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    Quote Originally Posted by DLd View Post
    Are the 2013 models of the SM3 with the updated foam in stock now at suppliers like BTI?
    No. The 2013 SM3 will not hit N. American soil until late April or early May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERGON View Post
    No. The 2013 SM3 will not hit N. American soil until late April or early May.

    Jeff K
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    Thanks Jeff!

    Can you please post up when the 2013 SM3 L is available, and where?

    Thanks!

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    They will be available at Brazil?

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    You will need to check with the Brazilian distributor to see if they are stocking the SM3. Their contact is...

    Vanguarda Sports
    Rua Maria Candida, 1372
    Vila Gullherme
    Sao Paulo

    E-Mail: daniel@vanguardasports.com.br
    Homepage: :: VANGUARDA ::

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    Any reviews on the new road saddle?

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    Ergon SM3 saddle

    I won a large black pro sm3 at annadel Xc recently. I have the same saddle on all road and mtb bikes (spesh phenom 143), so not sure I am going to try it or not. It's about the width I think I need and looks great...just not really looking for a new saddle and kinda like having the same one to be conditioned on, instead of having a diff saddle one one bike. Anyone looking for one?
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    SR3 road saddle reviews, anyone?

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    I'm wondering about an SME3 review, there seems to be few reviews.

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    Does anyone know if the ti rail vs carbon rail saddle have any difference in give or flex.
    Another example question would be is there better vibration in one or the other?
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    Hey Jeff,
    Could you explain the actual differences in the SM3 (MTB specific) and the SR3 (road specific)? They look almost identical.
    Also, it seems the beef with these saddles is with the perennial area being too firm and/or not relieved enough. What is/was the thought behind that?
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    The SM saddles vs the SR saddle....
    - The SR is much firmer than the SM saddles.
    - The nose on the SR is also not as padded as the SM saddles.
    - SR saddle in general is lower profile.
    - Due to the constant state of sitting, the SR saddle has less organic shaping. The SM saddles have more rounded corners due to the on/off the saddle while riding.

    There is not a large relief in our saddles for 1 big reason, these tend to lead to more issue rather than solve issues. Deep reliefs or holes in the saddles create ridges....which tend to push into rider soft tissue. With saddle our research, we found the deepest relief you can make with out causing issues to the rider soft tissue is 6mm deep. Our SMC3 has the deepest relief offering of 6mm. Rest of our saddles have minimal relief. If a rider is having issues in the perennial area with any brand of saddle it comes down to 2 things; saddle height and the rider sitting too far forward on the saddle. We have found through our years of research, going to events, talking with riders, etc......there there are a handful of commonalities being seen...
    - Most riders on a saddle that is too narrow
    - Most riders saddles are too far back, forcing them too the narrow part of saddle.
    - Most riders saddles are too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERGON View Post
    There is not a large relief in our saddles for 1 big reason, these tend to lead to more issue rather than solve issues. Deep reliefs or holes in the saddles create ridges....which tend to push into rider soft tissue. With saddle our research, we found the deepest relief you can make with out causing issues to the rider soft tissue is 6mm deep. Our SMC3 has the deepest relief offering of 6mm. Rest of our saddles have minimal relief. If a rider is having issues in the perennial area with any brand of saddle it comes down to 2 things; saddle height and the rider sitting too far forward on the saddle. We have found through our years of research, going to events, talking with riders, etc......there there are a handful of commonalities being seen...
    - Most riders on a saddle that is too narrow
    - Most riders saddles are too far back.
    - Most riers saddles are too high.

    Jeff K
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    Informative response, Jeff...thanks. Disregard the inquiry on Roadbike R. So, it looks like I could use an SM saddle on my roadie and just switch out.

    Some have said that unlike some saddles, the preferred positioning is slightly nose-down. Is that how the designers envisioned it?
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    There are handful of Ergon saddle now. Here it is broken down...
    SMR3: MTB race saddle
    SMC3: MTB comfort saddle
    SME3: Enduro/gravity/all-mtn saddle
    SR3: Road
    SRX3: CX

    Nose down varies from rider to rider. Many of our racers, me included, are about 1 to 2 degrees nose down. This rocks the sitbones forward which translates to about 1-2 extra watts per pedal stroke. This has been measured and proven via an SRM. Of course, this position isn't for everyone. Also, no, this wasn't figured into the design of the saddle. The main key points which all our saddles have in common...
    1. Thin shell
    2. sit bone pockets formed into the shell. 3 widths available: S, M, L
    4. floating rail system which pushes away trail/road feedback.
    5. Ride specific tuning. Each saddle has been designed for its intended riding application.

    As we tell all consumers/athletes, saddles are tricky. Find what works for you....adjust how you need it. Everyone is different. We'd love to have every rider on an Ergon saddle. We know that isn't 100% possible, but are willing to go to great lengths with design and testing to make the saddle decision that much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERGON View Post
    There are handful of Ergon saddle now. Here it is broken down...
    SMR3: MTB race saddle
    SMC3: MTB comfort saddle
    SME3: Enduro/gravity/all-mtn saddle
    SR3: Road
    SRX3: CX
    Jeff, one last question (I promise)...where would the older SM3 Pro Carbon model fit in the new line-up?
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    The old SM3 would be closest to the new SMR3. The SMR3 has upgrades; better foam (same used in high-end running shoes) and a shell where the thigh/wing area has a bit more flex.

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