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    Anyone with a Roscoe yet?

    I am trying to get some riding impressions of the Roscoe. Anyone have one yet? Whats the actual weight?

    Im buying my first FS next spring, and im starting to do a bit of research. I want to do a Fisher because i get EP deal through my work (rock climbing, and backpacking store, not a bike shop), and so far, my riding impressions with Fisher have been awesome. I loved the HiFi, and up until they announced the release of the Roscoe, i was set on getting an 09 HiFi Deluxe.

    I know the HiFi is lighter, which is good. Im a smaller rider (5'10" @ 155lbs), so i dont need anything too burly, but i love the idea of the ABP in the Roscoe. And it looks badass, especially compared to the 09 HiFi Deluxe...blah.

    So does anyone have a riding comparison, technical comparison, and opinion between the 09 HiFi Deluxe and Roscoe III

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    See if Francois (admin) will chat with you...he's ridden one. I know I haven't seen any here and we have 3 Fisher dealers locally.
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    Yes, I would be interested to hear what he has to say about it. Report back if you get a chance to chat with him.

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    The reviews by Francois were posted only a couple months ago.
    Look back a few post pages for threads started by him on this board.
    There were two posts, one started here and another one that pointed to the review posted elsewhere on this site.

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    I've owned a HiFi Pro for about two years now and got a chance to get a few hours in on a Roscoe this summer. IMO, it boils down to location/terrain. Where I live now (central IA) there is absolutely no need for the Roscoe. The bike really is like cheating. It climbed decently well (really well for something with that much travel) and is super fast downhill. I'll keep the HiFi for around here, though if I were to move out west again I'd give the Roscoe some serious consideration.

    ABP does make a difference, though I've not found the HiFi to have a ton of brake feedback. The pivot on the seatstay is close enough to the axle that there isn't much brake jack.

    Tough to go wrong with either one... I would say neither is a better bike, but that one is going to be better suited to your riding conditions and style.

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    Yea, i live in MO, which is similar terrain to IA i would think. Technical single track, but not huge downhills of big drops. Although id like to make it out west, maybe i'll just stick with the HiFi. Im pretty sure im gonna get to Demo both of them in November, and i cant wait!

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    I think these sound like really interesting bikes. I'm not sure what to expect from this new shock and I think the 15QR will be a nice change to the fork. And it looks like a rugged bike for a clyde like me.

    Definitely would be interested in some pics and a report if anyone has one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamer19
    I think these sound like really interesting bikes. I'm not sure what to expect from this new shock and I think the 15QR will be a nice change to the fork. And it looks like a rugged bike for a clyde like me.
    As another clyde, I'm looking at the Roscoe as a heavy XC / trail / light AM rig. Should be pretty good for general riding for us, but Fisher is still absent from the heavy AM / light FR / occasional DH run (think of bikes like the Giant Reign X, SC Nomad and Marin Quake) segment that I'm progressing into.
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    If you're in MO (I'm in kansas) and the trails are similar (which is what it sounds) the Roscoe will be totally overkill. I have a supercaliber and the pivot design is already very good, there's no noticeable brake jack.

    And they won't be available for a while still.

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    I was just in our local Fisher dealer picking up my wife's Hi-Fi and drueling over the new Rig and Hi-Fi 29ers, they said that the first Roscoes wouldn't be ariving until sometime in November (at least at his stores).

    I know it's not important, but I really like the paint jobs on the '09s too. There's a good lengthy write up on it in the newest Mountain Bike Action magazine if you get a chance to check that out.

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    Called in my LBS today & asked if any news on my roscoe, delivery date 3-11 08. :-)
    this is in the uk, however we shall see !!

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    I just finished riding a Roscoe at a Factory Demo this afternoon and the thing was awesome. I currently have an '08 EX 7 and the Roscoe feels like a Cadillac comparatively speaking. I'm a pretty big guy and the Roscoe just fit. I went to my LBS after the demo to inquire about ordering one and he looked it up and said that the first deliveries are scheduled for 12-15-08. I don't know if I'll be able to wait that long.

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    Chevin Cycles in Otley (UK) have one on show and a demo!

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    ayup thats not that far from me & i will give them a call cheers for headsup :-)

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    Not yet but I want one bad. Can't wait to try one at my lbs.

