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    Do all Crank Bros componets suck?

    I like componets made by just about everyone, but damn their stuff has let me down. Used Eggbeaters a bit back to save weight, but the bushing/bearings lasted less than a season and would forcibly eject me on pedal strikes. I recently picked up the 65.00 "Split Lever Seatpost clamp" purely for it's cool asthetics and color combo. Yes.....65.00 for a post clamp. Pure junk. Mine wouldn't clamp a wooden broom handle to a peg board. Super weak, plastic binder nut, just totally crappy.

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    i am a fan of my eggbeaters....been using for 7 or 8 years now...
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    My Eggbeaters lasted a total of 30 miles, I ride Shimano now. YMMV.

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    Yes, they do.

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    Brand new 5050 XXs , lasted two rides, started clicking. Thought it was the bottom bracket, changed it out, finally figured out it was the left pedal. Waiting to see if they will warranty them. Bought some Straitlines.
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    My dropper seat post didn't work right out of the box. So I had to burn a bunch of gas, time and money to ship it back for repair. I couldn't even get my money back so I could change brands.

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    The Candy's that came with my most recent bike were "steaming coils of dog squeeze on a hot summer's pavement" compared to my Time ATAC pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huck Pitueee View Post
    My dropper seat post didn't work right out of the box. So I had to burn a bunch of gas, time and money to ship it back for repair. I couldn't even get my money back so I could change brands.
    And I have been using my Joplin dropper remote for 4 years with no problems. I guess each one is different and it's just the luck of the draw.
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    I've got multiple pairs of eggbeaters (oldest are 5+ years old), 5050s, and an iodine wheelset. Never had a problem with any of it.

    CB stuff is funny...some people seems to have trouble with it, others never have a single thing go wrong. No idea why that is. I like mine.
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    I just got a mouth full of dirt, ripped/bruised shoulder&arm and a torn finger nail thanks to my joplin4r malfunctioning (again) in the middle of a race. I've already had to send it back once. I want to sell it but feel bad about heaving my **** onto some other unsuspecting buyer. I definitely think that Crank Bros have got it goin' on style wise, but their quality is shite.

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    **** CBs everything.

    Though those Egg 11s look pretty awesome for CX!

    But Ill never know.
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    I'm starting to become annoyed with Eggbeaters. They are great for CX (4 way clip in), but for mountain biking, I just don't think there's enough platform there. They kinda make my feet hurt, and the springs become unreliable to the point my foot just unclips.

    I like the Candy's for MTB, which gives a little more platform - but I'm thinking about switching over the ATAC's. Will my CB cleats clips in to them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I like the Candy's for MTB, which gives a little more platform - but I'm thinking about switching over the ATAC's. Will my CB cleats clips in to them?
    No, you'll need the Time cleats

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    I’ve got just under 8,000 miles on a set of Crank Brother Candy “C” pedals. Sure, I had to re-pack the spindles with Phil Wood Hub Grease three times, but otherwise no complaints. I should mention that I regularly ride on some rocky-ass technical stuff on a fully-rigid bike (2009 11th Anniversary Edition Surly 1x1 “Rat Ride”) with this particular set of pedals too.

    The only complaint I have about any Crank Brothers products are the Candy 2 pedals, which unfortunately have a different bearing/spindle/bushing/o-ring design which is problematic for user servicing unless you have the same tools the Crank Brothers service people use. I abandoned my Candy 2 (the orange anodised ones) pedals after roughly 400 miles of riding, and this unfortunately included a free full-service “overhaul” (new springs and internals) by the Crank Brothers people themselves (at Sea Otter Classic 2012) since one of the springs (cannot remember if it’s the right or left pedal) lacks proper tension and now ejects my cleat upon a very light amount of upward pedal motion.
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    Okay guys go easy on me, but my Crank Brothers
    Cobalt wheels that I have on one of my bikes have
    been trouble free.

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    They're more fashion than function from what I've experienced...

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    The boxes the products come in are nice and have good padding so when you have to ship them back for warranty all the broken parts shouldn't get scuffed
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    I have that split collar post clamp. I definately bought it for aestetics, works OK.

    The saddles they sell are pretty good. They're made by Fizik and are 'Tinker' Juarez approved.

    If they invested as much in engineering as their art department this would be a really great company, thats no disrespect to CB, I'm just saying the potential for something special is there.

