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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post
    Being good at memes... It's my cross to carry.
    I'm receiving no love for my memes and movie quotes over in the Off Camber "speed reading app" thread. Sticks > butts.

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    Them thar be some fancy two stepin words you got thar...can't understand a lick of it...damn edumaction types...ahhh damnIT..bong water on the carpet AGAIN...HONEY..get the damn shop vac again...and some of dat smelly air spray stuff...DAG NAb it
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    REDNECK ....I'm a RastafarianRedneck son :-) me no likey man made stuff, it be bad fer yah! Stick with nature and you can't go wrong.. If I want apples I'll eat one off the tree not open a can..dang CitySlickers. LOL

    Damn that quad shot I drank from starbucks is still kicken...nap time soon..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burt4x4 View Post
    REDNECK ....I'm a RastafarianRedneck son :-) me no likey man made stuff, it be bad fer yah! Stick with nature and you can't go wrong.. If I want apples I'll eat one off the tree not open a can..dang CitySlickers. LOL

    Damn that quad shot I drank from starbucks is still kicken...nap time soon..
    Git er done!

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    OMG...my eyes my eyes LOL
    Killin me Bro LOL hahahaaaa
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    That's you and me, Burt. Ruling the streets. Livin. I wonder where we're going?!

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    420 and Mountain Biking

    I can't even imagine getting high and riding a mountain bike. I don't smoke but I'm an average rider at best, sober.
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    you know when youre playing call of duty and youre doing ok, maybe averaging 1.0 k/d ratio? then you take a couple of rips in between maps and now youre getting headshots on almost every kill, sending out helicopters, launching missiles and ****?

    its kind of like that when you bike high. your brain goes on autopilot and youre in a zone. grin gets wider. you stop thinking about the sketchy roots ahead of you and float over them.

    these are my experiments, cannot reference.

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    The "Zone". This is something that many riders that partake in smoking actually mention quite a bit. The level of focus is either intensified or the opposite, in which you cannot focus and start to defocus on the trail and the hazards around you. From my experience when I used to smoke and ride, it was my breathing and cadence that improved quite a bit. Almost to the point that you could set a pace and keep it no matter what conditions and change in grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Thought View Post
    That's you and me, Burt. Ruling the streets. Livin. I wonder where we're going?!
    I don't know? It was your idea to go this way?
    Now push faster so I can shoot at something!! Take me to the park, kill me a squirrel....
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    Quote Originally Posted by zgroove View Post
    The "Zone". This is something that many riders that partake in smoking actually mention quite a bit. The level of focus is either intensified or the opposite, in which you cannot focus and start to defocus on the trail and the hazards around you. From my experience when I used to smoke and ride, it was my breathing and cadence that improved quite a bit. Almost to the point that you could set a pace and keep it no matter what conditions and change in grade.
    Or you could have just imagined it. It's a well known phenomenon that people think they are witty and profound when intoxicated when objectively they are not. Of course nowadays I tend to see people at the extreme ends of the intoxication scale.

    Just sayin.'

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    The "zone" is enhanced by artificial stupidity. By cutting out that obnoxious stuff going on in your head, you know... thoughts, one can completely focus on the trail for hours at a time.

    And when that mental chatter starts back up? Smoke break to restupify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailuropoda View Post
    Or you could have just imagined it. It's a well known phenomenon that people think they are witty and profound when intoxicated when objectively they are not. Of course nowadays I tend to see people at the extreme ends of the intoxication scale.

    Just sayin.'
    I do recall though that on average, I would just hit the "J" no more than 2-3 times. Just enough to take the edge off but still be in control, laugh and BS with all the riders and keep the pace steady rippin. I have ran into people that may be on the "extreme" end of things, such as what you said. They are usually the ones that take a smoke break and…1/2 an hour later start riding again. LOL! The riders I rode with were usually local mountain folk, shop mechanics, and soul riders. "Imagine", probably not, this was Reality MTB.

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    I'm limited in my use because of my job, but there isn't anything better than getting in the zone and enjoying nature and flowing through some singletrack...except for maybe the beer in the parking lot (or driveway) after the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekbob View Post
    Instant "in the zone" and pain doesn't hurt so bad.
    definitely but the problem i am having is heart rate ceiling is being reached too easily which can make me climb slowly until later in the ride.Downhill not even an issue. There are other factors i'm sure like sleep and nutrition and obviously dosage

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    Quote Originally Posted by natrat View Post
    definitely but the problem i am having is heart rate ceiling is being reached too easily which can make me climb slowly until later in the ride.Downhill not even an issue. There are other factors i'm sure like sleep and nutrition and obviously dosage
    Consumables unchain the lungs.

