of my head.

    For $2k, I better be getting something better than X5 and basic Elixir brakes.

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    If their from the LBS they are the real deal some LBS's do still carry Mongooses Schwinn Gt's and DiamondBacks its always better to get them there they will cost way more than wally worlds but will last longer just ask my Ancient Ex 1993 xD

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    On the other side of things....

    I run Junk-Bikes-Ride-Again, a non-profit org. I just gotta say that yes we all hate the Chinese-Walmart-K-Mart-Target etc bikes. But....We all started somewhere. These 'cheap' bikes are the reason we got into biking. Yes our parents bought us our first bikes. And thinking that we would just get board with it and let it rust in the yard they bought us the cheapest ones they could find. But if you were like me, I always thought there was a better bike out there. Bicycle racing wouldnt be that big a deal if they had to ride our bikes. They must make a super fast bike somewhere...? And they do. But.. if it wasnt for the super cheap crap we all started with, would we have ever got into the high $ bikes of today ? I stopped riding bikes as soon as I could drive, cause I could afford a 66 Chevy truck, ($600) while working at Fry's. But kids of today...? Good luck. Do you remember your first bike...? The crazy freedom you felt..? The feeling your parents were going to stop you because they realized they made a mistake by letting you ride such a dangerous contraption ...? But you had the wind in your face and you wernt going to stop until they physically stop you. I still get that feeling today.Its great. So when I get donated a kids Walmart bike that weighs as much as my downhill bike, I think. I hope the kid that gets this will get the same feeling I have and be hooked. Hooked on the solitude that solo biking gives and will spread his passion to others. I'm not religious but there is a certain feeling from surfing and biking that makes me feel complete.I wish everyone to feel what I do.
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    If the bike comes with a sticker that says not for off-road use, then that pretty much sums it up

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    i have the same bike its a next 4.0x with duel shocks index shift 24 inch bike and i been rideng bikes all my life i had my next for two days and ride it 3 miles to work pushing the frame with four foot bunny hops. it handles well as i do about 50 mph as i make my way down an overpass the breaks are holding up well the frame is holding up great i put the bike threw a lot of stress i ride it like im mad at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joseph0139 View Post
    i have the same bike its a next 4.0x with duel shocks index shift 24 inch bike and i been rideng bikes all my life i had my next for two days and ride it 3 miles to work pushing the frame with four foot bunny hops. it handles well as i do about 50 mph as i make my way down an overpass the breaks are holding up well the frame is holding up great i put the bike threw a lot of stress i ride it like im mad at it.
    This guy looks like he knows his stuff. I often achieve speeds of ~40mph going uphill and bunny hop over pedestrians on my daily commute. The shocks are making it look badass too. Haven't ever broke a single thing or had any issue with my bikes.

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    How are bikes still that cheap, yet are able to get more useless parts on them, despite inflation, fuel cost increase, freight costs, etc.?

    I don't doubt that guy. I did similar feats on my old $200 Huffy. Could use a bit of clarification on the 4 ft bunny hops. I'm thinking a hop off an uneven sidewalk block, or off a lip of a curb maybe, or maybe 4 ft distance-wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    How are bikes still that cheap, yet are able to get more useless parts on them, despite inflation, fuel cost increase, freight costs, etc.?
    Economies of Scale. these bikes are in every walmart store i've stepped foot in. I'm betting that walmart receives entire containers of these bike on a monthly if not weekly basis.

    Not to bore anybody with logistic details but Walmart does receive containers directly from China at their DC's. This cuts down the cost by as much as 20% if not more depending on the products.

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    I will agree with anyone who said that these bikes are cheap because they are, well.... Cheap. I had one of these bikes a while back, and nothing about it made me want to ride on a mountain.
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