• 11-24-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Mystery bike ID hel needed
    Can anyone help me figure out what this bike?

    It looks like a custum build.....?









  • 11-24-2012
    AZ
    Any markings on the BB shell?
  • 11-24-2012
    shiggy
    The rear end is likely an AMP. The whole frame may be, too, though many small builders used the AMP rear.
  • 11-24-2012
    TiGeo
    Are we sure this isn't a Wal-Goose frame? Didn't some of the dept. store bikes come with the Amp-style suspension?
  • 11-24-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Thr rear suspension say Amp.
  • 11-24-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    It also has a Noleen fork.

    Heres another detail shot.

  • 11-24-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Rear derailour is a Sram X7
  • 11-24-2012
    dru
    The serial #s are on the head tube. That's weird in its own right.

    I say AMP for the back too.
  • 11-24-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dru View Post
    The serial #s are on the head tube. That's weird in its own right.

    I say AMP for the back too.

    Correct, the BB is bare.
  • 11-24-2012
    Pisgah
    I am with the AMP chorus, but I didn't know they ever made 1 1/8 headsets frames which I thought was the Mega-Air. When did AMP stop making bikes, I though it was before the 1 1/8 headset "relolution?"

    And the Mega-Air . . . light and one of the first to push 32mm. The chrome stantions wore quickly for me.
  • 11-24-2012
    Harold
    whatever it is, it looks like it hasn't been used in awhile (maybe a barn find), or at least not well taken care of. rusty vee post bolts and pad hardware, rusty rear QR, rusty hardware on craptastic plastic pedals.

    The way it's built suggests it was a quality build at one time, though. I haven't seen canti posts that were bolted on before. usually they're welded on. I'd say the curved top tube also suggests a better builder. This thing can't be newer than 2000, I'd say, and curved aluminum tubes were not common back then because it's not easy to do that.
  • 11-24-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dru View Post
    The serial #s are on the head tube. That's weird in its own right.

    I say AMP for the back too.

    Correct, the BB is bare.
  • 11-24-2012
    TiGeo
    What is odd to me is the v. low level rusty parts such as the brakes. The bolt on cable clips on the downtube are odd too. The rims look really cheap. Is that a Noleen shock on the rear? I still say Wal-Amp...I can feel it flexing through the picture ;)
  • 11-24-2012
    TiGeo
    Could it be a K2 Razorback?
  • 11-24-2012
    Harold
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    Could it be a K2 Razorback?

    that was the mass produced bike with this suspension design I was thinking of but could not recall the name. I've never seen one in person so I'm not sure if any of the small details match.
  • 11-24-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    Could it be a K2 Razorback?

    Close, but I don't think so.
  • 11-24-2012
    DIRTJUNKIE
    It is definitely "not" a K2 Razorback.
    But it is a 1999' Titus Racer x
    1999 titus racer x - Google Search
  • 11-24-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Could this thing be a Titus?
  • 11-24-2012
    AZ
    Doubtful.
  • 11-24-2012
    Harold
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    It is definitely "not" a K2 Razorback.
    But it is a 1999' Titus Racer x
    1999 titus racer x - Google Search

    Hmmm i don't see the racer-x
  • 11-24-2012
    DIRTJUNKIE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    Hmmm i don't see the racer-x

    What the links not working, it just worked for me. Click and once the black screen appears give it a minute to load.
  • 11-24-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Doesn't look like a Racer X to me.
  • 11-24-2012
    DIRTJUNKIE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drummerboy1975 View Post
    Doesn't look like a Racer X to me.

    Yeah you guys are right it's not. My brain can usually pick these old rides out. There were a number of knock offs with this basic frame design but for some reason they have escaped my memory. Time for some Ginkgo. It most definitely is a 1998-1999' time frame.
  • 11-24-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    I'm trying to decide if I should rebuild it or not.
  • 11-24-2012
    DIRTJUNKIE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drummerboy1975 View Post
    I'm trying to decide if I should rebuild it or not.

