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    inaugural ride?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reedster
    But, just maybe, I can head down to Noble Canyon and catch Aqua when he tries that thing out... In fact, maybe that should be the So Cal SS gathering of the season.

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    Sounds like a good idea, Aqua you down? I'm sure some of the So Cal 29er fiends that have been watching this build would like to show up for a big wheeled Noble session. I'd be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burner
    Sounds like a good idea, Aqua you down? I'm sure some of the So Cal 29er fiends that have been watching this build would like to show up for a big wheeled Noble session. I'd be there.
    I remember when I was back in high School, and somehow I talked Christa Larsen (the hottest girl in the school) into going to the prom with me. It was amazing.... that she agreed to go out with me. I was giddy. I was terrified.

    Anyway, my buds couldn't believe it, and wanted to join me with their dates... guess what I ended up doing?

    I think my first ride with this creation....... I may just need some alone time with her. You know...just to get aquainted and feel each other out.

    After that...I'm all for a Big Wheeled SoCal Noble run.

    Should I break out the skort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    I remember when I was back in high School, and somehow I talked Christa Larsen (the hottest babe in the school) into going to the prom with me. It was amazing, that she agreed to go out with me. I was giddy. I was terrified.

    Anyway, my buds couldn't believe it, and wanted to join me with their dates... guess what I ended up doing?

    I think my first ride with this creation....... I may just need some alone time with her. You know...just to get aquainted and feel each other out.

    After that...I'm all for a Big Wheeled SoCal Noble run.

    Should I break out the skort?

    Aqua
    Yeah, you gotta put the first few scuffs on her to break her in properly.
    Pro motocrossers get these amazing helmets painted by Troy Lee... They probably cost as much as the Jones. What do they do before they even put it on thier head? Bang it on something... Put the first scratch on it. That way you don't have to worry so much anymore.
    "Whereas Motoman's bike looks like an industrial, TinkerToy experiment gone horribly wrong." - Aquaholic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Anybody know what language this is? Or, what it says?

    Swedish...

    The following clips about your bike were found here--> http://happymtb.org/forum/read.php/1/320055

    Glöm inte hur Aquaholics Jeff Jones-bygge utvecklar sig för bövelen, rörkrökning och fräsning på programmet.
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    Don't forget to see how Aquaholic's Jeff Jones build develops for gods sake, bending of tubes and mill(ing?)is up next.

    Re: Dagens dos med 29er-porr

    Todays dose of 29er-porno

    Skrivet av jns den 21a november

    Written by jns the 21th of November.

    AAAHHHHHH!!!!!

    AAAHHHHHH!!!!!

    Den där tråden med Aquaholics Jeff Jones-bygge får mig att ligga sömnlös om nätterna och somnar jag är jag fast i våta Titandrömmar....

    This thread with Aquaholics Jeff Jones-build destroys my sleep and if I fall aslepp I'm stuck in wet titaniumdreams..

    Spärra kortet, spärra korten, spärra kortet....

    Block(?) my creditcard, block my creditcard, block my creditcard....

    Kort sagt trodde jag nog inte att man kunde få gåshud av ett rambygge.

    Short say I didn't belived that you could get goose pimples from a framebuild.

    //jns
    I guess Daner is satisfied with my translation? =)

    You can't imagine how jealous I'm, this is the coolest and best bike in the universe, f*cking amazing. Congratulations.

    //Fredrik Lasson- First post on mtbr today =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrik Larsson
    I guess Daner is satisfied with my translation? =)

    You can't imagine how jealous I'm, this is the coolest and best bike in the universe, f*cking amazing. Congratulations.

    //Fredrik Lasson- First post on mtbr today =)
    Almost satisfied.

    Glöm inte hur Aquaholics Jeff Jones-bygge utvecklar sig för bövelen, rörkrökning och fräsning på programmet.
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    Whatever you do, don't forget to check out how Aquaholic's Jeff Jones build is shaping up. Tube bending and facing are up next.

    Re: Dagens dos med 29er-porr

    The day’s dose of 29er-porn

    Skrivet av jns den 21a november

    Written by jns the 21th of November.

    AAAHHHHHH!!!!!