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    My 50/50s lasted 1 year before the bearings wore out, suppose they could have lasted a bit longer before i had to change the bearings, but went to straitlines n never would go back
    IMO they do make a good multi tool, my crank bros multi 17 is the best ive used n is like the day i bought it, but yes ive heard many times that people have have had problems with their stuff so where theres smoke theres fire..
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    I rode Eggbeaters for about three rides, then ditched them because of the rock-strike-eject problem and the mushy feel they had when clipped in.

    A friend had his Eggbeaters disintegrate on another ride.

    Another friend has had Eggbeaters for years and no problems.

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    I have been on a set of Iodine 29 for 8 months/1600 miles and trouble free......save for a couple of loose spokes.
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    The only product of theirs that I have is a Cobalt headset. Other than some issues with initial set up (most likely user induced) it has been trouble free for about a year.

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    I'd have to say no, they don't suck. Maybe I've just been lucky IDK, but there must be some truths to so many people not liking their quality.
    For the record, Times, which IMO seem to have the biggest, strongest following, can also unclip you from bottom strikes.
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    I had a pair candys for 5 days. Then I switched back to SPDs and I've never looked back.

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    all my cb products have been great. seems hit or miss for some people though.

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    I've never had any issues with cb stuff. Since the op is complaining about a dropper post, can anyone name a dropper post that has not had issues? I've heard problems associated with every single dropper I can think of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmason View Post
    I've got multiple pairs of eggbeaters (oldest are 5+ years old), 5050s, and an iodine wheelset. Never had a problem with any of it.

    CB stuff is funny...some people seems to have trouble with it, others never have a single thing go wrong. No idea why that is. I like mine.
    Loose manufacturing tolerances. Just like Harbor freight stuff. Some times your lucky enough that all the important dimensions are at the right end of the tolerance. In that case your parts work as intended. But when you've got a bering that's undersized and a bore that's over or vice versa it's going to fail quickly if it works at all.

    I've worked in the industry for some time and try to keep an open mind about products. They may not be right for me (dropper seat post) but they might be perfect for others. But I've been burned on crank brothers products too many times to give them the time of day. I just absolutely refuse to sell them. I need my customers healthy so they can keep riding, thus supporting my business. In other ways than warranting pedals.

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    My Joplin4 and eggbeaters must have been made on a Wednesday...I have had zero problems and have beat the HELL out of them....because I suck and they get abused...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul.C View Post
    I've never had any issues with cb stuff. Since the op is complaining about a dropper post, can anyone name a dropper post that has not had issues? I've heard problems associated with every single dropper I can think of.
    Please re-read. I'm not complaining about a dropper post. I don't use dropper posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kuhl View Post
    Okay guys go easy on me, but my Crank Brothers
    Cobalt wheels that I have on one of my bikes have
    been trouble free.
    mine not so much. Nothing major, they are nice and light and cool lookin, but at least three times now, something within the wheel guts had to be tightened. i kept getting tic noises every 3 months or so.
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    I have been riding Mallets for about eight years. The only time I had a problem was when I didn't rebuild them. They do require more maintenance due to the use of bushings instead of bearings on the spindle.

    I picked up a Joplin 4 because my riding buddy has had his for two years with zero issues. He does clean it after every ride, as everybody should. Just like wiping down the stanchions on your fork and your shock.

    I also have driven VWs forever and know that maintenance is critical. It will make all the difference in the quality of your experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt farmer View Post
    No, you'll need the Time cleats
    And the Time pedals will come with cleats, of course.

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    I should add, my 5050Xs (bushings), 8000 miles, no problems whatsoever. 5050XXs (bearings) , 2 rides, started clicking(bearings). The XXs also were manufactured poorly, so you needed a rubber mallet to change the plates, and the still didn't line up right. Seems like their QC is all over the place, IMO.
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    Only ever run their headsets.
    First one cracked during installation, called up CB about a warranty, their response was "we can sell you the part that broke"
    Was able to warranty it by going through a local dealer.
    Then the replacement cracked after not too terribly much ride time, about the same time the upper bearings seized up.