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    I rode one over the weekend at a demo day in IL. I could ride a hardtail for everything in IL but like the squish. Coming from a 2004 Kona Coiler the Roscoe was lighter, faster, smother through the travel, really just about perfect. I'll be making some changes to my rig after riding the Roscoe but if I had the money I'd be ordering one asap.
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    I got to ride one extensively in Wisconsin for Trek World. Honestly, it's probably the best trail bike with 6 inches of travel I have ever ridden. The geometry feels amazing tight and stable despite the travel. The double barrel shock with the new Fox RP24 fork just makes it fly. I was not a fan of GF for the longest time. But this bike simply does everything I could possibly need. The ABP also adds in a ton of stiffness with ample braking when necessary. It's a bike you NEED to try for yourself.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm GF for the win!

    Quote Originally Posted by Seanbike
    I rode one over the weekend at a demo day in IL. I could ride a hardtail for everything in IL but like the squish. Coming from a 2004 Kona Coiler the Roscoe was lighter, faster, smother through the travel, really just about perfect. I'll be making some changes to my rig after riding the Roscoe but if I had the money I'd be ordering one asap.

    We could all ride hardtials out at palos . i couldnt help but thinking, while i was riding the roscoe (grinning from ear to ear mind you), that this bike, is so good, that it is going to make my local trails boring (sigh..and i helped make some of them, i should be ashamed) I took it through the roughest trail on my loop and had to slow down because the thing just kept eating the bumps up, i was afraid i would nail an oncoming rider (BUSY day on 2 way trails = bad for demoing the roscoe). I do think a roscoe 1 will be my next bike purchase.. i guess what also helps is that im a trek employee.. but liking the roscoe more than the fuel, hifi pro 29er, and the remedy was something that surprised me..
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    I am so glad it doesn't look like the new hifi's.

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    I know! Thats what makes me really want it lol
    I hate the new swoopy frame design on the new hifi's. it looks stupid.

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    I'm also looking to get a new FS for the spring. But i don't need the roscoe. That's too much travel. I basically just do trail riding/XC. I'm not sure about the new design of the HiFi. It's too swoopy but i rode an 08 and loved it so i've wanted a hifi deluxe since before i saw the new design. I'm seriously looking at the giant Trance X2 though but i don't like the look of that one either.

    I figure i'm getting it to ride not to look at.

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    IDK, as much as i dont think i'd need the Roscoe, I grew up doing BMX and dirt jumping as well as Moto-X, and i LOVE hitting jumps and doing big drops, as best as i can find in MO, so I think i could probably use a Roscoe, also, i cant wait to go out west and so some real All Mountain runs...

    In the end, i will probably just end up getting a HiFi Deluxe, although I cant wait to do the Fisher Demo Day in November in STL to test out the new 09 HiFi's and the Roscoe!

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    There's a GF bike demo day at our local trail on November 8th & 9th (10 am - 4pm Dryer road in Victor if anyone lives near Rochester NY), and they may have some Roscoes out to demo. Cant' wait to demo that thing, I'm looking for a new DS bike to race on so the Roscoe may be in my future...

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    Rode one yesterday and loved it. It was so much better than the Remedy I was there to try (demo day). The thing I noticed the most was how stiff and tight the bike was, hard to believe its 140mm travel. It was also light without losing grip or feeling like the rear end was sliding around. Its a lot of coin but Im considering the Roscoe 1. Currently on a Cannodale Prophet.

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    Here is my new Roscoe II!!!!!!
    Absolutely love it, best bike I ever had.
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    Just kidding!

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    recived call yesterday saying that mine was still crossing the atlantic :-(
    new due date 3-12-08.
    still, it will make a great xmas present :-)

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    Im really excited to ride on this coming weekend. Trek/Fisher is having a Demo day in my city, and they are supposed to have the Roscoe's there. I cant wait to check it out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooleymtnbiker1
    Just kidding!
    You suck!! Now I have to wipe the drool off my face.

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    Welp. Rode the Roscoe III today, and it was pretty good. From my years of Moto-X trail riding, it really reminded me of my dirtbike, especially when compared back to back with the much faster/nimble EX9.9 Carbon that i rode later today. The trails we rode were really covered in leaves, so it was hard to feel how nimble the Roscoe could have been, but aside from the extremely wide handlebars, it felt pretty cool. It was VERY plush and soft landing, and climbed decent, although not as nice at the Carbon Trek. I was actually fairly surprised at how light the Roscoe actually was. I was expecting a very porky bike, but i was pleasantly surprised when i did pick it up. Bike is absolutely Gorgeous, i truly love the White on the III model, very impressive looking. Bike rode effortlessly over some pretty technical rock/root sections on the local single track that i rode, stuff that usually stops me on my hardtail. And was pretty stable going downhill on washed out sections of trail. I really enjoyed it, but not anything dramatic like "OMG, GF reinvented the MTB" kinda awesome. Would be a great bike for someone riding single track that wants to so some bigger drops and jumps, or has plans to do some trips somewhere outside of the midwest where you could do some nice "All Mountain" riding. Cause it faired pretty good on single track, but no where near as fast as Treks EX9.9 Carbon.