    AAAHHHHHH!!!!!

    Den där tråden med Aquaholics Jeff Jones-bygge får mig att ligga sömnlös om nätterna och somnar jag är jag fast i våta Titandrömmar....

    That thread with Aquaholic’s Jeff Jones-build keeps me awake at night, and if I do sleep I get stuck in wet Titanium dreams….

    Spärra kortet, spärra korten, spärra kortet....

    Block the credit card, block the credit card, block the credit card....

    Kort sagt trodde jag nog inte att man kunde få gåshud av ett rambygge.

    In short, I didn’t believe that watching a frame being built could give you goose bumps.

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    didn't mean the actual cherry popper...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic

    I think my first ride with this creation....... I may just need some alone time with her. You know...just to get aquainted and feel each other out.

    After that...I'm all for a Big Wheeled SoCal Noble run.

    Should I break out the skort?

    Aqua
    some things just need to be done in private. You need to get the feel for her, so you can give it to her good while we're all watching

    Besides, we all know you're not going to be waiting around for a scheduled ride when you receive it, let's schedule something for a little while afterward... a kick ass 29er group ride to wrap up this thread as it deserves.


    your nads will have to make the call if the skort in winter is a wise idea.... You could wear a red leather gstring for all I care, going to be hard to notice anything but that bike anyway.

    wait... I think my imagination just made myself sick.

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    you go to a quiet place, lay down a soft blanket, and make thweet thweet love to her.


    it's an eerie thing you got there, Aqua. JJ got some voodoo in them tubes.






    p.s. - skip the skort. this is a time for serious reflection, brah.

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    Odds & Ends

    Getting down to the details now.

    JJ and I fought tooth and nail over what screws to mount the headbadge with. But, alas...I finally won out. BTW, I opted for the pewter on the headbadge.

    Here's the HBar getting the wrap job.

    382 grams as pictured with grips and tape.


    Some of you lucky peeps are going to be getting an HBar for Xmas!
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    I remember when Jeff had a little shop here in AV. Did great work and built up a few bikes for me back then. His move to the North left me without an LBS for a bit, until I discovered The Path and R&R.

    Aquaholic, your thread has me inspired to do something crazy! Perhaps it starts with the H-Bar for my single speed...

    hmmmmm

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    I hope Im one

    of those lucky peeps. those H bars are sweet!

    Great thread for sure, JJ ought to give you a little gift for such pub.

    BTW what are your connections to get those parts (rims especially)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Some of you lucky peeps are going to be getting an HBar for Xmas!
    Really? Wow, thanks, you shouldn't have.

    Monte

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte
    Really? Wow, thanks, you shouldn't have.

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    ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
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    Doh!....


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    I've got Glass Balls!

    I've got glass balls in my headset. Actually, they are ceramic. And Big. And certified.

    56, 5/32” Silicon Nitride Grade 3 balls. These will replace the OEM stainless bearings and cage.

    They have a tolerance of +.000010”.

    This brings the total weight of the headset to 84 grams.

    If a King headset could dream...it would dream of being this trick.

    Headset Caviar.

    PS No more overheating on those high speed bar spins!
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    Dude, you're killing me with this build! I check this thread more than my email. BTW, love the balls.
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    For what do you suppose Jeff uses the stethoscope (see background)?
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    Stethoscopes can be used to check the bearings on motors, pumps, and bicycle parts I guess.

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    It was bad enough being jealous of your frame, fork, and skills, now we have to envy your BALLS? GEEZ!


    Stethoscope must be to check if clients hearts stop beating...
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    Heart Trouble

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    For what do you suppose Jeff uses the stethoscope (see background)?

