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    17 years ago last week... Bontrager content

    I had just turned 24 years old a few weeks before this pic was taken. Time flies when you're having fun!

    Bontrager


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    Very cool. Do you old timers ever wonder what happened to those frames? I'd like to think they didn't collect dust...... Before they became collectable...... to collect dust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-reg View Post
    Very cool. Do you old timers ever wonder what happened to those frames? I'd like to think they didn't collect dust...... Before they became collectable...... to collect dust.
    The only one I am interested in is my personal bike... a single speed I built there in 1996. There's a forum member who owns it now, but he won't sell it back to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti View Post
    The only one I am interested in is my personal bike... a single speed I built there in 1996. There's a forum member who owns it now, but he won't sell it back to me!
    Begs the question, why not just build yourself a replica?

    It wouldn't be lacking in authenticity after all, even if it wouldn't have quite the same attachment as the original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti View Post
    The only one I am interested in is my personal bike... a single speed I built there in 1996. There's a forum member who owns it now, but he won't sell it back to me!

    Cheers,
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    I'm just keeping it safe for you...

    jw
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne View Post
    I'm just keeping it safe for you...

    jw
    aaarrrrggggghhhhhh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne View Post
    I'm just keeping it safe for you...

    jw
    Why not sell it back?

    I love reuniting previous owners of stuff with gear I'm selling/giving away. Especially if there's a sentimental attachment (as is in this case.)

    Who knows - maybe you can work out some kind of deal

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    It looks like he may actually still ride it....

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    Ok, time for some Antique Roadshow/Pawnstars history from you two.

    Grumpy, how'd you come about owning it... And how did Kirk know you have it?

    Kirk, so are there any special details that made this different from all the others that weren't your personal frame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-reg View Post
    Ok, time for some Antique Roadshow/Pawnstars history from you two.

    Grumpy, how'd you come about owning it... And how did Kirk know you have it?

    Kirk, so are there any special details that made this different from all the others that weren't your personal frame?
    I am not sure how JW ended up with it, but I had traded it to a fiend in Santa Cruz for another bike a few weeks before I moved to Seattle.

    Bontrager frames were very good / fast handling bikes, but a bit too short and steep for my tastes. I always felt like I was going to go over the bars on my stock Race and Race Lite bikes. In fact, I think I did go over the bars more on those bikes than any other bike I had previously owned.

    I custom built this one around a size "large" seat tube, but with a 72* seat tube angle instead of the stock 74* seat tube angle. I also stretched the top tube out to 24" from 23", lengthened the head tube to 5.2" (I think) and steepened the head tube angle from 71.5* to 72*

    It was a very balanced and sharp handling bike. In fact, I liked it so much that all my bikes (hardtails) since then have shared this geo. I don't ride hardtails anymore, but I am tempted to build another one with a slightly longer TT and slacken the HTA to a more fashion forward 68-69*.

    Cheers,
    KP
    Last edited by Kirk Pacenti; 11-30-2012 at 12:29 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti View Post
    aaarrrrggggghhhhhh!

    Kirk,

    I can understand why you'd want that bike back. Some bikes just look right. That Bontrager is one of them.

    Alistair.

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    Hey Kirk, my wife and I used to make frames and with the passage of time it's fun to flashback to each frame like an old friend.

    By the way she says she can still weld you under the table on aluminum. Hahaha!!! A flashback of the Control Tech days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne View Post
    I'm just keeping it safe for you...

    jw
    And the period-correct Titec/Bontrager post and saddle? Ouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sven Trials View Post
    Hey Kirk, my wife and I used to make frames and with the passage of time it's fun to flashback to each frame like an old friend.

    By the way she says she can still weld you under the table on aluminum. Hahaha!!! A flashback of the Control Tech days...
    Do I know your wife? Did she work at Sport Works NW for a while?
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    Ya she worked at Sportworks for a while, had her own shop until manufacturing crashed around here then retrained to be a scrub tech. Now doing hip and knee replacement surgeries.

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    Instead of Kirk building Himself a replica, why not build a replica and make a swap with GrumpyOne for the original? That'd be a win/win situation for both parties I would think.(?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-reg View Post
    Ok, time for some Antique Roadshow/Pawnstars history from you two.

    Grumpy, how'd you come about owning it... And how did Kirk know you have it?

    Kirk, so are there any special details that made this different from all the others that weren't your personal frame?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti View Post
    I am not sure how JW ended up with it, but I had traded it to a fiend in Santa Cruz for another bike a few weeks before I moved to Seattle.
    To further the story...

    I bought it from a gentleman in New Mexico in Early 2004. (After e-mailing back and forth for months trying to close the deal.) He said he bought it via the MTBR Marketplace sometime in 1997 and the seller was from Northern California (Santa Cruz I assume).

    jw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sven Trials View Post
    Ya she worked at Sportworks for a while, had her own shop until manufacturing crashed around here then retrained to be a scrub tech. Now doing hip and knee replacement surgeries.
    Michelle? She was a darn good welder!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Spence View Post
    Kirk,

    I can understand why you'd want that bike back. Some bikes just look right. That Bontrager is one of them.

    Alistair.
    +1, that is one drop dead gorgeous bike! I will never forget her either...
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    Best welding hood ever made!

    Which reminds me I need to get a backup before the auto hood crap takes over and puts huntsman out of business.

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    it is cool1

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    Quote Originally Posted by customfab View Post
    Best welding hood ever made!

    Which reminds me I need to get a backup before the auto hood crap takes over and puts huntsman out of business.
    Agreed, less is more!
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    I never understood the Mono seat stay. Agreed they were a fast handling bike...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogii View Post
    I never understood the Mono seat stay. Agreed they were a fast handling bike...
    What's to understand? Just another way of doing it... Fwiw, I don't care for the aesthetic, but it makes a ton of sense for production bikes. Much more efficient to build wishbone sub-assemblies, than cutting left and right seatstays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne View Post
    I'm just keeping it safe for you...

    jw
    Hi, can you tell me what size the HT is on this bike and what forks you are using? Thanks!

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