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    Prototype Fisher?????

    Read the photo caption in this article....

    We'll find out soon enough... but WTF could it be?? "Prototype Fisher"??? I'm assuming a 29er, but maybe not??? All he mentions on the actual article is that it's a hardtail...

    http://singletrack.competitor.com/20...l-growler_8209


    At this weekend's Original Growler race in Gunnison, Colorado Travis Brown won't be on a Trek with drop bars, as he was at the 2009 Leadville Trail 100. Instead he'll look to defend his Growler crown on a Fisher prototype MTB. Photo by Kurt Hoy
    Next weekend Brown is racing the Growler on a hard tail for the first time. Itís a prototype Gary Fisher he wants to race test, explaining that racing is the only way he can really get a feel for the functionality and ride of a developmental ride.

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    Hmmm maybe a steel frame G2 bike???
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    I'm going out on a limb here... but thinking mmaaaayyybbbe a carbon fiber hardtail G2 26er....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MI_canuck
    I'm going out on a limb here... but thinking mmaaaayyybbbe a carbon fiber hardtail G2 26er....
    Still not a CF fan.

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    Its going to be a carbon 29er SS with dropouts which don't slip

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    All you got to do is look around a bit...

    http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/12297...77609127_EDp8k

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason745
    All you got to do is look around a bit...

    http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/12297...77609127_EDp8k

    uh, I see who I think is Travis... on a black framed 29er (looks aluminum but too hard to tell), but otherwise, can't really see $h!t... you got the scoop on this?? SPEAK!!

    If it's carbon, I'm thinking this is an OCLV Superfly HT (currently, only the 100 is OCLV, but HT SF is not...)



    PS - I see gripshift... I HOPE that means 10-speed gripshift!

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    You can make some "maybe" conclusions from the picture.

    The BB area looks to be just like the SuperFly Carbon hardtail.
    The Fork to me looks like 100mm.
    Crank looks to be Shimano double of some sort.

    Seems a OCLV, 100mm, 2x10 would be a move I could see on the Fly hardtail.

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    Found a few pictures of the prototype bike. Can't really tell anything different about it though. Looks to be an aluminum frame. Maybe an updated genesis geometry? 100mm travel fork? Found at http://singletrack.competitor.com/20...ized/8350_8350 towards the bottom of the page.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Prototype Fisher?????-gf-prototype1.jpg  

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    Hmmm appears to have a "E2" head tube for a tapered steer tube fork also.
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    IF that's the proto bike he talked about in the article... makes sense as it being an "Aluminum Superfly". Let's face it, a Superfly isn't cheap, yet a Paragon - the next step down - isn't exactly a race oriented bike like the Superfly is.

    Hmmmm....

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    Hmmm..... the Alum bike above does not look like the bike in this picture. BB junction looks different to me.

    http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/12297...27_EDp8k-X3-LB

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    True, this makes me think that we are possibly getting ready to see G3 HT geometry.

    He could be testing the AL and Carbon versions.
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    I realize these are prototype photos here, but I think Fisher should take ques from this prototype and go for a more subdued look on their frames going forward. The last iteration fo frames with Fisher splattered on them about 15 times was a little bit overkill. Sometimes less is more.

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    Would the initial proto's be in Aluminum rather than carbon because it's less expensive to wield together a few tubes?

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    there's a few photos of Travis... bent seat stays (like many are doing, to soften the ride)...


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    closeup of headtube:


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    Looks alot like my "prototype"....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by driver bob
    Would the initial proto's be in Aluminum rather than carbon because it's less expensive to wield together a few tubes?
    No - since TB isn't wanting to test geo or fit. He's wanting to put lots of durability miles on it. An aluminum version of a carbon frame would provide zero feedback in that respect.

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    You can see integrated BB bearings and E2 headset. I want to know that the circular thing is right above the rear dropout.
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    I see that.... a pivot maybe? to alleviate some stresses in the rear dropout area maybe... just a crazy theory...

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    Maybe Trek has decided that in order to keep selling mountain bikes, they must introduce a 29er...

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    Right, thinking it is Trek, will fall price wise between the GF Paragon and Superfly. Alum. with E2 head tube and a G2 fork?

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    Hmmm, interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattomoto
    Hmmm, interesting...
    c'mon you can do better than that

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddre
    c'mon you can do better than that
    Stay tuned...

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    Good video. Matt the bike geek. Sounds like myself only I started wrenching when I was 30 (15 years ago) with my very first mnt. bike....definite bike geek here as well.

    As far as the new bike this summer....carbon, light (duh), 29er. GF already has a HT and a FS light racing bicycles. I am wondering hard as to where in the GF line this new bike could fit. It either replaces an older design (OCLV HT) or.....Yea, my bet is on an OCLV HT to replace the existing Superfly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet
    my bet is on an OCLV HT to replace the existing Superfly.
    I agree, sound's like this is what it's going to be.
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    The only other option would be a carbon Roscoe 29er or Rumblefish though this is probably not as likely. The way Matt said "light" when he was describing the "new bike" did not sound like he was describing something all-mountain.

    If it is a new Superfly, I sure hope they make a XXL with 100mm travel. My bank account is shivering at the idea....although I would be even more excited to own a light carbon FS trail bike with Fisher geometry.

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    Very interesting vid... I was expecting a high end aluminum bike, but carbon it is...

    OCLV makes a lot of sense, but that *could* mean even higher price point than the $4K SF... There's a huge gap in Fisher's lineup in the 2500-3000 range. You have Paragon, then SF. No in between. Was hoping that's what this new proto would be.

    In any case, very stoked to now find out what it will be!!

    I sure hope it's not a creak machine like the current Superfly is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeatherMan
    You can make some "maybe" conclusions from the picture.

    The BB area looks to be just like the SuperFly Carbon hardtail.
    The Fork to me looks like 100mm.
    Crank looks to be Shimano double of some sort.

    Seems a OCLV, 100mm, 2x10 would be a move I could see on the Fly hardtail.
    http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/12297...77597120_uTbSG
    Definitely Travis Brown, Definitely Carbon and most definitely 100mm. We can only assume it must be OCLV and the puzzle is solved
    Good work guys and thanks Jason for the find on the pics.

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    Fork isn't tapered, but neither is the one in the alum. model above while the frame is E2.
    Can't tell if this frame is E2 or not with the number plate in the way.

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    Cats out of the bag... meow

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattomoto
    Cats out of the bag... meow
    Yes it is! The tapered ST is special although I don't think the direct mount FD will accomodate Q-Rotor rings. What do you think Matt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet
    Yes it is! The tapered ST is special although I don't think the direct mount FD will accomodate Q-Rotor rings. What do you think Matt?
    Good question that I don't have an anwser for. I have seen Wells running those rings on his specy sworks that has a direct mount (little different bike and mount though).

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