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    650B Or 27.5

    What sounds better to you six fifty bee or twenty seven point five?

    I prefer 650B because of the way it sounds and rolls off the tongue. I just don't care for saying 27.5. Twenty Niner sounds OK.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    27.5 only because that's what I got used to saying.
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    27.5

    650b has always been a downsized road bike wheel for smaller riders.
    One gear is all you need.

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    I enjoyed saying 650 but the last few years as the marketing changed and all the new bikes started coming with 27.5" wheels I conformed. I now say 27.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    27.5

    650b has always been a downsized road bike wheel for smaller riders.
    That's 650c
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    twenty seven five

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    Oh great Travis, yet another wheel size debate.

    I think by now that everyone recognizes that 27.5 has superior performance over mountain beaver holes than 650B. I'd go so far as to say that it's a scientific fact.
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    650b. How does 1" more than a 26er and 2" less than a 29er make 27.5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne View Post
    That's 650c
    Huh? It's always been 650b and 700c, as far as I've ever known. I've never owned one, but have never seen a reference to a "c".
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    My first MTB was called "SixFifty B", so that's what comes to mind first.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    Huh? It's always been 650b and 700c, as far as I've ever known. I've never owned one, but have never seen a reference to a "c".
    It is c for road.

    My TT bike is a 650c.

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    F 'em all and use the actual BSD.

    Do you remember them all? 622, 559, and ____? xD

    Useful cause this number is listed both on the rim and the tire, and tends to be the more trustworthy standard number to go by. If you ever thought a Maxxis 2.35 was bigger than a Maxxis 2.3, and didn't look that the tire said 52-559 (2.35) and 58-559 (2.3, which is wider than the 2.35), are you going to blame your ignorance, social acceptance of sheeple preferring to focus on imperial numbers for width, the brand itself, or some faceless entity such as the "marketing"? Most people will avoid blaming themselves or the "majority of normal people", but it's the industry's response to the people that is causing this shitfest.

    In other words, there will be far less confusion if people actually used the ETRTO. Compare ETRTO before you start saying blah blah is undersized, one brand's 2.25 is bigger than another's 2.35 (and 2.5 for that matter), or otherwise didn't come in the dimensions you expected. Wonder if non-Americans complain about tires not measuring an actual 2.35" wide, or not following the same measuring procedure as the mfg (e.g. inflating with tube on rim to the tire's max stated pressure, and leaving overnight to stretch)...

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    LOL @ the 662 typo.

    Also, "c" does not imply it's for road. The bicycle godfather has more info here: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/650b.html

    Just think about it. How would you source a tire for a rim that didn't have any size indicators on it? If you knew about BSD, you could measure that and choose a variety of tires. If you have a 559 and assume it's a 26" rim, and shop for 26" slick tires with decent volume since you want to commute on it, there's a possibility you'd order the wrong tire. See here: https://www.biketiresdirect.com/olde...-sizes-article
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    Props to Travis B. for starting the best thread so far this winter. Not that it's a terribly new or interesting topic, but the responses are quite amusing.

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    twenty seven five
    agreed, the only terms I use are 27.5 or B+, which is not being discussed here.

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    Oh great Travis, yet another wheel size debate.
    There's no debate, this is just a friendly conversation. And clearly 29+ is coming out on top.

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    650b. How does 1" more than a 26er and 2" less than a 29er make 27.5?
    Hey, don't blame the bike industry because your bad at math.

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    F 'em all and use the actual BSD...
    There you go again using common sense and accurate information in a thread that has no basis for logic.

    Truly, nvphatty got it right from square one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
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    I call them two seven five sometimes for the fun of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow4eva View Post
    I call them two seven five sometimes for the fun of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    This is how God intended it to be said. I own 2 6FiddyBees, both Plus or 6FiddyFaddies as I call them.
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    Maybe I'm being disingenuous because after I voted, I realized 650b might sound better but the fact is, I say twentysevenfive so it might be that I'm voting per what I say.

    Main thing is, I don't want to entice a query or long conversation on 650b, how and why or history of blah blah blah .... I know that'll happen and I just ain't that big of a 'bike guy' to carry that.

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    I might just buy a 40 count case of frozen one's later today just in case.
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    Just when you thought that wheel size debates could not get any more tedious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    Just when you thought that wheel size debates could not get any more tedious.
    lol

    Thankfully , I don't have to understand it to ride it !

