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    420 and Mountain Biking

    I may be showing my age here, but back in the the 90's and early 2000's it seemed that it was the thing to do to blaze up and ride and stop in the middle of the ride and blaze up again. Is it just me or is it just not PC to spark up on the trail and offer your fellow rider a hit of the green, or just to spark up on the trail at all?

    I personally don't smoke like I used to since life's responsibilities have over taken my pleasures and I just can't function as well on the bike like I used to when I am high, especially with the weed that is out today. Wow! But I go on many group rides and go to places that are very popular with the local MTB seen in the Bay Area and I just don't see it like I used to. Mind you, back in the 90's I was riding mainly El Dorado County and Placer and Tahoe area.

    Puff, puff give and let me know if I am just blind or if I am living in the past man!

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    You're behind the times, mountain biking's gone mainstream and the big words are accessibility, sustainability and advocacy.

    None of which go very well when you light up a doob in a public place! Ah well, everyone has to grow up sometime.

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    No one I ride with smokes and I prefer it that way. I would definitely have a couple words for someone that asks me to stop a ride to get a couple tokes in. And that's a fairly young person's opinion.

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    smoke it if you got it. most of my biking friends don't smoke, so i take care of it on my time while riding with them. unless of course i'm with my smoker friends, then we just do whatever, whenever...
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    I say spark one up if it's your thing.

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    I don't smoke (anymore) but I say have at it. Its no worse than drinking craft beer at the trailhead.

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    I like to smoke, but not when I ride. It makes me feel weak on the climbs and really timid on the downhills. I know plenty who can rip both up and down on the weed, though.

    While at home watching a movie with the wife and eating a good meal, now that's a fine time.

    I don't drink though, so to each their own.
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    I don't but if that's your thing go for it.

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    Interesting answers and responses. As I mentioned before, it is not my thing anymore since I kind of graduated from that stage in my life and other things replaced it. A person posted that it is no different than drinking craft beer, in which I totally agree with as well, even though I do not drink alcohol. I foresee the state of California along with other states in the union legalizing Marijuana in the coming two years and going the route of Washington and Colorado. It would be foolish to not foresee two "grass-roots" pastimes not coming together such as other industries have already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgroove View Post
    It would be foolish to not foresee two "grass-roots" pastimes not coming together such as other industries have already.



    Not if you don't give two fuks about it one way or the other.

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    Our trails are technical due to lack of elevation and I'm no fan of paranoidial freakout tech riding so I wait till I'm done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ View Post
    Not if you don't give two fuks about it one way or the other.
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    Wow, not sure where everyone is riding but where im at your not "living in the past" a large percent of the people I ride around smoke, some very discrete some fire up right in the woods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgroove View Post


    Says the twit that's trying to create a drama where none exists.

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    reading comprehension is lost on some people...


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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ View Post
    Says the twit that's trying to create a drama where none exists.
    "Create drama"? Get over yourself buddy, this is a Forum where everyone's opinion matters. Even yours. No one is trying to create "drama". Just informative dialogue within the MTB community.

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    Drought, forest fire, MUT where it's not socially acceptable... aside from that. No problem. Nobody I know smokes when they ride but on trail maintenance days when we're not using gas powered equipment it happens occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zgroove View Post
    ...Just informative dialogue within the MTB community.
    the part where you quoted something you misunderstood and then posted an ******* song in response, leads some of us to believe otherwise..


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    I know many who do, though they usually wait until after to blaze and have a beer.
    How can anyone who's been riding as long as I have, be so slow???

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    Only 2 times in all the rides I've been on the past couple years have I smelled anyone getting high. I'm not interested in that for myself, but I don't care if others do.

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    Mixing riding and 4:20 is for stoners only for the most part. Having said that, edibles and riding are awesome in my experience. Instant "in the zone" and pain doesn't hurt so bad. Edibles, Black Sabbath, and Night Riding is a religious experience.

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    Me n my friends smoke while riding, then again we are kinda stoners. Nothing beats a quick bowl on lift.