    Reducing your body's ability to process oxygen by sucking smoke into your lungs preride is not going to help you climb hills.

    Not to say i haven't done it.... But i have no illusions about what it does to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRingGrinder View Post
    Consumables unchain the lungs.

    Reducing your body's ability to process oxygen by sucking smoke into your lungs preride is not going to help you climb hills.

    Not to say i haven't done it.... But i have no illusions about what it does to me.
    BUT, edibles leave me in a puddle on the couch. A nice sativa in a pipe and you are all jacked to go ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musikron View Post
    BUT, edibles leave me in a puddle on the couch.
    Well, yea... and if you hork an entire 1/8th you will be a puddle on the couch too!

    The candy bars dispensaries sell have a consistent strength and squares so you can consume a consistent dose. Know edibles creep, eat ONLY one square as you load your bike up to ride and by the time you are at the trail head you have a nice fuzz going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musikron View Post
    A nice sativa in a VAPORIZER and you are all jacked to go ride.
    fify, lambs bread ftw

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    to the guy who said sex > a bowl on a chairlift......
    Pics or it didn't happen. Seems dangerous. Like the 20 ft high club?
    Keep trying to do the awesomest thing you've ever done.

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    I am impressed with the resilience of the pro(ride+420) contingent on this topic. I would have expected them to have forgotten about the existence of this thread a while ago... It must be that modern weed that sharpens your senses. Because it sure didn't do that in the 70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borabora View Post
    I am impressed with the resilience of the pro(ride+420) contingent on this topic. I would have expected them to have forgotten about the existence of this thread a while ago... It must be that modern weed that sharpens your senses. Because it sure didn't do that in the 70s.
    Im not completely sure what you are talking about....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRingGrinder View Post
    Im not completely sure what you are talking about....
    Ok, it was a joke poking fun at:
    a) the tendency for people who smoke weed to lose track of the conversation topic,
    b) the 70s generation that supposedly was dazed and confused,
    c) the claim that smoking pot can sharpen your senses

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    From a recent MTBR article: "We are not botanists but it is our business to understand this evil weed as it affects our mountain biking. No other trail hazard out there can be as damaging and bothersome to our riding."

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    If mountain biking is about recreation and a little spliff enhances the experience, what's the harm?

    Mountain biking didn't appear on anyone's' horizon in the Midwest until about 1983, but most of us had dirt bikes, Jeeps or trucks, the first Honda ATC's, etc. We'd head for the wilds, stop and "load up", and usually sit around in the sun, shirtless, when the weather was warm. Now we're all covered in pink scars where the dermatologists are hacking skin cancer off of us.

    And that leads me to an important point: I think MTB'ing for the under 40 crowd has become about the adrenaline rush of speed, skill, and talent. Maybe its just the politically rightward lurch, but not as many of that younger crowd ride to experience the day in the way we did, but many ride to experience the rush. When I am high, I am happy to take in every molecule of the experience...at 60% of the speed I'm capable of when clean. I see and remember every pebble and leaf, even ascribe different moods to the north side of a hill than the southern exposure. I am not much interested in the adrenaline, or the endorphins; an afternoon on a blue trail is immensely satisfying in a way that sometimes equals clearing a tech-y trail.

    I often encounter younger riders at the bottom of a downhill run, celebrating how they did on tech . I often encounter old farts like me at the top of a hill...catching our breath for sure, but also taking in a view, celebrating still being alive. That ain't such a bad thing, eh?

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    I know people who do it on rides, but I have never done it myself while riding. I do feel more focused, so it might actually help.
    But I would rather just ride, not really a big fan of bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borabora View Post
    Ok, it was a joke poking fun at:
    a) the tendency for people who smoke weed to lose track of the conversation topic,
    b) the 70s generation that supposedly was dazed and confused,
    c) the claim that smoking pot can sharpen your senses
    I was joking back implying that;
    a) i was stoned and had lost track of the conversation topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRingGrinder View Post
    I was joking back implying that;
    a) i was stoned and had lost track of the conversation topic.
    I was wondering about that possibility but then your response seemed too articulate. So, it's the new weed after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borabora View Post
    I was wondering about that possibility but then your response seemed too articulate. So, it's the new weed after all.
    No, not the new weed at all. I was not stoned when i posted that.

    Now i am, and i am blown away by this thread. Completely forgot it was here or writing any of my posts in it. In fact, im not sure what this thread is even about.

    BTW, what the hell does 420 actually mean? Ive heard it used it for years but any time i have asked i get a different answer. Last guy i asked told me some BS story about San Rafael High School.

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    Smoking is a very bad habit for those of us that like to use their lungs for thing like breathing. It's all those products of incomplete combustion that are so very reactive and like to react with compounds like your DNA in your lung cells.

