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    90s Awesomeness

    This is in the DH forum, but it needs wider distribution.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzZk...ster::eekster:
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    I've seen this before, but I watched it again.

    I still can't believe how bad it is, or why none of those guys at least put their seat down.

    I remember some of those bikes, they got quite a bit better within a few years from then, but not as good as now. It's funny how obvious it seems when you look at them. Hindsight is always 20/20.
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    That was badass!

    It looks like it's everyone's first time on a bike. They just moonwalked off an mc hammer video set, and hit the trail.

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    This would have help me understand the dropper thing a lot quicker. Lots of pink in that video.

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    Didn't they ride XC, DH, DS, and Observed Trials all on the same bike early on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'oiseau View Post
    I've seen this before, but I watched it again.

    I still can't believe how bad it is, or why none of those guys at least put their seat down.

    I remember some of those bikes, they got quite a bit better within a few years from then, but not as good as now. It's funny how obvious it seems when you look at them. Hindsight is always 20/20.
    Well, many of the DH races back then had lots of pedaling and honestly, the geometry was still being dictated by the road bikers. 71/73 angles with long stems. The bikes also had tons of flex. This flex was in the bikes, in the forks and in the wheels.

    Honestly, a lot of those guys who went fast back in the day were nuts. They were also high as a kite but that is another story.

    Today the DH circuit is all about skill, but in the late 80's and early 90's it was just about having balls.
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    So sick, the bikes, the outfits, everything. I would love to get a crew together, hit craigslist/ebay hard, and go out riding like this. Could you imagine the other trail users, when a neon crew tapes off a section and goes riding down with a ridiculously high center of gravity!?!?

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    That WAS awesome! It took me back to my formative days of racing.

    Thanks for posting it.

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    I canít believe Iíve been around this sport for this long. I attended many of these races in the mid to late 90ís. Mostly at Mammoth and Big Bear. My sister and her husband were both racing back then.
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    Yeah, that was awesome! I liked the guy that was streaming the sideline tape behind him. My how things have changed.
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    That inside line was brutal!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    Today the DH circuit is all about skill, but in the late 80's and early 90's it was just about having balls.
    I still race DH and do pretty good. I'd say it's these days it's still about having the balls to take sections at mach9 speeds. Much of the time, your gear limits you where the damping just can't keep up, but to some extent you can offset that with youth and the ability to hold-the-F-on while you are being pounded to hell. Magical shock tunes can make up a lot for this though IME. It usually comes down to the biggest balls though and being able to hold on at insane speeds and forces and pedaling like a madman every chance you get. Takes a lot of upper and mid-body strength to stand up to the pounding and IMO is a good combination of skill, balls, and fitness.

    Back then? Mostly balls. Or drugs.
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    An oldie but goodie. My, how bikes have changed.
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    geometry
    poor quality steel
    poor quality aluminum
    2.10 and 2.2 tires aired up as tight as they'll go
    single wall "alloy" rims
    low flange loose ball hubs
    rim brakes
    I think I saw some reflectors.
    taped on shin guards

    back then you rode what you had and didn't match the bike to the terrain-you just rode the bike that you had.

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    See you young whipper snappers what WE had to go through to get to the bikes we have today. I remember crashing a lot in back then. OTB just about every ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Bone View Post
    geometry
    poor quality steel
    poor quality aluminum
    2.10 and 2.2 tires aired up as tight as they'll go
    single wall "alloy" rims
    low flange loose ball hubs
    rim brakes
    I think I saw some reflectors.
    taped on shin guards

    back then you rode what you had and didn't match the bike to the terrain-you just rode the bike that you had.
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    I rode like that all of the time back then. We called it FUN..

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    Hadn't seen this. Pretty amazing. A good argument why canti's were inappropriate for mountain biking.
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    Whenever anyone asks if 130mm is enough travel on their full suspension bike, this video should somehow auto post itself in the thread :P

    Quote Originally Posted by J-Bone View Post
    geometry
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    back then you rode what you had and didn't match the bike to the terrain-you just rode the bike that you had.
    The steel was actually really good. It had been honed in road bikes for many years.
    The big difference between these bikes and today's bikes is the suspension in my opinion. Otherwise I agree, it's surprising what you can do if you just ride what you have Instead of getting distracted with the different degrees of amazing available today .

