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    Funny talk with a non biker

    While talking with my girlfriends brother inlaw this weekend, I had mentioned that we were going to rent bikes for my gf and I. I told him what they were and that they were a lower end hybrid but very good for our ride and he was curious about what I had. I told him that i had a Trek and he said " wow Treks are expensive, they are like $300 right" I just kind of chuckled and said something like that. I have been trying to get him to start riding but he isn't very interested but I am a firm believer in if you are set up on the right bike, it makes the whole experience different. I proved that with my gf, she hated riding on her department store bike but the minute she test rode her bike, she loved it.

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    How true. Where I'm currently living, I am sometimes asked for recommendations on bikes but have to politely beg off. How can I explain that my bike shoes cost more then they are willing to pay for a bike at the local toy store?

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    Rev Bubba, that is the exact truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev Bubba View Post
    How true. Where I'm currently living, I am sometimes asked for recommendations on bikes but have to politely beg off. How can I explain that my bike shoes cost more then they are willing to pay for a bike at the local toy store?
    You start off with asking how much do they want to spend? Then more likely than not you refer them to craigslist. Bring them into the sport rather than exclude them because of inability/unwillingness to spend cubic dollars. If they stick with it they will come to their own conclusions on value versus dollar spent. Win all the way around.

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    That is actually my first method as there are a lot of good quality bikes on Craigslist in his area. I figure if he could pick up an older good bike for a $150 or $200 that would be a fantastic start. I told him that I would at least take a look at his whatever brand bike now and see if there is any way to help him out. Just one of those things that you want to push but not too hard just to get them on a healthier track.

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    It's hard to make someone interested in something. The people I have introduced to the sport have come to me. They were friends or family that saw that I did it and asked for my help. But it's kinda hard to tell someone who isn't interested hey, invest 1k in a sport you have no interest in.

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    We're talking people looking for beach cruisers who are perfectly happy to let their bike rust into oblivion over the winter months. They know my wife and I make room in our very small island condo for two bikes and three surfboards with a third bike in the back of my car and think we are strange for wearing helmets and can not comprehend why we do it.

    No, I do best by remaining silent. When they spend their $100 I say "nice bike" and "have fun."

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    Funny talk with a non biker

    I usually reply with. "A lot " when asked about price and let them draw their own conclusion. Yes, some conversations are funny with non- riders. Usually it's more of a you're crazy or it sounds like too much work kinda thing. But they are perfectly happy rotting indoors at a musty gym. I don't get that one. I'd rather be outside
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    Yeah, I learned a long time ago - you don't go into any depth about your cycling addiction, with those who don't ride. They never get it, and think you foolish.

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    I tell people that all hobbies are expensive. Whether you want to get into photography, painting, mountain biking, golfing, snowboarding, whatever. All gear is expensive no matter what it is. So if they look shocked, well.. They probably don't do much. I live in long Island though, and most people have some disposable income around here so it's not crazy to drop a few grand on a bike. In Florida where I used to live, yeah.. You tell someone that your bike costs more than they made last quarter and thats harder for them to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d365 View Post
    Yeah, I learned a long time ago - you don't go into any depth about your cycling addiction, with those who don't ride. They never get it, and think you foolish.
    This ^^^^
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    Update.... My girlfriends brother in law ended up buying a used Trek 820 and is loving it. He is now a believer that a good bike trumps a department store bike every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzwardo View Post
    Update.... My girlfriends brother in law ended up buying a used Trek 820 and is loving it. He is now a believer that a good bike trumps a department store bike every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I tell people that all hobbies are expensive.
    I read this thread and a phrase crossed my mind that bartenders use when people ask the price of a drink; "if you have to ask about the price of a drink, you probably don't have enough money to be drinking".

    A hobby I've had that cost me the least amount of money to practice is metal and PC component scrapping/recycling. That one actually pays. The most expensive hobby I've ever been involved with was league speedball-paintball. The only hobby that has had no expense to practice(well, I guess gas money is an expense), as well as no monetary return, has been assembling driftwood into standing abstract art at the beach.

    I've been able to draw two friends and a family member into buying Craigslist MTBs for going on trail rides. Time will tell if they decide to buy a more expensive, new bike with a warranty.
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    Some of those people with whom you discuss price are the same people who will say. Dang I paid almost that much for my last set of golf clubs, or my camera or my RC setup was 1000.00 and I have all of the good stuff. Cost vs reward is relative.
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    Tell them you have 9 bikes ( like me) and watch their faces. Priceless.

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    Funny talk with a non biker

    My dad came over to the house a few years ago and asked about my bike. He said "that must have cost over $1000." I said "yup. And over $2000 and over $3000 and over $4000."