    If it weren't for my unhealthy obsession with proprietary wheels, I'd not dream of buying CB again.
    (and even then, would have to find a screaming deal on said wheels)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    mine not so much. Nothing major, they are nice and light and cool lookin, but at least three times now, something within the wheel guts had to be tightened. i kept getting tic noises every 3 months or so.
    Yeah Nicole tics are plentiful this year, be sure to check yourself thoroughly after each ride.
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    So I shoot off all full of bravado, hit this wee booter - grabbing some air, then I land - leading into a greasy rut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
    i am a fan of my eggbeaters....been using for 7 or 8 years now...
    Exactly the same for me.

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    I love the Mallet pedals. Not the new ones but the older ones from 2008. I have some eggbeaters and candy's that I will trade in a heartbeat for those. Too bad they stopped making those. Easy to refurbish, too.

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    Sorry but i love the crank brothers stuff

    On my Yeti ASR Carbon I have

    - Titanium egg baters
    - QR split seat clamp
    - Split Skewers

    On my Yeti Big Top

    - Colbat 2 Wheels
    - QR split seat clamp
    - Titanium egg baters
    - Split Skewers

    And i carry a 19 piece multi tool

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    Thanks for all of the replies. It's good to hear that some have positive experiences. I like the looks of the stuff. I guess QC is just hit or miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul.C View Post
    I've never had any issues with cb stuff. Since the op is complaining about a dropper post, can anyone name a dropper post that has not had issues? I've heard problems associated with every single dropper I can think of.
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    Wait...you paid $65 for a seat clamp? Really?

    The couple small things I've had from CB have all ended up sucking. Not a fan, and won't be buying anything of theirs again. Some seemingly great ideas, but poor implementation/engineering, and baaaaaaad QC.

    2 supposedly stainless steel multi tools - both turned into rusty junk in short order
    1 headset - ridden for about two months, then the outer cups just started to break apart yes, installed properly
    1 mini pump - constant problems with the thing leaking, bad sealing, o-rings that crapped out.
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    Their grips are nice. The foam ones anyway. I've never used the rubber ones, but the foam ones last plenty long (if you dont wreck too often)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    My Eggbeaters lasted a total of 30 miles, I ride Shimano now. YMMV.
    I am still riding a 4 year old set of egg beater 4 ti's and they are as good as new

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    How do you guys like the multi tools made by crank bros? I am thinking of buying one.

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    multi tools and grips have never done me wrong, seems to be hit or miss on everything else@

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocop View Post
    Thanks for all of the replies. It's good to hear that some have positive experiences. I like the looks of the stuff. I guess QC is just hit or miss.
    I have had great luck with eggbeaters, currently I own three pairs and have no problems with them but I do maintain them ad I am supposed too and I also weigh 200 lbs an give them quite a beating. On the other hand my wife hates her candy c's that she rides?

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    I have a CB multi-tool. The one that comes in a little aluminum storage container.
    Its OK at best.
    Probably the rustiest "stainless" that I have ever seen (retired machinist)
    Would not replace it with a CB item, but would look elsewhere - Lezyne, Topeak, Blackburn etc

    For me no CB products.
    I love the look of some of the items, but from reading reports/reviews for the last few years I would have to agree that the QC is pretty much non-existent.

    YMMV like always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycling Cyco View Post
    How do you guys like the multi tools made by crank bros? I am thinking of buying one.
    My brother in law has one of the first generation multi tools and it is still going strong and in regards to tools it has stayed pretty solid and not loosened up over the years. I don't think you can go wrong with any brand of multi tool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycling Cyco View Post
    How do you guys like the multi tools made by crank bros? I am thinking of buying one.
    My wife bought me the Pica+ for Christmas last year and it's been great, copes well with trail maintenance and has a quality feel about it.

    The thing is, all CB products tend to have a quality feel about them until they go wrong, I've had mixed results...

    I'll list what I've had:

    Foam Lock on Grips - Excellent grips but found them to be too short for my hands and the sharp plastic would cut into them.

    Smarty Pedals - Still got them after about 5 years/200 miles, these are the unserviceable (or throw away ones!) but they work when needed.

    Egg Beater 1 1st Gen - Still got them again after about 2.5 years/300 miles, they work well and the barings seem good.

    5050X - Good pedals, poor grip but no other problems.

    Acid 2 - Used these for 26 months or so and covered about 500 miles on them until the axle on one pedal snapped and I was unable to find a replacement and it was out of warranty by then so off to the bin they went. These were up to then the best pedal I've ever ran, they did require stripping and regreasing every month after the first 5 months though!