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUP-TON View Post
    See you young whipper snappers what WE had to go through to get to the bikes we have today. I remember crashing a lot in back then. OTB just about every ride
    AND GET OFF MY LAWN!! Damn kids. With your fancy 66 degree head tubes and brakes that control your speed and seats that move out of your way. YA PANSIE!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUP-TON View Post
    AND GET OFF MY LAWN!! Damn kids. With your fancy 66 degree head tubes and brakes that control your speed and seats that move out of your way. YA PANSIE!!
    Pansie riders of today donít know how good theyíve got it.
    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    Back then if you weren't going over the bars a few times every ride, you weren't going hard enough. Did any of those guys pre-ride that course? The 90 degree turn was brutal? A++ on the porno soundtrack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    I still race DH and do pretty good. I'd say it's these days it's still about having the balls to take sections at mach9 speeds. Much of the time, your gear limits you where the damping just can't keep up, but to some extent you can offset that with youth and the ability to hold-the-F-on while you are being pounded to hell. Magical shock tunes can make up a lot for this though IME. It usually comes down to the biggest balls though and being able to hold on at insane speeds and forces and pedaling like a madman every chance you get. Takes a lot of upper and mid-body strength to stand up to the pounding and IMO is a good combination of skill, balls, and fitness.

    Back then? Mostly balls. Or drugs.
    Yeah, I was being too harsh on the riders of today, where balls and skill are required.

    I remember the downhill races we would go watch at Mt. Snow and other places on the east coast. Bikes would break in half going down the hill. Getting air was dangerous because you most likely would taco a wheel or worse, snap the bike in half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUP-TON View Post
    See you young whipper snappers what WE had to go through to get to the bikes we have today. I remember crashing a lot in back then. OTB just about every ride
    This. If I went more than about a week without a fairly significant crash I started getting a bit anxious about when "I was due." Felt as though getting quickly out of practice from hitting the ground would make the delayed impending shunt much worse.

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    Mmm tacos....

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    I used to ride with a guy who was good for an OTB crash every ride it was hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knutso View Post
    So sick, the bikes, the outfits, everything. I would love to get a crew together, hit craigslist/ebay hard, and go out riding like this. Could you imagine the other trail users, when a neon crew tapes off a section and goes riding down with a ridiculously high center of gravity!?!?
    Let's goooo!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Len Baird View Post
    I used to ride with a guy who was good for an OTB crash every ride it was hilarious.
    HAHA....have we met?

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'oiseau View Post
    I've seen this before, but I watched it again.

    I still can't believe how bad it is, or why none of those guys at least put their seat down.

    I remember some of those bikes, they got quite a bit better within a few years from then, but not as good as now. It's funny how obvious it seems when you look at them. Hindsight is always 20/20.
    Yeah, this was a time where mountain bikes used the road bike stuff to get their tech (so pretty much the opposite of today). Tire technology was non-existent. Mountain bike magazines had article about whether black wall tires were better than skin wall tires and were straight leg forks better then curved forks. Brakes were stolen from touring bikes and worked about as well. Stems for some reason were as long as chainstays and handlebar widths about the same. Grips often were cork and rotated easily no matter what. Seats were left up because you could brace them against you leg as you careened out of control around whatever passed for a trail which were often either fire roads, hiking trails or animal tracks that someone may have cut back the shrubbery from.

    Everything was awesome because everyone had the same crappy equipment, same crappy tires and same weird geometries. It was a time.

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    My rig back in the day. Probably 85-86ish. Its been through several family members and recently back in my possession. Mostly original.
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    Who are these guys?

    Some of them went so slow on those stairs and still got wiped out. I know old geometry no suspension etc. but stairs... Come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyomad View Post
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    That vid the OP linked us to looked to me like the mid to late 80s, too many rigid forks on those bikes to be 1990 (I think). I've got a RS Judy in my garage that works as well as those in the video were working! I had a sweet 1987 Fisher ProCaliber, rigid chrome-molly, even the bar-stem combo thingy was steal. I remember planning WAY ahead for turns if we were on fire roads (where you could get up some speed) those brakes sucked. I was use to racing MX and the drum brakes on my Husqy would haul down a 160lb moto from 60mph better/faster than the cantis could on my 30lb bike doing 20mph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyBoni View Post
    Who are these guys?

    Some of them went so slow on those stairs and still got wiped out. I know old geometry no suspension etc. but stairs... Come on.
    You forgot to mention seat post fully extended and sitting on the seat. That was the main culprit of those crashes. When I started riding mid to late 90ís, I at least had a life long MX background and knew body English and when to stand and get back in situations like that. As a recreational rider back then there were many stops to lower the seat with a flip quick release to get the seat out of the way and my ass over the rear tire. Standing alone can help with this. But sitting on a fully extended seat going down a staircase on most any bike much less a circa late 80ís to early 90ís XC oriented old geometry ride is a suicide mission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    We don't need no steenking brakes!


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    Man does this bring back memories. I lived in Big Bear from 92-96 and my first bike was a Schwinn MP-21 before upgrading to a Rockhopper Comp with a Scott fork that rode like a pogo stick. I figure the only way I survived those rides was because I was still in my 20s and adequately lubricated! Fun times indeed.

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