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    MTB riding is potentially dangerous and riding technical trails requires a lot of focus. I prefer to have my cognitive functions un-compromised when I ride and I hope that the people I share the trails with have similar concerns.

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    Its still illegal in 48 states. I work for the state of Utah's Counter Drug Program. You won't get a pass lighting up around me while mountain biking.
    I'm a mountain bike guide in southwest Utah

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    I personally never had a problem maintaining control while toked up. However that all depends on the individual

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    It's not the weed really so much. I just wish I hadn't drunk all that cough syrup this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    I work for the state of Utah's Counter Drug Program.
    This will go down on your permanent record.

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    Weed impairs your reaction time and judgement. There are trails where this doesn't matter but then there are trails where it definitely does matter. It's about personal safety, others' safety and liability.
    For what it's worth, I favor the legalization of pot. But just like alcohol, weed has to be used responsibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borabora View Post
    Weed impairs your reaction time and judgement. There are trails where this doesn't matter but then there are trails where it definitely does matter. It's about personal safety, others' safety and liability.
    For what it's worth, I favor the legalization of pot. But just like alcohol, weed has to be used responsibly.
    I concur.
    I can't ride worth a crap with 420 IF and thats a big IF it happens it is at the end of the ride.
    It is not uncommon to smell it on trails here wafting around after all I live in BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
    This will go down on your permanent record.
    You're such a violent femme. Chill out man.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    You're such a violent femme. Chill out man.
    You calling him a blister??

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    Quote Originally Posted by pizon View Post
    Nothing beats a quick bowl on lift.
    you must not get out much...
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    Only in the sun.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Re: 420 and Mountain Biking

    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    you must not get out much...
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    If Gary Fisher does it, then well it can't be all that bad!

    I am curious, any Colorado or Washington MTB'ers out there, and if so, have you seen any noticeable changes on the trails since the laws have been passed? Or is it still too cold in the season to really gauge that still ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pizon View Post
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    Sex > a quick bowl on the lift.

    Hell, I can think of quite a few things besides sex that beat a quick bowl on the lift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    MTB riding is potentially dangerous and riding technical trails requires a lot of focus. I prefer to have my cognitive functions un-compromised when I ride and I hope that the people I share the trails with have similar concerns.
    Then again, an Olympic Gold was won in snowboarding on the devil's cabbage, and a no hitter was pitched, in MLB, while on LSD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRingGrinder View Post
    Sex > a quick bowl on the lift.

    Hell, I can think of quite a few things besides sex that beat a quick bowl on the lift.
    ok, well if taken very literally, yes there is a ton of things that beat that. However, I do enjoy a puff while in taking the scenery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveohio View Post
    If Gary Fisher does it, then well it can't be all that bad!

    I am curious, any Colorado or Washington MTB'ers out there, and if so, have you seen any noticeable changes on the trails since the laws have been passed? Or is it still too cold in the season to really gauge that still ?
    Colorado here. The only difference is the number of out of state people coming in to buy weed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekbob View Post
    Mixing riding and 4:20 is for stoners only for the most part. Having said that, edibles and riding are awesome in my experience. Instant "in the zone" and pain doesn't hurt so bad. Edibles, Black Sabbath, and Night Riding is a religious experience.
    Let's Ride! As long as it's First Gen Sabbath!! Never been on a "Night Ride" with my bike...I should buy a light just incase! LOL
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    I personally know several Cat1 men who enjoy the spliff on the more casual off-season enduro rides, and certainly after some taxing races. Not for me but I could give a rat's ballzack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Its still illegal in 48 states. I work for the state of Utah's Counter Drug Program. You won't get a pass lighting up around me while mountain biking.
    Yes sir, Sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveohio View Post
    If Gary Fisher does it, then well it can't be all that bad!

    I am curious, any Colorado or Washington MTB'ers out there, and if so, have you seen any noticeable changes on the trails since the laws have been passed? Or is it still too cold in the season to really gauge that still ?
    I live in CO and have not noticed a difference on trails. One place you do see a difference is the ski hills but most of that is from out of towners just excited to buy legal pot and then blaze on the lift. I think most Colorado folk realize how lucky we are and keep it on the DL, duck in the trees or hide off trail. You still cant smoke in public so that act is illegal. Legalization in CO has been very successful and the world did not end so all is good in the mile high.