    He was shocked. "Over $4000 for a bike and it doesn't even have pedals?!?"


    "Dad,those eggbeater looking things are pedals"

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    I went out to buy my first MTB as an adult and set myself what I thought to be a lofty budget of $1k, thinking "that's 10x what my bikes as a kid cost, it'll be NICE if I am willing to spend that much". Boy was I shocked when I arrived at the bike shop...

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    "That must be one of those expensive $500 bikes"
    *Not a real mountain biker

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    I usually steer the discussion away from money and towards bike travel destinations and maybe wildlife I've seen.

    If they are still interested, I show them scars.

    No one understands the money thing.
    How can anyone who's been riding as long as I have, be so slow???

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    Total non-riders... i just tell them about my experiences. Everyone understands how cool it is to ride to the top of the local mountain after work, have a bbq, and fly down with only flashlights.

    Or go to the Sierras, camp, ride, indulge, camp, and ride... for the cost of food and indulgences.

    Or sneak off for a day and get high on endorphin/adrenaline slurry.

    For those really interested in what i do... i have 2 really nice, fun bikes. I plop them on top of one of them and tell them that they don't have to worry about breaking things. They never do, and we go out and do easy, fun singletrack at a venue that fits their skill set. Most curious beginners figure out how much fun they could be having really quickly, and then they recognize the bike is just the cost of entry.

    It's not about money, it's never about money and people who want to talk about money make me bored and uncomfortable.
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    "Oh, you paid that much for a full suspension bike?"

    "I got one just like it at Wal-Mart for $99"

    I used to get that a lot.
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    I'm 5'8 and 170lbs and my friend is 6'5 and over 200lbs heavier than me... And he wanted to take my fs for a spin. I was like yo my rear shock is more than your car payment lol

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    I can barely believe what I paid for my newest bike and sometimes wonder if I'm an idiot for doing it. And mine is towards the bottom models in the range. I try to evade money discussions. But if they ask I'll tell them. I'll also explain what I do on it. How much time I spend doing it and why it was worth it to me.

    Must people seem to get at least that it is a very capable bike and let's me have enormous fun and be healthy. And I'd they have been to the areas I ride understand the need for a capable bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg View Post
    It's not about money, it's never about money and people who want to talk about money make me bored and uncomfortable.
    Seconded. I used to work with a guy that did this all the time: "I just got a new tv, it cost me this much..." about everything he bought, or he would say "how much did it cost you...?" for anything someone else bought.
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    A coworker of mine asked how much my carbon fiber superfly was and I replied with "2". His response was "Oh, $200? That's not too bad.". I just looked at him and slowly shook my head, he then said "you're fvckin nuts! 2 thousand?!"

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    Re: Funny talk with a non biker

    Most of my friends and family think I'm nuts for how much I spend on cycling, but my response is: It's a small price to pay for a hobby that keeps me happy and healthy. Cycling does a lot more for your physical and emotional well being than most any other hobby.

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    It's really funny that people have no problem spending $2000 a year on Cable TV and Cellphone contracts but think that a bike is too much money. It's too much money because most people aren't interested in exercising.

    I just got back from a cruise vacation. It wasn't my first choice but it wasn't bad. They had a spin class available so I went and signed up quickly so that it didn't fill up. hahaha! There were over 2000 passengers on that ship and you know how many people showed up to spin? Six. That's right 6 out of 2000. And it was a really good class!

    That's why most people think a bike is a waste of money. They're fat and lazy and have no intention of ever spending more than 15 minutes on it.

    If people would sell their TV's and buy a bike there would be a lot less fat asses out there.

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    In many ways, the mountain bike thing is cheaper than a lot of hobbies:

    Price out a modestly-equipped bass boat and base-level SUV to drag it around. Price out a decent set of golf clubs, club memberships (at least 2) and green fees for 6 or so weekends a year. How much did you pay for that powered hang glider?

    Now price out two mid-level MTB's, a rack for your Cherokee, and enough sports and camping gear for two days.

    If you're talking with people that never leave the yard (or couch)...why?

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    It's all about priorities. I cook at home most of the time, because eating out is expensive. We also don't have cable because we are never home to watch it. We have Internet though our neighbor who we run a cat5 cable to and use our own router and pay home 20 a month for sharing it instead. We download movies and use Netflix, thats about it. There are so many ways to fit a mtb into your budget if you make the sacrifice. I drive and older car because car payments cost money. We bought my gf's 08 jetta for 8k with 40k miles on it 2 years ago because she needs a reliable car for work. People ask me how I afford my bike's.. Well, I look for deals, I upgrade when things break.. And my fat bike I bought off of bd because I didn't want to spend 2k. It's pretty easy actually. I snowboard in the winter and go every week from long island. I buy tickets off liftopia for 25 bucks and split gas and tolls with friends. Not that expensive. So if you want to do soemthing you can find a way. I'm sick of people criticizing my lifestyle because I do all the things they're unwilling to make the compromises necessary to do.

