Ditched the CamelBak

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  • 10-03-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    Ditched the CamelBak
    So I finally put a bottle cage on my mountain bike and got a pack to hang under my seat. What made me do this was the fact that it got pretty cold and windy on my local trails today and since I sweat like a crackhead, I usually get damp with sweat under my Camelbak. When the cold wind blows...it can make riding that much more uncomfortable..and cold.
    Anyway, I noticed I enjoyed the change. Having all that weight on the bike rather than on me, seemed to lower the center of gravity and I felt I could handle noticeably better. Also, I had no weight on my back I felt I could get squirlier as well with my upper body.
    I know this a no-brainer for some people who race but for those who have only used the Camelbak, bottles and saddle bags offer a different riding experience.
    I will concede,however, that for epic rides, a CamelBak cannot be beat. Just my $0.02.
  • 10-03-2012
    EmbraceTheHate
    O noticed I'm a lot more comfortable without one on my back. I don't wear one if its only 6 miles or so. When I raced gnccs on dirt bikes I started out with a camelback and noticed it was just a pita. Left it off and was much more comfortable.

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  • 10-04-2012
    Ze_Zaskar
    I'm also using less the blader, even if I still carry the backpack. A bottle is so much easy to clean. Bladers are always a PITA to clean and keep them that way. I only use them on serious +40 miles rides
  • 10-04-2012
    Call_me_Tom
    I'll probably never give up my Camelbak. I only put water in it so I don't have cleaning issues & it doubles as a carrier for tools & spare tubes.
  • 10-04-2012
    edubfromktown
    Congrats.

    I only use a Camelback on really long rides where there is not reliable water source and when it is less than 40 degrees out (so that I can pack items to deal with mechanical issues that require more than a few minutes to fix and avoid freezing my arse off).
  • 10-04-2012
    marpilli
    I only take my camelback on the longer rides these days. I just put an insulated water bottle in the bottle cage and I have a 'minimalist' seat pack.
  • 10-04-2012
    jearl
    I too just added a cage last month. I still use the camelpak on long rides but for the short lunch rides it saves me the weight and time.
  • 10-04-2012
    AZ
    I only use one on rides over three hours, and then only if there is no readily available water to refill bottles.
  • 10-04-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    I just think it's liberating to not have that extra 5-10 lbs on your back. Feels like how riding a bike should be. They make extra large bottles that fit into conventional cages. I might look into one of those.
  • 10-04-2012
    mtnbikej
    Yup......ditches the hydration pack about 3 years ago. Water bottles on rides up to 3 hours. 2 cages on the bike......if I feel the need, I may throw a 20 oz bottle in my jersey pocket.

    Foun I was carrying a pack with 100 oz of water plus a bunch of crap that I didn't need, even on short rides. Would get done with a 2 hr ride and there would still be 70 oz of water in the bladder. No sense in carrying 8 lbs of water I wasn't going to drink.

    Plus I feel way more comfortable standing on the singlespeed without the pack.

    Does feel funny now when I do have to wear it.
  • 10-04-2012
    customfab
    I hate hydration packs with a passion, but sometimes they are a necessary evil. I don't cary a saddle bag either. I take all of that crap and place it into a ziploc bag and it goes in my center jersey pocket.
  • 10-04-2012
    ronyc
    I also carry my camelbak on longer rides, on short ones I use this CamelBak Delaney Plus Hydration Lumbar Pack - 153cu in | Backcountry.com
  • 10-04-2012
    applehead110
    I too have ditched the camelback except for rides that are 2+ hours. I use a large water bottle and pack with enough room for a tube and levers on short rides.
  • 10-04-2012
    TheMachinist
    Interesting. I bought a Camelbak because I would run out of water on long rides. These days my rides rarely break and hour and a half.

    I use my Camelbak mostly for tools, spare tube, cameras and a saw for impromptu trail clearing. I could probably reconfigure to fit most stuff in an underseat pack, but I have always hated the rattling of tools in a bike-mounted bag. I'm the guy who carries lots of tools to avoid getting stranded. I also don't mind having extra water in case I were to crash and be incapacitated for a while.

    My shoulders could sure use a break though.
  • 10-04-2012
    EmbraceTheHate
    I also have first aid in my camelbak.

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  • 10-04-2012
    Le Pirate
    I usually end up with both the camelbak and a water bottle. H20 in the pack, and a electrolyte drink in the bottle...I've often ran out of both in the Texas heat. Also carry a tube or 2, my blackburn minipump, and a couple tools in the bag. And basic first aid stuff.