    Unfortunately, i wasnt able to compare it to an aluminum HIFI back to back like i really wanted to, but i really enjoyed the Roscoe. I dont know if it is "too much bike" for the Missouri single track that i commonly ride, but it would be nice to be able to have a bike to take out west, and ride some beefier trails. I am still in the air though "HiFi Deluxe vs. Roscoe I". Good thing i cant afford anything 'til Springtime, haha.

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    The shop I work at just got our Roscoe 2's this past saturday.






    The bike has a lot of travel in the front kinda feels like too much travel compared to the rear. The adjustable shock corrects this by setting it to 100mm for cross country riding which I do mostly. I plan on getting some rougher riding on the bike tomorrow. The 19" Roscoe 2 with candy pedals weighs in at 30.04 lbs.

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    I rode one Saturday at our local Demo day here in Bent Creek, WNC. It is a sweet bike, I put it through a very rooty trail with some rooty climbs. I was very impressed with it. I noticed very little BOB to be a 6" travel bike. I cranked the travel down on the fork and put it in pro-pedal, it soaked up the roots of the climb without feeling like I was on a diving board. Then I turned down hill and it was sooo plush. Very Nice Bike, nite and day difference from my 2004 Cake 3. It was honestly more bike than I need though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky
    I rode one Saturday at our local Demo day here in Bent Creek, WNC. It is a sweet bike, I put it through a very rooty trail with some rooty climbs. I was very impressed with it. I noticed very little BOB to be a 6" travel bike. I cranked the travel down on the fork and put it in pro-pedal, it soaked up the roots of the climb without feeling like I was on a diving board. Then I turned down hill and it was sooo plush. Very Nice Bike, nite and day difference from my 2004 Cake 3. It was honestly more bike than I need though.
    Do you think it would be too much bike for the trails in eastern NC? I mostly ride at the coast now but am going to be moving back to the Raleigh area soon. The trails in Raleigh are pretty similar to trails in and around the Charlotte area. I mostly ride XC trails but am looking for a frame that is a little more beefy. How low can you set the travel?

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    you can set the front down to 100mm.

    Im kinda in the same boat, I know i dont need more than 120mm of travel, but i kinda want a beefier stronger frame and set. But IDK if its worth gaining the extra 3 or 4 lbs over the HiFi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenkiS14
    you can set the front down to 100mm.

    Im kinda in the same boat, I know i dont need more than 120mm of travel, but i kinda want a beefier stronger frame and set. But IDK if its worth gaining the extra 3 or 4 lbs over the HiFi.
    The Roscoe 2 and 3 have the adjustable forks. My 2008 Hifi Deluxe weighed 28.4 lbs. tubeless with Maxxis Ignitor tires and like I said the Roscoe weighs 30.04 stock on the 19" frame. There really isn't too much of a feel of a weight difference as there is in the geometry. The Roscoe is bigger than the Hifi. The wide tires and longer travel in the suspension also differ the feel in the ride. If you are looking at the Roscoe and the Hifi I would say try to ride a Hifi and a Roscoe before you make any decisions. I loved the Hifi when I got it but I just sold mine for a Roscoe. The Roscoe 1 may be a better comparison as far as price and components depending on what Hifi you are looking at.

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    Yea, thats the direct comparison im looking at is the HiFi Deluxe vs. Roscoe I.

    I'd love a 2 or 3, but i wont be able to budget that.

    I was really mad that i didnt have time to hop on the HiFi aluminum bike that was at the demo day this past weekend, IDK man, I think i just might end up getting a Roscoe 1, if for no other reason the color and frame of the 09 HiFi deluxe looks retarded lol. And if the Roscoe is only within a pound of the HiFi, then i think im gonna go with the Roscoe. I really enjoyed it this weekend. I was thinking the HiFi would be around 26lbs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by droptopchevy
    My 2008 Hifi Deluxe weighed 28.4 lbs. tubeless with Maxxis Ignitor tires and like I said the Roscoe weighs 30.04 stock on the 19" frame.
    Depending on which Ignitors (http://www.maxxistires.com/Bicycle/M...n/Ignitor.aspx) you went with (2.35 vs 2.10 60tpi vs 2.1 120tpi), you might actually have increased the weight of your HiFi vs stock. The Jones XR tires are quite light - mine weighed in the mid 500's (grams) - (http://www.bontrager.com/model/02860/en)


    Quote Originally Posted by ZenkiS14
    I was thinking the HiFi would be around 26lbs....
    I've got my '08 HiFi Deluxe at 26.78 lbs right now (granted it's a Small), and although it's modified quite a bit, I'm at about a wash in terms of weight vs stock, since some mod parts like my bars and brakes are lighter, but grips and tires are a bit heavier vs stock.