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    Most of my riding friends and I smoke on about every ride. Its become sort a ritual to stop and puff. When I end up riding with people who don't smoke, I'll puff but will do it out of sight to not offend anybody.

    I've never really run into anybody on the trail who is offended by it. If some is offended, that's fine, but its not going stop me from enjoying my ride after a smoke.
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    You guys need to grow up and do coke like an adult.

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    I appreciate all the intuitive responses to this topic. Props to all the Colorado and Washington riders that have commented on this forum. From my years of riding experience it seems that a greater percentage of riders can function normally while smoking weed rather than pounding a few beers. Depending on your tolerances, you may agree or disagree. Anyone feel the same way regarding either? Or even both? Or doing both at the same time while riding as well?

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    Personally, I think both are better enjoyed after a nice long ride than before it. I usually keep my usage of both to moderation or very low levels if during a ride or at the bottom before I shuttle back up for another run.

    Also, to the guy who eats edibles before riding... Not sure how you have survived this long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Its still illegal in 48 states. I work for the state of Utah's Counter Drug Program. You won't get a pass lighting up around me while mountain biking.
    Not my cup of tea, however, many states including MA have decriminalized pot.

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    Then again, an Olympic Gold was won in snowboarding on the devil's cabbage, and a no hitter was pitched, in MLB, while on LSD.

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    no one i ride with will pass on a hit. ive never offered it to any strangers, too many ignornant people out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgroove View Post
    I appreciate all the intuitive responses to this topic. Props to all the Colorado and Washington riders that have commented on this forum. From my years of riding experience it seems that a greater percentage of riders can function normally while smoking weed rather than pounding a few beers. Depending on your tolerances, you may agree or disagree. Anyone feel the same way regarding either? Or even both? Or doing both at the same time while riding as well?
    Alcohol most definitely impairs motor and cognitive skills to a far greater extent than pot does. I'm pretty sure there is enough empirical evidence via statistics and studies that prove this.

    I find it funny that recently the "hip" thing now is craft beers, so now people are enjoying those and its far more socially acceptable in the MTBR forum world.

    The crew I ride with generally will have some fun out on the trail, but no one is out there to get shitfaced and thrash out.

    I'm really surprised that CO and WA there it isn't more commonplace to see people smoking in public. When I went to Toronto 10 or so years back, it was nothing to walk down Yonge St blazing up, and to see others doing the same.

    If your a perceptive person, you can generally spot tokers around any big event.
    People smoking pot are generally gonna just sit back and off the beaten path minding their own business, whereas the drunks are falling all over the place, and generally making a scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfruits View Post
    no one i ride with will pass on a hit. ive never offered it to any strangers, too many ignornant people out there.
    before calling people "ignorant" you might wanna learn how to spell it first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveohio View Post
    Alcohol most definitely impairs motor and cognitive skills to a far greater extent than pot does. I'm pretty sure there is enough empirical evidence via statistics and studies that prove this.
    references please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    references please?

    Until very recently, it was mostly impossible to get funding for marijuana research, or even non-psychoactive hemp research. As a result, there is a lack of available data.

    I can anecdotally say that cops, for the most part, just don't care about weed anymore, outside of TX, FL, and OK of course. Having a visible half smoked bowl in your car is apt to be overlooked, while a half consumed beer will get a person hauled off in cuffs.
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    Someone mentioned not wanting to mix drops, trees, and rocks with a paranoidal attack. That sounds about right, especially for me. Hah. But to each there own, won't catch a scowl from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by <strike>monogod
    references please?</strike>
    Quote Originally Posted by steveohio
    Alcohol most definitely impairs motor and cognitive skills to a far greater extent than pot does. I'm pretty sure there is enough empirical evidence via statistics and studies that prove this.
    Quote Originally Posted by juan_speeder
    Until very recently, it was mostly impossible to get funding for marijuana research, or even non-psychoactive hemp research. As a result, there is a lack of available data.
    fify juan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juan_speeder View Post
    Until very recently, it was mostly impossible to get funding for marijuana research, or even non-psychoactive hemp research. As a result, there is a lack of available data.