    Even with all of that though, it's pretty dang light...Not even enough to hardly notice IMO
  • 10-04-2012
    mtbzarg
    I only use my camelbak on longer rides or if the weather is a little warm for my liking. Otherwise I only use a water bottle.
  • 10-04-2012
    Velorangutan
    I ditched the camelback years ago. It's cooler in the summer and not having weight on my back seems to help my achy back. I usually have two waterbottle mounts. If I need more I'll stick a small bottle in my back jersey pocket. Once the first bottle runs out I'll swap that one in my jersey pocket.
  • 10-04-2012
    bclagge
    I feel naked without my Camelbak. Plus the unfortunate times that I've landed flat on my back made me glad to have it. :D
  • 10-04-2012
    Cormac
    I prefer the convenience of the tube to drink from. Having to steer and pedal is a bit much while reaching below me for a drink. Maybe I'm just not coordinated enough for a drink holder. I do have a cage on the road bike however.
  • 10-04-2012
    textatt
    One thing that can mess a ride up is running out of water. The extra weight is well worth the peace of mind knowing that if something does go wrong I still got water.
  • 10-04-2012
    sooshee
    I've ditched mine, too. I hated riding with all that weight on my back. I'm sure I'll use it on super long rides, but for 99% of my rides I do just fine without it. I have a bottle cage. Only thing I sometimes wish is that I had a place to mount a second bottle cage on my bike :(
  • 10-04-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sooshee View Post
    I've ditched mine, too. I hated riding with all that weight on my back. I'm sure I'll use it on super long rides, but for 99% of my rides I do just fine without it. I have a bottle cage. Only thing I sometimes wish is that I had a place to mount a second bottle cage on my bike :(

    That is my problem too! My full suspension only has enough holes for one cage!
  • 10-04-2012
    sooshee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    That is my problem too! My full suspension only has enough holes for one cage!

    I might get some bungee cords and see if I can attach a second bottle to the back of my seat post. Not sure how well it'd work, but it's worth a try.
  • 10-04-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    I saw one on the tour de wyoming that someone had that wrapped around the outside of the cage itself and held A LOT of water. Tried to find it on the internet but I can't!
  • 10-04-2012
    2Slo4U
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sooshee View Post
    I might get some bungee cords and see if I can attach a second bottle to the back of my seat post. Not sure how well it'd work, but it's worth a try.

    no need for bungee cords. Specialized makes some clamps that will attach to your seatpost. Works great unless you have a dropper post. Oh, and if your seat post is larger than 31.9 I think your SOL. I used them on a 27.2 seatpost, cut some tubes up to help them fit.
  • 10-04-2012
    wmac
    Only use mine if I'm riding more than one 24oz bottle in distance.
  • 10-04-2012
    schoolisbad1
    I bring no water because it weighs too much
  • 10-05-2012
    motopail
    OK.... My deal, I use a fanny pack. The camel bak is nice when it's 104 out, but other wise I carry my water in the fanny pack with tools, food, and such.

    I've always been told to keep the weight off the bike.

    The fanny back rides low on my hips, hardly know it's there.
  • 10-05-2012
    wmac
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by schoolisbad1 View Post
    I bring no water because it weighs too much

  • 10-05-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by motopail View Post
    OK.... My deal, I use a fanny pack. The camel bak is nice when it's 104 out, but other wise I carry my water in the fanny pack with tools, food, and such.

    I've always been told to keep the weight off the bike.

    The fanny back rides low on my hips, hardly know it's there.

    I'd rather have that little extra weight off of my body and on the bike. I, myself, will have to propel all of that weight anyway. I also would rather have that weight sit low than up high. To each his/her own though!
  • 10-05-2012
    PretendGentleman
    I like that my camelback protects my spine. If I go on a short ride I'll often fill up a couple extra water bottles and stick them inside to make the ride feel longer and to make the hills more substantial. I like to bring plenty of tools with me. 2 Spare tubes, spare hanger, spare derailleur, needle nose pliers, assortment of zip ties, extra sealant, cell phone, wallet, keys, toilet paper, rain jacket, arm and leg warmers, multi-tool, full sized 5mm allen for straightening hanger(saved me many times).

    I want to get one of those portable cassette removal tools, as I've definitely had to walk a few miles because my hanger got bent and my chain became mega stuck behind the cassette (thank lob for the pie plate that protected my spokes).

    I'm not into racing as when I've raced I find it makes me think of every ride as a training ride and that leads to me enjoying it less. Much of my work is with developing statistics and new algorithms to estimate them, so ignoring numbers when I'm on the bike is a relief. But if I wanted to go extra fast and efficient, I would try to lose as much of that weight as possible, and if the mileage allowed, I'd abandon my camelback too. But for the regular rides that are 99.999% of my riding, I like to be ready for almost any concievable contingency.
  • 10-05-2012
    weaverwins
    What about those with dropper posts? Where else could u store your tools/tube than a camelback?
  • 10-05-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by weaverwins View Post
    What about those with dropper posts? Where else could u store your tools/tube than a camelback?

    They make all sorts of packs you can put on different locations on your bike's frame tubes. I am not saying ditching Camelbaks is always the best for everyone, but for me personally, if I am going under 10 miles in warm weather, I can fit all I need in my pack and my one large 33 oz water bottle. I enjoy the "light" feeling I have without 8 lbs of junk on my upper back. But like I said, to each his/her own. That's the great thing about mountain biking is you do what suits you best.
  • 10-05-2012
    weaverwins
    I prefer to run minimal. Only xc race i did, ran a water bottle and no tools and loved it. Just trying to figure out the best method to go that route but keep a tube, super glue, multitool all with me as well.

