I get most of my more expensive/important stuff online because of the variety and the cheaper price. I do however get all my cheap and not so important parts from my LBS in order to support them.
Originally Posted by xmrevo8x
I just bought a new bike at my LBS. I outfitted it mostly there and also some at another shop. Just trying to feed the local economy.
What bike did you get?
Originally Posted by Hawg
I got a semi-roadie Kona Dr. Dew!
Originally Posted by crewjones
It's for when I do not have the time to head for the dirt. I use it to just shoot out the front door for a quick 5-10 mile pavement ride. The hills are steep (as you know) in my neck of the woods so I don't need to ride far to get the lungs pumping.
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Nice, I've got a kona zing road bike. Great bike
Walmart makes a lot of profit, and brings affordable consumer goods to a place near you. But if that Walmart bike doesnt suit you, and its the only game around...
Its a numbers game. When the LBS is gone and the online sellers find they arent moving a whole lot of niche bikes the bean counters take over.
Dead horse thread.
I use my LBS (several different ones depending on the need) as well as online...like any other normal cyclist in 2014. Of course the LBS is more $$...they have a store to run. You are paying for convienence...nothing like getting something for a 10 min drive instead of waiting a few days...you pay a few more bucks but who cares? For me, I am not going to drive to the LBS only to have to order/wait for a part and then pay a premium for that privilege..online in that case if I know they don't carry it. Bikes...all LBS all day unless used. No issue with Bikes Direct if I wanted to go that route on the flip side.
Geologist by trade...bicycle mechanic (former) by the grace of God!
2012 Specialized Stumpy EVO 29 HT
I buy/order most of my stuff from my LBS because the team discount they give me is cheaper than I can get stuff online for. Really no reason to not shop at them, given that reason! Perks of being sponsored I suppose... Every once in awhile I buy something used off ebay, usually something that I can't get new anymore.
I like to support my local bike store, it's nice being able to ask someones opinion; the workers there don't seem to try and get me to buy more expensive solutions. Plus I get 10% off most parts. It's a few minutes away so that innertube I need is always there.
That being said, some items such as tyres cost far too much so I buy them online.
you nailed it for me--emergency tubes.
I am planning to buy a new bike soon and a big factor in my decision is whether I can buy through the internet--so far SantaCruz is the likely winner. I look forward to when I can buy directly from SantaCruz for a complete build. When that happens, a lot of others will follow suit and the LBS will likely go the way of the local hardware store.
I think there will always be a need for the LBS. A lot of riders left to their own devices will purchase the wrong size bike if their only choice is to purchase online without riding first. I am not sure how but I believe the LBS will have to adapt to be able to compete with direct to consumer companies because test rides and fittings along with service may not be able to sustain many LBS.
My personal opinion is that you should try to support your lbs first if they cant supply the part then look on line . My thinking with this is to keep my money as local as i can.
There are two bike shops in a 10 km radius of home. One i have found to be very helpful when i was chasing some help with a older ht bike that i was riding. The time spent helping me was probably worth more then the profit they made on a new seat that fixed the problem but the other shop just wanted to sell me a new bike . ymmv
I try to, but sometimes it's just stupid how some local shops are.
I recently sold a frame and needed a box to ship it in. One local shop wanted $25 for a bike box from a new build that they were going to throw away. I ended up getting one for nothing down the road.
SInce I will NEVER buy another complete bike, it's often easier to order online for obvious reasons.
2015 Kona JTS
2014 Giant Anthem 27.5
2013 DeVinci Leo SL
2009 SE Racing SoCal Flyer
2008 SE lil Ripper
2003 TiSport Gman
There are four full hardware stores (including big boxes with lots of hardware) in Woodland, CA, about 60K people. Only a few miles away, there are more hardware stores in Davis and West Sacramento, not to mention scads of them in Sacramento proper.
I'm a biker, a nut farmer (pistachios, not tea partiers), and a maker and there is not greater asset for a do it myself maker than the hardware store. They are alive and well here and I suspect everywhere. You'd be amazed what you can build with a little imagination and a good hardware store!
There are also at least 20 bike shops in the county, not surprising given Davis's reputation as a bicycle city, and I give three of them my business, but I buy what they don't have off the internet.
I'd like to do more for AN LBS, but -aside from one mechanic- at mine it doesn't really feel like the employees at mine have done anything to really earn the kind of devotion that some shops seem to inspire, and online stores employ people too.
Typically I get little things and stuff I'm willing to compromise on locally, and I just get items that I'm more specific about online where I know I'll be able to find them easily.
Most people at my shop are just salespeople. They push what they have and they sell a lot of stuff that wouldn't pass muster with more discerning shoppers. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, but it's not what I'm looking for. I wish they carried lots of high quality after-market parts or specialised in dealing for a couple respected manufacturers, but that just isn't the case.
I support my local independent LBS because they are very knowledgeable and great guys and gal anyway. The alternative big box stores and online retailers are making enough money.
