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    Missing Mountain Biker

    local missing rider.

    on sat morn, 6-21, while on a ride he crashed, then got separated from the group, and has been missing since then. there is a LOT of acreage and gnarly terrain surrounding the north shore trail, so if he suffered a head injury, became disoriented, and/or lost consciousness somewhere this could end up bad.

    your thoughts, prayers, vibes, energy, etc that Wes is found quickly would be most appreciated.

    thx.

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    I hate to see things like this... Hope they find him soon.

    But what the heck was he thinking not taking his cell phone with him?
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    can't say. perhaps since others in the group had phones with them he left his in his vehicle. i often do the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    can't say. perhaps since others in the group had phones with them he left his in his vehicle. i often do the same thing.
    I had a pretty bad MTB accident in 2010 and had to call in for rescue. Ever since then I dont go out without it. But to each his/her own.
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    Why are those searchers not on bikes?

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    Well that sucks.....

    My question is why did the group allow the rider to get so seperated from the rest of the group.

    Our group rides we regroup on a regular basis, just for these reasons. We don't allow the group to get so spread out that it takes that long if we have to backtrack to locate an injured/lost/mechanical.
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    I rode this trail on this same day day. I saw all the cops (I think it was in its infancy at this point) and wondered why. I'm assuming he was on the west side, the more technical side of the trail? If he was on the East side, it's so heavily traveled and lined with neighborhoods, I can't imagine getting lost over there. Even still, it's not like the west side has a network of trails, so I'm not sure why or how he could of wandered off into the woods and off the trail. I guess a head injury could do that to you, I don't know.

    A few weeks ago, I was on the west side of this very trail and re-aggravated a knee injury that I sustained in Arkansas the week before. I had to mostly limp out, riding slowly when I could, but the terrain on this loop is extremely rocky and unforgiving. It got dark on me and I had on RX sunglasses, with no lights, so I was starting to get pretty nervous. I can only imagine how this guy feels, if he's in fact still out there.

    The searchers might not have been on bikes because it's been pouring rain since Saturday night/Sunday morning.

    Positive vibes from this direction. Wish there was something I could do. Had I known at the time, I would have made a lap over there. I just assumed someones bike was stolen or had their car broken into.

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    Looked like some people were on bikes in the video. At this point he most likely isn't on a trail instead he is wandering in the woods. Either the head injury made him disoriented or he tired to short cut thru the woods to get back and got lost.

    Either way hope they find him.

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    Scary stuff. Let's hope for the best.
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    Also, some of that trail is pretty gnarly for an XC trail. Lots of tree overgrowth that can keep you from having line of sight with a rider, even just 20 yards behind/in front of you.

    I know there were several groups of volunteering MTBr's that rode the trail forwards and backwards looking for him during the first day of searching, but there's been rain since Saturday evening, so the search is probably being done mostly on foot at the moment.

    I'm still surprised that no one in the group stopped to give him a once over if his crash was as hard as they're making it sound. They mention in one of the articles that the riders in his group said he wasn't acting quite the same after tumbling, which should have been raising all kinds of red flags.

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    All my thoughts and prayers and good vibes out the missing biker.

    Not to derail (no pun intended) but just yesterday during a ride with 3 friends, one was separated from group (happens). He had cell as did we but coverage is spotty. His phone was low on charge to boot. I for one do not normally take my phone (shrug). He eventually made his way out on his own but it could have ended much differently. There are many things one can do (singularly and collectively) to prevent this as well as managing it when it does happen. Almost deserves a separate thread.
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    If the guy is still in the woods, he might have wandered off trail but I can't imagine him pushing his bike off trail through the brush. So at least his bike should be found trail side, unless he got out and rode somewhere else.

    This story makes me think about Liam Neeson's wife, who fell while skiing and thought she was fine. Went home and didn't get sick until a few hours after the fall, and ended up dying.

    I hope it is nothing like that, but head injuries are tricky business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    If the guy is still in the woods, he might have wandered off trail but I can't imagine him pushing his bike off trail through the brush. So at least his bike should be found trail side, unless he got out and rode somewhere else.