    Ride solo a lot so ill likely camel then so i have my phone with me.
  • 10-05-2012
    applehead110
    By ditchng the Camelback for shorter rides you are acutally losing weigh. On average a Camelbak can weigh arounts 6-10 lbs where as a water bottle and seat pack weigh arount 2-3 lbs. On longer rides (time wise) and/or hot days I think carrying a Camelback is essential sometimes with a water bottle as well.
  • 10-05-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by weaverwins View Post
    I prefer to run minimal. Only xc race i did, ran a water bottle and no tools and loved it. Just trying to figure out the best method to go that route but keep a tube, super glue, multitool all with me as well.

    Ride solo a lot so ill likely camel then so i have my phone with me.

    No, I hear ya. If you Google 'bike pouches' you will see all sorts of clever bags to put on your bike. In my little seat post bag I am able to fit 1 tube, Co2 pump and cartridge, crank brothers multi-tool, 1 contact lense (just in case i have contact issues) and my cell phone. It was a Walmart special for $15. It's packed tight but does the job.
    This is only when I am riding a shorter ride on trails I know l like the back of my hand. Epic rides get the full CamelBak treatment.
  • 10-05-2012
    mtnbikej
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by weaverwins View Post
    What about those with dropper posts? Where else could u store your tools/tube than a camelback?

    What's a dropper post????


    Don't use one so it is not a problem.























    And yes, I know what a dropper post is.
  • 10-05-2012
    geraldooka
    Fortunately it rarely gets hot enough around here to make a backpack uncomfortable, pack all the way. The lower center of gravity does make sense but I still prefer the bike to weigh as little as possible.

    Water
    First aid
    Tube
    Patch kit
    Multi tool
    Pump
    Snacks
    Map
    Compass
    Phone
    Camera - if I'm so inclined
    Emergency blanket - depending on ride

    I will be adding zip ties that's a great idea! Maybe some strong tape.

    I should also mention that I to have been happy to have the bag on after a coupe if tumbles.
  • 10-05-2012
    weaverwins
    I will never go back to a regular post. Its the biggest mtb part to come out in a long time.
  • 10-05-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geraldooka View Post
    Fortunately it rarely gets hot enough around here to make a backpack uncomfortable, pack all the way. The lower center of gravity does make sense but I still prefer the bike to weigh as little as possible.

    Water
    First aid
    Tube
    Patch kit
    Multi tool
    Pump
    Snacks
    Map
    Compass
    Phone
    Camera - if I'm so inclined
    Emergency blanket - depending on ride

    I will be adding zip ties that's a great idea! Maybe some strong tape.

    I should also mention that I to have been happy to have the bag on after a coupe if tumbles.

    To me the advantage of ditching the CamelBak is more clear in the cold. If I am riding hard in the cold my back gets damp with sweat under my CamelBak (I sweat like Charlie Sheen going a day without some blow). When the harsh wind blows on a wet back, it sucks. I live in Wyoming though so that is probably not a problem for most if you.
  • 10-05-2012
    weaverwins
    F it. Im trying this out tomorrow. Post strap is loose and rubs no more than a ziptie or oring on a fork id say.

  • 10-05-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    ^Be sure to report back! ^
  • 10-05-2012
    ImaginaryFriend
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cormac View Post
    I prefer the convenience of the tube to drink from. Having to steer and pedal is a bit much while reaching below me for a drink. Maybe I'm just not coordinated enough for a drink holder. I do have a cage on the road bike however.

    Interestingly enough, I'm just the opposite. I ride XC and my breathing rate is always so high that it messes with trying to get enough water out of the tube. It's so much easier for me to gulp down a bunch of water from one big squeeze of the bottle between breaths.

    I'm right handed and I can easily steer with my left and grab the bottle with my right. If I try the opposite hands I fumble for the bottle and feel like I'm going to run off the trail.:arf:
  • 10-05-2012
    njiplex
    i ditched the camelback also. I do short rides on a small loop so a water bottle and seatbag are enough for me.
  • 10-05-2012
    Blurr
    I like having a pack but generally do not use a bladder except for longer rides, I hydrate well the day before and at least a couple hours before I leave so a single bottle usually lasts me a short ride.
  • 10-06-2012
    TiGeo
    I have gone back and forth over the years. I am actually considering doing a bottle and the gear in the jersey pocket again just to feel that "freedom" of not having the weight on your back. But honestly, you can't beat the drink-on-demand ability of a hydration pack. I also like the minimalist look of straps that you just strap the tube etc. to your seat/seatpost with.
  • 10-06-2012
    Johnnydrz
    During summer, if I want to drink something, I don't have much choice but to wear my camelbak. My bottles are for my dog(s). During winter, they eat snow as we go. I use the new LR version so there is no sloshing water as I move.


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  • 10-06-2012
    TiGeo
    I put a new Elite cage on my bike today and ordered an Awesome Strap. Sometimes its nice to change it up. I do like the feeling of not having something on my back.
  • 10-06-2012
    weaverwins
    Weather in the 60s and i rolled with no camelbak. Saddle bag was fine on the drop post. Gonna be running this setup as much as possible while its not tx summer weather