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    Hope 11 speed slx paired with zee crank..

    hey i know this is out of the topic, but i would like to ask if an 11 speed SLX cogs and RD compatible with a shimano ZEE crank 36T?? thank you for the future respond... planning to build a 1 x 11 with slx 11speed components but a ZEE crank..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm91 View Post
    hey i know this is out of the topic, but i would like to ask if an 11 speed SLX cogs and RD compatible with a shimano ZEE crank 36T?? thank you for the future respond... planning to build a 1 x 11 with slx 11speed components but a ZEE crank..
    I've never used that particular combination but I cannot imagine that it wouldn't work.
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    36t? There are world cup CX racers on 34s.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    tnx for encouraging me to try it lol.. though i am hesitant...

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    travis im not competing for world cup XD i just want my set up to fit my kind of ride.. a mix of XC and enduro and DH.. if its possible ahahaha

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    So on the new Scott Genius I ordered, wondering what to do if I decide to go 1X(it has 2x10). I have 1x11 on my hardtail and really like it. I don't want to spend too much money but wondering if I could switch to maybe 1X10 using same rear derailleur and shifter and replacing front with maye 30T. Can't hurt to try it I guess, I have a 30T from my other bike? FYI, Are these decent components?

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    You can get a Wolftooth Goatlink, and a Sunrace 11-42 10 speed cassette. The derailleur and goatlink will also work with an 11 speed cassette. It's also possible to go smaller than a 30t ring in the 64 BCD granny position. Rings will give a good chainline because they're made of 1X.
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    Thanks! I think I will get the goatlink and 11-42 Sunrace cassette. Otherwise too much going on with twinloc remote dropper remote etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    You can get a Wolftooth Goatlink, and a Sunrace 11-42 10 speed cassette. The derailleur and goatlink will also work with an 11 speed cassette. It's also possible to go smaller than a 30t ring in the 64 BCD granny position. Rings will give a good chainline because they're made of 1X.
    This. I did it on my fat bike. 26t AB oval. 11-42 sunrace 10 speed cassette. XT 10 speed shifter and RD. Love it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    ... Rings will give a good chainline because they're made of 1X.
    1X = wonder material! Everything should be made of it LOL!
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    Yes, now made of 1X, stronger, lighter, faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    You can get a Wolftooth Goatlink, and a Sunrace 11-42 10 speed cassette. The derailleur and goatlink will also work with an 11 speed cassette. It's also possible to go smaller than a 30t ring in the 64 BCD granny position. Rings will give a good chainline because they're made of 1X.
    So I could get a 11 speed shifter and go 1x11 with following parts(if derailleur will work with 11 speed)? I have a SRAM 30T chainring but not sure if it would be compatible, might have to get new chainring also?


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    Narrow wide rings are normally 10 and 11 compatible.
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    A few years ago I went 1x10 by running only the middle ring on my fs 29r and missed the easy gears. Shifting was flawless even without the narrow wide parts. I just finished building my new 140mm 27.5 fs bike and went with the narrow wide fully designed for single chain ring with boost and for the most part I haven't missed the 2nd and 3rd chain rings, except for one idiosyncratic issue that may be limited to a few people. When I'm picking my way through rock gardens I'll sometimes ratchet my cranks to ensure my pedals don't strike rocks and that I'm in my best part of the power stroke for getting over obstacles. Sometimes when I'm in my lowest gear the chain will track down the cassette as I back pedal to set my pedals and then when I go for power it shifts back up the cassette and messes me up due to high misalignment. I may be able to unlearn that technique but at 52 I may not. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it something I'll need to adapt to or have I messed up the setup on this build?

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    The back pedal issue normally only happens in the big cog, and not to everyone. Chainline effects this. There is a thread in Drivetrain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    ... There is a thread in Drivetrain.
    Here it is.
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    I'm enjoying this thread. Up until two weeks ago, both my bikes were 3x9. I knew they were antiquated, but I could see no sense in throwing good money at nine year old and five year old bikes. So I put them on Craigslist, and now I'm rockin' a modern bike with 1x12.
    Admittedly, it's kind of boutiquey at this point and 1x11 would be almost as good. But the sun is clearly setting on the front derailleur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyIron View Post
    I'm enjoying this thread. Up until two weeks ago, both my bikes were 3x9. I knew they were antiquated, but I could see no sense in throwing good money at nine year old and five year old bikes. So I put them on Craigslist, and now I'm rockin' a modern bike with 1x12.
    Admittedly, it's kind of boutiquey at this point and 1x11 would be almost as good. But the sun is clearly setting on the front derailleur.
    My bike is brand new so that why I don't want to switch over yet, although it sounds like if I go with 1x10 I only have to get Goatlink and maybe 1x10 cassette to get the lower gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossracer View Post
    I did this a few years ago and I can generally say after almost 30 years of riding the 1x setup was the most amazing difference on the bike that I can point too.



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    Really? Have you tried disc brakes, dual suspension, a dropper post, or modern frame geometry? These are game changers and are much more important than changing to a single chain ring.

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    I get a chuckle reading Mountain Bike Action, when reviewing a 1x11 and calling the 30 tooth front sprocket "under geared."

    Man, I could use a few more gears in the back. One thing for sure, a 1x11 makes a 50+ year old work a lot harder.

    I'm gonna count my chain ring when I get home, as it feels like I'm turning a 32 tooth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ravewoofer View Post
    I get a chuckle reading Mountain Bike Action, when reviewing a 1x11 and calling the 30 tooth front sprocket "under geared."

    Man, I could use a few more gears in the back. One thing for sure, a 1x11 makes a 50+ year old work a lot harder.