    I recommend brownies with lots of chocolate chips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRingGrinder View Post
    BTW, what the hell does 420 actually mean? Ive heard it used it for years but any time i have asked i get a different answer. Last guy i asked told me some BS story about San Rafael High School.
    wikipedia says :

    "A widely discussed story says that a group of teenagers in San Rafael, California,[4][5] calling themselves the Waldos,[6] because, "their chosen hang-out spot was a wall outside the school",[7] used the term in connection with a fall 1971 plan to search for an abandoned cannabis crop that they had learned about.[6][8] The Waldos designated the Louis Pasteur statue on the grounds of San Rafael High School as their meeting place, and 4:20 p.m. as their meeting time.[7] The Waldos referred to this plan with the phrase "4:20 Louis". After multiple attempts to find the crop failed, their phrase eventually was shortened to simply "4:20", which ultimately evolved into a codeword that the teens used to mean pot-smoking in general.[8] Mike Edison says that Steve Hager of High Times was responsible for taking the story about the Waldos to "mind-boggling, cult like extremes" and "suppressing" all other stories about the origin of the term.[9]

    Hager wrote "Stoner Smart or Stoner Stupid?" in which he called for 4:20 p.m. to be the socially accepted hour of the day to consume cannabis.[10] He attributes the early spread of the phrase to Grateful Dead followers, who were also linked to the city of San Rafael.[10]

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfruits View Post
    you know when youre playing call of duty and youre doing ok, maybe averaging 1.0 k/d ratio? then you take a couple of rips in between maps and now youre getting headshots on almost every kill, sending out helicopters, launching missiles and ****?.
    That's a good ratio, particularly if you're playing online. I get smoked playing live but am improving. Always feels like the opposing team is stacked, and I can barely regenerate without getting popped.
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    "definitely but the problem i am having is heart rate ceiling is being reached too easily which can make me climb slowly until later in the ride."

    That's why I always waited until reaching the top of the big climbs to take that smoke break. I think that doing so may have kept me alive in my younger years (both road riding and mountain biking) - the extra paranoia probably made me ride the brakes just a little more than I might have in an un-altered state. It's only a theory.

    Besides, it is always nicer to take a break where you have a nice view of the surrounding mountains and valleys (and any approaching rangers....).

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    I'd been taking longer and longer breaks. Was smoking at home in the evenings, mainly. I finally quit altogether, at least for now. Going on "day 48." Shooting for a minimum of 6 months, maybe a a year, or until it becomes legal. Then maybe vaping, instead of smoking, to take it easy on my lungs.
    Now I've got to watch my speed when driving... I use my cruise control on the hwy. The legal speed limit now seems awfully slow.
    Nobody I know ever called it "420," except for some cops, but back in 1969 one of my buddies scored some stuff that was supposed to be from Michoacan, but we thought it was called "mesh-muh-can." We just called it "weed" or "dope." We all thought we were gonna get drafted, any way, and sent to Nam to get our asses shot off. Dylan's "Masters of War" (Freewheelin' album), his classic "Rainy Day Women," and Country Joe & the Fish's "Viet Nam Rag" were favorite hits. I lucked out and won "the lottery!" Yay! Home free! Some of my buddies weren't so lucky.
    I am really enjoying having a clear consciousness and sharp memory all the time, as well as a higher energy level, over being stoned. Its like a "new high."

    It never helped or enhanced my athletic performance, though. Never. Might have helped out some folks with naturally weird brain chemistry, though.

    Don't know about the video games, though. Never got into 'em. I used to like "Pong." When Pacman came along, I thought gobbling up dots was just plain stupid and boring. I preferred playing foosball and shooting pool.

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    I think that most folks smoke less and less as they get older. I will never truly quit, but I haven't smoked anything in a couple of months at least. Typically I smoke on long hikes or bike rides, out of habit maybe? I think that it helps me zone out the discomfort of the pack or saddle so that I can tune in more to the experience of being out in nature. I am sure that is just a rationalization, but it works for me. And being a resident of Washington state, I am not breaking any laws (okay, smoking on federal land is still a violation but I have always been careful about where and when I do it).

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    bradkay, although most municipal police depts and county sheriff's depts here in WA will no longer bother issuing citations for smoking pot in public, there are still a few holdouts, since recreational use has not been legalized, yet. My local cop shop (Westport) still frowns on public smoking, and (last Fall) issued a citation to a woman who was smoking a joint outside of a tavern, in the "smoking area."

