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    You are going to build a Ti Fat Bike ?

    So which one do you go for ?

    Theres Fatback, 9:zero:7, Carver, Sandman, Salsa and a few other nice frames ......

    Now the only one i can get in Oz without importing it is a Carver O'Beast.

    I am going to ride this bike 95% single track/ 5% sand, loving my Mukluk but got some surplus to lose a bit of weight. Im selling an expensive FS bike to fund this project because i reckon fat is the way to go.

    Opinions please and thanks in advance
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    I cant really comment on any of those bikes because everyone likes something different, but I can say that building up a fat bike frame has been a hellva lot of fun for me. I started my project about 2months ago and I have to say, if you're not in a rush to get it built, it can be cheaper and better then anything that comes pre-built.

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    Add Moots, Vertigo, Quiring, Twentytwo & Blacksheep, to your choices for Ti Fatties.
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    For singletrack the Sandman would be had to beat, with the answer forks.

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    Lynskey too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    did you mean Flame??
    Same thing, I thought.
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    Next one will likely be a Black Sheep though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    I am going to ride this bike 95% single track/ 5% sand, loving my Mukluk but got some surplus to lose a bit of weight. Im selling an expensive FS bike to fund this project because i reckon fat is the way to go.

    Opinions please and thanks in advance
    I'd consider an AL fat bike and spending the differential on the lightest parts that will suit your needs. There is probably less than 1lb difference between a Ti and an AL fatbike and quite likely less than 0.5lbs depending on which ones are comparing.

    You can save more weight if you throw a lot of money at the wheels and other parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myheadsashed View Post
    For singletrack the Sandman would be had to beat, with the answer forks.
    did you mean Flame??

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    Just switched from a Pugsley to a Ti Fatback made by Lynskey. Very very pleased with the ride quality so far. Considerably lighter and more agile than the Pugs. Paired with a Lefty it is a blast on singletrack and techy rock.

    Weight savings from Al to Ti may be nominal, there are much cheaper ways to save weight. What you are paying for is the feel of the material, specific geometry of the frame, and bling factor. Would you prefer the (Mukluk) upright riding position or more aggressive one, what length of wheelbase, and 135 or 170mm rear. If you want to go very fast on rough trails a front suspension does wonders but will cost you 3+ pounds and options are somewhat limited...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    Same thing, I thought.
    the german-a flame is produced/manuf in germany and as far as i can tell answer products have 2 distribution points, WI USA and Taiwan. Perhaps you were thinking of Manitou??

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    Form Cycles is making fatties too!
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    Here's a vote for Twenty2. Light, fast, fun, beautifully made,professional company, responsive and great to deal with. A few other reasons for going Ti: no worries about rust or paint, and you can renew the finish easily. Durable, generally good resale value. Arguably the best material for a mountain bike frame if cost is not a factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    the german-a flame is produced/manuf in germany and as far as i can tell answer products have 2 distribution points, WI USA and Taiwan. Perhaps you were thinking of Manitou??
    The "A" in German:A is Answer. Not sure if they're related to the Answer of Manitou fame. german:A.® - lightweight bike engineering since 1995 / +49 (0) 60 36 / 98 36 00

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    just wait for the carbon frames to come out.
    (what? SOMEBODY'S gotta do it!)


    i wonder if those chinese companies that make the cheap carbon frames share info with the ones that make the cheap ti fatbike frames... because if they do the groundwork for the numbers is all there already.
    If steel is real then aluminium is supercallafragiliniun!

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    Yous have gave me a lot to think about .... and google
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    I'm guesting that carver will be the first to come out with a full squish, just so happen it'll be ti....that would be my choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    I'm guesting that carver will be the first to come out with a full squish, just so happen it'll be ti....that would be my choice.
    Mine too

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    The "A" in German:A is Answer. Not sure if they're related to the Answer of Manitou fame. german:A.® - lightweight bike engineering since 1995 / +49 (0) 60 36 / 98 36 00
    good to know thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood ! View Post
    Mine too

    Emailed Davis and ETA is approx 3 weeks
    Ooooh so quick!
    Must start eating ramen noodles and saving pennies lol. So sweet.

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    Satisfied with Salsa

    While it's probably not up to the level of artistry (or price) of some of the custom builders out there, I am extremely pleased with my Salsa Ti Mukluk. I also own a Seven Verve singlespeed and a Merlin Ultralight which it certainly compares quite favorably to.

    In spite of the snow in the photo below, I live in San Diego and this bike gets ridden extensively on rock studded trails where the compliance of the frame and tires makes the lack of suspension a non-issue. I have no intention of ever adding a suspension fork to this frame and it has served me very well on rides up to 40 miles long, as well as ones I normally take my 8" travel freeride bike on. As shown, it weighs about 30 pounds.

    Ultimately, it's your money, but you certainly won't go wrong or be disappointed with Ti. It's an absolutely stunning material for a bike frame.
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    Yep, already in the cue

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    Next one will likely be a Black Sheep though...
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    Thats a nice Ti Muk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devine Intervention View Post
    While it's probably not up to the level of artistry (or price) of some of the custom builders out there....
    I thought the Salsa Ti frames were made by a big American builder? Should be the same quality as any top-notch Ti frame, just not custom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devine Intervention View Post
    While it's probably not up to the level of artistry (or price) of some of the custom builders out there, I am extremely pleased with my Salsa Ti Mukluk. I also own a Seven Verve singlespeed and a Merlin Ultralight which it certainly compares quite favorably to.