    I can anecdotally say that cops, for the most part, just don't care about weed anymore, outside of TX, FL, and OK of course. Having a visible half smoked bowl in your car is apt to be overlooked, while a half consumed beer will get a person hauled off in cuffs.
    While it's true that public funding for research is difficult to obtain, there are still some privately funded studies. However, private corporations will not divulge any data they are not required by law to do so unless it's to their benefit, but I think there is some data carried out by the US govt. It just needs to be looked at objectively and further studies to verify or disprove the data need to be unhindered.
    I'm surprised to read that a half smoked pipe would be overlooked by a cop during a traffic stop. Possibly not caring about enforcement for a small amount is one thing, overlooking a clear indication of impairment while behind the wheel is a little unnerving.
    Also Mono, while I have read and believe your comments in the PSH thread, can we please play nice? As indicated in the aforementioned thread, you'll lose ears and do no good unless the message is conveyed in a thoughtful way.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pizon View Post
    Me n my friends smoke while riding, then again we are kinda stoners. Nothing beats a quick bowl on lift.

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    You mean the "Ganjala?"

    I can't believe no one has mentioned vaporizing yet. You are ALL behind the times. Smoking is so … smokey. Gross. Smoking makes me all hazy and dumb, but I can vape or eat a small medicinal hard candy and function well. Take care of your lungs. Edibles, vaping, or tinctures are the way to go.

    Anyone who looks down at responsible cannabis use, but continues to condone alcohol use is either terribly uninformed or a hypocrite. Alcohol a far worse threat than cannabis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post

    Also, to the guy who eats edibles before riding... Not sure how you have survived this long.
    How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burt4x4 View Post
    Let's Ride! As long as it's First Gen Sabbath!! Never been on a "Night Ride" with my bike...I should buy a light just incase! LOL
    I was referring to a specific ride where I was listening to Sabotage and it was on "The Thrill of it All." It was so awesome I almost cried. I generally listen to Master of Reality thru Sabotage. I have never even listened to an entire Dio Sabbath album. And night riding is the greatest thing ever you should do it (not really but it's great. No more scheduling rides around the sun and it's a different experience and world out there at night)

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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post
    Personally, I think both are better enjoyed after a nice long ride than before it. I usually keep my usage of both to moderation or very low levels if during a ride or at the bottom before I shuttle back up for another run.

    Also, to the guy who eats edibles before riding... Not sure how you have survived this long.
    I have always had a high tolerance for edibles. I never used to bother with them because I considered it a waste. Even now they don't seem to do much unless I'm on the bike. Funny thing is my only source of edibles is my riding buddy and we joke how when he gives them to me its going to be a tough ride for him.

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    I can't click on those right now, but it seems they're mostly related to driving. I'm speaking more in terms of how each substance affects the user's health in general. Alcohol is a poison. It wreaks more havoc on the human body than cannabis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    Also Mono, while I have read and believe your comments in the PSH thread, can we please play nice? As indicated in the aforementioned thread, you'll lose ears and do no good unless the message is conveyed in a thoughtful way.
    step off, bro. everyone's playing nice, so quit trying to create drama where there is none.
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    Sorry bout your toes, hoping for civil discourse since I know you have experience based on earlier comments. That's all I wanted to say.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Thought View Post
    I can't click on those right now, but it seems they're mostly related to driving. I'm speaking more in terms of how each substance affects the user's health in general. Alcohol is a poison. It wreaks more havoc on the human body than cannabis.
    Yes, as far as health consequences alcohol is multiple times worse.
    Infact, I've yet to see any statistical evidence that pot in any way effects your health negatively, and there are in fact many things found out about it more recently to show that it positively effects your health, and many health conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveohio View Post
    Yes, as far as health consequences alcohol is multiple times worse.
    Infact, I've yet to see any statistical evidence that pot in any way effects your health negatively, and there are in fact many things found out about it more recently to show that it positively effects your health, and many health conditions.
    It's baffling to me how such a damaging substance is blatantly promoted in our society while cannabis remains classified as a Schedule I narcotic. Fortunately, the tide is turning and new shit is coming to light, man.