    Actually, JJ has taken to including a stethoscope with each build. There have been reports of people developing heart palpitations upon receipt of their bikes.
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    You do know that you have to do a worldtour with your new steed when it`s done do you? You can start in Stockholm, Sweden and we`ll show you our finest trails and buy you lots of beer. =)

    Deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erol/frost
    You do know that you have to do a worldtour with your new steed when it`s done do you? You can start in Stockholm, Sweden and we`ll show you our finest trails and buy you lots of beer. =)

    Deal?
    Get the Swedish Bikini Team involved, and we have a deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erol/frost
    You do know that you have to do a worldtour with your new steed when it`s done do you? You can start in Stockholm, Sweden and we`ll show you our finest trails and buy you lots of beer. =)

    Deal?
    The Aquaholism Tour 2006!!
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    As much as I'd like to help host your visit, as one California guy to another I need to warn you not to bring it over anytime soon. You don't own enough polo shirts to keep you warm here at this time of year! Besides, Nokian hasn't released the WXC 330 yet so there are no decently sized studded 29'er MTB meats.

    The Bikini Team might be tough to arrange, but we could probably arrange a ride with the Bimbo Bikers. http://bimbobikers.juretic.nu/

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    Lord

    When will the sweetness end. The ceremic balls took it over the top. This thread makes my head and wallet hurt.

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    I vote to retire his screen name

    Ok, as a fellow Jones'er I move to retire Aquaholic's screen name into the hall of fame of MTBR posters. Never has one man so Infatuated so many with his porn. The glass balls were over the top (wish I'd thought of that.... you sick s.o.b.) Someone needs to make a bust of him and send it somewhere important (Noble Canyon the new Mt. Rushmore?) and I'm sure the Swedish Bikini team could be the presenters. Run with it worshipers of the Aquaholic tale of Jones enlightenment... Of course Cloxxki, Padre and others will be close behind...

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    Sonogram pic

    I don't know how much more of this I can take. It can't be long now, right?

    Disktab facing.

    JJ burning the midnight oil on my build.


    There it is!!! I can see what looks like my bike with the AquaTruss in place. There's the seat post and seat. And I see the HBar and brake levers bolted up.

    I had to look really close, but I can see the hubs are Mango. That's my baby!

    Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! This is like looking at a sonogram. I can make out a fuzzy outline. I can see a heartbeat. But, I can't make out any details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    This is like looking at a sonogram. I can make out a fuzzy outline. I can see a heartbeat. But, I can't make out any details.
    Please let it be twins, please let it be twins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic

    Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! This is like looking at a sonogram. I can make out a fuzzy outline. I can see a heartbeat. But, I can't make out any details.
    Congratualtions Aqua, you are the proud father of a bike.
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    Ti me down

    And a few Ti bolts for the brake calipers and crank arm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat
    Please let it be twins, please let it be twins...
    haha!
    Rudy Projects look ridiculous

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    Hold on to your hats!

    JJ sent some completed build pics.

    Y'all ready to see this beastie....The "AquaJones"?
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    OK everyone try really hard to act like you don't care



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    JJ sent some completed build pics.

    Y'all ready to see this beastie....The "AquaJones"?

    Who says some haven't seen it yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    JJ sent some completed build pics.

    Y'all ready to see this beastie....The "AquaJones"?
    "Do It... Do It..." (Think Starsky & Hutch, the movie).

    BTW, do you know where JJ sources his Ti bolts and other hardware?
    Can't wait to see more of your son, Aqua Glass-Ball Jones.
    Spinning and Grinning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    JJ sent some completed build pics.

    Y'all ready to see this beastie....The "AquaJones"?
    This thread has been great. However, I'd like to nominate Aqua's last quote as the stupidest post EVER!

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    The "AquaJones"

    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    "The AquaJones".


    BADA BING!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    "The AquaJones".


    BADA BING!
    Incredible...are your brakes set up motostyle?

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    Beautiful. I think I'm more excited about the fork rather than the bike. Enjoy, show us some action shots when you can.
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    Shazaam!!!

    Congrats.

    Did JJ try to talk you out of hydro brakes and into BB-7's instead?

    Looking forward to some dirty pron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGearGuy

    Did JJ try to talk you out of hydro brakes and into BB-7's instead?

    OGG
    I for one am glad he was not successful if he did.

    Simply gorgeous. *applause*

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    Watch out folks, the turner-homies are going to be invading the 29"er-board anytime now. ...
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    Simply stunning... what kind of coin does that kind of sweetness run you???
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    Not too worry, Padre...I would/will warn you (About the brakes), when you swing a leg over her.

