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    Well.....frame number 5

    I got a crazy idea to build another 36er go figure this ones going to
    be aluminum!!!

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    Where's the print?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    Where's the print?
    Print? I can barely type with two fingers! No blueprint or front center calculation (even if I knew what that was)
    I just throw tubes in a jig and get to cracking!!
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    You may find that your results will improve dramatically with some prior planning. Think of the five p's.

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    Todwil

    Like to share how you bent your tubes, and what grade aluminium you are using?

    Looks good. I presume that you are making a duplicate frame of what you have already made out of a different material? Tick the alloy box, then TI next....

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    Way to go Todwil, I love it, keep freakin' everyone out.

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    I think you're gonna put a hurtin' on those poor AMP pivots.

    I bought a pristine AMP fork, long ago, to shorten, not lengthen (;
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    The tubes are bent the same way as before JD2 for the ST/CS and the
    HF roller bender for the DT/TT/ST all the tubing .065 except the ST and
    May be changing this because it bent weird at the butts. I don't believe you have to do a schematic for one offs or for personal use 'cause your going to ride it anyway it turns out and to date I haven't made one the same on purpose.

    The AMP fork is doing better than I expected. The only change I would
    Like to do if I was making the fork would be sealed bearings and just a
    Little beefier for a better warm fuzzy when rippin' downhill!

    Ive been an oversized clown my whole life!
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    Well head tubes just got back in stock at Nova so I should have new pics soon!
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    Well it's been a while and I haven't done much on this but just got some different dropouts for this and I just started finishing up the bending and dimpling the CS's
    Ill post pics tonite or tomorrow.

    After dimpling the CS does anyone ovalize the tube from dimple to the bottom bracket
    And if you do you just press it or do you use a die of some sort? I'm thinking on ovalizing the round tubing by just pressing it a little
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    Update Pics

    Here are the updated pics my first change was the BB shel the Nova one was about 4mm narrower than the Niner and the eccentric is super sloppy so sloppy that if this was a piston and cylinder it would need a bore job so I ordered a Niner one its the same width as the steel one so no setup change. The next was the rear drops the Kavik ones seem stronger. The next is CS dimpling to gain clearance and a little shorter CS length.

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    What shell are you using with the 9er Ebb? I thought they didn't use a "standard" width or inside diameter?
    Slowly slipping to retrogrouchyness

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    I'm using Niner brand shell and they have several styles of inserts, EBB, BB30 and I think they have or had one centered threaded.
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    Sundays effort

    Here is some pics of todays copin tubes!
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    Closer

    Here's a couple more pics, I had a seat post slug made from 1-1/2 .125 aluminum turned down to except a 34.9 clamp.

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    Hey...

    I'm seeing serious craftsmanship going on here! What gives?
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    6061 and counting

    Here's a couple more from today!!

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    Here's one for Trailmaker these are my hi-end coping tools!!

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    Awwwww,.... MAN;

    My illusions are totally blown....
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    Nut-zerts

    Has anyone used nutzerts for water bottle cage? I been looking
    At new bikes and they look like that's what there using.
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    Yes;

    They are working fine. I would say that I'd want a real good quality type, and with a fairly large flange for added grip. I've used them plenty on other things and have had some issues with the small flange "invisible" type not staying in place and spinning. This will be ESPECIALLY problematic on such thin wall tubing. It might not even be a bad idea to install them with some epoxy on them!
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    Thanks I see that Nova has them but no tool I may skip it on this one.
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    I added a seat stay holder to my jig.

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    I did some tacking and welding. Also couldn't help myself, I did the
    classic Payaso test fit!!! 'O and some pics!!!


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    are you planning to have it heat treated?

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    The short answer is no. The long answer is no because it will come back to a T value
    on its own "age harden" and this I didn't know was it will do this fairly quickly a couple of weeks. The HAZ areas will never be back to T6 without chemical heat treating but they can come back to T4-T5 the rest of the unaffected parts are still T6. The next frame I do will be 7005 series Aluminum. I stopped on this project for a while to research this and also change a few parts and I now feel comfortable continuing.
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