    With light wheels, tires and maybe even crankset, I'm sure you could have a Large HiFi in the 25's no problem.


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    Yea, i think im leaning towards roscoe right now. I would be a Medium Frame, and i think a wheel set, an XT crank, and a few other XT pieces would put the Roscoe in HiFi territory easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenkiS14
    Yea, i think im leaning towards roscoe right now. I would be a Medium Frame, and i think a wheel set, an XT crank, and a few other XT pieces would put the Roscoe in HiFi territory easy.
    Just remember that with the Roscoe it has QR15 thru axle. There are adapters from 20mm to QR15, but I am now selling my Mavic Crossmax wheelset from my Hifi cause they won't work on the Roscoe or my Rig.

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    hmmmm......I didnt even think about that. Are there much limitations on the QR15 axle wheels? Thats all new stuff to me....

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    How the F did you get one already at your shop. My shop has been waiting forever and I still can't get one even though I am an employee cause there aren't any 19's !!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky
    I rode one Saturday at our local Demo day here in Bent Creek, WNC. It is a sweet bike, I put it through a very rooty trail with some rooty climbs. I was very impressed with it. I noticed very little BOB to be a 6" travel bike. I cranked the travel down on the fork and put it in pro-pedal, it soaked up the roots of the climb without feeling like I was on a diving board. Then I turned down hill and it was sooo plush. Very Nice Bike, nite and day difference from my 2004 Cake 3. It was honestly more bike than I need though.
    What trails did you ride...did u rock down Greenslick??

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    Its a new size thru axle. I'm waiting for the thule adapter to come out this January so I can use my fork mount roof rack.

    Forgot to mention with either bike I would recommend replacing the Bontrager tires. I'm not a fan of their tires as far as traction goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droptopchevy
    Its a new size thru axle. I'm waiting for the thule adapter to come out this January so I can use my fork mount roof rack.

    Forgot to mention with either bike I would recommend replacing the Bontrager tires. I'm not a fan of their tires as far as traction goes.
    Hmmm.....Do you think they are gonna start offering decent wheel sets in that 15mm axle? And i wonder if Yakima makes an adapter for it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooleymtnbiker1
    How the F did you get one already at your shop. My shop has been waiting forever and I still can't get one even though I am an employee cause there aren't any 19's !!!!!!!
    Sorry I missed this.
    We are one of the top 20 Trek dealers in the USA. Level 1 pricing and other little special offers.

    Zenki: I read in a mt biking magazine about the Crank Brother Iodine wheel having a QR 15 thru axle coming soon, but I just checked Crank Brothers website and I don't even see the Iodine yet. You can use a 20mm wheel and this : http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/180...mm-To-15mm.htm I'll see what I can find out about any QR15 wheel sets coming out.

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    Right on! Thanks man!

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    Waiting on Chris King to put their QR15 hubs out. Otherwise the bike is gona rock. I still can't believe someone already got a 19inch. NO FAIR

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    My buddy in AZ just weighed the Roscoe 1 that they got in stock : 30.56lbs. Not bad! Wheelset+crank+carbon bars+tires and i bet that could be a pretty easy 28lb bike!

    Im really think im gonna end up with a Roscoe next spring! It just looks 100x more badass than a HiFi as well!!

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    I am also thinking about buying a Roscoe in the spring. My only concern is the Roscoe I not having the Talas and just having a lockout. I wonder if it will climb as well because it would be nice to drop it down to 100mm.

    I don't know if it is worth the extra 800 bucks for the II.

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    Seems like a lot of us in the same boat. I am going to be picking up a new bike come springtime as well, but not sure if I want to spring for the Roscoe 2. Where I live I would definitely need the easily adjustable travel. That thing would be right at home up in Pisgah but not so sure about my area. The 30lbs doesn't really bother me at all, it looks like a tank at that weight. Plus, my hardtail is right near 30lbs right now. Was that the 19inch that your friend weighed, Zenki?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncfisherman
    Seems like a lot of us in the same boat. I am going to be picking up a new bike come springtime as well, but not sure if I want to spring for the Roscoe 2. Where I live I would definitely need the easily adjustable travel. That thing would be right at home up in Pisgah but not so sure about my area. The 30lbs doesn't really bother me at all, it looks like a tank at that weight. Plus, my hardtail is right near 30lbs right now. Was that the 19inch that your friend weighed, Zenki?
    You know, i forgot to ask.

