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    Would you replace a Pugsley with a Krampus? - Snow performance

    Anyone ride a Knard on snow? Will Surly have winter (think Nates) tires available by winter ya think?

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    Krampus is a gateway drug to fatbikes not the other way around. I suppose you could use it for withdrawal symptoms.
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    Haha, maybe. But I do like the taller wheels and higher BB. I could see that being advantageous in snow.

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    maybe if you weighed about 100 lbs
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    Nope. Unless you're going to be riding only trails that are well groomed and can be ridden by regular MTBs.
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    The Knards fill up the rear of a Krampus so any knobbier tire will have to be built on a narrower casing for the rear. There is lots of room up front for a knobby tire.

    The Krampus is not a fat bike. It's a 29er. People have ridden non-fatbikes in the snow in winter. So if you are riding fairly well packed trails than the Krampus will be fine, but it won't replace a fatbike if the terrain you ride has really soft conditions.
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    Disagree with jaredbe (respectfully). My Krampus is a great compliment to my Mukluk- it picks on the Muk's weaknesses and improves on them. It is fast, comfortable and agile.

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    Would like a Krampus, but it won't be replacing the Pug!
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    IMHO? Direct answer to the question?

    No.
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    I rode a Pugs and a Krampus on the same day on the same trail thirty minutes apart. Two completely different animals.
    I actually liked the Krampus better. The fatty was better for the soft stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by western high plains View Post
    Anyone ride a Knard on snow?

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    No, but I do believe that on a winter ride with 40+/- fatbikes, I saw the one Krampus return to the stable to be replaced for the day by a demo fatbike.

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    I think the Krampus is the way 29ers should be heading (based on a very brief ride). It is a great bike, but it's well short of a fatbike for purpose.

    The difference in tyre volume is considerable, so there's no way you'll get the same flotation benefits out of a Krampus.

    I'd consider buying one as a dry trails bike, but I already use my 907 with Larrys for that and it performs well enough that I never use my 29er.
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    Pugsley + Rabbit Hole + Knards = best of all worlds.
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    Sounds like you only have budget for one bike. I'd replace your pugs with a krampus for the summer, and then save up for a larger rimmed fatbike for the winter. Then you'd be set with two bikes.

    You could get a separate set of wheels for the pugs, but that's not cheap. It's less than a separate bike, but in my view not enough less. Remember a new bike comes with new tires and drivetrain, which are "expendable" items. (Two bikes wear out half as fast as one bike....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teton29er View Post
    You could get a separate set of wheels for the pugs, but that's not cheap. It's less than a separate bike, but in my view not enough less. Remember a new bike comes with new tires and drivetrain, which are "expendable" items. (Two bikes wear out half as fast as one bike....)
    Keep the Pugs and get a Krampus. The cost of selling a used Pugs and buying a new one after a summer is not worth it. Unless you don't need a fatbike in which case sell the Pugs to buy a Krampus.

    Building up a set of 29+ wheels for the Pugs is not only expensive, but you don't get the same bike as if you bought a Krampus. Surly really got the front end geo right on the Krampus to keep a light playful feel in the bike even with that big wheel.

    Plus with 2 bikes if one needs maintenance you've always got a spare....
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    if you never ride in unpacked snow, get the Krampus, but it sounds like the Krampus won't replace all the pugs can do and more... it's more likely that you will be limited a bit in the winter, messy (er) months, if you switch.

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    Our standing joke while riding fat bikes this past Winter was "Can Krampus do that?"

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    No !
    Wide tire choice is way to limited, and there's nothing special about the Krampus frame except a bit more tire clearance than most RIGID 29r's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    Pugsley + Rabbit Hole + Knards = best of all worlds.
    Yep!

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