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    carbon bar query...

    Hello. im new to this forum and i have one question...

    is it ok to use bar ends with carbon handlebars?

    i look forward to posting here more and thank you in advance for your responses..

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    Easton addresses that question...

    ...on their website. It depends on the construction of the bar end you are considering, whether or not the clamp closes in line with the center of the handlebar section, or if it "pinches" with an off-center design. It's much easier to view Easton's diagram than to decipher what I just wrote.

    Then of course there is are the Truvative with aluminum end caps that allow any type of bar end to be used, regardless of clamp design.

    For other manufacturers consult their websites for specifics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f*nŠtik
    Then of course there is are the Truvative with aluminum end caps that allow any type of bar end to be used, regardless of clamp design.
    What I've read (not specifically in regard to the Truvativ bars) is that carbon bars with aluminum end caps can have the epoxy holding the end cap come loose due to the stresses put on bar ends. I have the aluminum caps on mine, but I don't feel like testing fate to put on bar ends. I've also seen bar ends that specifically say on the package that they're appropriate for use with carbon bars, but I can't remember the brand right now.
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    I've read that the Cane Creek Ergo bar-ends are approved by Easton for use on their carbon bars but not specific to any others. Does anyone know about the Answer ProTaper Carbons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prog_boy
    Hello. im new to this forum and i have one question...

    is it ok to use bar ends with carbon handlebars?

    i look forward to posting here more and thank you in advance for your responses..

    Shouldn't be a problem as long as the bar end clamps evenly onto the carbon fiber handlebar. I'm using a 26" wide Easton Monkeylite XC Riser bar with Avenir Titanium bar ends and it has worked wonderfully for 7 months now. You just have to be careful with installation of your components onto the handlebar and make sure u don't scuff or scratch things up. I used some sandpaper on the inside of the clamps to my bar ends and shifters to make sure there weren't any burs on them so it wouldn't scratch the handlebars.

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    The kind of bar end you can use depends on the bar you're using. I'm not sure about Easton or Answer but the LP Composites bar I had was fine with bar ends. There was a hard plastic insert in the ends of the bar.
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    you know schumacher? wow, i was forced to read a few chapters of small is beautiful a few years back,,,,read the entire book and nearly failed the class. explained what the reason i was behind, got to take the final of small is beautiful instead. reworking my way through, 'good work'

    right on man, great author, way ahead of his time, i would like to see the many of his ideas implemented, if someone had the guts to do so...

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    Thank you all for your responses...the specific bars that im looking into purchasing are the Sette fx/2 carbon riser bars...not the premier bars on the market by far, but still pretty good according to the reviews. The thing is, ive become VERY used to using bar ends and cant really see myself climbing without them...its just really comfortable...

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    My personal opinion, based on how carbon fiber fatigues, I don't think it's safe to use carbon fiber handlebars at all. I've had too many friends who wanted to save some weight, but ended up in the hospital when their carbon bars broke (in my case, it was when a carbon frame broke).

    Is saving a few grams really worth your health? Carbon technology is improving, but it's not there yet.

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    Actually carbon technology has been there for

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaster1200
    My personal opinion, based on how carbon fiber fatigues, I don't think it's safe to use carbon fiber handlebars at all. I've had too many friends who wanted to save some weight, but ended up in the hospital when their carbon bars broke (in my case, it was when a carbon frame broke).

    Is saving a few grams really worth your health? Carbon technology is improving, but it's not there yet.
    years. F1 cars are built out of carbon fiber, now is the bike industry using low buck garage built stuff or just a lower quality/under performing carbon is another story. I have carbon bars I wont use a carbon post. MBA mag just had anothe post break, two of my friends broke theirs to, and Im talking xc racers not freeride or urban riders or anything like that. I have thompson elite posts on all my three bikes.

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    Agreed, plus...

    Quote Originally Posted by moab63
    I have carbon bars I wont use a carbon post.
    ...carbon bars can be built for different qualities, i.e. maximize strength or minimize weight. Just peek at the cross sections of the bars in one of the recent mag ads.