    OGG. No, we didn't battle over the brakes. The things we arm wrestled over were the hydro gudes and the headbadge screws. It turned out to be a draw. He won on the cable guides...I won on the headbadge screws. It's a draw.

    Seriously, I like hydros. I've been running Hopes on all of my bikes for awhile now. They work well for me. I'm curious to try out these Dangerboy levers.

    JJ is going out for the first spin/test ride today. It's raining up there in Medford, but he can't wait to ride his creation any longer. I requested that he take his camera. So, perhaps tonight we'll see some action pics.

    I told him this morning that I am a bit sad that the build is now complete. I mean, obviously I am stoked beyond words to finally be getting this bike. I have been waiting 17 months now. But still, there is a part of me that is bummed. This build process has been a lot of fun. And, I hope that you have enjoyed seeing this process as much as I have. JJ you are the man!
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    Congrats Aqua, shes a real looker, and thanks for sharing the process.

    That Jones boy is good!

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    Oh Nellie! The front shot pic makes that bike look like it is going to eat you alive! That fork is awesome! Sweet ride Aqua!

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    what could i possibly say that hasn't been said already? which brings me to my next question: why am i even posting a response?

    sweet bike aqua. action shots are going to be the icing on this cake.

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    Ding ding ding, we have a winner..... Bike of 2005 is.......... "The AquaJones"
    blah blah blah

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    OK, this is a sad story. Today is my 48th birthday and I don't know if I'll live another four to seven years given my general health and the way the world is today. So I would like to propose an idea.

    You seem to be in much better physical condition than I am and will probably last much longer than I. So why don't you have Jeff send me your bike. If that's OK, I will get on the waiting list tomorrow and you can have mine when he says it's my turn. In the event I die first, I will have my wife clean the bike up and send it back to you.

    Sounds like a good idea huh!
    You wouldn't be in so much pain if you didn't ride like a dork!

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    Words can not convey how cool that bike is. WOW!

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    We waited all this time for that? Pffff.
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    Can't tell something new here, only: This bike really rocks! Hopefully it'll ride like a dream for you!
    How much does it weigh?
    Aren't the ceramic balls wearing out the rest of the headset faster?

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    ... and if we just ... yeah, she's finished.... but how long until YOU get to mount her?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    I told him this morning that I am a bit sad that the build is now complete. I mean, obviously I am stoked beyond words to finally be getting this bike. I have been waiting 17 months now. But still, there is a part of me that is bummed. This build process has been a lot of fun. And, I hope that you have enjoyed seeing this process as much as I have. JJ you are the man!
    I don't think you are as bummed as the rest of the board... watching it come together is all we had... and now that's over... at least you have the final product to ease your sorrow

    for the rest of us it's like sending our smokin' hot daughter off to college to get violated by some jock Enjoy her!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    "The AquaJones".


    BADA BING!
    Wow what a lady. She sure is one class act, but can she cook???????? When does she arrive? I may have to do a drop in just to eyeball her.
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    That is simply amazing, glad you shared the experience. Say, can I borrow it while I'm waiting for my One9? It is just a few hours donw the road from me :-)

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    watching this thread unravel, following that ball of twine..
    expecting the messiah of all bikes the whole time
    the rebirth of slick, the golden path to righteousness
    and if it could it exist it'd be aquaholics's
    but now I'm thinking something that I thought I'd never know
    as my bike lust evaporates just like the winter snow
    I'm staring through my monitor into that ti glow
    I realize all along, that it's just a bicycle

    beautiful bike aqua, it's 4:30 in the morning here and I'm disapointed...one less thing to look forward to
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    Congratulations

    Fantastic bike, I hope it provides many years of magical memories, though it appears to me that it will be hard to top the memory of building this work of art. For me, building the ride is as much fun as the ride.

    Though your bike is probably the most impressive and beautiful bike I have ever seen, I was almost expecting more! The experience of your ride with Jones, those spectacular build photos, your super bling spec, and the community feedback of over 26,000 thread hits had me anticipating the bike would have solid rocket boosters and heat shields. Well, it probably cost as much anyway. I can't get enough of that truss fork! Wow!

    Looking forward to your ride report.