    My 27.5 x 3.0 is so close to outer dia of 29er I fail to see why there is so much bloodletting heretofore.


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    Random mtbers you talk to will more likely know/understand 27.5 than 650b. Me? I ride 700c.
    Do the math.

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    It's 650B to me, because Giant and all those other manufacturers who want to try and make people believe that it falls squarely between 26" and 29" can go svck eggs, while the truth is, your avg 26" tyre is actually about 26.5 and then your avg 29er is just over 29" and most 650B are closer to 27" around 27.25".
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    I don't care what is widely used, more correct, etc, just which SOUNDS better to you. To me twenty-seven point five sounds awkward compared to six fifty bee. Also why use 6 syllables when 4 will do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    What sounds better to you six fifty bee or twenty seven point five?

    I prefer 650B because of the way it sounds and rolls off the tongue. I just don't care for saying 27.5. Twenty Niner sounds OK.
    Calling 650 27.5 was just a clever marketing gimmick to hide how close a 26" and 650b really are.

    • 26 = 559 mm rim diameter
    • 27.5/650b = 584 (that is + 25 mm ~ 1")
    • 29/700c = 622 (that is + 38 mm ~ 1.5")


    Back than I loved how everybody fall into the clever little deception, starting with the MTB "press"

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    650B sounds like a road bike term and I don't want to have any of that.
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    They both sound kinda dumb.
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    26’er & then some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    26’er and nothing more
    That took a while

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    28er. Ain’t nobody got time for no decimals. Always easier to round up.

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    I think midget niner rolls of the tongue pretty well.


    Edit: This is a total Picard thread btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoker View Post
    28er. Ain’t nobody got time for no decimals. Always easier to round up.
    just like taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bachman1961 View Post
    Maybe I'm being disingenuous because after I voted, I realized 650b might sound better but the fact is, I say twentysevenfive so it might be that I'm voting per what I say.

    Main thing is, I don't want to entice a query or long conversation on 650b, how and why or history of blah blah blah .... I know that'll happen and I just ain't that big of a 'bike guy' to carry that.

    ** If they ever eff-up ordering a bacon double cheese burger by applying that dang Varaxis wheel/tire chart mumbo jumbo, I'll starve to death.
    I might just buy a 40 count case of frozen one's later today just in case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    What sounds better to you six fifty bee or twenty seven point five?

    I prefer 650B because of the way it sounds and rolls off the tongue. I just don't care for saying 27.5. Twenty Niner sounds OK.
    Twenty seven & a half ;-)

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    Non-twenty-niner

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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    Hey, where’s the third option?

    Seems to be the ongoing want is for a third option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    What sounds better to you six fifty bee or twenty seven point five?

    I prefer 650B because of the way it sounds and rolls off the tongue. I just don't care for saying 27.5. Twenty Niner sounds OK.
    Guess it depends on how you say it. I say two-seven-five not twenty seven point five.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamwa View Post
    Edit: This is a total Picard thread btw.
    A new entry to the on-line dictionary right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazpat View Post
    Non-twenty-niner

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.
    i beg your pardon sir! there's a heap wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Hey, where’s the third option?

    Seems to be the ongoing want is for a third option.
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    I see I struck a nerve with the last poll. Although it wasn't intended to spawn several silly polls in response; that's just childish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamwa View Post


    Edit: This is a total Picard thread btw.
    Ah yeaaaaah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richj8990 View Post
    I see I struck a nerve with the last poll. Although it wasn't intended to spawn several silly polls in response; that's just childish.
    Are you talkin to me? I have no idea what you are referring to, I just wanted to start a silly poll to pass the time while it was raining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    Guess it depends on how you say it. I say two-seven-five not twenty seven point five.

    Twenty seven five.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccm View Post
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    My favorite thing about a wheel size thread is this joke, it just gets funnier every time.

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    I'm not sure. The tires on my newer bike has in big white letters, 650B on the front and 27.5 on the back. So one of each. Plus they
    are the same type of tire, so even the tire maker can't make up their mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrashbarg View Post
    My favorite thing about a wheel size thread is this joke, it just gets funnier every time.
    Tweener size between 26 and 27.5? 26 is closer to 26.5", according to modern measuring standards. A modern 2.2/57mm wide tire (e.g. Maxxis Ikon) adds about 2.25" to the height of the rim, or 4.5" to the total wheel diameter. They may have measured 26" with undersized tires: 2.1/47mm or 2.35/52mm Maxxis High Roller or Ignitor. Even an old school 2.5/55mm DHF was narrower than a modern 2.2.