    This story makes me think about Liam Neeson's wife, who fell while skiing and thought she was fine. Went home and didn't get sick until a few hours after the fall, and ended up dying.

    I hope it is nothing like that, but head injuries are tricky business.
    they are indeed. not being there, i'm not sure how he got separated. it's easy to speculate or condemn since many of us would have "sandwiched" the rider or had him under observation as we left the trail. even more so after odd behavior subsequent to a crash. and more so yet for those of us in health care (especially those of us with an e.r./e.m.t. background).

    had a friend do a face plant out there on the same trails a couple of weeks ago and kept a very close eye on him for the rest of the ride. from what i understand it was a group of 4 that split into two groups of two. his riding partner somehow lost sight of him and then couldn't find him when he doubled back. then he panicked and rushed back to the parking lot thinking Wes had gone back to his vehicle. when he wasn't there they flagged down a cop and the search began.

    there are some parts of that area that are so thick that if you drug your bike even a few feet off the trail you'd be virtually invisible. if, not thinking clearly and trying to get out of the heat, he had done this it would be possible to pass within a couple of feet of him and not see him. the thick brush is what made the helicopter search fruitless.

    from what i understand it was also theorized that he may have tried to ride out and gotten lost due to a concussion, but were that the case he would have likely encountered someone by now and the authorities been notified. however, if this were the case and he left the road to seek shelter and then lost consciousness it could be very difficult to find him. possibly even more so than if it happened on the trail since he would be outside the designated search area.

    this is compounded by the scenario you mentioned with liam's wife. people with TBI don't always think clearly, and he may have made some decisions that led him off the trail to be safe (in his mind) and then lost consciousness. sadly, the more time passes without finding him the more likely such a scenario becomes. he's been missing for two full days and nights now, a significant fact given the texas heat and sudden flash flooding we experienced yesterday.

    i'm praying not only for his protection but for his wife and family as well. many, many lives are poised to be impacted here. and of course for the search team that they will have the guidance and stamina to find him quickly. the grim reality is that the more time passes the less likely the outcome will be positive.

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    "the thick brush is what made the helicopter search fruitless" just an assumption but don't most police choppers have infrared? He could have went to the lake to cool off. Can't believe they didn't find bike yet. Scary. Also are there caves there? God bless him and the rescuers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamwa View Post
    "the thick brush is what made the helicopter search fruitless" just an assumption but don't most police choppers have infrared? He could have went to the lake to cool off. Can't believe they didn't find bike yet. Scary. Also are there caves there? God bless him and the rescuers.
    certainly seems to be a reasonable assumption. especially on the state trooper copter that was out there. news reports stated the DPS said they called off the air search because the thick canopy of trees made spotting anything challenging. i'd assume that means both visual and infrared, but that's merely an assumption. they had canines on the scene almost immediately with no luck either.

    very odd that no trace of him has been found. no bike, helmet, sunglasses, water bottle, nada. it's like he vanished into thin air.
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    Unfortunately they located the body of the missing mountain biker. My prayers go out to his family.

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    Unfortunately they located the body of the missing mountain biker. My prayers go out to his family.
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    sad indeed. found him in an area that had been previously searched. linky

    he leaves behind a wife, 2 kids under 6, as well as other friends and family.

    my prayers go out to all.
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    I doubt any of us ever consider the possibility of dying when we are heading out for a ride... I know that's the furthest thing from my mind. Such a tragedy.
    When I first heard the report on the news, I did not know that a crash was involved earlier on, so I was left wondering if it was an accident or homicide or??? I don't wish death on anyone, but I can deal with an accident doing something you love much better than the other.

    Many prayers to his wife and children.

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    How the hell did the people riding with him not keep a closer eye on him knowing that he had a bad crash during the ride? This sucks and thoughts go out to his family, but at least a portion of the blame goes to the people riding with him.

