Very cool. Do you old timers ever wonder what happened to those frames? I'd like to think they didn't collect dust...... Before they became collectable...... to collect dust.
Very cool. Do you old timers ever wonder what happened to those frames? I'd like to think they didn't collect dust...... Before they became collectable...... to collect dust.
The only one I am interested in is my personal bike... a single speed I built there in 1996. There's a forum member who owns it now, but he won't sell it back to me!
Cheers,
KP
“Those that say it can’t be done should get out of the way of those doing it.”
The only one I am interested in is my personal bike... a single speed I built there in 1996. There's a forum member who owns it now, but he won't sell it back to me!
Begs the question, why not just build yourself a replica?
It wouldn't be lacking in authenticity after all, even if it wouldn't have quite the same attachment as the original.
The only one I am interested in is my personal bike... a single speed I built there in 1996. There's a forum member who owns it now, but he won't sell it back to me!
Cheers,
KP
I'm just keeping it safe for you...
jw
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"And single-speeding 29ers are mountain biking's equivalent of Scientologists..." - Captain Dondo
Ok, time for some Antique Roadshow/Pawnstars history from you two.
Grumpy, how'd you come about owning it... And how did Kirk know you have it?
Kirk, so are there any special details that made this different from all the others that weren't your personal frame?
I am not sure how JW ended up with it, but I had traded it to a fiend in Santa Cruz for another bike a few weeks before I moved to Seattle.
Bontrager frames were very good / fast handling bikes, but a bit too short and steep for my tastes. I always felt like I was going to go over the bars on my stock Race and Race Lite bikes. In fact, I think I did go over the bars more on those bikes than any other bike I had previously owned.
I custom built this one around a size "large" seat tube, but with a 72* seat tube angle instead of the stock 74* seat tube angle. I also stretched the top tube out to 24" from 23", lengthened the head tube to 5.2" (I think) and steepened the head tube angle from 71.5* to 72*
It was a very balanced and sharp handling bike. In fact, I liked it so much that all my bikes (hardtails) since then have shared this geo. I don't ride hardtails anymore, but I am tempted to build another one with a slightly longer TT and slacken the HTA to a more fashion forward 68-69*.
Cheers,
KP
Last edited by Kirk Pacenti; 11-30-2012 at 12:29 PM.
“Those that say it can’t be done should get out of the way of those doing it.”
Ya she worked at Sportworks for a while, had her own shop until manufacturing crashed around here then retrained to be a scrub tech. Now doing hip and knee replacement surgeries.
Instead of Kirk building Himself a replica, why not build a replica and make a swap with GrumpyOne for the original? That'd be a win/win situation for both parties I would think.(?)
Ok, time for some Antique Roadshow/Pawnstars history from you two.
Grumpy, how'd you come about owning it... And how did Kirk know you have it?
Kirk, so are there any special details that made this different from all the others that weren't your personal frame?
Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti
I am not sure how JW ended up with it, but I had traded it to a fiend in Santa Cruz for another bike a few weeks before I moved to Seattle.
To further the story...
I bought it from a gentleman in New Mexico in Early 2004. (After e-mailing back and forth for months trying to close the deal.) He said he bought it via the MTBR Marketplace sometime in 1997 and the seller was from Northern California (Santa Cruz I assume).
jw
Last edited by GrumpyOne; 12-04-2012 at 08:20 AM.
Reason: Found an old e-mail...
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"And single-speeding 29ers are mountain biking's equivalent of Scientologists..." - Captain Dondo
Ya she worked at Sportworks for a while, had her own shop until manufacturing crashed around here then retrained to be a scrub tech. Now doing hip and knee replacement surgeries.
Michelle? She was a darn good welder!
“Those that say it can’t be done should get out of the way of those doing it.”
I never understood the Mono seat stay. Agreed they were a fast handling bike...
What's to understand? Just another way of doing it... Fwiw, I don't care for the aesthetic, but it makes a ton of sense for production bikes. Much more efficient to build wishbone sub-assemblies, than cutting left and right seatstays.
Cheers,
KP
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