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    Help me choose my Foes!

    I have been interested in Foes for a couple of years now. This year, I am going to buy my first one.
    But I need help choosing. I knew this would be the place to help.
    I am looking for a trial bike that I can do a race or 24 hour on. I will build it up with light components, I would like to get it around 26 pounds??
    I live in PA and ride alot of differnt terrain. We have it all from tight, twisty single track, technical with rock gardens, roots, drops and DH. I am not going to do any freeride or DH!
    I want a bike that I can do some serious trail riding with, and turn around and do a race the next weekend.
    I might even set it up as a 69er. Has anyone atempted this. It is an awsome concept!
    I guess I am looking at a xct-4 or xct-5?
    I asked Foes about weight, and there is only .10 of a pound diferance between a 4 and a 5.
    I will definatly get it with a Curnutt Air.
    Help me out guys!
    One more thing, can I run a 2.35 on the rear of these bikes?

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    Not super light

    MBA had a test of the of the 2:1 prolite that didn't get below 26 lbs with full xtr and all things light so your weight target might be too low. My experience with my 3 Foes bikes I've had over the last 8 years(Weasel,Fly,FXR) is that they aren't light, but they pedal light. I rode my Fly as my only bike for a year and a half and I took it on several 4-6000 ft climbs with close to 30 miles on some of them, and I've never been a very strong rider. My FXR is an 07 with a steel Curnutt built with carbon bar/post, King hubs/headset, Racefave Turbine cranks, frog pedals, Hope M4, sub 700g tires with 100g tubes and it weighs close to 33 lbs, but it climbs better than a sub 29 lb 5" Ventana Ciclon but not as well as a 5 Spot, epiphany or 4" El Rey so don't get too wound up about weight. Foes is supposed to be having a Demo ride close by on the 15th, if you have not pulled the trigger by then I'll try to remember to post my impression of the XCT5.

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    Go with the XCT-5

    Build a XCT-5 with lightweight components. It will be about 29lbs and you will be happier than a pig in shat.

    Not to sure about the 69er concept on a FOES though. It may screw up the handling a little which is one of the reasons we ride a FOES. I myself try to keep my sex life separate from my mountain biking.

    I built my FXR with all XTR and CK with a Fox 36 Float(the lightest of the 36's) and I could only get it to 31lbs.

    Inside joke time- What ever you do, don't forget the seatpost that goes up and down.

    Just my .02

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    I don't know if that is as light as it can get and be reasonably strong. I built my 08 fxr with a 36 talas and it weighs 28 and 4 oz. I just put a 09 36 float on it yesterday and haven't put it on a scale yet but 28 lbs. even is what it should come in at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxr man
    I don't know if that is as light as it can get and be reasonably strong. I built my 08 fxr with a 36 talas and it weighs 28 and 4 oz. I just put a 09 36 float on it yesterday and haven't put it on a scale yet but 28 lbs. even is what it should come in at.
    Please give up the component list on that build. I would love to see where I could scrape off a few lbs.

    Sorry Wojo, didn't mean to steal your thread.

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    mbernard71, if you look down the the list of threads you will find FINALLY by fxr man, in there is the spec list.

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    An XCT 4 would be plenty of bike with a 5" fork. Put $3500 into it, and it should be a well balanced climber/descender.

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    You could do the XCT 4 with a 5" fork but I've never been fond of of different travel lengths on front and back. With a 5" fork on the XCT 4 you get the about the same head tube angle as an XCT-5....but with only 4 inches of rear travel rather than 5. I'm looking at an XCT 5 for myself plus looking to put a floating brake adapter on it. It will replace my 08 SJ FSR PRO so brake jack is a big issue for me. I've ridden our shops XCT 4 demo and really, really, REALLY like the lateral stiffness and the Curnutt Air shock on it. Probably do it Kawasaki green with a white Fox RLC 120 15 QR...

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    The XCT 4 has 4.5 inches of travel. I have one with a 4" fork and it is not even feeling. Put a five inch fork and it feels and rides great.

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    Demoday!

    Unfortunatly even getting there early the XCT5 was gone, still gone after the ride and hanging out for 40 minutes after we were done. I took out the XCT4 instead. I wasn't feeling strong but I still managed the 4 mile climb in the middle ring with the rear brake dragging and 2.2 telonix tires so I think it'll kick arse with a better set up and rider.
    DH it was awsome for a 4" bike and those freeridish tires came into there own. I would like to try this bike with a 120 fork to slacken it and match the feel of the rear suspension, a set of 2.4 Nobby Nicks would make it lighter and faster without a traction loss. Fun bike.
    My freind and I were prodding Brent to build a 29r but he has no plans as yet.

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    Xct 5

    Hey man I don't know when you plan on making a decision, but just want to let you know that I have an XCT-5 on order. Should be here soon. I have all the components here anxiously awaiting the build. So should have some initial impressions for you in a couple of weeks *crosses fingers* if you're curious. I've been riding a Specialized Epic for the last 3-4 yrs that I use for XC racing and it weighs @ 26lbs. Based on my calc's of the XCT 5 frame + component weights, I expect the XCT-5 to weigh in @ 30lbs. So should be a good comparison in terms of weight.

    Let me know if you're interested.

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