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    New question here. Can cleat tension be adjusted on EGGBEATERS pedals?

    Can cleat tension be adjusted on any of the EGGBEATERS pedals? These are a great lightweight choice but I have been shying away because I set my cleat tension quite loose sometimes.
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    you cant change the tension but if you flip the cleats from the the left shoe to the right it will disengage at a wider angle

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    I would want to make them easier to get out of though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sklein
    I would want to make them easier to get out of though.
    There's no problem at all getting out of Crank Brothers pedals, they are very smooth in that respect. It really shouldn't be a problem unless something is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockdude14
    you cant change the tension but if you flip the cleats from the the left shoe to the right it will disengage at a wider angle
    Like the others have said there is NO tension adjustment. You get 2 options for float adjustment by flipping over the cleat. I don't think the tension adjustment is needed. I have been riding eggs for years and have never wanted to adjust the tension. Eggs are great especialy in the mud.

    If you like the idea of eggs but still want tension adjustment check out the time atac pedals. They work like eggs and I think they have adjustable tension. But I'm not sure.

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    If you like loose tension, trade your new cleats with another rider for his worn cleats.

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    After a couple of weeks bedding in (they are initially fairly stiff) , my eggbeaters disengage just right as they are. I've never got stuck in them, and never 'accidently' disengaged either, so I've never felt the urge to adjust them.

    Best spds I've used.

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    if you just got them the cleats may not have broken in yet

    the cleats will wear and become more easy to get out of

    any chance you shoe might be catching somewhere
    if so they come with some risers

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    The eggbeater design dosn't rely on spring tension to control disengagement, so there is no need for adjustable tension. They're far easier to get out of than Shimanos or Times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Oxmells
    Best spds I've used.
    They are most definitely not SPDs. SPD is a trademark name meaning Shimano Pedaling Dynamics.

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    Reading between the lines, it looks like you haven't bought them yet.

    I fitted a pair of Eggbeater SLs 2 days ago after riding for the last two years on Shimanos. Eggbeaters are MUCH easier to get out of than the Shimanos ever were, even on their lightest setting. You will not have any problems disengaging from the Eggbeaters if you are already riding Shimanos.

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    The idea that "if it doesn't have the adjustment, you don't need it" is pretty funny in of itself.

    After just a couple rides, eggbeaters would release way too easy for me, causing me to sometimes smash my knee into the stem or get ejected when the lower part of the pedal comes in contact with a rock. The cleats wear fast, but what is worse is that I could never release by twisting my foot inward, which happens sometimes. It's not the most common way to release, but in some situations I'd need to release in this way, and the eggbeaters just wouldn't do it. I tried lots of different positions and such. The eggbeaters are a minimalist product, for someone looking to lighten their ride. There are disadvantages, and not being able to adjust the release and inconsistant release are a few of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem
    The idea that "if it doesn't have the adjustment, you don't need it" is pretty funny in of itself.

    After just a couple rides, eggbeaters would release way too easy for me, causing me to sometimes smash my knee into the stem or get ejected when the lower part of the pedal comes in contact with a rock. The cleats wear fast, but what is worse is that I could never release by twisting my foot inward, which happens sometimes. It's not the most common way to release, but in some situations I'd need to release in this way, and the eggbeaters just wouldn't do it. I tried lots of different positions and such. The eggbeaters are a minimalist product, for someone looking to lighten their ride. There are disadvantages, and not being able to adjust the release and inconsistant release are a few of them.
    I'm a little curious as to what circumstances you were in where you had to disengage by twisting your heel inwards. I've never "had" to do this, and it seems like a generally bad idea (more likely to trap your heel/foot somewhere in your own bike!).

    Of course you are correct when you say that Eggbeaters have disadvantages, every product does. That said, I don't agree that "The eggbeaters are a minimalist product, for someone looking to lighten their ride.". That's too simplistic an answer. They are minimalistic, certainly, but the simplicity of the design gives great advantages (light weight, less likely to clog with muck, relatively easy to click in to and out of, etc.) I have used both Looks and SPDs before, and all I can say is that my three decent bikes (two road, one MTB) all have Eggbeaters on them.

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    That's right Kalgrm I have not bought them. My back up bike is my buddy's bike that he hasn't touched in 5 years. The whole bike and a pair of E-beetR's is (are) hanging on the wall of the garage but I haven't ridden them....I put my SPD -type Specialized pedals on.