Parts or things I can buy and wait on, I'll order online. Complete bikes I'll go to a LBS and buy. I just picked up a Santa Cruz Tallboy a few weeks ago, but outfitted it with items bought online. I'll buy in stock items that are on sale, and emergency tubes at the bike shop, but when it came to parts I learned that the LBS orders them and it takes a week to get them in stock, or I could order them using amazon prime and get them in 2 days with free shipping, or 1 day at a discounted rate.
Example from today, LBS said they could order me a Shimano 7 speed rear shifter for my kids bike to go from grip shift to trigger, $35 and be here next Thursday. Amazon Prime, same shifter, $15 and free 2 day shipping.
It always depends on what I need. Rubber, tubes, Hammer gel, common parts, I most always go to the LBS. But for clothing, bleed kits, suspension rebuild kits, fork oil, and anything not normally in stock at the LBS I will buy online. Shorts and gloves can be found at such great deals online that its hard to pass up.
2011 Trance x1
All good things in all good time
My local shop just can't cut it a lot of the time when I need stuff, especially if trying to do things on a budget. Also they could be doing a better job of being a bike shop.
For instance, I needed a set of clipless shoes, they only carried two brands; Specialized and Garneau, and there were only three mtb shoes to choose from. I bought the Specialized Tahoe shoes for about what it would cost to get them online, they're good and I like them, but more selection would have been nice, maybe I would have liked something else much better. I know it's hard for a little shop to stock a lot of shoes but they only had three models of mtb shoes. At least the employee who helped me was as helpful as she could be.
Another example is I needed a common basic tool a couple months ago, they didn't have it, they said they'd call me when they got one in with their next shipment. I never got a call. Last week I saw the tool on the rack. I had already gone to a different even smaller bike shop and they had the tool. If that smaller shop was closer I'd frequent them more often.
Most recent example is I bought a used frame on Ebay, nothing special, just an old hardtail frame that I could hang a bunch of parts bin stuff on to make a loaner/beater bike, it said it came with a headset but it only came with the cups. I figured the bike shop must have a big parts pile that might include bearings and an upper race, if I had a bike shop I'd save everything because you never know what stupid little item you'll need. Nope, apparently they just throw away everything they take off a bike. They didn't even have a 34mm headset, or any headset at all, said they could order one for $25. I went home and looked on Ebay and Deal Extreme, got a basic cheap VP-A71 for $7.30 on Deal Extreme. Of course now I need to wait for it to ship from HK, but I don't need that bike finished right away anyway. Obviously it's not a certainty that they'd have the bearings and race, but they were a common size that you'd think any shop that has been around a little while would likely have removed from a few bikes by now. Also if the bike shop had a 34mm headset in stock for $25 I might have bought it.
Long story short, unless your local shop is big, has the ability to order anything, and keeps a lot of merchandise and parts in stock, they just can't provide enough for customers who need more than the basics. Those of us who are more DIY and/or on a budget can get just what we want/need online much easier and save money. It's just the way it is, no local bike shop can complete unless they have the resources and sales to pour into large inventory and purchasing power. I try to visit the local shop when I can, but sometimes I still leave empty handed. So small shops need to operate smart and make sure they have enough items in stock and try to carry at least one of everything. They need to make sure they don't forget about a waiting customer, and they need to save parts that can still be used. You never know what stupid little part will save the day, or who might really appreciate getting a used part that gets them back on the road without having to spend a lot.
Last edited by DanHS; 08-22-2014 at 11:31 AM.
IF QBP can get 90% of what online cycling websites can get, then retail bike shop owners would benefit from price matching. If I were a bike shop owner, I would have IPADS or something available for customers to access and shop options online and work with the shop on pricing. Never will a retail shop have the inventory of on-line discount websites. Current and next generations are growing more and more tech oriented, and retail cycling shops are really endangered. I love my LBS and the folks who work there, but options are really limited.
Re: How many of ya'll still shop at your lbs?
I tried to buy a Trek Stache from my LBS but they had sold it by the time I went to pick it up and wouldn't make any effort to get one for me because it was "too late in the season." They did offer to sell me one a size too small and one level up for just $700 more than my budget though. I bought twice the bike used for the same money, then bought all my supplies online.
Riding 3.0 (third time I've been seriously involved in biking) for me involves doing ALL of my bike work myself, in the garage so the LBS may never really factor in again for me.
Ordering online isn't always cost effective for me, since I live in interior Alaska, even many "free shipping" offers don't apply, especially for smaller purchases. So buying from an LBS is usually my go-to. For more expensive items that are on sale online, sometimes its worth it to order, even with shipping costs included. Though lately I've been shopping from the LBS more often, since my wife and I both recently bought new bikes and had a great experience there.
So true. I tried yesterday to get a front set of xt brakes. QBP was 10% more than Jenson right now. There is no way a LBS can compete with that.
Originally Posted by robtre
Where the ones from Jenson a take off?
A lot of the great deals I have seen there were from bikes they bought on close out and strip to sell the parts individually.
Doesn't say take off. I think just close out of 2014 models. I have even tried to order thru Shimano and they are continually back ordered.
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