If I could pos rep you again, I would.
Originally Posted by steveohio
There are such better ways to ingest it than to smoke it, though. If you don't smoke it, but use a smarter method, it's unlikely to cause any negative health issues.
Originally Posted by johnb
I don't think anyone is saying legalization will result in a Utopia. It's a psychoactive substance. It should be approached with caution and education. It can provide many benefits, but there is still certainly another side to that coin. Everyone reacts to it in their own way, and for many, it's not favorable. It's still ridiculous that it's illegal, though. FWIW, I also think other substances such as LSD, mushrooms, and ecstasy should at least be studied more for their potential therapeutic benefits. I'm not saying those should be fully legal for anyone, but I think they merit more consideration for use in the treatment of various mental health ailments.
Originally Posted by AZ
As a Libertarian I support the full legalization of all drugs.
On the other hand I don't get the desire to smoke while mountain biking. I guess I'd be perplexed if I was on a group ride and we had to stop every ten miles so people could pull out a pack of Kools and smoke a couple. I realize that tobacco doesn't have the same coolness as marijuana but other than the effects, what's the real difference?
But then again I know people who drink beer after or during a ride and they seem to do alright. I think I'd throw up if I did the same.
Just an overlap of subcultures I guess. I'm probably fortunate to live in Louisiana where mountain biking is fairly uncommon and there are not enough riders to form the critical mass necessary to ignite a subculture.
Plenty of people here "ignite," however.
"Deep thought" you are right on point and I'm gonna give you some rep just for using the "Buddy Jesus" as your picture on the forum! Classic!
Originally Posted by Deep Thought
I'm looking forward to some free time to actually read through this whole thread. Every post I read was the opposite of the one before it. Some don't get the whole toking while riding and some are all for it. Me well I don't have a problem with anyone doing what they enjoy doing. I've been there done that although as stated life moves forward and I like to stay employed so I don't indulge. Nothing wrong IMO of anyone else doing it on the trail whether with my group or not it doesn't bother me. As long as your respectful of any children around what's the big deal. Who gives a
(Y) <<< Rats ass what others are doing.
You're right. But I never mentioned lung cancer.
Originally Posted by MTBMILES
We here, in General Discussion, will only accept articles published by reputable peer review journals.
Originally Posted by steveohio
Good day sir,
Thank you for your time.
I don't quite know how I feel about "full legalization of all drugs," but the decriminalization of all drugs in Portugal seems to have had a positive effect. I don't think it would ever be a good thing for highly addictive substances like meth or heroin to be legal, but those arrested for personal amounts shouldn't be treated as criminals, but as patients. This should be a health issue, not a criminal one.
Originally Posted by Ailuropoda
Big difference between legalization and decriminalization.
I'm too friendly and have apparently given out too much rep in the last 24 hours. Good vibes and karma and sh!t coming your way, though. I promise, buddy.
Originally Posted by zgroove
Oh, and it's the "Buddy Christ," man! Tighten up!
Be aware of your tolerance, be responsible, be respectful of others who don't, and enjoy your ride.. Ohh and as another mentioned, keep it on the DL to avoid issue. It's simple really.
"We can always find excuses if we want to find them, but if we really want to do something, we have to just go."
I have friends that do and friends that dont. I personally dont but I dont mind drinking a fine brew on the trail once in awhile.
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I guess that could be called , "TrailBlazing". I myself wouldnt, Id rather suck down a Monster BFC and then go nuts out there!
I used to blaze trails all the time back in the day. I've only had the opportunity a few times as of late, mainly because I've only been asked a few times and I never have any. Good times. What I have found for me is that it increases my sense of awareness and intense concentration, and laughs. I does decrease my need for speed though.
I had a beer once in the middle of a ride with a group of new found friends. Rode faster then ever but washed out on a downhill and broke a couple ribs. Last time I do that. All's game after a ride.
In moderation, hell yeah.
Sometimes just one toke greatly enhances the flow.
And some trails are just made for a puff:
I reckon there was plenty of tokin' during those early days of mountain biking in northern California. In that sense, the two activities go together.
Not much has changed here in WA State, IMO. I live in the only county that has decided to maintain a ban on herb businesses though. If anything, the price has dropped. As for smoking on the trails. Best to know how it affects you before partaking. Also depends on what variety you've got packed, as some will heighten senses and others will slow you down, or leave you digging through the backpack for trail snacks.
I don't think you'll see clueless kids out trying to get wasted on mtb's. Its probably more like responsible adults who enjoy the herb and know how to maintain.
To each his own and respect everybody!
Oh, the stories I could tell of night rides, beer and grass.
Gone are the days we stopped to decide,
Where we should go,
We just ride...
Where's Repack? I'm surprised he hasn't been by to let us know how he invented the act of mountain biking while blazing, simultaneously like.
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if you need references to know that alcohol impairs motor skills more than pot, you are one of the ignorant ones
Originally Posted by monogod
if you inferred that to be anything other than a request that the studies claimed to be in existence be provided for examination, your reading comprehension skills are atrocious.
Originally Posted by monogod
snarking aside, thanks to our abysmal public education system you're probably not the only one to draw such a vacuous inference so i'll elaborate.
there was a specific reason to ask for the studies. of course one was to see if they were peer-reviewed or merely "favorable" statistics cherry-picked and compiled by those with pro-spliff agenda and then coined as a "study".
because there are many variables that must be considered in drawing such a conclusion another was to examine how the studies were conducted. including, but not limited to, the control groups, the dosing parameters/criteria, the parameters of measuring effect, methodology of measuring impairment, comparative physiology/etiology of impairment and resulting attributes/deficits, comparative half-life and resulting effects, implications of chronic use, and of course the ultimate methodology of reaching a conclusion.
fact is, i haven't made a comment either way on the topic - though i will admit that in my 20's i smogged out before, during, and after riding (9th street dirt jumps, urban bmx, mtb) and more often than not had margarita or cape cod in my water bottles.
also ran the capitol 10k one year with a time of under 45 min. this after being up for a couple days doing coke and smoking 3 newports and drinking 2 shiner bocks during the run. while everyone else was stretching and limbering up at the starting line i sat around doing pipe hits and swilling bloody marys.
although while in the moment i thought i was having the best time ever, it does bear mentioning it was a conclusion drawn after ingesting substances which impair judgment, cognition, and perception....
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I had a short, but enthusiastic chuckle at that, Moe. Strong work, buddy.
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