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    Its not baffling. Just look at the big dollars of interests at stake.

    Billions of dollars in drugs, Billions in medical coverage, billions in insurance, alcohol and tobacco industry interests, the logging, paper and consumables industry the whole judicial infrastructure is built on busting minor pot dealers, all the black ops money, DEA drug smuggling money, the recycling farce.

    The list goes on and on.

    All that money is at stake because a simple little weed, that can grow in nearly any condition anywhere in the world, that has more unique strains than any other plant in the world. All you need is a seed, and alittle water and sunlight and you solve tons of humanities problems. Noone makes money off of that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveohio View Post
    Yes, as far as health consequences alcohol is multiple times worse.
    Infact, I've yet to see any statistical evidence that pot in any way effects your health negatively, and there are in fact many things found out about it more recently to show that it positively effects your health, and many health conditions.
    If you "smoke" it, of course it damages your health. Inhaling smoke into your lungs, of any kind, is not good.
    I had an uncle smoke pot his entire life. He died of COPD. He never smoked a cigarette. COPD is a nasty way to die. You basically suffocate. To each his own, but I don't smoke it because of what it does to your lungs. (I did when I was a teen, but that was years ago).

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    Noone makes money off of that..
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    Yes they do make money and they make plenty of it. Don't delude yourself, marijuana legalization is not the Utopia some would like us to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ View Post
    Yes they do make money and they make plenty of it. Don't delude yourself, marijuana legalization is not the Utopia some would like us to believe.
    I think you misread what I wrote.

    Noone makes money off of a_randomguy_0197225 who can very easily plant a seed and grows his own. However all the big interests and lobbies I listed above, are multi billion if not trillion dollar industries if combined together, they have the funds to fight the legalization of it, which has been going on close to 80 years now.

    I could really care less about the legalization movement, it doesn't really effect me.

    Nor do I think it creates some sort of utopia and going the other way, it doesn't turn everyone into a bunch of lazy disinterested Dorito eating people that commit crimes.

    and johnb, your uncles condition was due to the inhalation of smoke, not the consumption of weed or its active ingredient. The smoke itself is multitudes more dangerous and harmful than the pot itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnb View Post
    If you "smoke" it, of course it damages your health. Inhaling smoke into your lungs, of any kind, is not good.
    I had an uncle smoke pot his entire life. He died of COPD. He never smoked a cigarette. COPD is a nasty way to die. You basically suffocate. To each his own, but I don't smoke it because of what it does to your lungs. (I did when I was a teen, but that was years ago).
    There are a lot of cases of lung cancer in this country and they aren't smokers of anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by steveohio View Post
    a simple little weed, that can grow in nearly any condition anywhere in the world, that has more unique strains than any other plant in the world. All you need is a seed, and alittle water and sunlight and you solve tons of humanities problems. Noone makes money off of that..
    There's nothing simple about it. Grow operations, whether indoor or outdoor require inputs, management, security, etc. all of which cost money. It's doubtful there are more strains than some other agricultural crops (though many may be used for research purposes rather than commercial interests), flower breeding is also quite extensive and the industry makes plenty of moola, and there are other plants used for research (arabidopsis thaliana for instance) that have stock centers containing seed with insertions/mutations in every gene. Most propagation is also from cuttings used to generate clones and not from seed. The projected tax revenue for Colorado is expected to be quite large so some people are definitely making some income. Asking a little plant to solve tons of cultural and societal problems is a little naive I think. There will still be a need for the pharmaceutical industry, medical, insurance, police, armed forces and govt.
    I do have to ask for more clarification, what is the recycling farce? Are you referring to the infrastructure and methodology of recycling plastics?
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveohio View Post
    Its not baffling. Just look at the big dollars of interests at stake.