    Candy 3 - I currently use these everyday, however they've just come back from the UK distributor after they completed a full service on them as I've had to strip and regrease them every month since month 5 again! I like the pedals but they do eject my feet on harder rock strikes and as they are now getting well used after covering about 1200 miles they are very sharp as my shins will tell you if you ask them, or look at them!

    I love the confidence CB pedals give me, they are easy to clip in, they are comfortable and work very sweetly when they're serviced. However, the service issues are annoying, especially in the rainy conditions of the North York Moors where I'm from.

    These issues have led my eyes to wander back over to Shimano SPD's but I've never been a fan of how they work to be honest. The new Time modular pedals that were shown at Eurobike last week are interesting though...

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    3 sets to nothing....

    I had 3 pairs of their pedals and had a warranty issue they would not take care of. It was expensive, but I switched to Shimano XTR's. Best damn decision I ever made. Their cleats are made from steel and not bronze, they have outlasted the CB's. Whenever you have bronze, it will wear out quickly.

    CB is more concerned in pretty packaging lots of colors and bling......

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    I don't use CB stuff myself. Too many issues from other riders.
    A friend of mine used the Acids on his SS. He actually broke a spindle off. Uhm, ya, no thanks. I don't need that top tube cup check while hammering a climb.
    I have used SPDs since the early 90s. I have never had problems with them. A little fresh grease once a year and they just keep going.


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    Ordered a set of Acid two pedals and one teh bearings were a bit rough so it did not spin easily, got another set and the other pedal did the same thing, so between two sets I had one solid set of free spinning pedals, that was 600 miles ago, they have been great.
    I have problems with soreness on my feet do to gout and the platform is perfect so this problem is gone.
    My only real complaint was it took way to long for the spring tension to lighten up and ejecting from them was a PIITB.

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    I haven't had very good luck with their stuff either.

    When they came out with the Cobalt ISIS bottom bracket with the 5 year warranty I bought one. Warrantied that thing 3 times in one summer. What a POS. I sold the last one I got back before installing it. The 50/50 pedals we tried on my wife's bike literally fell apart. I have a few friends that have had similar bad luck. Mostly with pedals and one dropper post that I know of.

    I can't say I have been around a lot of their stuff, but what I have tried and seen friends try hasn't worked out very well.

    On a bright note, I have one of the first generations of the Multi 19 tool and it has been great. It has been a really good tool and I don't have a bad thing to say about it.

    I guess it is like some are saying that it is really luck of the draw what quality you will get when you buy something.
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    Have close to 1000 mi on my Eggbeater 3s and haven't done anything but ride them. Still as good as new, and no comfort problems with my middle-quality Bonty shoes. If you don't have a shoe with a sole, they make models with a little platform.

    Yes, they can unclip if you strike the bottom -- it is going to spread the blades apart. When I do this I generally start to fall over, so being unclipped isn't a bad thing as I see it. However, I usually strike the bottom of the crank arm rather than the pedal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    And I have been using my Joplin dropper remote for 4 years with no problems. I guess each one is different and it's just the luck of the draw.
    The virtue of the Joplin post is that it was designed by another company and re-badged by Crank Brothers.

    Their products have lovely packaging and novel design/ergonomics. But they are not built to be robust. They have lots of fans who use them gently but take them out of their comfort zone and their products fail catastrophically. I have a separated shoulder to prove it.

    Besides their pedals, I have also experienced the split clamp that does the OPPOSITE of what is promised. I've read about multi-tools which are ever so slightly off size. I have received pedal axels that were off size. Freehub bodies on $900 wheelsets spontaneously failing, crank arms shearing off, cleats that only last half a season .... yadda, yadda, yadda.

    I wouldn't trust Crank Brothers for anything, not when there are alternative providers with much higher quality offerings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    I’ve got just under 8,000 miles on a set of Crank Brother Candy “C” pedals. Sure, I had to re-pack the spindles with Phil Wood Hub Grease three times, but otherwise no complaints. I should mention that I regularly ride on some rocky-ass technical stuff on a fully-rigid bike (2009 11th Anniversary Edition Surly 1x1 “Rat Ride”) with this particular set of pedals too.
    ....
    I had a conversation with a tech and he warned me about using them in the wet. Like, road riding in the rain. Is that Crank Brothers fault? If they don't put stickers on their fancy boxes warning you not to use the pedals in wet conditions ... yes.