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    Damn that is awful ... This is one of my fears when i'm riding alone.
    My thoughts go to his family.
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    Missing Mountain Biker

    This is a horrible tragedy. Let's leave the blaming and what shoulda coulda been done out of it.

    Ugh. Feel so bad for his riding buddies and family.

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    That's terrible. Thought and prayers to the family.


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    sad news indeed. What else can you say. Really feel for his family, how hard that must be.

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    So sorry to hear this. My condolences go out to his family. I'll pray they find the strength to get through this loss.

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    Sad to hear. Prayers to his family.
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    My kids would do fine without me now, and some days I think maybe momma, too.

    Saturday I fell off of my bike and barely saved myself from a nasty 40-foot fall by grabbing a sapling as I went over. Even so, I managed to wreck a helmet and a jersey, my bike's resale value is shot, and my arm hurts.

    The good news is my ride partners would hear nothing of "Im just fine". Quick check for possible concussion, shock, numbness/weakness after determining no immediate life-saving action required. Slow ride back to the trailhead and another quick examination. Arguments about the emergency room.
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    Local evening news story was run that said the man's body was found in or near a ravine about 20 feet off the trail, down a fairly steep embankment. Police think that the rider's prior crash could have resulted in a head injury that caused him to lose consciousness or otherwise black out while riding and possibly went straight through the underbrush to where he was found. Body is with coroner for autopsy to find out actual cause of death.

    Sad day to find we lost one of our own on the trail, when it could have been prevented.

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    that rider's buddies are probably going to need some therapy for this. I can totally see them beating themselves up over this.

    I saw a guy face plant off of a 3ft drop once. smashed his nose and DEFINITELY had a concussion after a short convo/eval. was not part of my group, but one of my buddies got his truck and we used one of the emergency access points on the trail system to walk him out and drive him to the ER. I helped one of his buddies get his bike out. his buddies were amazed at the first aid kit that I carry on my rides when I pulled it out to hand him a bunch of gauze for his bloody face. situations like that are WHY I carry that first aid kit on my rides.

    this guy wound up being one of the students in a class I was TA'ing that semester. I spoke to him at the next class day, and he didn't even remember that I was there.

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    We don't know that it could have been prevented. It sounds like the guy probably went unconscious minutes after the initial crash. We don't know if the initial crash killed him or if the crash in the ravine killed him. We don't know that he wouldn't have died even if his buddies were holding his hand the whole time. We don't know how bad the first crash was, or looked, or if it is even reasonable to assume that his buddies should have known it was serious. We don't know if paramedics or an ambulance could have saved him, even if there was one there as soon as humanly possible. There's a lot we don't know.

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    After accidents, a bunch of people will cast blame and say there was something that could have been done to prevent it and if they had only done that thing, the accident wouldn't have happened. While that might be true, the reason they say that is to pretend that THEY would NEVER make the same mistake, therefore they will never get hurt or die. It's just fear talking. The truth is, you can carry a cell phone, have a first aid kit, wear a helmet, etc., and still something will happen that you didn't expect or prepare for. That's called life. Get used to it.

    Also, what's all this prayer nonsense? What do you religious folk expect your imaginary friend in the sky to do? Before you found out the guy was dead, did you really think that your request to intervene would be honored? So if you pray right now for nobody to get hurt ever again, will that work? Does it ever work? Or is it just random chance? Are you guys mentally ill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    Also, what's all this prayer nonsense? What do you religious folk expect your imaginary friend in the sky to do? Before you found out the guy was dead, did you really think that your request to intervene would be honored? So if you pray right now for nobody to get hurt ever again, will that work? Does it ever work? Or is it just random chance? Are you guys mentally ill?
    Tell us how you really feel

    Actually the old "thoughts and prayers' line has always seemed odd to me as well. And I wonder how many people actually do pray, or if it is just something you are supposed to say?

    I think it is sufficient to say you feel bad for the family. Or "my condolences" if you can actually communicate with someone affected. But "my thoughts and prayers" is like pretending you are doing something proactive!
    Anyway, just my thoughts. Whatever anyone else likes to believe is no concern of mine.