    Billions of dollars in drugs, Billions in medical coverage, billions in insurance, alcohol and tobacco industry interests, the logging, paper and consumables industry the whole judicial infrastructure is built on busting minor pot dealers, all the black ops money, DEA drug smuggling money, the recycling farce.

    The list goes on and on.

    All that money is at stake because a simple little weed, that can grow in nearly any condition anywhere in the world, that has more unique strains than any other plant in the world. All you need is a seed, and alittle water and sunlight and you solve tons of humanities problems. Noone makes money off of that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnb View Post
    If you "smoke" it, of course it damages your health. Inhaling smoke into your lungs, of any kind, is not good.
    I had an uncle smoke pot his entire life. He died of COPD. He never smoked a cigarette. COPD is a nasty way to die. You basically suffocate. To each his own, but I don't smoke it because of what it does to your lungs. (I did when I was a teen, but that was years ago).
    There are such better ways to ingest it than to smoke it, though. If you don't smoke it, but use a smarter method, it's unlikely to cause any negative health issues.

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    Yes they do make money and they make plenty of it. Don't delude yourself, marijuana legalization is not the Utopia some would like us to believe.
    I don't think anyone is saying legalization will result in a Utopia. It's a psychoactive substance. It should be approached with caution and education. It can provide many benefits, but there is still certainly another side to that coin. Everyone reacts to it in their own way, and for many, it's not favorable. It's still ridiculous that it's illegal, though. FWIW, I also think other substances such as LSD, mushrooms, and ecstasy should at least be studied more for their potential therapeutic benefits. I'm not saying those should be fully legal for anyone, but I think they merit more consideration for use in the treatment of various mental health ailments.

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    As a Libertarian I support the full legalization of all drugs.

    On the other hand I don't get the desire to smoke while mountain biking. I guess I'd be perplexed if I was on a group ride and we had to stop every ten miles so people could pull out a pack of Kools and smoke a couple. I realize that tobacco doesn't have the same coolness as marijuana but other than the effects, what's the real difference?

    But then again I know people who drink beer after or during a ride and they seem to do alright. I think I'd throw up if I did the same.

    Just an overlap of subcultures I guess. I'm probably fortunate to live in Louisiana where mountain biking is fairly uncommon and there are not enough riders to form the critical mass necessary to ignite a subculture.

    Plenty of people here "ignite," however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Thought View Post
    You mean the "Ganjala?"

    I can't believe no one has mentioned vaporizing yet. You are ALL behind the times. Smoking is so … smokey. Gross. Smoking makes me all hazy and dumb, but I can vape or eat a small medicinal hard candy and function well. Take care of your lungs. Edibles, vaping, or tinctures are the way to go.



    Anyone who looks down at responsible cannabis use, but continues to condone alcohol use is either terribly uninformed or a hypocrite. Alcohol a far worse threat than cannabis.
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    I'm looking forward to some free time to actually read through this whole thread. Every post I read was the opposite of the one before it. Some don't get the whole toking while riding and some are all for it. Me well I don't have a problem with anyone doing what they enjoy doing. I've been there done that although as stated life moves forward and I like to stay employed so I don't indulge. Nothing wrong IMO of anyone else doing it on the trail whether with my group or not it doesn't bother me. As long as your respectful of any children around what's the big deal. Who gives a
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBMILES View Post
    There are a lot of cases of lung cancer in this country and they aren't smokers of anything.
    You're right. But I never mentioned lung cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailuropoda View Post
    As a Libertarian I support the full legalization of all drugs
    I don't quite know how I feel about "full legalization of all drugs," but the decriminalization of all drugs in Portugal seems to have had a positive effect. I don't think it would ever be a good thing for highly addictive substances like meth or heroin to be legal, but those arrested for personal amounts shouldn't be treated as criminals, but as patients. This should be a health issue, not a criminal one.

    Big difference between legalization and decriminalization.

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    "Deep thought" you are right on point and I'm gonna give you some rep just for using the "Buddy Jesus" as your picture on the forum! Classic!
    I'm too friendly and have apparently given out too much rep in the last 24 hours. Good vibes and karma and sh!t coming your way, though. I promise, buddy.