    650B Or 27.5-norco-sight-650b-conversion-axle-height-comparison-600x401.jpg
    26x2.35 Kenda (diameter: 26.375") vs 27.5x2.0 Quasimoto (diameter: 27.5", though the tape seems to show 13*2/3")

    650B Or 27.5-mtbbeadseatdiameter.jpg
    Add 4.5" to the diameters here...
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    I still kind of chuckle about it.
    I was still quite new to this tire sizes thing and had two 26 bikes. I got my wife a new bike a number of years ago and it's more the fitness cruiser with 700c. She felt the bike was a bit squirrely on some gravel path type stuff so I did a bit of measuring and decided it could probably take a 29" tire and found a real nice pair of 29" WTB at W-Mart, not too aggressive on knobs but a wider footprint @ $9 each.

    Checked with a few bike shops to see the thoughts of fitting 29 versus 700c and never really got a straight answer. One shop offered to do it for me saying it might be possible.

    It was a 10 minute job.
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    This thread has taught me that so called '29ers' are actually only 2.5" bigger than a 26".

    I'm proposing renaming them 'twenty eight point fivers'. Who's with me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    I don't care what is widely used, more correct, etc, just which SOUNDS better to you. To me twenty-seven point five sounds awkward compared to six fifty bee. Also why use 6 syllables when 4 will do?

    In this case, I voted wrong. 650b sounds way better than 27.5. I only voted 27.5 because it is more consisent with the naming scheme of 26er, 29er, 26fat, 29+, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    A "29er" wheel is a 700c rim, but we don't call those bikes 700c-ers. We call then 29ers. So way use 650b to describe the bike?

    No one says "559 is dead" either.
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    Could you not just call it, the pointless size? Would 26 and 29 not have been enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    Could you not just call it, the pointless size? Would 26 and 29 not have been enough?
    Twenty-seven POINT five. See? There is a point.
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    I kinda like the sound of

    648 Double D's
    since we're just spitballing here
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    27.5. Gotta stay imperial. Only in metric countries 650b should be used.

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    "Imperial is that which relates to an empire, emperor, or imperialism."

    And by metric countries you mean the all of them except the USA.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    "Imperial is that which relates to an empire, emperor, or imperialism."

    And by metric countries you mean the all of them except the USA.
    Ignoring the semantics derail, and accuracy of your statement, 27.5 taking over the place of 26 by force sounds like imperialism. xD



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    This is not about wheel size, only how the words sound. Start your own poll.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim c View Post
    ...I'm kinda sorry for giving in and ranting on this, but several posts above were all about how lame 650b is so I sounded off.
    you obviously misunderstood. they aren't arguing the pros and cons of a tire size, they are arguing over which name they think sounds better to them...

    (edit: note to self, read all responses first)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    This is not about wheel size, only how the words sound. Start your own poll.
    You’re a raging anti - poll dentite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    You’re an anti - poll dentite.
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    I use 650b when referring to my gravel/allroad bikes and 27.5" when referring to my mountain bikes. That probably doesn't help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF View Post
    I use 650b when referring to my gravel/allroad bikes and 27.5" when referring to my mountain bikes. That probably doesn't help.
    so your a switch hitter eh??
    "ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK"

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    Building up a 700c hardtail, hopefully today.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    You’re an anti - poll dentite.
    Raging!
    One gear is all you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    Raging!
    Fixed that, thank you.
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    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    Building up a 700c hardtail, hopefully today.
    A seven double goose egg C? Cool, let us know how it turns out.
    There are two types of people in this world:
    1) Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    so your a switch hitter eh??
    Heh, yeah. Another way to differentiate is that if I have fenders on the bike, it's 650b.

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    Where I live there's 2 kinds of riders, those with fenders and those with moldy bums.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    I have a few rides on my 700c hardtail and like the bigger wheels so far.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Fixed that, thank you.
    it's actually 'rabid' if you're gonna be splitting hairs over it...


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    Quote Originally Posted by .WestCoastHucker. View Post
    it's actually 'rabbit' if you're gonna be splitting hares over it...
    fify

    Ok, I'm bored here at work.
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