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    Question for Ti builders

    Am getting back into building some Ti frames from a 20 yr hiatus. Most of my original equipment is gone and I'm slowing putting it all together again.

    I have a new welder, but i need a gas lens for the torch (WP26) that accommodates large cups.

    arc-zone welding supplies has a clear pyrex cup and gas lens kit on fleabay for $80. to fit my torch.

    Anyone had any experience with them?

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    I haven't used one and can't comment on it specifically. Eric Baar uses something like that but I think he had to stuff some scothbrite in it to sort out the gas flow. I know several people who have given them away.

    I'm currently using a Tika cup as sold through UBI ( and it's outrageously good...with some mods. The cheapest way to get into it is just to get a big gas lens and a #12 cup. I used that for years and it works just fine at about 30cfh flow. The Tika needs 40-45.
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    Here is a link to a how to build your own "Tika Cup" style gas lens. Its inexpensive and works adequately. Not quite as good as the Tika cup by UBI, but for a fraction of the price and parts are available at any weld supply store.

    Fabricating a custom Ti welding cup - YouTube


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    Thanks for the input all. There has been a lot of Ti activity in the last 20 years that I've missed out on.

    The Tika cup from UBI doesn't have a listing for a WP26 torch. I have been using a #10 cup with not bad results on some test welds I have been doing, but without a gas lens.

    I may go ahead and try the fleabay kit and at least I can do a review on it for everyone whether good or bad. I really like the idea of the clear pyrex cup that is 1 1/8 " and the visibility it should give.

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    I've used the ck gas saver large cup and it works fine on steel, cannot comment on Ti.
    Gas Saver front end accessory kits from CK Worldwide Quality TIG Welding Torches & Accessories
    I've been disappointed with any Chinese gas lens and prefer good ones like CK.
    I've gone back to a #12 cup but should probably turn up the argon for everything.
    andy walker

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    Nothing on a bike frame needs a pyrek cup. Save the scratch and get a ceramic one.

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