    In spite of the snow in the photo below, I live in San Diego and this bike gets ridden extensively on rock studded trails where the compliance of the frame and tires makes the lack of suspension a non-issue. I have no intention of ever adding a suspension fork to this frame and it has served me very well on rides up to 40 miles long, as well as ones I normally take my 8" travel freeride bike on. As shown, it weighs about 30 pounds.

    Ultimately, it's your money, but you certainly won't go wrong or be disappointed with Ti. It's an absolutely stunning material for a bike frame.
    Very nice - Darryls or Marge Lites on there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pursuiter View Post
    I thought the Salsa Ti frames were made by a big American builder? Should be the same quality as any top-notch Ti frame, just not custom.
    Yes, Lynskey. They do a lot of rebranded Ti frames, including Fatbacks.
    Let the market decide!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devine Intervention View Post
    ...

    In spite of the snow in the photo below, I live in San Diego and this bike gets ridden extensively on rock studded trails where the compliance of the frame and tires makes the lack of suspension a non-issue. I have no intention of ever adding a suspension fork to this frame and it has served me very well on rides up to 40 miles long, as well as ones I normally take my 8" travel freeride bike on. As shown, it weighs about 30 pounds.

    ...
    FWIW, I would consider a Ti fork. Done right, it's like adding ~1" of suspension with no weight penalty. Still not as plush as a real squishy fork, but it really helps.
    Let the market decide!

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    Best I've Seen So Far . . .

    The wheels on my bike are Marge Lights.

    The picture below was the one I was lusting after, but wasn't going to happen. Still stunning to look at though. Now that's a custom bike!
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    yup very nice indeed

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    Have a Triton Ti fat frame on order. Havent gotten far enough give a proper recommendation. But, delays aside, communications have been great so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smallfurry View Post
    Have a Triton Ti fat frame on order. Havent gotten far enough give a proper recommendation. But, delays aside, communications have been great so far.
    Very cool, when do you expect to receive it ?
    Any drawings to share ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smallfurry View Post
    Have a Triton Ti fat frame on order. Havent gotten far enough give a proper recommendation. But, delays aside, communications have been great so far.
    I have been looking at the Triton thread a lot in the last few weeks, and i like what i have seen so far.
    Quality is high, and the prices are affordable.
    And he is located in Russia and that makes it easier, cheaper to ship, and more tax friendlier for us me as a European as well.

    So i am very interested in how the bike will turn out.
    Is it 4.7 compatible as well ?

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    Ti Fatty

    I have a 2012 Ti Fatback that I've been doing most of my trailriding and XC races on this year. This past week I swapped out my Moots Ti bar for an Easton EC90 riser. The Easton bar is a dream, makes the ride even more plush, don't see any need for me to ever use a suspension fork on it. I'm using a steel fork as I often tap into the rack mounts for mounting my GoPro or other items, although I'm tempted to get the carbon Fatback fork. I find it maneuvers just as well as my Ti 29r. For rims, I'm using the latest UMA 70's.

    If I'm not mistaken, both the Fatback and Ti Mukluk share the same 70-degree headtube angle which is really nice for a Fatbike. Going through sand and rough downhills I find easier than any of my other bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utabintarbo View Post
    Yes, Lynskey. They do a lot of rebranded Ti frames, including Fatbacks.
    No Lynskey does not build the Ti. Mukluk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabies010 View Post
    I have been looking at the Triton thread a lot in the last few weeks, and i like what i have seen so far.
    Quality is high, and the prices are affordable.
    And he is located in Russia and that makes it easier, cheaper to ship, and more tax friendlier for us me as a European as well.

    So i am very interested in how the bike will turn out.
    Is it 4.7 compatible as well ?
    Feel free to message me if you'd like more detailed info.

    Prices are very good. They are a bike specific company, with a good knowledge base. So, while all the builds are fully custom. You dont need to idiot proof your requests. They have built fat bikes before. But only for delivery within Russia. I have designed my frame to be BFL compatible, and I will also be using rocker drop-outs. My hope is to make the bike a stable studded BFL wearing snow bike for the winter (with enabler fork), and a nice handling trail hardtail for the summer (with fat lefty). Time will tell if we manage to pull this off.

    Options are growing all the time as the workshop grows. I did originally request a tapered head tube for example, and I believe they can offer more tube bending options now too. They are currently experiancing heavy delays though. I use a lot of micro bike companies, and am kinda used to this. Felt I should mention it though.

    Hope that helps.
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    Ok, i have ordered a 2012 Carver O'beast as i can buy it locally and the geo/weight/price is good.

    It now comes with a larger seatpost and rack mounts above the already documented 2012 spec. I could have done without the mounts but the seatpost at 31.6 rather than 27.2 is welcome.

    Carbon O'beast fork too..... pics to follow in a few weeks.
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