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    I just switched from Shimano spd to egg beaters and I am having a real hard time clipping in. Does anyone have any idea how to make the engagement easier to lock in ?
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    use worn cleats

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperspeed View Post
    I just switched from Shimano spd to egg beaters and I am having a real hard time clipping in. Does anyone have any idea how to make the engagement easier to lock in ?
    Yes! buy some TIME pedals and "for git about it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperspeed View Post
    I just switched from Shimano spd to egg beaters and I am having a real hard time clipping in. Does anyone have any idea how to make the engagement easier to lock in ?
    Eggs are pretty much the easiest pedals to clip into (aside from the somewhat "vague" feeling), but only if you aren't having any interference issues with the lugs on the soles of your shoes, and there's nothing unusual about the distance of the cleat from your sole as it sits mounted on the bottom of your shoe. CB pedals come with black plastic spacers to add more distance if that's the problem, and lug interference can usually be solved with careful use of a knife, dremel, etc. to remove a bit of material from lugs so that the pedal's retention bars can easily get up into the pocket of space in between the lugs to interface with the cleat.

    The best way to start analyzing is to get off the bike, take off your shoe, and manipulate it in/out of the pedal with your hands a few times, watching closely for any of the aforementioned issues both during engagement and after clipped in. Note that getting a show to clip in with your hands instead of body weight isn't always the easiest thing to do! You may have to clip in, then take your foot out of your shoe while it is still engaged to get off your bike and check things out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperspeed View Post
    I just switched from Shimano spd to egg beaters and I am having a real hard time clipping in. Does anyone have any idea how to make the engagement easier to lock in ?
    worn cleats can help a bit and I remember seeing pre-worn new cleats for sale somewhere but can't remember where.
    -As the springs on the pedals get worn/used they become more forgiving.
    -The cleat may be too deep into your shoe. A shim under the cleat will make it stick out further and may be your only issue. And/or maybe remove some lug/material from the shoe if it's interfering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circlip View Post
    Eggs are pretty much the easiest pedals to clip into except for TIME.
    Fixed it for ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Fixed it for ya.
    S'ok, I have lots of time riding both. I called it like I see it, no fixes required.

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    Awesome =) thanks everyone for the advice you all are great
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    Quote Originally Posted by joloughl View Post
    I'm a little curious as to what circumstances you were in where you had to disengage by twisting your heel inwards. I've never "had" to do this, and it seems like a generally bad idea (more likely to trap your heel/foot somewhere in your own bike!).
    On instance that happened to me. I was climbing a tight switchback and lost balance and fell to my left. Lying on my left side it was very difficult to release my right foot from the pedal in the position I was in. I only managed to by twisting inward and that was awkward. This happened to my twice and thus I switched back to Shimano.

    I will say that I like the float of my CB pedals but that's about it. I know the OP was asking about eggbeater, but my experience is with Candy and Candy II which have very similar if not the same mechanism. Loose bearings after less than 10 rides, poor disengagement in awkward situations. I'll take the added weight of SPD's (any version) over CB.

    EDIT: Damn, I just noticed this is an 8 year old thread. Oh well, I still stand by my comment.

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    eggbeaters suck.

    put your spd pedals back on and just dial down the spring tension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    -As the springs on the pedals get worn/used they become more forgiving.
    nope. the bars of the body assembly will start to wear to the point of rendering the pedal useless long before the spring will begin to weaken.

    the soft brass cleat is what wears making entry/exit "more forgiving".
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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperspeed View Post
    Awesome =) thanks everyone for the advice you all are great
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    that was probably directed at those who gave useful and accurate advice.

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    Could you please stop following me and others around with your stupid negative, think you know it all bs, it's getting old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
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    Lol hahaha, they were right, you're like a disease that some get inflicted with, like scabbies. At least you recognize that you follow people around, as explained, since you knew I was talking to you. And no surprise you'd turn to drugs for a fix. Or should I say another fix.
    How many members are you going to quote and use out of context in a negative and derogative way as a sig? You think you're funny but you're really sad.
    It's too bad you don't get that education doesn't equate to intelligence. It's too bad because you do have knowledge, and can be somewhat cool sometimes. Until someone disagrees with you, then you become a spoiled brat who didn't get his way again. Too predictable. Armchair this, epic fail that, how many times are you going to use these, so tired.
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    Wouldn't life be great with a hassle free pedal. Oh wait there is a design like that. I've been running TIMES for 14 years hassle free. My TIME atac-xc Titanium / Carbons have been going since 2008' hassle free. When I purchased them I set the little side float clicker to my desired setting using a dime and haven't touched them since. >>>Insert 5 stars here<<<<

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    Ya know DJ Times definitely have the strongest following. When one my bikes Crank Bros pedals finally fail, I'll have to give them a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Wouldn't life be great with a hassle free pedal. Oh wait there is a design like that. I've been running TIMES for 14 years hassle free. My TIME atac-xc Titanium / Carbons have been going since 2008' hassle free. When I purchased them I set the little side float clicker to my desired setting using a dime and haven't touched them since. >>>Insert 5 stars here<<<<