    I would hold off until you figure out what you got. Although the components scream a good brand. The Noleen fork was concidered a good fork. They never made it main stream. Some companies used them to appear more high end than the norm. Most of the parts have been upgraded from the year of the frame.
  • 11-24-2012
    Jayem
    D8's bike?
  • 11-24-2012
    Kiwiplague
    Could be an AMP Research B3.
  • 11-25-2012
    TiGeo
    Ok, sorry, I didn't look close enough to notice it actually says AMP on the rear dropout..so my Wal-Amp comments are off..disregard..looks like a B3 to me.
  • 11-25-2012
    AZ
    1 Attachment(s)
    Look at it with one eye closed.
  • 11-25-2012
    TiGeo
    Dude...that is it or damn close. This also explains why it needed canti mounts clamped to the seat stays.
  • 11-25-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Close, but no.
  • 11-25-2012
    kingbozo
    Pic of a B3

  • 11-25-2012
    roadie scum
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drummerboy1975 View Post
    Close, but no.






    Sorry but that is as close a iteneration of yours as you are going to get. Email AMP w/ pics and ask them. You're welcome.
  • 11-25-2012
    DIRTJUNKIE
    Still not it, check out the gussets at the end of the toptube of the OP's. It is most definitely an AMP suspension design. But during this time frame there were several companies using that design.
  • 11-25-2012
    TiGeo
    That AMP is absolutely MONEY! Love the skinwall Smokes.
  • 11-25-2012
    DIRTJUNKIE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    That AMP is absolutely MONEY! Love the skinwall Smokes.

    Yeah definitely a cool looking vintage bike. But one of the worst suspension designs ever.
  • 11-25-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    As I posted earlier, it has an Amp swingarm, but what the frame is, thats still up in th air.
  • 11-25-2012
    DIRTJUNKIE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drummerboy1975 View Post
    As I posted earlier, it has an Amp swingarm, but what the frame is, thats still up in th air.

    Yeah that post was in reference to the the photo of the AMP. Your frame is definitely not an AMP but one of the several companies that used that suspension design. The mystery rolls on.
    Edit: Unless your frame is an AMP and some gussets were custom welded on to it. Just a thought, because those AMP frames were very prone to cracking.
  • 11-25-2012
    TiGeo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Yeah definitely a cool looking vintage bike. But one of the worst suspension designs ever.

    Oh man, I don't think so...the Horst Link is the basis for some of the designs still in use! The thing I remember about them is the flexiness of the rear end.
  • 11-25-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    On the one I have, the cable for the RD runs through the chain stay....
  • 11-25-2012
    GelatiCruiser
    Where did it come from or where did you find it? Any history on it at all? Might help narrow it down.
  • 11-25-2012
    Harold
    it looks like the 2000 B3 had the right curved TT and seat tube gusset, but can't tell about the HT gusset.

    AMP Research 2000 B-3 All Country XT Full Suspension Bike Reviews

    I don't think we'll find anything that looks right with the clamp on brake post mounts, because AMP was playing around with its 3 bolt disc brake

    this one is about the most similar pic I have found, but I don't know what year it was.



    BikePro.com /Buyer's Guide / Amp Frames- Bicycle Parts at discount prices / the Buyer's Guide / Bicycle Parts at their finest! / Professional Bicycle Source / Bike Pro

    <IMG src="http://www.plasmabunny.com/albums/nigel/amp_front_brake_3_bolt.jpg" width="500"></IMG>

    Note that the derailleur cable does run through the chainstay.



    http://forums.mtbr.com/vintage-retro...nt-479017.html

    sifting through google images, I can't find any verified 2000 models of this bike aside from the tiny mtbr thumbnail. A lot of other manufacturers who used this frame design (Mongoose, Litespeed) used square tubing in the rear triangle, presumably to reduce the flexiness. they also ran the rear derailleur cable down the seatstay.
  • 11-25-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Thanks Natehawk!!!
  • 11-25-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Could it be a 1999 B3 with some parts changed?



  • 11-26-2012
    Drummerboy1975
    Any more idea's???
  • 11-26-2012
    2fargon
  • 11-26-2012
    2fargon
    Bad with link, sorry. Google "2000 AMP Research B-3 Laguna Beach Classic"
  • 11-26-2012
    2fargon
    Having a hard time finding a photo that doesn't suck
  • 11-26-2012
    2fargon
    The bikepedia page for that bike shows a picture that looks very similar to me, though I'm not sure if the pic is actually of the B-3 Laguna Classic
  • 11-26-2012
    DIRTJUNKIE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2fargon View Post
    The bikepedia page for that bike shows a picture that looks very similar to me, though I'm not sure if the pic is actually of the B-3 Laguna Classic

    I wouldn't hold Bikepedia as being a bike Bible as some think. I found 3 mistakes on a description of one bike I recently looked up. If they can make 3 mistakes on one bike I can just imagine how many mistakes there are amongst thousands of bikes.