    Switching gears. They said he had a helmet. I would really be interested to hear the coroners conclusions. I don't expect that a bike helmet can prevent all head trauma, but if he died of head trauma with a helmet on, it makes me wonder how bad this crash must have been, and how it must have appeared to the other riders.
    It would be interesting if a reporter would track down the other riders for an interview as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    Also, what's all this prayer nonsense? What do you religious folk expect your imaginary friend in the sky to do? Before you found out the guy was dead, did you really think that your request to intervene would be honored? So if you pray right now for nobody to get hurt ever again, will that work? Does it ever work? Or is it just random chance? Are you guys mentally ill?
    Way to be a dick. Those friends just lost their buddy. The wife lost her husband. The kids lost their dad. You must be a joy to be around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    Also, what's all this prayer nonsense? What do you religious folk expect your imaginary friend in the sky to do? Before you found out the guy was dead, did you really think that your request to intervene would be honored? So if you pray right now for nobody to get hurt ever again, will that work? Does it ever work? Or is it just random chance? Are you guys mentally ill?
    Sometimes a prayer is less about talking to a higher power and more about sympathising with a person whom is going through a difficult situation. It's about the desire for hope. It's about being human.

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    As a Christian I will say that many times the phrase "thoughts and prayers" is no more sincere than "hang in there" or "it'll all work out." And I have been guilty of throwing it out and then going about my day oblivious of what I had just said. Hopefully posting this will help me in not being so trite. As for the content of the prayers, for a believer, it really has to do as much with the eternal well being of an individual and his family as his/their current well being. I've been traveling on this planet going 65,000 mph for a lot of years and whether I'm mentally ill or not, I can't accept that the current state of the world is all I am living for and there is nothing else. I also can't accept a hope for the best... it'll all work out, as far as what happens after I die.

    As for his buddies, I really hope that something good will come out of this. So often there is a tragedy and out of the ashes, so to speak, people rise up and make a difference. Who knows, maybe someone will decide to come up with a good way to stay in touch with the other riders through a helmet radio or ??? Maybe groups will start to check in with each other more. Who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    We don't know that it could have been prevented. It sounds like the guy probably went unconscious minutes after the initial crash. We don't know if the initial crash killed him or if the crash in the ravine killed him. We don't know that he wouldn't have died even if his buddies were holding his hand the whole time. We don't know how bad the first crash was, or looked, or if it is even reasonable to assume that his buddies should have known it was serious. We don't know if paramedics or an ambulance could have saved him, even if there was one there as soon as humanly possible. There's a lot we don't know.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    After accidents, a bunch of people will cast blame and say there was something that could have been done to prevent it and if they had only done that thing, the accident wouldn't have happened. While that might be true, the reason they say that is to pretend that THEY would NEVER make the same mistake, therefore they will never get hurt or die. It's just fear talking. The truth is, you can carry a cell phone, have a first aid kit, wear a helmet, etc., and still something will happen that you didn't expect or prepare for. That's called life. Get used to it.
    We do know that his first crash shook him up enough that his riding pals said that he "wasn't acting quite right", when they first reported this here in the Dallas area. Anyone that has been through an hour of a first aid class (in which head injuries are usually covered first) would have known that kind of response to a crash was a bad sign of a potential head injury, and that alone should have ended the ride, and they should have taken him to the ER to get checked out. Yes, it's possible he had an inoperable injury that he may have died from anyways, but at least he would have been in doctor care, not lying in a ditch, so to speak.

    I'm not going to place blame on the rider, or his friends, for what happened. It's possible that none of them had any first aid training whatsoever, and wouldn't have been able to recognize his different manner after the crash as a warning sign. However, that doesn't mean the entire event couldn't have been prevented from at least one of them taking a first aid class that could have given them knowledge of that warning sign.

    I don't care who you are, what you do for a living, if you have legal history, are gay/straight, black/white/tan/purple, I highly advise everyone to take a day out of your schedule to learn first aid and field treatment. Knowing how to improvise splints, how to recognize concussions, and tie off a make-shift tourniquet can save someone's life in more situations than just a mountain bike crash.