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    Here's some shot's from JJ's first ride yesterday. He was trying to be modest, but he's pretty blown away with this build. "I can just move around and really man-handle this bike, like no other." The Hope's need more time to bed in.
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    Don't know about you, but I'd be a bit bummed with a builder that taunted me with pics of my long awaited ride out on some sweet a$$ trails getting dirty. Seem like you'd want, and should have, first mud.

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    BTW - That's a great looking bike.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Here's some shot's from JJ's first ride yesterday. He was trying to be modest, but he's pretty blown away with this build. "I can just move around and really man-handle this bike, like no other." The Hope's need more time to bed in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne
    Don't know about you, but I'd be a bit bummed with a builder that taunted me with pics of my long awaited ride out on some sweet a$$ trails getting dirty. Seem like you'd want, and should have, first mud.
    My sentiments exactly. If I'm paying that much for a bike i'm getting the first dirt turns on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
    My sentiments exactly. If I'm paying that much for a bike i'm getting the first dirt turns on it.
    Riiiight. Then you'd be the first to send it back because something isn't just right.

    JJ demands that he "test" it so it's sure to meet his standards regarding build, fit, and finish.

    You'd really complain about him testing it based on a romantic notion about a first date with your bike?

    Based on your sentiments, JJ is "stealing" your woman or something. Like he hasn't ridden one of these before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Riiiight. Then you'd be the first to send it back because something isn't just right.

    JJ demands that he "test" it so it's sure to meet his standards regarding build, fit, and finish.

    You'd really complain about him testing it based on a romantic notion about a first date with your bike?

    Based on your sentiments, JJ is "stealing" your woman or something. Like he hasn't ridden one of these before.
    I agree with Padre. Jeff test rides his bikes to make sure they are right. If something is not up to snuff he will fit it before he ships, even if it means re-making parts of the bike.
    I doubt if Aqua will have to do more than fiddle with the saddle height or brake lever angle during his first ride. A rarity for the maiden voyage on a new build. Call it final tuning.

    It's not as if Jeff is going to throw the dirty bike in a box. It will be cleaned to perfection first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Riiiight. Then you'd be the first to send it back because something isn't just right.

    JJ demands that he "test" it so it's sure to meet his standards regarding build, fit, and finish.

    You'd really complain about him testing it based on a romantic notion about a first date with your bike?

    Based on your sentiments, JJ is "stealing" your woman or something. Like he hasn't ridden one of these before.
    I believe the concept is from medieval times and called "prima notte."

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne
    Don't know about you, but I'd be a bit bummed with a builder that taunted me with pics of my long awaited ride out on some sweet a$$ trails getting dirty. Seem like you'd want, and should have, first mud.

    jw

    BTW - That's a great looking bike.
    Thanks man!


    JJ and I were talking about your comment today. Not you specifically, because we spoke before your post was made. We speculated that some people will probably find it odd for him to be out riding my new bike.... and in the rain, no less.

    Here's how I see it:

    The guy just spent well over a month, and who knows how many hours, pouring his heart and soul into this rolling, handcrafted, two wheeled, sculpture. If you could begin to understand the lengths that Jeff goes to in sweating the details, you would shake your head in disbelief.

    The very least that I would expect from Jeff, is that he take this bike out and ride it hard. Seriously. Ride it, fly it, slide it, & flog it. Then clean her up, check for anything loose, and do it again if necessary. Do whatever needs to be done to ensure that everything is tight and completely dialed in when it gets boxed up.

    This bike will not be babied. It's going to get ridden on the same trails as my Turner. And in the same manner. It was conceived and designed with that in mind.

    Of all people that I know and have ridden with, I trust JJ above anyone. I still get a laugh when I replay the video in my head of following him, high speed, through the forest on Mt. Ashland. Smooth and flowing, with cat-like reflexes does not even begin to convey the bike handling skills the guy possesses.

    I totally trust my new bike in JJ's hands, regardless of the weather. That bike will be better than showroom pristine when I uncrate it. There is no doubt in my mind.

    What it comes down to is JJ is a perfectionist. He won't let go of the reigns until he's completely satisfied that it's ready.