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    I fix and tune up my friends and coworker's bikes. I like doing it and now that I have learned how to do almost everything short of servicing shocks it's easy and fun.

    I replaced a few parts on a friend's solid but chunky department store bike, adjusted the derailleurs and the brakes, cleaned and lubed the chain, and basically had it running like new but he was distraught to the point of abstraction that I had removed the two pound kickstand.

    He said he wanted to ride the local trails. I guess I should have known better. The first thing people ask me about my bikes is, "Where's the kickstand?"

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    Pretty much every hobby is really expensive if you get into it and start getting the good stuff.

    My mother-in-law has a sewing machine that cost over $5000, and my sister-in-law has cake pans that run about $350 a piece. They really like to sew and bake, respectively!

    No reason to have an attitude about it. When someone casually asks what my bike costs, I just reply that I don't remember, but it is probably my favorite thing I've ever bought.
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    Why is this thread all about the cost of a bike? There are a LOT of reasons non-riders think we are crazy. The blood and scars are one. The jumps and drops. The rock gardens. The long grueling climbs. The 6:00AM predawn rides. The 10:00PM winter rides in the snow. Lots of reasons people think we are nuts but all are also reasons to love the sport.

    Who cares how much the bike costs! Give a guy a $69.95 Walmart special and send him down a hill and over a small foot high jump and you will have him doing sprints back up the hill to do it again. Maybe when he breaks that bike he will buy a better one. Who cares? Its a hobby, its supposed to be fun.

    I also don't get why people keep harping on the health benefits and the exercise and such, who cares! It could be as healthy as smoking in a asbestos mine and I would still be out having a blast riding! Its about fun. If you get exercise as a byproduct then that's all well and good but if that's all it is to you then I bet your going to quit soon just like all those people with gym memberships.

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    I think we bring up money because the number one thing non riders want to talk about is money. My friends who don't ride think I'm crazy for the money I spend, not the risk I take because they aren't there to see it. They just see the money spent, because they have different priorities. I ride partially to stay in shape. So for me, they think I'm crazy for the money I spend, and I think I'm in better shape because of it. Plus I like it.

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    While talking to some friends at lunch I brought up the subject of mountain biking. Someone asked how much my bike cost and I said I paid $960 for it brand new.
    They were surprised that it cost so much and they said "I would never spend THAT MUCH on a bike".
    And then they thought I went mad when I told them I was thinking about buying a $2000 bike.
    That's non bikers for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailuropoda View Post
    He said he wanted to ride the local trails. I guess I should have known better. The first thing people ask me about my bikes is, "Where's the kickstand?"
    I used to bike with someone who had a kickstand. He thought it was really practical and thought I was insane for not having on on my bike.
    I said it looks bad, wimpy, and when you stop riding you can lean the bike up against a tree or wall, or on the ground.

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    I've never had a non biker ask me how much my bike costs. I always thought that since they have no point of reference it would never cross their mind that the bike is an expensive piece of equipment.
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    I tell everyone the same story of my friend who got a kick stand through her thigh... They usually ask me if I have a tool to take it off with me lol.. I don't ride with people who have kick stands that **** stays home.

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    Re: Funny talk with a non biker

    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    I've never had a non biker ask me how much my bike costs. I always thought that since they have no point of reference it would never cross their mind that the bike is an expensive piece of equipment.
    The problem is for most people, their point of reference is a $100 wal-mart bike. Any legitimate bike looks outrageously expensive compared to that.

    I've heard "you paid $1200 for THAT(hardtail)?? I got one with full suspension for $100!" several times.

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    People who don't know bikes can't recognize the difference between cheap components and quality components, a wheel is a wheel to them, if they see a steel wheel on a Walmart bike and a carbon wheel on a high end build they see two wheels, that's it. The best way I could think of explaining it would be to use cars as a comparison, since most people can tell inexpensive cars apart from expensive ones. You can use any cheap clunker to commute around town, but you need a very expensive sports car if you want to drive fast on a race track. You're not riding down the street or bike path like them, you need a more expensive bike that is much lighter and stronger so you can ride fast around difficult trails. If they can't understand why you would want to ride like that then they probably have a hard time having fun.

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