    There is a warning on their Mallet Pedals warning you not to use certain types of Loc-Tite on their Mallet Pedals. They must of finally got sued. Of course if they manufactured their product with precise tolerances, users would not have to add more loctite to keep the traction pins in place.

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    The only cb product I have is the 19 multi tool...and it drives me absolutely insane that the chain break tool doesn't tighten against the body of the tool. When it is tight, it sticks out at a 35 degree angle, so I wind up leaving it loose and folding one of the other tools over it to hold it in place. That is just bad engineering.

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    For the record, Times, which IMO seem to have the biggest, strongest following, can also unclip you from bottom strikes.
    This only applies to the X-Roc pedal line, not the traditional ATACs.

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    I have a pair of Candy's and a pair of SL's. Both now have play in the bearings from half a season of riding on each. I only use them for commuting now. Don't trust them on the trail. I "almost" bought a CB headset but read too many negative reviews. The only other CB product I have is a pair of Split Lever Skewers and I absolutely hate those things.

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    been using eggbeaters for the last 3 seasons on 4 bikes. broke a wing when i hit the pedal against a rock. hard. my fault.

    other than that - trouble free...

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    I won't be buying anymore CB stuff after my last issue with them. I had bought a set of 5050xx pedals, my old 5050x set lasted a long time, they have bushings. After a two rides on the xx pedals, I had a clicking sound on every revolution. Assuming it was my bottom bracket, not my brand new (and not cheap) pedals, I put in a new BB. Figured out it was the left pedal. Sent them back to CB with a detailed email regarding my concerns about the pedals. They have interchangeable plates and these had to be hammered in and out with a rubber mallet. The slid out easily on my 5050xs. They sent me back the pedals with a card that said they got the "Spa treatment" . They checked off that they had done bearings in the left pedal. They never addressed my other concerns and I sent them a few emails asking about the plates, whether or not they checked the other pedal, etc. I never got a reply, so I gave up. You also need proprietary tools to service the pedals, which sucks IMO. I bought a set of Straitlines and love them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    been using eggbeaters for the last 3 seasons on 4 bikes. broke a wing when i hit the pedal against a rock. hard. my fault.

    other than that - trouble free...
    I remember when you were claiming that certain models of the ellsworth bikes weren't cracking, so users posted up the pics of their bikes, addressed to you. Actually, you are one of the biggest reasons I made that ellsworth-collage of cracked frames. Not that bikes don't crack, but they had some specific issues to be addressed, which you denied up and down. Haha. Good stuff.
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    Well, I guess the only good thing I can say about Crank Bros products is that their regular failures allows a slow out of shape rider like me to stay in touch with the faster guys on group rides when a broken CB part brings them to a stop.

    Nice concept & style, the execution on the other hand is pretty half-baked.

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    I won't buy anything but CB pedals. I have CB pedals on the 3 road and 4 mtb's in the collection. Two pairs are on at least year 3 with pretty heavy use. Only issue I've ever had was smashing a spindle on a road and bending it a little. Have never serviced any of them either which is the surprising part.
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    Yes. Same quality as the stuff on super cheap bikes, just cool paint/name and the crankbrothers logo
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    I've had 3 pairs of eggbeaters. Total crap compared to the atacs I now use. My second pair of EB literally came apart on my road bike.

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    I'm going to update my reply from August.

    I am done with CB pedals. As they start to go out, I'm switching to Time pedals. Done. Over.

    I'm tired of breaking them or wearing out prematurely.

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    Seeing all this post regarding (most of them) about the poor QC in their pedals, what about their handlebars?
    Specifically the cobal carbon (11), any user experiences? For agressive XC (no drops) and racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Seeing all this post regarding (most of them) about the poor QC in their pedals, what about their handlebars?
    Specifically the cobal carbon (11), any user experiences? For agressive XC (no drops) and racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Seeing all this post regarding (most of them) about the poor QC in their pedals, what about their handlebars?
    Specifically the cobal carbon (11), any user experiences? For agressive XC (no drops) and racing.