    And mud? That Oregon, coffee ground dirt, ain't mud. SoCal after 10 minutes of rain and you've got some of the nastiest, clay based crap I've ever seen!

    BTW, two immediate changes that will be made are that the hydro lines are coming off of the bars at a funky angle, with too much slack. So, the straight fittings will be swapped out with 90 degree banjo bolts and the lines will be shortened, and rebled.

    Cleaner routing and lighter weight.

    Also, that stem is a zero degree rise. It will be swapped out for a 5 degree.


    Then, of course......................... there is the 4 speed.
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    My comments where supposed to be more tongue in cheek. I've been a been Bike Mechanic for 20+yrs and have always test ridden anything I've put together before I turned it over to the customer. (Just not to the same extent as JJ.) I totally understand your sentiments and what he's doing. If I was in your shoes though, I'd be so excited I couldn't stand it.

    Thanks again to you and JJ for keeping this thread going. I can't wait to hear your thoughts after you get to ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    If you could begin to understand the lengths that Jeff goes to in sweating the details, you would shake your head in disbelief.
    One thing I took away from this thread is how JJ sweats the little details. I kept thinking to myself that no production bike would see anything close to this much attention. It's very impressive and justifies his relatively high prices.

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    Please do tell..........

    or rather educate me on the pros/cons of ceramic bearings? I never really have dealt with them at all. How are they made to such tight tolerances?
    Anyway, you got yerself a purdy bike there buddy.

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    Huh, I guess if Jeff Jones is comfortable running a shimmed 25.4 bar in a 31.8 stem then I can tell my friend that made a face at the idea to get bent.
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    questions

    First off, beautiful bike. It looks like Jeff really puts alot of effort into every detail.
    I assume he is working on other orders at the same time, otherwise it would be a month without a pay cheque which no framebuilder can afford (unless they have a sugar-mama )
    Lastly, I'm dying to know the frame and fork weight as well as the geometry!
    thanks for the pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoyoma
    First off, beautiful bike. It looks like Jeff really puts alot of effort into every detail.
    I assume he is working on other orders at the same time, otherwise it would be a month without a pay cheque which no framebuilder can afford (unless they have a sugar-mama )
    Lastly, I'm dying to know the frame and fork weight as well as the geometry!
    thanks for the pics.
    I believe Jeff builds one frame at a time. He does make the HBars in there somewhere. The Hbar sales and substantial bike deposits keep the lights on.

    Aqua's bike has been under construction for 2 months now, not one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    I believe Jeff builds one frame at a time. He does make the HBars in there somewhere. The Hbar sales and substantial bike deposits keep the lights on.

    Aqua's bike has been under construction for 2 months now, not one.
    I always figured the H-Bar sales fueled the place so he could lovingly hand-rub the frames one-by-one. I wonder how many H-Bars he sells per year?

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    Good job! The Ultimate Bike.

    Thats it... as far as i'm concerned Aqua. That wonderful Jeff Jones creation is the ultimate bike... imo.

    You are one very lucky guy. The build pictures have been great, and now the finished product is beautiful.

    I can hardly stop staring at the pictures of it, and the way it is sitting in the rain just adds to the images of a finely crafted masterpiece that is going to last a lifetime.

    To me it is poetry in Ti, the solid and real result of a mans skill, talents and ideas brought to reality.

    When I look at that bike I can see the heart and soul that went into building it.

    Jeff Jones is a great man, and his creations are totally unique.

    To me, this is the epitome of art, science and skill combined and fashioned into a thing of beauty. It is not just a bike, it is the culmination of a man's dream to create a unique and beautiful machine that reflects his passion and skill.

    I love it. I know that you will too.


    Thank you for the pictures.


