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    avoiding friction burns

    Mostly I ride about 1-3 hours with some biker shorts with padding. I wear camping shorts over the spandex because I keep ripping the spandex in crashes and so I have pockets. The spandex is around $75 and the camping shorts are very light synthetic and cost about $15.

    I recently did a 5 hour ride and got some nasty friction burns. All the internet advice Im reading is about rashes so the solutions are antibacterial, keep the area clean, wash your shorts etc. They dont seem to apply to a one time friction burn.

    Is the only solution chamois butter or the like, are my shorts not expensive enough, too much padding, or is it possibly wearing the camping shorts over them?

    Im working my way up to a 12 hour ride so need to solve this.

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    You seriously managed to get friction burns from your shorts?

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    spandex and friction burns. doesn't compute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodmojo View Post
    Mostly I ride about 1-3 hours with some biker shorts with padding. I wear camping shorts over the spandex because I keep ripping the spandex in crashes and so I have pockets.
    Any chance the lyrca you're wearing now has a couple holes in it and the outer shorts are rubbing against your skin while you ride?

    I sometimes wear my lycra kit all day on race weekends -- race in the morning, sit around/pedal a bit for a couple hours, then race again in the afternoon. I've never had any sort of burns or blisters or anything like that.
    I've made some bad decisions like taking the gears off my bike. So here's the warning: Do not as I say, nor as I do.

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    there are no holes and there is padding on the butt. Here are the shorts

    Nitro L.E. Shorts

    basically wherever my ass touched the seat I have scabs now. I didnt measure but about 4 inches in diameter on either side. Does this short require a lube?

    the padding is not smooth like spandex

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    Are you wearing underware?

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    It could have been bunching of the camping shorts over the lycra. That may have caused pinch points. The other is underwear under the lycra. The chamios is designed to run right on your skin and good pair will stop and chaffing that you are experiencing. Of course now you will need to heal up a bit first.

    This for me we never a concern until I start road biking.
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    Chafing is also the result of sweat and damp skin rubbing against loose fabric or other skin. It shouldn't be a problem for short rides but I can see it occurring for longer rides if your not dressed for it. So it could be a ventilation or clothing fit problem.


    Synthetic material like Coolmax is best against the skin because it wicks moisture away. Don't wear cotton clothing because once it gets wet, it stays wet. In addition, cotton is a rough material and when it's constantly moving against your skin, it can rub your skin raw.

    Since chafing can be caused by loose clothing, it's better to wear clothes that are snug.
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    dont wear underwear, wore the shorts I posted above which are spandex with a chamois.

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    Your first 5 hour ride? Try some chamois cream for your next long ride.

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    avoiding friction burns

    Wrote this a few years ago. Hope it helps!

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    So one thing I was thinking about is that the legs have elastic. When I pull the shorts on I tend to leave the elastic at a location where it isnt too tight on my legs. However the shorts may not be fully pulled up into my groin. This might mean the shorts arent snug. Would this cause the friction burns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    Your first 5 hour ride? Try some chamois cream for your next long ride.
    I have read that many people dont use any lube. Right now Im trying to not use lube to keep things more simple, but once I heal up Ill try again and see if it is a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodmojo View Post
    Would this cause the friction burns?
    thats probably your issue, you want the shorts snug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodmojo View Post
    Mostly I ride about 1-3 hours with some biker shorts with padding. I wear camping shorts over the spandex because I keep ripping the spandex in crashes and so I have pockets. The spandex is around $75 and the camping shorts are very light synthetic and cost about $15.

    I recently did a 5 hour ride and got some nasty friction burns. All the internet advice Im reading is about rashes so the solutions are antibacterial, keep the area clean, wash your shorts etc. They dont seem to apply to a one time friction burn.

    Is the only solution chamois butter or the like, are my shorts not expensive enough, too much padding, or is it possibly wearing the camping shorts over them?

    Im working my way up to a 12 hour ride so need to solve this.
    Lose the outside shorts...

    I am certainly able to ride 10 plus hours anyway without friction burns (chafing)...

    I do however prefer some shorts over others..

    The ones with heavy and or stiffere fabric are not as nice and the really light lcyra shorts for long distances.

    Yeah and lots of peolpe need but cream as well.

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    Get rid of the second pair of shorts. I bet you that is what is causing the problems.

    Look for this stuff, works great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learux View Post
    Get rid of the second pair of shorts. I bet you that is what is causing the problems.

    Look for this stuff, works great.

    Chamois-Buttr-8-Ounce-Skin-Lubricant
    Once I heal up Ill try a longer ride without the shorts. I just hate ripping the expensive spandex when I crash. We have a lot of sharp limestone rocks and they just shred spandex.

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    I bought diaper rash cream a while ago. Works great, has a picture of a cute firefly on the bottle.

    Read the active ingredients of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodmojo View Post
    Once I heal up Ill try a longer ride without the shorts. I just hate ripping the expensive spandex when I crash. We have a lot of sharp limestone rocks and they just shred spandex.
    In my experience the problem with crashing is not so much tearing up the shorts but shredding your skin...

    If your worried about sitting on a rock while resting....well just keep riding at a slower pace so you don't have to sit on the rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodmojo View Post
    So one thing I was thinking about is that the legs have elastic. When I pull the shorts on I tend to leave the elastic at a location where it isnt too tight on my legs. However the shorts may not be fully pulled up into my groin. This might mean the shorts arent snug. Would this cause the friction burns?
    I missed this before, but I think it's part of the problem. Cycling shorts need to be snug and not move around. I bet you'll be happier if you get some that fit you better, and wear them pulled up all the way. Since trying them, I've also become a fan of bib shorts. They eliminate the elastic waist band and stay in place better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodmojo View Post
    ... However the shorts may not be fully pulled up into my groin. ... Would this cause the friction burns?
    YES!!

    The shorts need to be very sung as any space between the groin and chamios is place for chaffing. I usally pay close attention to make sure my chamios is almost wedgie mode. Not up the crack, definitely close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post
    I missed this before, but I think it's part of the problem. Cycling shorts need to be snug and not move around. I bet you'll be happier if you get some that fit you better, and wear them pulled up all the way. Since trying them, I've also become a fan of bib shorts. They eliminate the elastic waist band and stay in place better.
    Ok I think this was the problem. Im almost healed up so will do another 5 hour ride this weekend and see if it helps.

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    Use chamois cream of some kind too. That also helps. And unless you're more interested in the science experiment than riding your bike, there's no harm in doing both and not worrying about which one worked.
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    Don't go for a five hour ride, do a couple of shorter ones, give your skin some time to heal!

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    Bagbalm. Great stuff.
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