    Edit: He said it was a 17"

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    The Roscoe 2 is awesome. I just ordered mine and I will be riding the shop demo until then.

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    Droptop...
    How is the propedal on the Roscoe 2? Is it noticeable plush or stiff or not noticeable at all?

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    Just called into my LBS & there is my Roscoe1 built :-) but not yet had its pdi :-(
    first off, everyone in shop including the mechanics think that its looks fantastic
    second, it feels a lot lighter than it looks.
    anyway as soon as i pick it up i will post pics & weigh it then setup suspension & report back after a test blast.
    even though i have purchased without a test ride i know it was the right choice & just on looks alone it knocks my mates Yeti as-r's & 575's away (I hope) :-)

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    Anyone pictures of a Roscoe in size XL?

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    Mine gets here Thursday!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooleymtnbiker1
    Droptop...
    How is the propedal on the Roscoe 2? Is it noticeable plush or stiff or not noticeable at all?
    I have been playing with the adjustment of the fork and I got it to where I like it.

    ZenkiS14- Yakima is coming out with a fork mount adapter for the QR15 the beginning of 2009.

    MI_canuck- I had 2.1 Ignitor LUST tires on my HiFi.


    I'm looking at putting Mountain King tires on the Roscoe for the riding I have been doing with it. So far I love the bike and have been riding it like crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenkiS14
    Yea, thats the direct comparison im looking at is the HiFi Deluxe vs. Roscoe I.

    I'd love a 2 or 3, but i wont be able to budget that.

    I was really mad that i didnt have time to hop on the HiFi aluminum bike that was at the demo day this past weekend, IDK man, I think i just might end up getting a Roscoe 1, if for no other reason the color and frame of the 09 HiFi deluxe looks retarded lol. And if the Roscoe is only within a pound of the HiFi, then i think im gonna go with the Roscoe. I really enjoyed it this weekend. I was thinking the HiFi would be around 26lbs....
    Question:

    What's the price comparison?

    I see a $1,000. difference (Roscoe I at about $2,900. VS Deluxe at about $1900.).
    Are there any Roscoe I's going for significantly less than $2,900?
    A Roscoe III is on my "dream list" with slight mods (tubless, XTR fr. der., crank, pedals, grips, bar ends, possibly saddle with a factory Matte Black paint job). But that's for next year.

    I'm sold/in love with an '08 Deluxe, but if the Roscoe I is within range...who knows.

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    the 09 deluxe is about $2600 unless you can find a big sale on an 08

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    I was referring to the rear shock's propedal


    Quote Originally Posted by droptopchevy
    I have been playing with the adjustment of the fork and I got it to where I like it.

    ZenkiS14- Yakima is coming out with a fork mount adapter for the QR15 the beginning of 2009.

    MI_canuck- I had 2.1 Ignitor LUST tires on my HiFi.


    I'm looking at putting Mountain King tires on the Roscoe for the riding I have been doing with it. So far I love the bike and have been riding it like crazy.

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    The LBS is having a sale to Christmas Eve. Roscoe 1 $400 off and 2 for $500 off. I was thinking of picking up a Santa Cruz or Pivot in the spring but the Roscoe is a sharp looking bike and way cheaper. Unfortunately they didn't have any 21" frames. Which Roscoe is the best bang for the buck of the three models? Tough decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dana109
    the 09 deluxe is about $2600 unless you can find a big sale on an 08
    Going for an '08 for $1,800.

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    That's a good deal.

    1) it's black which is better than gray

    2) it isn't all swoopy

    3) It's made in the US

    I'd have bought an 08 if i could find one. How are there left overs in your city? Seriously i went around lot a lot of shops and almost every fisher dealer in my city told me they were sold out by june. The few that had them had the largest or the smallest frames left. No 17.5 or 19. I'd say go for the 08 hifi deluxe at that price. I just payed $2,400 with pre-order discount for an 09 deluxe.

    I'd have gotten a roscoe but i honestly think it is too much bike for the trails in my area. I ride xc. I think the Roscoe looks awesome and i want one. But i think the Hifi is a more practical bike for my area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dana109
    That's a good deal.

    1) it's black which is better than gray

    2) it isn't all swoopy

    3) It's made in the US
    Same reasons I want it.

    I'd have bought an 08 if i could find one. How are there left overs in your city? Seriously i went around lot a lot of shops and almost every fisher dealer in my city told me they were sold out by june. The few that had them had the largest or the smallest frames left. No 17.5 or 19. I'd say go for the 08 hifi deluxe at that price. I just payed $2,400 with pre-order discount for an 09 deluxe.

    I've located 1 for about $1900. in Brooklyn (The Trek Store).

