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    Deore - what does it mean?

    So I've searched the internet and have not found any answer: What does Deore mean?
    Was it a word Shimano made up? Maybe meaning of/from ore? The early components has a deer's head on them, maybe it was a creative spelling of deer? Anybody got a clue?

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    Great question. I've wondered for years and I still don't know.

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    Bam!

    For a word with so many uses, "darling" turns out to have a remarkably simple origin. "Darling" is simply derived from the Old English word "deor" or "deore," meaning "beloved or dear." (As you must suspect by now, that same "deor" also gave us our modern word "dear.") The "ling" ending in this case means "one who is," so "deorling" and today's "darling" simply mean "one who is dear."
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    So there you have it - "darling" components.

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    not sure if it correlates

    but... in Shimanos fishing group all of their 'casting' rods/reels have a name starting with the letter 'C' all of their spinning rods reels have a name starting with the letter 'S'

    I thought it may be 'Deore' - 'D' - derailluer but the more I looked and there is XT XTR etc and of course Road and Mtb components they may have started down that path and gave up quickly.. but started with Deore ...???

    I thought it used to be deore LX, Deore XT, not into this long enough to know if their road groups ever had a name starting with an R or not.

    It just seems plausable that they started the same process and then abandoned it

    But as I understood it from a Shimano Rep (fishing gear) there was no rhyme or reason for the name on the gear other than words starting with a 'C" or and 'S'

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    From a totally speculative, and quite un-PC angle (I'm asian, so I can get away with it):

    Early Shimano MTB components featured a Deer Head as part of the logo. Perhaps when it came time to actually name the product lines, one enginneer looked at another and asked, "Well, what do you call this animal in English?"

    The result? All your component are belong to us.

    LX as a designation for higher quality may have been a carryover from the Japanese auto industry.

    XT - no idea. eXTra? eXtra Tough?

    XTR - definitely stands for XT Race. Documented in a number of places.

    @new2this: Shimano's internal parts nomenclature definitely uses M and R to distinguish between mountain and road components, e.g. PD-M737: PD = Pedals, M = mountain, 737 = one of the iterations of Deore XT. Not as consistent with the road lines, as you tend to see 4 digit numbers like 6403 and 7700, but some of the oddball, non-family stuff uses an R, like R600 being used to denote compact cranks, long-reach brake calipers, and compact (small-hand) STI levers - all of about Ultegra-level quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Eddie
    "Well, what do you call this animal in English?"

    Hah.

    I have always assumed a connection to "d'or" ("of gold") as in "Compasso d'Oro," "Palm d'Or," etc.

    Very early Shimano 105 groups ("Golden Arrow") used gold lettering for the name Shimano.

    Or not.

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    It's Japanese for "same as XT but less shiny."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat
    It's Japanese for "same as XT but less shiny."
    What about Deore XT? (the first group used them together).
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    Quote Originally Posted by johncox
    So I've searched the internet and have not found any answer: What does Deore mean?
    Was it a word Shimano made up? Maybe meaning of/from ore? The early components has a deer's head on them, maybe it was a creative spelling of deer? Anybody got a clue?
    Simple: Deore = Shimano mountain bike component group.
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    to 'de' something means to minus it (what ever it is...
    ex. deactivate = take away the activate..
    desensitize = take away sensitivity

    SO!! I hereby speculate that Deore means to take away the ore.
    You 'de-ore' a mine right?
    Mines are often in the mountains.
    MTB is in the mountains.
    Ore is often the root of metal.
    De-oring is taking away Metal.
    No metal for the mountain group-set.
    No metal = soft rock...

    In conclusion Deore = THIS
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    What about Deore XT? (the first group used them together).
    Well if we eliminate the spaces we get the word "deorext". Of course "deo" is a form of the latin word for God and "rex" is the latin word for king which leaves the phrase "God King T". This is of course referring to Mr. T which is obviously a reference to how Deore XT components don't like to get airborne

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    to 'de' something means to misus it (what ever it is...
    ex. deactivate = take away the activate..
    desensitize = take away sensitivity

    SO!! I hereby speculate that Deore means to take away the ore.
    You de-ore a mine right?
    mines are often in the mountains.
    MTB is in the mountains.
    Ore is often the root of metal.
    De-oring is taking away Metal.
    no metal for the mountain group-set.
    no metal = soft rock...

    In conclusion Deore = THIS

    haha that one is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    Well if we eliminate the spaces we get the word "deorext". Of course "deo" is a form of the latin word for God and "rex" is the latin word for king which leaves the phrase "God King T". This is of course referring to Mr. T which is obviously a reference to how Deore XT components don't like to get airborne
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    It's obvious -- 'Deore' is japanese slang for "one step better than department store crap"!
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    So I quess no one really
    knows what it means.

    Best, John

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    According to Heinrich Newmann, the author of Heretical Wisdom: Alchemy and Adversaries (1679), the more vulgar and lesser educated of the alchemists in the middle 15th century were known to pass off certain failed metallurgical experiments as successful creations. One of these supposed "failures" was a base metal that had been almost transformed into a rare metal. This creation gained popularity among the peasants that could not afford more precious metals to use. It gained the slang name dayarr which possibly was perverted into deore.

    Another interesting note is that dayarr was known to have been used in Feudal Japan for lower level samurai swords* - possible connection with Shimano? The numerical value of the word Deore equals 47. The most famous samurai tale ever? The 47 Ronin.

    Also on the topic of 47. I gleaned this from wikipedia:

    There exists a 47 society,[4] an outgrowth of a movement started at Pomona College, California, USA, which propagates the belief (or, to some, the inside joke) that the number forty-seven occurs in nature with noticeably higher frequency than other natural numbers, that it is the quintessential random number.[5] The origin of 47 lore at Pomona appears to be a mathematical proof, written in 1964 by Professor Donald Bentley, which supposedly demonstrated that all numbers are equal to 47

    *Hiroki Ijoke, The Lost History of European and Japanese Metallurgy (1972)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadHabit
    I have always assumed a connection to "d'or" ("of gold") as in "Compasso d'Oro," "Palm d'Or," etc.
    That's what I've always been told by many people in the industry. Deore = Gold. Despite the components of today, Deore was one of Shimano's best touring groups, and became their second best MTB group in the late 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    What about Deore XT? (the first group used them together).
    They still use them together, don't they? http://tinyurl.com/lvchfb

    I've always thought the connection with gold...
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