    I'm gonna count my chain ring when I get home, as it feels like I'm turning a 32 tooth.


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    When I specced my new Warden 2.5 years ago, I went from 2X9 to 1X10, and made sure that I had the same gear inch granny gear. 28 X 11-42 gets it done here, and these days I rarely use the 42, and never use the 11 on the trail.
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    You guys make me feel like one badass old dude! I wore out my 30 & bought a 32T oval. I am now having a hard time keeping my chain on and am moving up to a 34T oval. I m also spending more time out of the saddle and enjoying it quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttchad View Post
    You guys make me feel like one badass old dude! I wore out my 30 & bought a 32T oval. I am now having a hard time keeping my chain on and am moving up to a 34T oval. I m also spending more time out of the saddle and enjoying it quite a bit.
    Oops! I need to wait 5 more years before I can post here. I just saw 1x11.

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    Over the course of about 2 years I went from 3 x 8, 2 x 10 and now 1 x 11. I like the 1 x 11 the most.

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    Well at 54 now and have been on 3x9 for years but my new build should be done tomorrow
    and sports the new 1x12 eagle. Excited to see how it works out and since so many here have gone 1x and love it i thought i should make the jump. my old set up had a 22 x 36 low gear on 26" wheels so hoping the 32 x 50 with 27.5 rear wheel will have at least the same or better low gear for the steep climbs on my local trails.

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    fxr - just looking at simple gear ratios 22/36=0.61 versus 32/50=0.64, without taking wheel size into consideration, you are looking at a higher gear ratio than what you are used to, but at your age, you should be able to handle that ratio for most hills. Taking wheel size into account, ratio would be even higher for 27.5. Still, you're going to love it, and if it's too tough, just go to a 30 tooth chain ring (30/50=.60)
    I went with 28x42 for a 0.66 ratio on a 27.5 setup and don't use the 42 tooth cog that often, and that at 67 years old, so you should be fine.
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    I converted my S works FSR stumpy 26 to 27.5 and went to a 1X11 with 30 up front. I then picked up a set of EC 90 29" wheels and put on 700C X 35 gravel tires that I pop on the stumpy for riding with roadies. The bike works well as duel purpose but lacked high end and real low end. Went back to 3 X 9. XTR crank 44-33-22 rings with XTR front derailleur. I am shifting with Sram XO grip shift. Rear setup is Sram XO mid cage and 11-34 sram 991. Pretty quiet and shifts flawless.
    On my fat bike I have 1X11 Sram setup with 42 up front and 11X42 in rear running Maxxis Minion 4.8 X 26 tires. Would love to drop the 11 tooth and add a 50 tooth in the rear.

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    Thanks for the info and doing the math. I will try this setup to see how it works out and now I can see that my granny will be higher and admittedly I used all of my previous low gears on my local trails. I will hopefully get stronger so it's not an issue but knowing I can go to 30 if need be is very helpful.
    Again thanks for the reply..!!

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    BikeCalc.com - Bicycle Gear Inches Chart Here, use this with gear inches and you can do a direct comparison regardless of wheel size.
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    I recently converted to 1x11. 24t chainring and 11-42 cassette. I've only ridden a few times since converting, but the immediate results have been great!

    Before conversion, my climbing gear was a 34t top ring and the small 22t chainring. Since converting, I am climbing better in 3rd gear at 24x32 (0.75 gear ratio) than I ever did 22x34 (0.65 gear ratio). Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but I'll take it. I still haven't been in the top two gears (37 and 42), but we have a ride coming up this weekend that will really test that. A ridiculously steep, slick-rock climb that I've never made more than 1/2 way.

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    I put my 1x11 Sunrace cassette, new Shimano XT shifter and oval chainring on but I can't get the shifter to go on 46T granny gear. It almost seems like they sent me a 10 speed shifter. No markings on it. With cable disconnected only shifts 9 times.
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    Seems to be shifting 10 times now but still won't climb on last cog. Limit screws are good chain is taught. B screw bottomed out might need a longer one.
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    Time for a new bunch of threads for anyone who didn't go 11. It looks like we'll see a whole bunch of GX Eagle bikes soon.

    I meant that to be as silly as it was serious because just yesterday my wife said after 2 years she doesn't see the need to change the 32t that was stock with her 11 speed to the 30t I bought with it but I do understand where the 12 speed range would help some.

    We are considering a bike more like her Remedy 29 and the idea of a closeout 11 speed seems more attractive than more money for 12 with both far more attractive than some Shimano 2x we see in our size.

    Our Honzo with poor man's Deore 1x has a lot of parts wear and NX looks like a better idea than 3rd party stuff for more 10 speed range.

    Knowing this is our old fart's section of the forum.... My wife and I have been doing our best to ride often and at mid-June I'm 155 miles of single track ahead of last year. It's look in the mirror honesty, but the riding does a lot to overcome thinking gearing is the answer. That's a lot of on and off the bench from cancer for her and some wearing out parts for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yalerider View Post
    Seems to be shifting 10 times now but still won't climb on last cog. Limit screws are good chain is taught. B screw bottomed out might need a longer one.
    You might check your hanger for straightness. It doesn't need to be too far tweaked to shift poorly.
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    I sent a message to company I ordered kit from. They are local so maybe I can just bring bike in. It just seems like I got a 10 speed shifter but i can't tell. I did put Wolftooth Goatlink II on and it shift nice for first 10 cogs anyway
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    Do you get 10 clicks out of the Shifter? If so then it's 11 speed. 10 shifts plus the one you started in equals 11! Check your limit screws and B-tension.

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