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    I don't use CB stuff myself. Too many issues from other riders.
    A friend of mine used the Acids on his SS. He actually broke a spindle off. Uhm, ya, no thanks. I don't need that top tube cup check while hammering a climb.
    I have used SPDs since the early 90s. I have never had problems with them. A little fresh grease once a year and they just keep going.


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    Ordered a set of Acid two pedals and one teh bearings were a bit rough so it did not spin easily, got another set and the other pedal did the same thing, so between two sets I had one solid set of free spinning pedals, that was 600 miles ago, they have been great.
    I have problems with soreness on my feet do to gout and the platform is perfect so this problem is gone.
    My only real complaint was it took way to long for the spring tension to lighten up and ejecting from them was a PIITB.

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    I haven't had very good luck with their stuff either.

    When they came out with the Cobalt ISIS bottom bracket with the 5 year warranty I bought one. Warrantied that thing 3 times in one summer. What a POS. I sold the last one I got back before installing it. The 50/50 pedals we tried on my wife's bike literally fell apart. I have a few friends that have had similar bad luck. Mostly with pedals and one dropper post that I know of.

    I can't say I have been around a lot of their stuff, but what I have tried and seen friends try hasn't worked out very well.

    On a bright note, I have one of the first generations of the Multi 19 tool and it has been great. It has been a really good tool and I don't have a bad thing to say about it.

    I guess it is like some are saying that it is really luck of the draw what quality you will get when you buy something.
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    Have close to 1000 mi on my Eggbeater 3s and haven't done anything but ride them. Still as good as new, and no comfort problems with my middle-quality Bonty shoes. If you don't have a shoe with a sole, they make models with a little platform.

    Yes, they can unclip if you strike the bottom -- it is going to spread the blades apart. When I do this I generally start to fall over, so being unclipped isn't a bad thing as I see it. However, I usually strike the bottom of the crank arm rather than the pedal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    And I have been using my Joplin dropper remote for 4 years with no problems. I guess each one is different and it's just the luck of the draw.
    The virtue of the Joplin post is that it was designed by another company and re-badged by Crank Brothers.

    Their products have lovely packaging and novel design/ergonomics. But they are not built to be robust. They have lots of fans who use them gently but take them out of their comfort zone and their products fail catastrophically. I have a separated shoulder to prove it.

    Besides their pedals, I have also experienced the split clamp that does the OPPOSITE of what is promised. I've read about multi-tools which are ever so slightly off size. I have received pedal axels that were off size. Freehub bodies on $900 wheelsets spontaneously failing, crank arms shearing off, cleats that only last half a season .... yadda, yadda, yadda.

    I wouldn't trust Crank Brothers for anything, not when there are alternative providers with much higher quality offerings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    I’ve got just under 8,000 miles on a set of Crank Brother Candy “C” pedals. Sure, I had to re-pack the spindles with Phil Wood Hub Grease three times, but otherwise no complaints. I should mention that I regularly ride on some rocky-ass technical stuff on a fully-rigid bike (2009 11th Anniversary Edition Surly 1x1 “Rat Ride”) with this particular set of pedals too.
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    I had a conversation with a tech and he warned me about using them in the wet. Like, road riding in the rain. Is that Crank Brothers fault? If they don't put stickers on their fancy boxes warning you not to use the pedals in wet conditions ... yes.

    There is a warning on their Mallet Pedals warning you not to use certain types of Loc-Tite on their Mallet Pedals. They must of finally got sued. Of course if they manufactured their product with precise tolerances, users would not have to add more loctite to keep the traction pins in place.

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    The only cb product I have is the 19 multi tool...and it drives me absolutely insane that the chain break tool doesn't tighten against the body of the tool. When it is tight, it sticks out at a 35 degree angle, so I wind up leaving it loose and folding one of the other tools over it to hold it in place. That is just bad engineering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
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    For the record, Times, which IMO seem to have the biggest, strongest following, can also unclip you from bottom strikes.
    This only applies to the X-Roc pedal line, not the traditional ATACs.

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    I have a pair of Candy's and a pair of SL's. Both now have play in the bearings from half a season of riding on each. I only use them for commuting now. Don't trust them on the trail. I "almost" bought a CB headset but read too many negative reviews. The only other CB product I have is a pair of Split Lever Skewers and I absolutely hate those things.