    17.5"
    '08 Matte Black
    HiFi Deluxe

    I'd have gotten a roscoe but i honestly think it is too much bike for the trails in my area. I ride xc. I think the Roscoe looks awesome and i want one. But i think the Hifi is a more practical bike for my area.
    I've been dancing between the '08 Deluxe and the '09 Roscoe I now that I've been doing some reading here. But that's not a fair comparison.

    The Roscoe has more features while the Deluxe I'm getting is $1,200. less.
    But...that Roscoe keeps calling me.
    I have to resist.
    I'm going to wait until next year and go for a Roscoe III.

    For now, I'll roll with the '08 Deluxe and "learn" how to master a FS.

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    right on.

    My 09 hifi deluxe will also be my first full suspension bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dana109
    right on.

    My 09 hifi deluxe will also be my first full suspension bike.
    Let us know how it rides.


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    I just sold my 08 HiFi deluxe to a guy from orange county NY. He got it for $1300.

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    FINALLY it's here

    It's alot lighter then I thought at 29lbs stock. I thought it was going to be near 31lbs. I have tons of upgrades waiting.
    XT Cranks
    Thompson Stem
    Chris King wheels
    Chris King BB
    Easton Carbon Bar
    XTR Shifters and derailleurs
    Hayes Stroker Train brakes
    WTB Mutano Raptor tires

    I will write soon with a review as I am going to ride it stock for a little while to see what works right.
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    Weird that your 19 weighs in 3/4 less than mine? Guess I gotta check the scale again. Looks like we got the same scale.

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    Cool, we just got in a Roscoe 1 about a week ago in the shop and built it up. It's pretty nice.

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    Question for cooleymtnbiker1. If you are making all those sweet upgrades why did you buy the II and not the I. Did you do it for the Talas. Looking forward to your review of it.

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    My LBS built up a test bike a few weeks ago. I only had a chance to try it around the town but fortunately Dorking is by no means flat. I think itís a major step forward for Fisher. The suspension felt very nice and the ABP doing its magic is certainly noticeable but in terms of bump absorption and feel it is still not up there with likes of the Full Floater system on the Trekís which is what I would have predicted anyway, it bobs a bit more too but the more XC styled Fuel EX isnĎt a fair comparison. The good news is that the handling and acceleration is very good, the geometry seems spot on and although the suspension isnít as good as the Trekís itís much nicer than the Hifi seat stay type suspension and Horst Link bikes from other brands. Iíd be really interested to try a higher spec model not so plagued by bad kit but my initial impressions are very goodÖ







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    That's a beautiful bike, thanks for your review.

    If you don't mind, what's the stock weight on your Roscoe I? I'm on the process of buying my next bike, and am trying to decide between the EX 8 and the Roscoe I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikingman
    Question for cooleymtnbiker1. If you are making all those sweet upgrades why did you buy the II and not the I. Did you do it for the Talas. Looking forward to your review of it.

    I have all those parts on another bike. I just wanted the Talas too not the new RP24 as it's new technology and I want something that's been tested. I won't be spending a dime on new parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droptopchevy
    Weird that your 19 weighs in 3/4 less than mine? Guess I gotta check the scale again. Looks like we got the same scale.
    I did switch the saddle right away...so maybe that's it. It's just a standard Specialized Geometry saddle that I like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrpalma
    That's a beautiful bike, thanks for your review.

    If you don't mind, what's the stock weight on your Roscoe I? I'm on the process of buying my next bike, and am trying to decide between the EX 8 and the Roscoe I.
    Itís not my bike so I donít know the weight, it definitely feels lighter than it is when riding but with that build itís not going to be particularly lightÖ

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168
    My LBS built up a test bike a few weeks ago. I only had a chance to try it around the town but fortunately Dorking is by no means flat. I think itís a major step forward for Fisher. The suspension felt very nice and the ABP doing its magic is certainly noticeable but in terms of bump absorption and feel it is still not up there with likes of the Full Floater system on the Trekís which is what I would have predicted anyway, it bobs a bit more too but the more XC styled Fuel EX isnĎt a fair comparison. The good news is that the handling and acceleration is very good, the geometry seems spot on and although the suspension isnít as good as the Trekís itís much nicer than the Hifi seat stay type suspension and Horst Link bikes from other brands. Iíd be really interested to try a higher spec model not so plagued by bad kit but my initial impressions are very goodÖ







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    "If" I end up upgrading to a Roscoe Series bike, I'd have to get it in Black at all costs!
    That thing just looks sinister!
    It's beautiful!