    Oh, and it's the "Buddy Christ," man! Tighten up!

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    Be aware of your tolerance, be responsible, be respectful of others who don't, and enjoy your ride.. Ohh and as another mentioned, keep it on the DL to avoid issue. It's simple really.
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    I have friends that do and friends that dont. I personally dont but I dont mind drinking a fine brew on the trail once in awhile.
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    I guess that could be called , "TrailBlazing". I myself wouldnt, Id rather suck down a Monster BFC and then go nuts out there!

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    I used to blaze trails all the time back in the day. I've only had the opportunity a few times as of late, mainly because I've only been asked a few times and I never have any. Good times. What I have found for me is that it increases my sense of awareness and intense concentration, and laughs. I does decrease my need for speed though.
    I had a beer once in the middle of a ride with a group of new found friends. Rode faster then ever but washed out on a downhill and broke a couple ribs. Last time I do that. All's game after a ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juan_speeder View Post
    I like to smoke, but not when I ride. It makes me feel weak on the climbs and really timid on the downhills. I know plenty who can rip both up and down on the weed, though.

    While at home watching a movie with the wife and eating a good meal, now that's a fine time.

    I don't drink though, so to each their own.
    I've ridden with guys who go rip up and down Palomar Mountain on literbikes after toking up. You mountain bikers are a bunch of pussies.

    I don't smoke though so what do I know.

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    a fluffer

    In moderation, hell yeah.
    Sometimes just one toke greatly enhances the flow.

    And some trails are just made for a puff:

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    I reckon there was plenty of tokin' during those early days of mountain biking in northern California. In that sense, the two activities go together.

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    Not much has changed here in WA State, IMO. I live in the only county that has decided to maintain a ban on herb businesses though. If anything, the price has dropped. As for smoking on the trails. Best to know how it affects you before partaking. Also depends on what variety you've got packed, as some will heighten senses and others will slow you down, or leave you digging through the backpack for trail snacks.

    I don't think you'll see clueless kids out trying to get wasted on mtb's. Its probably more like responsible adults who enjoy the herb and know how to maintain.

    To each his own and respect everybody!

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    Where's Repack? I'm surprised he hasn't been by to let us know how he invented the act of mountain biking while blazing, simultaneously like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    references please?
    if you need references to know that alcohol impairs motor skills more than pot, you are one of the ignorant ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod
    references please?
    Quote Originally Posted by bigfruits
    if you need references to know that alcohol impairs motor skills more than pot, you are one of the ignorant ones
    if you inferred that to be anything other than a request that the studies claimed to be in existence be provided for examination, your reading comprehension skills are atrocious.

    snarking aside, thanks to our abysmal public education system you're probably not the only one to draw such a vacuous inference so i'll elaborate.

    there was a specific reason to ask for the studies. of course one was to see if they were peer-reviewed or merely "favorable" statistics cherry-picked and compiled by those with pro-spliff agenda and then coined as a "study".

    because there are many variables that must be considered in drawing such a conclusion another was to examine how the studies were conducted. including, but not limited to, the control groups, the dosing parameters/criteria, the parameters of measuring effect, methodology of measuring impairment, comparative physiology/etiology of impairment and resulting attributes/deficits, comparative half-life and resulting effects, implications of chronic use, and of course the ultimate methodology of reaching a conclusion.

    fact is, i haven't made a comment either way on the topic - though i will admit that in my 20's i smogged out before, during, and after riding (9th street dirt jumps, urban bmx, mtb) and more often than not had margarita or cape cod in my water bottles.

    also ran the capitol 10k one year with a time of under 45 min. this after being up for a couple days doing coke and smoking 3 newports and drinking 2 shiner bocks during the run. while everyone else was stretching and limbering up at the starting line i sat around doing pipe hits and swilling bloody marys.

    although while in the moment i thought i was having the best time ever, it does bear mentioning it was a conclusion drawn after ingesting substances which impair judgment, cognition, and perception....
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    ignoramonancy!

    Consumables unchain the lungs. win/win.

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