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    What went down at Sea Otter.

    Not too much with the tech this year, but maybe some pics that will inspire.

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    What is going on here? E-motor, or gearbox?
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    def a mid-drive ebike

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    Damn, the Vans grips.. I hope whoever made the connection on those gets a fat bonus.

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    A BMX company called Cult also makes Vans grips. They aren't lock-on but they have been making them for a couple years. If you get some you have to get the classic gum color! Have you seen the Vans shoe brake pads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
    def a mid-drive ebike
    Ha, I'm a moron! On a monitor whose DPI I can actually see with, clearly says "MOTOR" on the side of the damn thing, lol.
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    Why "Dumb" for the wood laminate helmet?

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    You have to ask?

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    What rear hub is that with the cut-away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    You have to ask?
    It would seem I did.

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    I remember the wood helmets from last year. I think they're cool.

    Overpriced but cool.

    Same goes for Renovo bikes.

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    They're novelty items. Not protective gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    They're novelty items. Not protective gear.
    Sorry if i'm being an ass but for some reason I just feel a need to press this. Maybe because I like the idea of repurposing things and maybe just because I like wood on bikes but to me the helmet hardly seems a novelty.

    From the pic it looks to be 3/16" of steam formed hard wood laminate with a cork or foam core. Depending on the wood and process one could create a very protective helmet.

    Did you talk to the vendor for details?

    For the record I have no affiliation with the vendor or any wood bike products although my dad makes hickory furniture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcdesigns View Post
    Sorry if i'm being an ass but for some reason I just feel a need to press this. Maybe because I like the idea of repurposing things and maybe just because I like wood on bikes but to me the helmet hardly seems a novelty.

    From the pic it looks to be 3/16" of steam formed hard wood laminate with a cork or foam core. Depending on the wood and process one could create a very protective helmet.

    Did you talk to the vendor for details?

    For the record I have no affiliation with the vendor or any wood bike products although my dad makes hickory furniture.

    They have supposedly been given the green light by the CPSC for sale, but... no ANSI, SNELL or any other actual safety certs? At least nothing from what I've seen floating about the web.

    Unless someone wants to buy me a $400 helmet for riding the beach crusier around the neighborhood with the dog, I'll pass.

    Think about a modern bike helmet - what is it that makes it work the way they do, and absorb energy of an impact? Now look at what is going on with these wood helmets...
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    I asked about impact resistance and protection. For what it's worth the designer assured me that the laminate outer and cork inner were quite strong and offered a high level of protection.

    I believe these lids fall in the "better than nothing" category.

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    I thought you didn't like 29ers.
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    I don't like 29ers. This is Sea Otter, though. It's not a real mountain bike course. You need a road bike with big tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover View Post
    They have supposedly been given the green light by the CPSC for sale, but... no ANSI, SNELL or any other actual safety certs?
    I wonder how they get insurance for that? I'd imagine that if you sell a helmet that isn't certified by the agencies that generally certify that kind of thing that there would be a lot of liability. It's no secret that I'm a woodworker and love combining wood and metal when I can, but this these wooden helmets are a step above using a turtle shell. I keep expecting to see BamBam riding with one on his stone wheeled scoot bike. Yaba Daba Do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcdesigns View Post
    Why "Dumb" for the wood laminate helmet?
    I'll answer!

    $500+ and not certified in any way by anyone, so as far as any event or insurance company is concerned one of those helmets is the same as no helmet at all.


    #Edit. So, can you elaborate on what you didn't like about the Ibis Rippley?

    Granted the tyre clearance wasn't fantastic and that shelf thing looks like a huge mud trap, but there must be more to it than that to go the effort of taking a photo specifically to complain about it!
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    Here is a quick video of the design process of the Ibis Ripley. Maybe this sheds some light on PVD's opinions. IMHO, there are too many places for muck and junk to collect. Maybe not, but coming from someone that has to do a lot of complete overhauls on bikes at our shop, it can be a real bugger to get in there and clean everything. There is also an exploded diagram of the pivot system.

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