    I'll either go with a Roscoe III and beg the factory to place the comps on a Black Frame or I'll get a Roscoe I and just build it out to III's spec. Both come out to the same price either way, although I'd appreciate the "fuller" warranty on a factory Black Roscoe III.

    Comps wise, the only thing I see that I'd change on the III would be the Crankset and front der.

    But Damn!

    Black definitely is "the" color for that bike!

    Beautiful!

    Congrats!


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    Man, black is beautiful, but I tell ya, that white on the Roscoe III is amazing.

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    Does the II have the Talas or not? Ive seen it listed with the Talas and the RL, whats the deal. Also, how crappy is the Deore crank you would get on the I, I really like the black. Rode the III at a demo day and really likes the bike, just really expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenkiS14
    Man, black is beautiful, but I tell ya, that white on the Roscoe III is amazing.
    If I go with a Roscoe and it's "not" black, then I'm going to paint mine Matte Olive and have the factory graphics put on it.


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    Roscoe II (silver) has the talas. I plan on buying the Roscoe I (black) and just upgrading all the components but the deore crank is a lot better than it used to be. Right now I can get the bike for 15% off which is tempting but have to wait til spring.

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    The cranks are fine when paired with a decent front derailleur, but pair an average set of cranks like the Deore’s with a Sram front derailleur and you’ve got shifting hell. The rear derailleur, shifters and brakes are crap too but in the short term all you really need is a Shimano front derailleur…

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    Its not exactly the same bike but I think a Reign O is a way better deal, thats what Im between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikingman
    Roscoe II (silver) has the talas. I plan on buying the Roscoe I (black) and just upgrading all the components but the deore crank is a lot better than it used to be. Right now I can get the bike for 15% off which is tempting but have to wait til spring.
    I think the same thing, get a RI and upgrade it to an RIII.

    Price wise, there'd be no difference except that one can go with an all XTR Drivetrain on the converted RI. Would get the fork/shock/wheelset/brakes from the RIII directly (comes out to about $2300. for the RIII parts and $1100. for the XTR Drivetrain...I've budgeted it out to about $6,000.-$7,000. for a built "up" Roscoe. It could be called a Roscoe IV ).

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    What are the street prices on the Roscoe I's going for now?

    I'm imagining they'll drop in January and February when bike sales go down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droptopchevy
    The Roscoe 2 and 3 have the adjustable forks. My 2008 Hifi Deluxe weighed 28.4 lbs. tubeless with Maxxis Ignitor tires and like I said the Roscoe weighs 30.04 stock on the 19" frame. There really isn't too much of a feel of a weight difference as there is in the geometry. The Roscoe is bigger than the Hifi. The wide tires and longer travel in the suspension also differ the feel in the ride. If you are looking at the Roscoe and the Hifi I would say try to ride a Hifi and a Roscoe before you make any decisions. I loved the Hifi when I got it but I just sold mine for a Roscoe. The Roscoe 1 may be a better comparison as far as price and components depending on what Hifi you are looking at.
    That is a deciding factor for me.
    Pricewise, they seem to only be about $400. apart,
    but with the Roscoe I, you get ABP, DRCV, E2, 15QR Thru-Axle, etc...
    and it's definitely a buildable bike that can be held on to for a long time.
    Plus, it's supposed to be heavier duty and I'll take a pound or two
    for strength any day.

    So for me personally, it is looking like the better deal
    (when comparing an '08 HiFi Deluxe to an '09 Roscoe I
    even with a $1200. difference).

    The way I see it, I get the HiFi and I'll be thinking about The Roscoe.
    Then, I'll upgrade to the Roscoe anyway.
    I have to really ride a Roscoe to make my choice.
    As it stands now, the Deluxe felt great for me.
    I just want to spend as wisely as I can.

    If the difference between my getting a temprary bike and a more
    permanent bike is only about $1200. and if the lesser costing bike
    will have significantly less features than the more expensive model,
    then I should go with the more expensive model than getting the
    Deluxe and building it up just to get within $500 of the the Roscoe anyway.

    But the jump from Roscoe I to II to III are major jumps.
    There's no way I'd get a RIII yet.
    But the RI is the starting to win me.

    Now if I can only get my hands on one to ride!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndgen
    What are the street prices on the Roscoe I's going for now?

    I'm imagining they'll drop in January and February when bike sales go down.
    $2700.

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    Remember the front fork on the Roscoe's are custom in that you cannot simply updgrade to a new fork in that their is a custom steerer tube as well as custom offset fork crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siv
    $2700.
    Seems like a raging bargain to me with all of the features it has.