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    been using eggbeaters for the last 3 seasons on 4 bikes. broke a wing when i hit the pedal against a rock. hard. my fault.

    other than that - trouble free...

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    I won't be buying anymore CB stuff after my last issue with them. I had bought a set of 5050xx pedals, my old 5050x set lasted a long time, they have bushings. After a two rides on the xx pedals, I had a clicking sound on every revolution. Assuming it was my bottom bracket, not my brand new (and not cheap) pedals, I put in a new BB. Figured out it was the left pedal. Sent them back to CB with a detailed email regarding my concerns about the pedals. They have interchangeable plates and these had to be hammered in and out with a rubber mallet. The slid out easily on my 5050xs. They sent me back the pedals with a card that said they got the "Spa treatment" . They checked off that they had done bearings in the left pedal. They never addressed my other concerns and I sent them a few emails asking about the plates, whether or not they checked the other pedal, etc. I never got a reply, so I gave up. You also need proprietary tools to service the pedals, which sucks IMO. I bought a set of Straitlines and love them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    been using eggbeaters for the last 3 seasons on 4 bikes. broke a wing when i hit the pedal against a rock. hard. my fault.

    other than that - trouble free...
    I remember when you were claiming that certain models of the ellsworth bikes weren't cracking, so users posted up the pics of their bikes, addressed to you. Actually, you are one of the biggest reasons I made that ellsworth-collage of cracked frames. Not that bikes don't crack, but they had some specific issues to be addressed, which you denied up and down. Haha. Good stuff.
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    Well, I guess the only good thing I can say about Crank Bros products is that their regular failures allows a slow out of shape rider like me to stay in touch with the faster guys on group rides when a broken CB part brings them to a stop.

    Nice concept & style, the execution on the other hand is pretty half-baked.

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    I won't buy anything but CB pedals. I have CB pedals on the 3 road and 4 mtb's in the collection. Two pairs are on at least year 3 with pretty heavy use. Only issue I've ever had was smashing a spindle on a road and bending it a little. Have never serviced any of them either which is the surprising part.
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    Yes. Same quality as the stuff on super cheap bikes, just cool paint/name and the crankbrothers logo
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    I've had 3 pairs of eggbeaters. Total crap compared to the atacs I now use. My second pair of EB literally came apart on my road bike.

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    I'm going to update my reply from August.

    I am done with CB pedals. As they start to go out, I'm switching to Time pedals. Done. Over.

    I'm tired of breaking them or wearing out prematurely.

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    Seeing all this post regarding (most of them) about the poor QC in their pedals, what about their handlebars?
    Specifically the cobal carbon (11), any user experiences? For agressive XC (no drops) and racing.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Seeing all this post regarding (most of them) about the poor QC in their pedals, what about their handlebars?
    Specifically the cobal carbon (11), any user experiences? For agressive XC (no drops) and racing.

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    It's not QC, it's design. Bushings for pedal bearings, ultra-thin races with the headsets, my multi-tool that is made out of russian submarine steel, so it rusts like crazy, the design of the kronos seatpost was downright comic, etc. This list could go on and on. The CB products usually have a feature to "hook" you, such as pedals lighter than anyone else, but then are severely underdesigned in many other areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Seeing all this post regarding (most of them) about the poor QC in their pedals, what about their handlebars?
    Specifically the cobal carbon (11), any user experiences? For agressive XC (no drops) and racing.

    Thanks!

    I have had a pair on my singlespeed for the last year....nice bars.....considering how much pulling I have done to them, and I am definately not taking it easy on them...no problems. Actually want to replace the CB Sage bar on the Tallboy with the Cobalt 11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Seeing all this post regarding (most of them) about the poor QC in their pedals, what about their handlebars?
    Specifically the cobal carbon (11), any user experiences? For agressive XC (no drops) and racing.!
    As a general rule, if a Crank Bros. product has more than one part, it's going to have issues. The handlebar is probably fine, I haven't seen or heard of any mass breakages but personally I still wouldn't get one on general principle. I refuse to support a company which makes so many disposable products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Seeing all this post regarding (most of them) about the poor QC in their pedals, what about their handlebars?
    Specifically the cobal carbon (11), any user experiences? For agressive XC (no drops) and racing.

