Well, I think if chainstay stiffness were an issue(IDK if it is), it would be on the symmetrical 190mm QR in frames with a small angle between the chainstays and the seat stays. I would think the 190mm QR may have some pretty noticeable torsional flex in the chainstays unless they use a stiff oversized axle with a bigger flange to the dropouts and a very strong QR, or design the frame to have stiffer(heavier) seat and chain stays to start with.
Originally Posted by ultraspontane
The wheel flex is probably more noticeable on a 135mm hub, in a centered wheel, where the spokes are pretty straight going to two rows of spoke holes at the rim without crossing over each other. Asymmetrical wheels shouldn't have this problem with the spokes all inline near the center of the hub flanges. Wider hub wheels are the stiffest.
But, like you said, with big knobby tires at low pressures, who's going to notice the flex anywhere.
I got sick of buying de-rail-yours after 5th wrap around.
She-who-rides-with-me was a stick magnet. Bought an A8, mounted it to my Pugs as a test sled, and didn't want to swap it to her 907. So I bought an A11.
Got me riding the Pugs again. Both 907's and Pugs are offset. Both run the size of tire/wheel we like.
Best of all..both take us into the woods where the air is scented by pines and clean water.
Hmmmm, while typing that^^, I was thinkering...my spare, offset pugs frame would look better with some rabbit holes and 29+ tires, and maybe a de-rail-your...
Ice Cream Truck. Very interesting to go back and read the posts...
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You're turning black metallic.
Yes. And it's very nice to ride too...
Originally Posted by Jayem
I have one on order. It's going to be my singlespeed.
Any singlespeeder taking a close look at the BB area and the stays on the Ice Cream Truck will want one. Nice solid design.
Through axles solve all the squirm problems that using hubs with axles designed for road bikes had.
Suitable dropouts for singlespeed will be available.
The only negative is hubgear incompatibility.
Did I mention I like the colour too...
Edit: I've just cancelled mine. They're coming into the UK at an eye watering price for a non custom bike with standard tubing. I decided that paying 36% more than for a Pug frameset was too much of an early adopter tax.
Last edited by Velobike; 06-12-2014 at 12:27 AM.
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So now the question is will the Moonie survive or is it Pugs + ICT???
Originally Posted by vikb
My guess is yes, the Moonie will continue to have fans. 1st because it will take IGH hubs but also because, though I haven't seen all the details numbers wise, the geometry looks to be quite different too.
Originally Posted by vikb
You know how it goes too, you just can't tell about a bike 'till you actually get on one and ride it. Guessing it will be late Summer before many of us get a chance to do that. Pic's sure look great though!!
Edit: except for Coast Kid... Lucky!
There will be fans no doubt....just wondering if the sales numbers between those two platforms justify keeping both.
Originally Posted by ward
If the ICT has Krampus geo it will tour just fine. The big wheels provide so much stability you don't need "touring geo" on these bikes.
I'm an IGH fan so I appreciate that about the ML, but I haven't drunk enough kool aid to forget we are in the minority.
this is why i'm greatly anticipating delivery of an ICT!
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What's the ETA of the ICT?
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