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    I have an idea

    I'm sure the powers to be at mtbr.com have already thought of this, but after a ride report and maybe a long term ride report, this thread should be condensed with all "cool bike posts eliminated and left as a sticky. I, for one, have thoroughly enjoyed going from design to end product. I don't know if I've ever seen a more comprehensive beginning to end custom bike build before. This thread is special and should be saved somewhere with pictures intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckc1971
    I'm sure the powers to be at mtbr.com have already thought of this, but after a ride report and maybe a long term ride report, this thread should be condensed with all "cool bike posts eliminated and left as a sticky. I, for one, have thoroughly enjoyed going from design to end product. I don't know if I've ever seen a more comprehensive beginning to end custom bike build before. This thread is special and should be saved somewhere with pictures intact.
    I have suggested that Aquaholic collect and condense this thread and post it on his own server. It is worth saving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Then, of course......................... there is the 4 speed.[/COLOR]
    And I want to know more about that 4 speed. When will Jeff be tooled up to sell it??

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    Just out of interest, why use the 31.8 stem and them shim it down to the smaller bar?

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    More 411

    Hey Y'all:

    Termie was kind enough to set me up with a blog over on Fooriders.com, so at some point, I'll migrate this tale over there.

    But, the story's not totally finished yet. The studio shots are coming, soon. And of course they'll be the obligatory huck shots.

    Tractor: Glass balls? Lighter, rounder, less friction, tighter tolerances. I'm not sure how they're manufactured. Cons? Since there's no cage holding the balls in place, I'll have to be careful when servicing the headset. My wallet is lighter.

    YoYoMa: I'l have to get back to ya on the specs. Basically, I was unsure of the #'s to go with, My frame of reference was a full squish, geared bike. After riding JJ's personal bike that weekend, I just told him to make mine exactly like that. Well.... except lengthen the top tube a 1/2 inch.

    Eleven: Do a search on the 4 speed, there's plenty of detailed 411 out there.

    EndoManiac: I wanted to run the new X4 stem, as I'm not totally enamored with the old style clamping system. The new style stem is also lighter. The shimming works fine. No movement or creaking.
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    And then there were three

    Gears that is. JJ finished up with the gearbox today. The 4 speed has morphed into a 3 speed. JJ did a little creative modification to the SRAM derailleur to ensure that the limit screw works properly. He left me a message after today's ride saying that it shifts quite well, with no missed shifts, or dropped chain. And that the Rohloff chain guide is probably not necessary, "but we should probably leave it on for the rocks you ride in".

    He also emailed me this:

    Steve,

    "I had a great ride. I love the bike. If I could afford it, I would refund your money and keep it for myself.

    You're lucky I need the money."

    JJ



    Uh OHHH...I think he's getting rather attached to this ONE!


    The correct stem is now in place.

    So, what's left? The hydro lines will be rerouted with right angle banjo fittings and shortened. One more test ride, and then next week the boudoir, studio photo shoot is scheduled. After that, it gets boxed up and shipped to San Diego!
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    A few more from today's test ride

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    Aqua-

    Probably the nicest looking bike I have EVER seen.

    So you shift through your 3 gears with your left handed SRAM X.0?

    IS that front truss prett much bomb proof, has JJ hucked it at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    And that the Rohloff chain guide is probably not necessary, "but we should probably leave it on for the rocks you ride in".
    I'd been running a Rohloff on my 5-Spot, tried it without the chain guide, for one ride. Even with a bash ring the chain would drop off to the inside occasionally. Too bad you might need it, the bike would look super clean without it. Maybe the bike needs the first "polished" Rohloff chain guide!

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    YUCK is that duck tape on your polished cranks. Might I make a suggestion.
    http://www.theinvisibleshield.com/
    just watch the demo and i think it'll convince you. I have that on the ipod video and the stuff is great. You can order custome cut sizes and everything as well. Worth a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b12yan88
    YUCK is that duck tape on your polished cranks. Might I make a suggestion.
    http://www.theinvisibleshield.com/
    just watch the demo and i think it'll convince you. I have that on the ipod video and the stuff is great. You can order custome cut sizes and everything as well. Worth a shot.

    Really, you think it looks tacky? I was considering covering the entire frame with Duct tape to protect it. You know, it does kinda match the Ti!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Really, you think it looks tacky? I was considering covering the entire frame with Duct tape to protect it. You know, it does kinda match the Ti!
    Duct tape is suppose to be tacky! It will not stick to anything otherwise.

    Oh yeah...great looking bike...yadda yadda...cool...yadda yadda yadda...
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    Quote Originally Posted by baycat
    Aqua-

    Probably the nicest looking bike I have EVER seen.