    Thanks!
    I run these bars on my Salsa FS, and 2 years of severe AZ abuse have put some gouges in them, but they work fine. I run Candy pedals on one bike, and they are fine, no issues. I also had 2 multi tools, but they both somehow removed themselves from my tailpack within a couple of weeks of each other, so I cannot really comment. We don't have rust here, so I also cannot comment on Russian submarine steel either!
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    I'm one of the few users who have had great success using CB pedals. I started with a set of smarty pedals in 2007 or 2008 and I wore the bearing/bushing out, but I could still ride them today if I wanted. They won't be as smooth, but they work great. Another set lasted five years until I broke a wing. I replaced the wing and the bearings and they are still going strong. I no longer buy a rebuild kit. I just get a new set of candy pedals for 30 bucks and move on when I do wear them out, which seems to take me years.

    I've also had friends smash CB pedals on 1 ride by having a very hard rock strike and others will wear out leaving you coming unclipped.
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    My experiences with Crank Brothers products have been less than desirable. Fortunately, their customer service is good!

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    I've a set of the cheapest eggbeaters that I've been riding for two seasons now with no issues. Being in Alaska, I end up in some pretty gnarly mud and muck, snow and ice, and they've held up great.

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    I had their mutli-tool and that thing broke trying to fix my chain.

    The Kronlog looked cool but I think everyone's has broken.
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    I got soem new BMX pedals from CrankBros and they are terrible.


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    Make sure your dental insurance is up to date before you use a CB handlebar.
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    Much as I detest most of their products, I went against my better judgement and bought one of their multi-tools on discount.

    Given my opinion of CB, I was half expecting it to have crap tolerances and strip screw heads, or to simply disintegrate into a pile of rust within half a year.

    Surprisingly, it's been one of the best tools I've owned- it's got all the right bits on it (for me), it's comfortable to use and my sample has tolerances that work. I chose the m10 as anything larger starts including things which I think do not belong on a multi-tool (e.g. a chain tool, which should be a separate piece).

    Would I buy CB for anything else? Maybe for some non-critical accessory that looked pretty, but not for anything that I could result in injury if it broke. I'm still waiting for reports of the first generation of stems and handlebars to start self destructing.

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    I did the same and bought a CB17. It had the features I needed in a tool for the right price.

    It works as intended with no major issues. It is very cheap stainless though and is developing a lot of rust. But most other multi-tools develop rust over time too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    I did the same and bought a CB17. It had the features I needed in a tool for the right price.

    It works as intended with no major issues. It is very cheap stainless though and is developing a lot of rust. But most other multi-tools develop rust over time too...

    The park ones don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aBicycle View Post
    The park ones don't.
    And thats why I bought a park multi tool.

    So far, I've never used any thing park that isnt amazing
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    WAG-5 dishing tool isn't too hot... but I digress.

    Just bought some Candy 2s as my first foray into the world of SPD/Clipless. I was told they are easy to get into and out of. I don't want to eat asphalt on my first spin round the block.

    Did I do bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Goldenberg View Post
    WAG-5 dishing tool isn't too hot... but I digress.

    Just bought some Candy 2s as my first foray into the world of SPD/Clipless. I was told they are easy to get into and out of. I don't want to eat asphalt on my first spin round the block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Goldenberg View Post
    WAG-5 dishing tool isn't too hot... but I digress.

    Just bought some Candy 2s as my first foray into the world of SPD/Clipless. I was told they are easy to get into and out of. I don't want to eat asphalt on my first spin round the block.

    Did I do bad?
    FYI - You will eat asphalt, but that would happen regardless of the clipless pedal you choose.

    I love the action on CB pedals. I particularly need the float they offer for my knees. I switched to SPD for a brief period and my knees were not happy. I would try Times, but have not felt like making the investment yet. I moved closer to the switch when I broke my second pedal spindle in September.

    My Joplin 4 is still working great, though. As are the ones on two of my buddies' bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Goldenberg View Post
    WAG-5 dishing tool isn't too hot... but I digress.