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    Maybe this is what happened:

    Wesley the deceased was riding with 1 guy (lets call him John)

    John: "Hey Wes, lets let those guys ride ahead. They're too fast for me".
    Wes: "Ok."
    John: "How about we take a break over by this ravine?"
    Wes: "Ok."
    During break:
    John: "I found out you are having an affair with my wife you dirty ^$#@#$#!!!."

    A fight ensues. John picks up a rock and kills Wes with a blow to the head, and drags him to a brush covered spot, hoping that time and the rain will obscure the evidence of foul play.

    John rides out to the trail head where the other two friends who are waiting.

    Friends: "Where is Wes?"
    John: I don't know. He crashed after we left you, but I thought he was ok. But then I turned around and he wasn't there. I tried to find him with no luck. Now that I think about it, he was acting weird. Maybe he hit his head harder than I thought..."

    End scene 1.

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    wow dude... better to keep speculative, ignorant comments to yourself sometimes. hint: this would be one of those times, since some of you can't tell...

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    I feel terrible for the Rider, his family and friends.

    Also sad that other Mtnbikers can make such thoughtless comments showing lack of sympathy. WOW.... a young person lost his life, a wife is without her husband and children without a Dad. Life will never be the same for this family while we keep riding.

    Yes, heart braking for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    Also, what's all this prayer nonsense? What do you religious folk expect your imaginary friend in the sky to do? Before you found out the guy was dead, did you really think that your request to intervene would be honored? So if you pray right now for nobody to get hurt ever again, will that work? Does it ever work? Or is it just random chance? Are you guys mentally ill?
    Or maybe it's just a way of being sympathetic to another person and not a religious thing ? maybe ... And maybe you sound like a dickwad who likes to get attention ... maybe !
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    Thoughts and prayers to family and friends. So sad that some feel compelled to show sarcasm and joke about something so tragic and sad. There's a place and time for sarcasm and a thread about a fellow riders misfortune is not one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post

    Also, what's all this prayer nonsense? What do you religious folk expect your imaginary friend in the sky to do? Before you found out the guy was dead, did you really think that your request to intervene would be honored? So if you pray right now for nobody to get hurt ever again, will that work? Does it ever work? Or is it just random chance? Are you guys mentally ill?
    What a total Dickwad rant. Try worrying less about what others think, and you may start to become a happy balanced person....it is clear you are a long way fro there now with that massive complex you walk around with concerning what someone else thinks or doesn't think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    After accidents, a bunch of people will cast blame and say there was something that could have been done to prevent it and if they had only done that thing, the accident wouldn't have happened. While that might be true, the reason they say that is to pretend that THEY would NEVER make the same mistake, therefore they will never get hurt or die. It's just fear talking. The truth is, you can carry a cell phone, have a first aid kit, wear a helmet, etc., and still something will happen that you didn't expect or prepare for. That's called life. Get used to it.

    Also, what's all this prayer nonsense? What do you religious folk expect your imaginary friend in the sky to do? Before you found out the guy was dead, did you really think that your request to intervene would be honored? So if you pray right now for nobody to get hurt ever again, will that work? Does it ever work? Or is it just random chance? Are you guys mentally ill?
    You deserve to be negative rep'd into oblivion for that one.
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    Lesson hopefully learned;
    Don't ride away from someone who laid it down and "doesn't seem quite right."
    Thoughts and prayers...
    Gone are the days we stopped to decide,
    Where we should go,
    We just ride...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Wow. another terrible story. But this one is a little different:

    "It appears that he had started to backtrack on that trail and was carrying his mountain bike at the time that he went down,"

    What does that mean? Heart attack? Never mind. I don't want to encourage "speculative, ignorant comments"...

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    Whenever I go on a solo epic or a solo night scuba dive I always wonder how many days it might take to find my body. While I don't blame his buddies for the injuries or death I do blame them for the delay in finding Mr. Hixson's body.

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