    I'm a heavy guy and use a Easton CT-1 fpr a few years with bar ends with no troubles. I did eventually thrashcan it due to a gouge that I caught during an inspection, but I would have thrown out a thin aluminum bar with the same type of damage. No matter aluminum or CF, handlebar inspections are important. Either can fail if scratched deeply by shifters/levers/stems/etc., and just as a thin CF bar is more prone to failure than a thicker, heavier CF bar, a thin aluminum bar is will fail before a thicker, heavier aluminum bar.

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    I got Control Tech Stumpys..Easton reccomends them

    I couldnt find them anywhere on the net so I emailed control tech and they gave me this website: www.trident-sports-usa.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by moab63
    years. F1 cars are built out of carbon fiber, now is the bike industry using low buck garage built stuff or just a lower quality/under performing carbon is another story. I have carbon bars I wont use a carbon post. MBA mag just had anothe post break, two of my friends broke theirs to, and Im talking xc racers not freeride or urban riders or anything like that. I have thompson elite posts on all my three bikes.
    You are really making me rethink the brand new bars i just put on my bike. Havent even ridden them Yet (down the street and back) and i could swear i could feel them flex just playing around. Man I really like my teeth. Ive always been skeptical, but i figured the technology should have only gotten better right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaster1200
    My personal opinion, based on how carbon fiber fatigues, I don't think it's safe to use carbon fiber handlebars at all.

    Carbon technology is improving, but it's not there yet.
    Yeah, those carbon windsurfing masts that I started using 15+ years ago still need some work...

    Not to mention the carbon bars and seatposts that I've used for years...

    Or the carbon bikes that I've ridden at one time or another...

    Carbon is like any material. If used properly it can be made into a good product. Poor execution on the other hand...

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    Idea! If you want good carbon at a good price...

    Quote Originally Posted by prog_boy
    Thank you all for your responses...the specific bars that im looking into purchasing are the Sette fx/2 carbon riser bars...not the premier bars on the market by far, but still pretty good according to the reviews. The thing is, ive become VERY used to using bar ends and cant really see myself climbing without them...its just really comfortable...
    ...go with the Maxm Isogrid stuff. They're also rated to be safe for both cutting to size and bar ends, without voiding warranty.

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    Although I don't use bar ends, Maxm isogrid carbon bars are compatible with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prog_boy
    Thank you all for your responses...the specific bars that im looking into purchasing are the Sette fx/2 carbon riser bars...not the premier bars on the market by far, but still pretty good according to the reviews. The thing is, ive become VERY used to using bar ends and cant really see myself climbing without them...its just really comfortable...
    Where did you find the reviews for the bars. I've been trying to track some down for a while, but no such luck

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    I've got an Answer Pro Taper bar on my 5 Spot and I'm thinking about swapping it over for aluminium. It's already been scratched up a bit and I actually had an old Answer bar suddenly snap during a crash on my old RM Blizzard.

    Having said that I had been riding the Blizzard completely rigid (with a Kona P2 Steel fork) for about 8 months and I think the bar had taken a lot of punishment during that time.

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    Bar ends on a riser bar is just plain wrong...

    especially a carbon one. Go ahead if you really have to but it's just wrong. Don't get me started on carbon parts on a mountain bike.
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    I got the Performance bars....

    ... and FWIU, it's the same as the Sette bar. I got the flat ones. THey have alu plugs to reinforce the ends, and are bar end friendly. I suspect that the Sette risers are similar, if not the same OEM bar.

    Heck, you can always call them up and ask.

    BTW, the Performance bars are pretty dang nice, and light.

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    here we go again, another poster pushing his disdain for bar-end on a riser bar. if you don't like it than don't do it. I love my bar-ends. and yes, I have a riser bar. to each his/her own. That would be like me telling you that it's not cool to have a helmet that does not match your shoes...all about personal preference. Just ride the bike, wtf cares what parts someone else decides to use on their own bike.

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