    I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on it...I just want to (of course) ride it and compare it to a couple of other bikes I'm thinking about (Santa Cruz Blur LT and a Pivot Mach 5). I'm trying to stay in the $2k-$3K range and I want to make a smart decision and get a bike I'll keep and build up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooleymtnbiker1
    Remember the front fork on the Roscoe's are custom in that you cannot simply updgrade to a new fork in that their is a custom steerer tube as well as custom offset fork crown.
    For me, "if" I go with the RI, then the only upgrade in fork and shock will be to an RIII set-up. I wouldn't even touch the stem or handle bar set up as I've read that their all tuned in to it's G2/E2 geometry. I would definitely leave that as is.

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    Did Roscoe buyers also test '09 Fuel EX9?

    If so, please share your comparative test experience. Tnx.

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    I finally got to build up my new Roscoe frame last night. I broke my fat possum in late September and received a Roscoe three first of dec. or so. I then received the run around trying to get the headset parts that would allow me to swap my inch 1/8 pike. I should start with I work in a great shop and wasn't dealing with a middleman... the folks at trek just couldn't seem to get their heads around what I needed to do. But alas the parts arrived and yes you can put a standard inch1/8 steerer into the roscoe. The only problem is that it has been snowing since I finished the build. I'm not opposed to sloshing through the snow but here in Zion the red clay in our mud means if its wet = no ride, and its the slushiest crap you can imagine. Luckily we rarely are off the trails for more than a week or two. and if it freezes enough I'll get out anyway. But so far from the parkinglot testride at the shop it seems pretty darned fun.......

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    But what about the custom offset on the fork? How does that affect the ride. I know my Roscoe is super snappy around corners thanks to the fork crown. Do you notice a difference?

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    I'll let you know as soon as the sky here stops dropping slush.... todays forecast looks like I might get to go try it out.... felt responsive in the parking lot.... I think I'm going to buy the offset fork this summer but this whole town is unemployed until the tourists come back. Which is why it was so important to put my old parts on, to get through our usually ride-able winter.

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    I also work in a Trek Shop, let me know how it goes buying a fork. Usually something like that is a ***** unless ur rep is uber cool.

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    3 months later...it's nice to see how the progression of my consideration for my first FS MTB has paid off. Not that I in anyway see the HiFi Deluxe as "less" than what I used to before, but I am glad that I got the Roscoe I. It gives me the sense that I can do things on it that I probably would question on a HiFi Deluxe.

    Besides weight (which is something that many make a priority), there is balance to consider and the Roscoe is an excellently balanced bike. It corners like it's on rails.

    Besides weight/balance considerations, there's also "total package concept" and the Roscoe fits the bill for me. I'll be able to ride that bike all day long on any Epic ride and in any country with the utmost confidence that it'll get me through anything.

    Major upgrades will come way down the line (most likely in the middle of the summer) which'll be a wheelset, brakes and drivetrain (when neccessary). But for now, as is, this bke is more than enough. I'll just do basic upgrades for personalization and comfort (saddle, grips, "maybe" bar ends, tubeless conversion to stock wheels/tires).

    So, I went with the Roscoe I (if it isn't obvious by now).


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    Im a Roscoe fan...again. After going back and forth between the Hifi Deluxe, EX8, and Roscoe. After riding them all today, Man i really love that Roscoe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenkiS14
    Im a Roscoe fan...again. After going back and forth between the Hifi Deluxe, EX8, and Roscoe. After riding them all today, Man i really love that Roscoe!
    All good bikes, no doubt, but also all depends on what you want your bike for.

    Yep, the Roscoe did it for me. "It's" what I wanted. The day I got to the shop, I walked in and asked Gary Fisher where the Roscoes were at.
    He smiled and said, let's get one for you. Then I looked up and there was one (the only one) in my size and the one I wanted specifically (The R1).
    I said there's one. They pulled it down and I took off on that pony.

    Came back 1/2 hour later and bought it. About 2 hours later, Gary asked me how I liked it.
    I responded "Liked it? I bought it!" He shook my hand and said you're going to love that bike.

    They had to take the bike away because there were too many people feelin' up on it and it was now owned!
    It drew so many people to it. It has the more sinister look of the 3 bikes.

    I looked into the "issues" they supposedly had. It could all be chalked up to just learning how to dial the bike in.

    So, are you pullin' the trigger any time soon?

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    Im still tossing between the ex8 kinda but should be pulling the trigger in July.

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    Hope that you dont mind that i revive this thread.

    Im considering a Roscoe, but i do not know what size to get. I live in northern norway, and there is no way that i can test the bike before i purchase it.

    i am 182 cm tall with 81 inseam. currently i ride a 09 trek 8000 18,5" that fits me perfectly. Should i get the roscoe 17,5" or 19"?

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