    Just bought some Candy 2s as my first foray into the world of SPD/Clipless. I was told they are easy to get into and out of. I don't want to eat asphalt on my first spin round the block.

    Did I do bad?
    Yes and no. They are easy in that they don't require a lot of "force" and that they are "smooth". They require you to twist your heel a certain amount of degrees before they will release. On the other hand, they will absolutely not release until this point, no matter how hard you yank. This has it's good points and bad points. Sometimes they can be a little tricky to get into if the mechanism happens to be at just the right spot, as your foot will kind of "roll" off the pedal, and the crankbrother's cleats are known to wear down fairly fast, which will eventually lead to unplanned and inconsistent releases.

    You probably wont "eat asphalt" though, because their mechanism works very similar to the pedal company Time, although time's aren't susceptible to releasing if the bottom of the pedal hits a rock like CBs. The pedals work essentially like the Times and those are very popular. Not everyone has problems with the CBs immediately self destructing, and their customer service usually has been good, it's just that some of us got tired of having to use it. I suggest if you like the mechanism and how it feels and later down the road they break or have to be replaced, then buy Times. Same entry-exit feel and basic operation, far better quality and design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    I'd have to say no, they don't suck. Maybe I've just been lucky IDK, but there must be some truths to so many people not liking their quality.
    For the record, Times, which IMO seem to have the biggest, strongest following, can also unclip you from bottom strikes.
    Times can't unclip from bottom strikes, the two sides retention bars move independently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi View Post
    This only applies to the X-Roc pedal line, not the traditional ATACs.
    Not even the X-Rocs will unclip with a bottom strike. I had regular ATACs (yellow plastic plate) for ~10 years, and now have X-Roc S...same exact mechanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aBicycle View Post
    The park ones don't.
    You should see how much rust my Park TP dispenser has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocop View Post
    I like componets made by just about everyone, but damn their stuff has let me down. Used Eggbeaters a bit back to save weight, but the bushing/bearings lasted less than a season and would forcibly eject me on pedal strikes. I recently picked up the 65.00 "Split Lever Seatpost clamp" purely for it's cool asthetics and color combo. Yes.....65.00 for a post clamp. Pure junk. Mine wouldn't clamp a wooden broom handle to a peg board. Super weak, plastic binder nut, just totally crappy.

    Only if you are over 200# I don't think any of their stuff is made for heavy riders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    You should see how much rust my Park TP dispenser has.
    Thats splatter

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    I've bought a bunch of their stuff and have been quite happy.

    Iodine rims- I've beaten them to hell and back and they're going strong.
    Cobalt rims- I beat them to hell.. and then bought the Iodines (#220 and lack finesse) But they did good for a long time.
    (3) different multitools. All have been great without any issues at all.
    Joplin seat post- Years old and still going strong. No issues.
    Multiple sets of egg beaters. They've never let me down or broken.

    On the note of pedal strikes and pedals releasing. I've only had this happen twice in 4 years. Don't hit rocks with your pedals. You're not supposed to.

    I haven't had any issues with bearings, broken springs, anything of the sort.

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    Yes Crank Brothers stuff is crap, this is a fact.

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    I just broke my third CB pedal axle last week. I think it's time to try some Times. I'm hoping the float will be similar to CB because my knees hate SPD.

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    How are you breaking so many pedals? I've been riding them for 6yrs, weigh over **cough** 215lbs and have never broken a single pedal.

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    I don't know, I have Eggbeater 3 pedals with 2200 miles on them, and they work and look like new. I just keep them clean and greased them once as recommended. And I see a lot of other guys with eggbeaters especially here lately.

    I'm thinking that maybe the cheaper ones that don't hold up. Anyway, I love mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbell View Post
    How are you breaking so many pedals? I've been riding them for 6yrs, weigh over **cough** 215lbs and have never broken a single pedal.
    I have no idea. I weigh 185 and I don't consider myself a hard rider. I don't jump any big stuff. But the facts remain. I keep breaking these pedals. This last one did strike a log (not a rock) as I rolled over, but the other two broke without impact.

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    I'm using one of their handle bars. Seems ok to me. I've not had any issues. It's aluminum and it does what it's supposed to do. Maybe if it was carbon it would be a different story.

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