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    I have had a pair on my singlespeed for the last year....nice bars.....considering how much pulling I have done to them, and I am definately not taking it easy on them...no problems. Actually want to replace the CB Sage bar on the Tallboy with the Cobalt 11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Seeing all this post regarding (most of them) about the poor QC in their pedals, what about their handlebars?
    Specifically the cobal carbon (11), any user experiences? For agressive XC (no drops) and racing.!
    As a general rule, if a Crank Bros. product has more than one part, it's going to have issues. The handlebar is probably fine, I haven't seen or heard of any mass breakages but personally I still wouldn't get one on general principle. I refuse to support a company which makes so many disposable products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Seeing all this post regarding (most of them) about the poor QC in their pedals, what about their handlebars?
    Specifically the cobal carbon (11), any user experiences? For agressive XC (no drops) and racing.

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    I run these bars on my Salsa FS, and 2 years of severe AZ abuse have put some gouges in them, but they work fine. I run Candy pedals on one bike, and they are fine, no issues. I also had 2 multi tools, but they both somehow removed themselves from my tailpack within a couple of weeks of each other, so I cannot really comment. We don't have rust here, so I also cannot comment on Russian submarine steel either!
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    I'm one of the few users who have had great success using CB pedals. I started with a set of smarty pedals in 2007 or 2008 and I wore the bearing/bushing out, but I could still ride them today if I wanted. They won't be as smooth, but they work great. Another set lasted five years until I broke a wing. I replaced the wing and the bearings and they are still going strong. I no longer buy a rebuild kit. I just get a new set of candy pedals for 30 bucks and move on when I do wear them out, which seems to take me years.

    I've also had friends smash CB pedals on 1 ride by having a very hard rock strike and others will wear out leaving you coming unclipped.
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    My experiences with Crank Brothers products have been less than desirable. Fortunately, their customer service is good!

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    I've a set of the cheapest eggbeaters that I've been riding for two seasons now with no issues. Being in Alaska, I end up in some pretty gnarly mud and muck, snow and ice, and they've held up great.

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    I had their mutli-tool and that thing broke trying to fix my chain.

    The Kronlog looked cool but I think everyone's has broken.
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    I got soem new BMX pedals from CrankBros and they are terrible.


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    Make sure your dental insurance is up to date before you use a CB handlebar.
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    Much as I detest most of their products, I went against my better judgement and bought one of their multi-tools on discount.

    Given my opinion of CB, I was half expecting it to have crap tolerances and strip screw heads, or to simply disintegrate into a pile of rust within half a year.

    Surprisingly, it's been one of the best tools I've owned- it's got all the right bits on it (for me), it's comfortable to use and my sample has tolerances that work. I chose the m10 as anything larger starts including things which I think do not belong on a multi-tool (e.g. a chain tool, which should be a separate piece).

    Would I buy CB for anything else? Maybe for some non-critical accessory that looked pretty, but not for anything that I could result in injury if it broke. I'm still waiting for reports of the first generation of stems and handlebars to start self destructing.

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    I did the same and bought a CB17. It had the features I needed in a tool for the right price.

    It works as intended with no major issues. It is very cheap stainless though and is developing a lot of rust. But most other multi-tools develop rust over time too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    I did the same and bought a CB17. It had the features I needed in a tool for the right price.

    It works as intended with no major issues. It is very cheap stainless though and is developing a lot of rust. But most other multi-tools develop rust over time too...

    The park ones don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aBicycle View Post
    The park ones don't.
    And thats why I bought a park multi tool.

    So far, I've never used any thing park that isnt amazing
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    WAG-5 dishing tool isn't too hot... but I digress.

    Just bought some Candy 2s as my first foray into the world of SPD/Clipless. I was told they are easy to get into and out of. I don't want to eat asphalt on my first spin round the block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Goldenberg View Post
    WAG-5 dishing tool isn't too hot... but I digress.

    Just bought some Candy 2s as my first foray into the world of SPD/Clipless. I was told they are easy to get into and out of. I don't want to eat asphalt on my first spin round the block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Goldenberg View Post
    WAG-5 dishing tool isn't too hot... but I digress.

    Just bought some Candy 2s as my first foray into the world of SPD/Clipless. I was told they are easy to get into and out of. I don't want to eat asphalt on my first spin round the block.

    Did I do bad?
    FYI - You will eat asphalt, but that would happen regardless of the clipless pedal you choose.

    I love the action on CB pedals. I particularly need the float they offer for my knees. I switched to SPD for a brief period and my knees were not happy. I would try Times, but have not felt like making the investment yet. I moved closer to the switch when I broke my second pedal spindle in September.