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    I was never a fan of SPDs (just personal preference), used Eggbeaters for many years. Any "time" your foot comes down on a rock on EBs (it only happens when it's a really bad spot, of course) the top bars spread allowing your foot to come out. Switched to Time pedals a few years ago and have been very happy with the fact that this isn't an issue, they are solidly built for the abuse I give them, the cleats don't seem to wear as badly and they, like the EBs, have plenty of float + some side to side movement available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat
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    that delusional rant certainly solidified a few irrefutable points:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Wouldn't life be great with a hassle free pedal. Oh wait there is a design like that.
    to be fair though, eggbeaters can be hassle free if they're serviced correctly:

    Can cleat tension be adjusted on EGGBEATERS pedals?-eggbeater-service.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    to be fair though, eggbeaters can be hassle free if they're serviced correctly:
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    that delusional rant certainly solidified a few irrefutable points:

    1. reading comprehension and abstract thought aren't your strong suits;
    2. you have more issues than national geographic; and
    3. my sig unequivocally isn't being taken or used out of context
    Whatever, guess you never take the sticks out of your ass because you like em there
    You think you're smart and that was a successful comeback and i'm delusional?
    I'll have to get back to you on the other threads you're following me around on another time, for now I'm enjoying my evening.
    Now quick, go take a happy pill so you can make some nice and helpful post so not every single post of yours is nasty and you can keep up your delusional facade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    You think you're smart and that was a successful comeback and i'm delusional?
    I'll have to get back to you on the other threads you're following me around on another time, for now I'm enjoying my evening.
    the fact that you suffer from the insistent delusion that people are following you around and out to get you has nothing to do with a comeback. it was merely an astute observation.

    you can mew like a kitten pretending you're the victim of e-stalker all you want but when you initiate personal confrontation you inherently dismiss such a claim as the delusion of a paranoid psychotic with a persecution complex who desperately needs to be put on a regimen of hard-core psychotropic meds.

    seriously, bro... they will quell the voices in your head and help you manage your paranoia/psychosis. who knows, maybe then we could even be friends!
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat
    Now quick, go take a happy pill so you can make some nice and helpful post so not every single post of yours is nasty and you can keep up your delusional facade.
    adding to a post after it's been quoted and replied to??? poor form!

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    blah blah blah
    It's amazing how much damage 1 can do to a group. How they can negatively effect moral. If the mods keep you around that's their call.
    Wish I cared enough to take the time to prove with hundreds of examples of how you follow many who have disagreed with or proven you wrong. I'm not crying victim, and it wasn't my original thought, it was brought up to me by more than 1 member. Just look at this thread. Op asked about adjusting tension, got some answers, said thanx and moved on, done. Then you dropped the bait, that no work then personal attacks. You can fool some but how stupid do you think people are? It is what it is, only you or the mods can change that. Aside from getting you to stfu for a while i can't change it.
    In the meantime in my and many other members eyes, as well as googles, monogod on mtbr = epic fail, as proven by the link i provided you above.
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    you need professional psychiatric help.
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    Can cleat tension be adjusted on EGGBEATERS pedals?

    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Wouldn't life be great with a hassle free pedal. Oh wait there is a design like that. I've been running TIMES for 14 years hassle free. My TIME atac-xc Titanium / Carbons have been going since 2008' hassle free. When I purchased them I set the little side float clicker to my desired setting using a dime and haven't touched them since. >>>Insert 5 stars here<<<<

    Time ATAC XC 12 Titan Carbon Pedal
    Posting $400 pedals as a solution for someone asking about free adjustments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    to be fair though, eggbeaters can be hassle free if they're serviced correctly:
    Agree!

    Picture_095.jpg

    I too recommend Time pedals if you like the basic mechanism of legeaters, they are the reliable version that actually have been engineered past the "hook" or "gimmick" that sucks you into Crank Brothers (the guys that had an epic failure trying to produce cranks, which is, um, THEIR NAME)...
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    did you happen to read steps 8-10 on the service bulletin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    Posting $400 pedals as a solution for someone asking about free adjustments.

    For teh Lulz
    Actually littlestalker he can buy Time atac aluminium for less than,$100. Same hassle free design same easy engagement and release same longevity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    you need professional psychiatric help.
    You're wrong once again. What I need is some lunch. Just got back from a wonderful ride in the woods with my kids and that's so much better then spending time on the internet with you, so thanx for teaching me something.
    IME once a person damages too much of their brain though substance abuse they might have moments of clarity but never fully recover. So i fear there may be no help for you as far as seeking professional psychiatric help, but it couldn't hurt to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    thou doth protest too much.
    It's obvious that you'd say that, or that i need psyc help because i've disagreed with you. You've said those very things to me and many others many times. It's also no longer funny and very predictable that when on the rare occasion you're not a pompous ass it's because someone goes along with you. Idk, maybe you now need a thicker stick up there to loosen you up some more
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    thou doth protest too much about protesting too much!

    also, your obsession with my posterior is really creeping me out.
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