    The WA State Patrol might want to test your blood, and they will issue a DUI for that, if you are over the limit, now that they have testing standards for it. They can actually legally make you take a blood test now, without a warrant. They have been pulling folks over for "driving erratically" and then testing them. It can be expensive.

    So its still only "quasi-legal" here at this time.

    The Port of Willapa in Pacific County had lost a major tennant, and needing a new source of revenue, they recently turned some large vacant buildings into legal grow operations for medicinal pot, and they hope that recreational use becomes legal here soon so that they can expand and bring more $$ into the depressed local economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankout View Post
    That's a good ratio, particularly if you're playing online. I get smoked playing live but am improving. Always feels like the opposing team is stacked, and I can barely regenerate without getting popped.
    its hard to break even at first, especially when you dont know the maps, dont know where to look.

    waste another week or so of your life on it and your avg will be >1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by natrat View Post
    wikipedia says :

    "A widely discussed story says that a group of teenagers in San Rafael, California,[4][5] calling themselves the Waldos,[6] because, "their chosen hang-out spot was a wall outside the school",[7] used the term in connection with a fall 1971 plan to search for an abandoned cannabis crop that they had learned about.[6][8] The Waldos designated the Louis Pasteur statue on the grounds of San Rafael High School as their meeting place, and 4:20 p.m. as their meeting time.[7] The Waldos referred to this plan with the phrase "4:20 Louis". After multiple attempts to find the crop failed, their phrase eventually was shortened to simply "4:20", which ultimately evolved into a codeword that the teens used to mean pot-smoking in general.
    One of these guys is a friend. They had used the term in a series of letters to each other that were all dated years before the term came into popular use or appeared anywhere else, which documented their claim.

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    PP... I know that it is still illegal to smoke in public. Having smoked off and on for over 40 years I don't worry about that too much because I have always been discreet. I also don't drive stoned, or drunk, because I prefer to be fully aware when I am behind the wheel of any automobile. But when I am on a long bike ride (road or off-road) or hike that is when I like to smoke a little. Just enough to smooth things out if you get my drift. I don't like getting stupid on the stuff which is why I am looking forward to the real stores opening up. The folks who know what they are doing can sell you pot that leaves you feeling more energetic than wasted, and that is what I want...

    BTW: possessing it for recreational use became "legal" on Dec 17. What is not yet legal for recreational use is purchasing, growing or selling it - and thus the "quasi-legal" status it has in our state right now. IIRC, that should change by mid-summer.
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    I live in Cruz, so its fairly omnipresent. I'll usually partake/offer. If I know it will offend or if there's kiddies around, I'll abstain.

    Never had any issues except once with a pal's churchy friend who said "Is that...marijuana..?" Uh, yeah.

    "What if there's a ranger?" Um, than I could be cited.

    "I don't think it works that way." Like what? You'll be arrested as an accessory to pot smoking?

    Needless to say, my pal didn't bring him around after that.

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    Studies show that can be true for occasional users, but as far as the chronic users, their driving at least, wasn't largely effected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reposado Man View Post
    Studies show that can be true for occasional users, but as far as the chronic users, their driving at least, wasn't largely effected.
    references please.
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    Saw it on the CNN's Ganjay Supta special on Weed.. for what thats worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reposado Man View Post
    Saw it on the CNN's Ganjay Supta special on Weed.. for what thats worth
    not worth much at all, actually. it's one thing to say "i saw it on t.v." and quite another to say "studies show".

    when saying the later one should be prepared to provide said studies for examination and review. in absence of this, the alleged "facts" are anything but and remain pure conjecture/opinion.
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    I also saw a brief on my local fox news about this; I know fox schmews, but I like the weather guy. They simply showed some volunteers driving around a parking lot on a course set up by the police. There was an officer in the car with the driver and others supervising. I would say it was an exercise, but like Mono has stated, it's far from a comprehensively controlled study. It is interesting that driving ability may not be as impaired in chronic users; however, without a real controls/baseline it doesn't mean all that much.
    I've seen similar exercises with liquor/beer and snowmobiles.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Same goes for beer drinkers... one who drinks beer everyday will build a tolerance. The Cheep date drinker..one who drinks 3 - 4 times a month will be impared way more sooner than the everyday drinker....just saying..it goes with everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    when saying the later one should be prepared to provide said studies for examination and review.
    Really? That's the new standard of interwebz posturing? Journal published peer review studies that are to be examined and reviewed by this audience? Not sure if that's realistic in a mtbr forum thread on '420 and mtbing'.

    Anyway - NORML has some selective quotes from cited studies: Marijuana and Driving: A Review of the Scientific Evidence

    Feel free to research them if you are interested in familiarizing yourself with these studies.

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    This is a damn mtb forum about potsmoking, not a thesis. Sir.

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