    My Joplin 4 is still working great, though. As are the ones on two of my buddies' bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Goldenberg View Post
    WAG-5 dishing tool isn't too hot... but I digress.

    Just bought some Candy 2s as my first foray into the world of SPD/Clipless. I was told they are easy to get into and out of. I don't want to eat asphalt on my first spin round the block.

    Did I do bad?
    Yes and no. They are easy in that they don't require a lot of "force" and that they are "smooth". They require you to twist your heel a certain amount of degrees before they will release. On the other hand, they will absolutely not release until this point, no matter how hard you yank. This has it's good points and bad points. Sometimes they can be a little tricky to get into if the mechanism happens to be at just the right spot, as your foot will kind of "roll" off the pedal, and the crankbrother's cleats are known to wear down fairly fast, which will eventually lead to unplanned and inconsistent releases.

    You probably wont "eat asphalt" though, because their mechanism works very similar to the pedal company Time, although time's aren't susceptible to releasing if the bottom of the pedal hits a rock like CBs. The pedals work essentially like the Times and those are very popular. Not everyone has problems with the CBs immediately self destructing, and their customer service usually has been good, it's just that some of us got tired of having to use it. I suggest if you like the mechanism and how it feels and later down the road they break or have to be replaced, then buy Times. Same entry-exit feel and basic operation, far better quality and design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    I'd have to say no, they don't suck. Maybe I've just been lucky IDK, but there must be some truths to so many people not liking their quality.
    For the record, Times, which IMO seem to have the biggest, strongest following, can also unclip you from bottom strikes.
    Times can't unclip from bottom strikes, the two sides retention bars move independently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi View Post
    This only applies to the X-Roc pedal line, not the traditional ATACs.
    Not even the X-Rocs will unclip with a bottom strike. I had regular ATACs (yellow plastic plate) for ~10 years, and now have X-Roc S...same exact mechanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aBicycle View Post
    The park ones don't.
    You should see how much rust my Park TP dispenser has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocop View Post
    I like componets made by just about everyone, but damn their stuff has let me down. Used Eggbeaters a bit back to save weight, but the bushing/bearings lasted less than a season and would forcibly eject me on pedal strikes. I recently picked up the 65.00 "Split Lever Seatpost clamp" purely for it's cool asthetics and color combo. Yes.....65.00 for a post clamp. Pure junk. Mine wouldn't clamp a wooden broom handle to a peg board. Super weak, plastic binder nut, just totally crappy.

    Only if you are over 200# I don't think any of their stuff is made for heavy riders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    You should see how much rust my Park TP dispenser has.
    Thats splatter

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    I've bought a bunch of their stuff and have been quite happy.

    Iodine rims- I've beaten them to hell and back and they're going strong.
    Cobalt rims- I beat them to hell.. and then bought the Iodines (#220 and lack finesse) But they did good for a long time.
    (3) different multitools. All have been great without any issues at all.
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    Multiple sets of egg beaters. They've never let me down or broken.

    On the note of pedal strikes and pedals releasing. I've only had this happen twice in 4 years. Don't hit rocks with your pedals. You're not supposed to.

    I haven't had any issues with bearings, broken springs, anything of the sort.

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    Yes Crank Brothers stuff is crap, this is a fact.

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    I just broke my third CB pedal axle last week. I think it's time to try some Times. I'm hoping the float will be similar to CB because my knees hate SPD.

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    How are you breaking so many pedals? I've been riding them for 6yrs, weigh over **cough** 215lbs and have never broken a single pedal.

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    I don't know, I have Eggbeater 3 pedals with 2200 miles on them, and they work and look like new. I just keep them clean and greased them once as recommended. And I see a lot of other guys with eggbeaters especially here lately.

    I'm thinking that maybe the cheaper ones that don't hold up. Anyway, I love mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbell View Post
    How are you breaking so many pedals? I've been riding them for 6yrs, weigh over **cough** 215lbs and have never broken a single pedal.
    I have no idea. I weigh 185 and I don't consider myself a hard rider. I don't jump any big stuff. But the facts remain. I keep breaking these pedals. This last one did strike a log (not a rock) as I rolled over, but the other two broke without impact.

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    I'm using one of their handle bars. Seems ok to me. I've not had any issues. It's aluminum and it does what it's supposed to do. Maybe if it was carbon it would be a different story.

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