    So you shift through your 3 gears with your left handed SRAM X.0?

    IS that front truss prett much bomb proof, has JJ hucked it at all?

    It's actually a conventional right hand, X.0 rear shifter, nicely tucked away. JJ reports that the hand positioning works really well, except for one, where you wrap your thumb under for maximum climbing torque and tugging. I'll have to see.

    If I can pull off all of my usual climbs as a SS, I'll run it sans gears. It really does look cleaner with out all that stuff mucking it up. And, it is a pound lighter. It's just that for these long, steep grinders out here, I just like to sometimes slip into something more comfortable. We'll see.

    JJ says that the AquaTruss is substantially stiffer laterally, and he wants to put one on his own personal bike. Stay tuned for some huck shots!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Really, you think it looks tacky? I was considering covering the entire frame with Duct tape to protect it. You know, it does kinda match the Ti!
    I think we'd have to kill you if you did that =p
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    Bench Testing

    Studio shots scheduled for midweek, then......


    "I should be able to ship your bike, friday".
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    ..Wow !

    ..Holy bloody dooley.. incredible. !!


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    Final Exam

    Today was the last test ride for my One. The hydro line fittings have been replaced with right angle pieces, and the lines shortened. All final adjustments are complete. All systems are go.

    Next the bike gets taken down and detailed for the studio shots. (wednesday?)
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    Snow testing

    I'd like to point out that I requested that JJ fly this thing to ensure that everything is solid and tight. "Cleared for liftoff!"
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    You gotta get bike of the year. That thing absolutely rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burner
    I don't think you are as bummed as the rest of the board... watching it come together is all we had... and now that's over... at least you have the final product to ease your sorrow

    for the rest of us it's like sending our smokin' hot daughter off to college to get violated by some jock Enjoy her!!!!!


    Ummm.... as opposed to violating your hot daughter yourself?

    I'm not too sure about that....



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    OK, Mr Waterboy

    I went at looked at the pics. Wading through this thread has killed a couple of hours I should be sleeping instead.

    After all this, I have to ask: So?



















    Just kidding. I can't imagine your 5-Pack getting ANY love at all once the Jones shows up. It really is too bad it wasn't here in time for yesterday's ride. I look forward to knocking you off your bike and stealing it... um, did I just say that out loud? I meant riding with you sometime soon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    I look forward to knocking you off your bike and stealing it... um, did I just say that out loud? I meant riding with you sometime soon.

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    awesome!

    Wow, hats off to JJ and you! A builder who is obiviously quite happy to stand by (or fly) his product
    and stops at nothing (not even personal injury) to ensure the bike is not only as good as you expect,
    but as good as he wants his name attached too.
    Not that other builders dont stand by their product, but the extent to which he is happy to document this.

    Worth a mint in advertising, but priceless in customer faith.


    I just have to find some serious money and put up with riding my current steed for some time.

    Then again all these pictures inspire me to learn to weld....... then in a few decades I might be able to cobble together a bad copy of a bike.


    Those last pics.... very grainy,,,, a phone camera?

    Cool to see the Jeff "givin' it heaps" - just to get it right before a customer receives it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlespeedray
    Cool to see the Jeff "givin' it heaps" - just to get it right before a customer receives it.

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    Of course, the fact that Aqua's bike has a one-of-a-kind wheelset and fork might also have something to do with JJ wanting to do perhaps a bit more testing than usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlespeedray
    ...Those last pics.... very grainy,,,, a phone camera? ...
    More likely because they are action shots in low light. Not that grainy on my monitor.
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    this is the most beautifull, detailed, technically advanced, best handling(i believe) bike i have ever seen. it just set a new standard. it should be replicated for a museum of industrial arts or something..
    WTB: Bomber Z2 1 1/8 steerer, in good to excellent shape OR bomber rebuild kit.

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    so Aqua....

    you gonna do the Gooseberry trip with us??? Break that new 29'er in right and join us for the MLK trip!!! Allison would definitely capture the appropriate photographs to honor the Aqua-Jone's first trip to slickrock!

    Justin "SloMoOTB" Mann

    hahahahaa

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