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    xx1 crank with next sl spindle

    Found out they have same insert,so have to try it out xx1 crank with next sl spindle-dsc_0027.jpgxx1 crank with next sl spindle-dsc_0030.jpg

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    Now this is interesting!!

    What width spindle and what is the distance between the inside of the arms?

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    since i had a xx1 crank i was not using,it was cheaper to buy the spindle instead of a new crank

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    for 170 rear spacing,it is 140 mm between the arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortenste View Post
    for 170 rear spacing,it is 140 mm between the arms.
    Thanks dude!!

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    Hmmmmm. I wonder if the XO-1 would have the same spindle/crank interface? Can someone verify? I'm looking for a 100mm option in a carbon crank with 175mm arms...

    Thanks!

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    probably the same,if it is bb30 spindle.

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    Whose red chainring is that?

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    It is a absolute Black chainring.

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    I'm interested in giving this a try. What Q factor are those cranks? What frame did you put them on and how did they fit? I'm curious if this would work with the narrower 156q cranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortenste View Post
    since i had a xx1 crank i was not using,it was cheaper to buy the spindle instead of a new crank
    This is good info. My question is how did you get the xx1 spindle out? I thought the axle was pressed in on the drive side? I only have the gxp version so I am not sure if itis different from the bb30. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by uwprunner View Post
    I'm interested in giving this a try. What Q factor are those cranks? What frame did you put them on and how did they fit? I'm curious if this would work with the narrower 156q cranks.
    I am about to put them on a fb-02 chinese frame,dont know the Q factor

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    Not pressed on the bb30.i had to use alot of force to screw it off, and a rubber mallet to punch out the spindle.

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    Where were you able to order the 100mm next sl spindle?

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    Ebay

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    Nice find right there, Bam!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CYCLEJCE View Post
    Hmmmmm. I wonder if the XO-1 would have the same spindle/crank interface? Can someone verify? I'm looking for a 100mm option in a carbon crank with 175mm arms...

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    Hi,

    I tried the same, but I think it isn't that simple.
    The spindle fits perfectly, and the solution is some ~30gr lighter than the genuine XX1 GXP crank for fatbikes. But the q-factor is way to big for 170mm rears. Perhaps this works with a 190mm rear or you must look for the smaller Q-156 version of the BB30 crank. I had only the wider version with q-168.
    (the shown race face spindle is the 170mm version and the gxp XX1 also)
    (The weight of the BB30 version with race face spindle is about 475gr.)

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    Its 10 mm clearence with the raceface spindle.is that to much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by larres View Post
    Hi,

    I tried the same, but I think it isn't that simple.
    The spindle fits perfectly, and the solution is some ~30gr lighter than the genuine XX1 GXP crank for fatbikes. But the q-factor is way to big for 170mm rears. Perhaps this works with a 190mm rear or you must look for the smaller Q-156 version of the BB30 crank. I had only the wider version with q-168.
    (the shown race face spindle is the 170mm version and the gxp XX1 also)
    (The weight of the BB30 version with race face spindle is about 475gr.)

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    Thanks!! Do you happen to know the distance between the inside of the arms with the Next spindle installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortenste View Post
    Its 10 mm clearence with the raceface spindle.is that to much?
    me believes not.

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    I ve measured ~22,3cm from outside to outside at the hole for the pedals.
    Here is a picture from the mounted GXP Fatbike crank. That is about 1cm distance, on a 2013 Mukluk 2.
    The BB30 crank would be to wide for me.


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    maybe with the gxp crank i would bump into the chainstay.so cheaper and better option for me with the race face spindle.

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    Anybody know if this would work with regular XO GXP crank arms? I think it's the 168 q factor...
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    Wait, does this mean that I could use the arms of my XX1 BB30 156q cranks on the spindle of the Race Face Turbine cranks on the Yampa I ordered?

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    If the race face is a bb30 yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by larres View Post
    I ve measured ~22,3cm from outside to outside at the hole for the pedals.
    Here is a picture from the mounted GXP Fatbike crank. That is about 1cm distance, on a 2013 Mukluk 2.
    The BB30 crank would be to wide for me.


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    i need a wider q factor. so accordingly the 190mm spindle would produce roughly a 22.3cm from inside to inside of the crankarms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortenste View Post
    for 170 rear spacing,it is 140 mm between the arms.
    Is this at the spindle? Seems improbable that the width is 140mm at the pedal...

    Can anyone confirm the Q factor with the 100mm (for 170mm hubs) Race Face Spindle? I have an opportunity to get some BB30 Q168 cranks and I consider doing it - if the Q is sufficiently narrow. (i.e. not too much wider than 202.5mm that is on my X5 cranks, with means 176mm between the inside of the crank arms at the pedal).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hssp View Post
    Is this at the spindle? Seems improbable that the width is 140mm at the pedal...

    Can anyone confirm the Q factor with the 100mm (for 170mm hubs) Race Face Spindle? I have an opportunity to get some BB30 Q168 cranks and I consider doing it - if the Q is sufficiently narrow. (i.e. not too much wider than 202.5mm that is on my X5 cranks, with means 176mm between the inside of the crank arms at the pedal).
    The q-factor with a standard SRAM x0 BB30 crank (Q168mm) combined with the RF 170mm cinch spindle is more or less 210mm. This is exactly in the middle between the RF Next SL crank with 170mm spindle (q-factor 202mm) and the Next SL crank with 190mm spindle (q-factor 222mm). For me, this is perfect...


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    Thanks. Then this option will be out of the question for me. Maybe if I go for a Q156 on my Bucksaw?!?

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    What is the exact lenght of the 170 spindle?


    Thanks in advance.


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    X0 BB30 crank with cinch spindle

    Although it was not intended for a fat bike I decided to share my project of swapping a SRAM BB30/PF30 spindle for a Race Face Cinch spindle.
    I had a SRAM X0 BB30 crank collecting dust and wanted to install it in a BMC carbon frame with 92mm BB shell. The spindle was too short so I ordered a 134.5mm Race Face 30 mm spindle. I followed the instructions described in this post and worked great. Some things to consider:
    - The spindle ends portion that fits in the crank arm are 2 mm shorter than the SRAM so you have to add around 4 mm to the spindle length that your are gonna use because the ends do not get to the edge of the crank arm
    - Get a M18 steel bolt (Race Face X type) to hammer the spindle out of the left crank arm and also to torque the new spindle. You will avoid damaging the SRAM alloy M18 bolt the comes with the crank. Once the spindle is pressed you can remove the steel bolt and place the alloy one.
    - My Q-Factor went from 168 to 185 mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuster_md View Post
    - Get a M18 steel bolt (Race Face X type) to hammer the spindle out of the left crank arm and also to torque the new spindle. You will avoid damaging the SRAM alloy M18 bolt the comes with the crank. Once the spindle is pressed you can remove the steel bolt and place the alloy one.
    Hi!
    What a torque moment for a left crankarm alloy bolt?
    And it need a grease or locktite?

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    I think that it is a good way to avoid buying the stages spindle and can install the carbon version in a Sram mtb crankset.

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    No, it is not valid for what I thought. Actual spindle is shorter than needed and also it is compatible, see the next picture:xx1 crank with next sl spindle-stages-cycling-power-meter-carbon-bb30-welle-fuer-sram_b2.jpg

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