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    Who wants to upgrade to the Bluto..

    I don't have a fat bike, it's on order. Now I'm contemplating getting a fatty with a Bluto. So those of you who have ridden the fatties, are you thinking about upgrading to the Bluto? If yes or no, why? Most of my riding will be in the winter months with snow on the ground. During spring, summer and fall I will be riding my Camber 29er. However, if the ride is nice, I may ride the fatty in the other seasons. Hence, should I get a fatty with a Bluto?

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    All of my mountain bikes are rigid. I enjoy single track feeling everything on the trail. My 4.6" specialized ground control tires at 8psi feel like a 3 inch travel full suspension bike.

    I vote no

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    I have 3 full winters of fat under my belt. My area gets 200-300 inches of snow and we ride snow bike specific groomed trails. Riding old frozen post holed snow is jarring to the body. My Bluto bike is ordered. I think I will ride it more in the non snow months too.

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    I did!

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    Best thing I ever purchased for my fat bike and I am on number 5. 8 psi in my Ground Controls feel good but 12 psi with a suspension fork is like heaven. Tires do not equal suspension. That being said I will prolly take it off for winter but right now I have a fully blinged out RDO fs collecting dust and I have been an advocate against running my fattie in summer until Bluto came around.

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    My fatbike rides so completely different in the winter, with the snow compressing and the low-pressure that is able to be ran. I'm sure there'd be a benefit to running a suspension fork, but I don't think it's anywhere near what it does in the summer time, where the rigid fatbike really rides like it's rigid. I may eventually upgrade, but no plans this winter. I have a summer-wheelset, so it would make decent sense to get one eventually, probably wait until next spring.
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    I've had my fat out only in summer months (since I got it this year) and I'm on the fence about sus.

    Honestly if I did sus I would get 29+ tires and build it out more like a 9er for the summer for dry months. I couldn't imagine I would want sus in snow, and it would probably be locked most of the time in the winter.

    I feel the my rigid fat is fine and really fun. Your arms get a workout but I already feel like it's cheating with the tires. I couldn't imagine tires and sus.

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    I just put a lefty fork on my fatty. Took it out for the first time yesterday It's the greatest upgrade to a fat bike that can be done. It's like cheating!!! Makes for a very smooth and fun ride!!

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    I picked up a new bike so I could upgrade.
    It doesn't matter what I ride as long as I ride it Rubber Side Down●~●.

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    When the cost goes down and hopefully Fox will come out with their own suspension than I might buy it but only on the front wheel, don't need a full suspension Fat Bike.

    If so then I'll just ride my Santa Cruz Tallboy.

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    I have ridden rigid steel bikes since the 80's, and really enjoy riding in the snow at 3psi! The traction in all situations is addictive, but the lack of rebound control at high speeds in the summer is sketchy for me, Now with Bluto the game has changed! Best addition you could put on your fatty in my opinion, I might go back to rigid in the winter but probably not. I cant wait to ride frozen postholed trails this winter with some studded tires and Bluto. My SS 29er is collecting dust, I will probably sell it and build a 29+ wheelset for the summer.

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    I am staying rigid, mostly sand riding by me, when I want to go quick, I put a let over another bike. Mine is more of my "chill out" or bad weather bike.

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    ordered mine thru lbs $600 out the door and should be here by teusday.. i live in san diego and mostly i ride my fat bike on the trails here sometime on the beach.. hydraulic brakes are a must and so is suspension unless you want to take a beating every time you hit the trails here.. i have a '12 scott spark elite upgraded with mavic ust tubeless rims and tires, reverb dropper post, etc.. but the fat bike is just more fun to ride.. have not ridden my fs for 3 mos. now..

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    I have very little experience with a fat bike. I have a BD Lurch on order.

    My MTB riding is mostly single track and forests. I also like to explore. Since I ride fairly slowly I don't really need suspension.

    By this reasoning I am buying a rigid fat bike. The Lurch isn't upgradable to a Bluto so I guess that isn't even a future option.

    Silly as it may sound, i really love the fork braze-ons for the Salsa Everything type cage so a rigid fork has that extra appeal to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rex615 View Post
    I have very little experience with a fat bike. I have a BD Lurch on order.

    My MTB riding is mostly single track and forests. I also like to explore. Since I ride fairly slowly I don't really need suspension.

    By this reasoning I am buying a rigid fat bike. The Lurch isn't upgradable to a Bluto so I guess that isn't even a future option.

    Silly as it may sound, i really love the fork braze-ons for the Salsa Everything type cage so a rigid fork has that extra appeal to me.
    I thought BD said the Lurch will take a Bluto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    I thought BD said the Lurch will take a Bluto?
    From their website "NOTE: Fits tapered head tube forks. Some Lockout levers may strike downtube if forks are turned too far"

    Basically this means that although the fork will fit fine, when you turn them near 90 degrees, they will hit the downtube.

    During a fall they could break/damage the lockout mechanism or dent the frame. That makes them unusable under real world conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfrbikes View Post
    All of my mountain bikes are rigid. I enjoy single track feeling everything on the trail. My 4.6" specialized ground control tires at 8psi feel like a 3 inch travel full suspension bike.

    I vote no
    i'm with you. rigid nonfat bikes and rigid fatbikes are not equal. rigid fat with 8-10 psi on rough trail is way more cushy. my trails are wicked jagged tire slicing sidewall rock and rigid fat is totally fine/fun.

    keep it lite n simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderzy View Post
    I just put a lefty fork on my fatty. Took it out for the first time yesterday It's the greatest upgrade to a fat bike that can be done. It's like cheating!!! Makes for a very smooth and fun ride!!
    What lefty did you use? Is your head tube tapered?

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    i would get one but tapered steer doesn't work for me
    i think more people suffer because of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    I don't have a fat bike, it's on order. Now I'm contemplating getting a fatty with a Bluto. So those of you who have ridden the fatties, are you thinking about upgrading to the Bluto? If yes or no, why? Most of my riding will be in the winter months with snow on the ground. During spring, summer and fall I will be riding my Camber 29er. However, if the ride is nice, I may ride the fatty in the other seasons. Hence, should I get a fatty with a Bluto?
    I have a fatboy with a Bluto on it and find for the trails and rocky ruts I ride, it is a big improvement, cush does not equal suspension. Coincidentally, my FS bike is also a Camber 29'er. This past week I took my Fatboy with Bluto on some of the more challenging river bottoms and difficult climbs I take on my Camber, fatboy did all of them with equal or better ease, not as fast, but with suspension and ~12psi, you can go anywhere you got the leg to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFX big foot View Post
    i would get one but tapered steer doesn't work for me
    i think more people suffer because of that
    Isn't there an adapter for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFX big foot View Post
    i would get one but tapered steer doesn't work for me
    i think more people suffer because of that
    I have a kona wo which has a straight steerer.. Good thing thought it is 1.5" straight so all i need is the lower adapter to make the bluto fit.. Might want to check your bike manufacturer the size of your steerer..

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderzy View Post
    I just put a lefty fork on my fatty. Took it out for the first time yesterday It's the greatest upgrade to a fat bike that can be done. It's like cheating!!! Makes for a very smooth and fun ride!!
    I agree completely with this! Front suspension is the Holy Grail for fat bikes IMHO. Full suspension on the other hand I'm not so sure about but time will tell.

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    8,000+ miles on fully-rigid fatbikes under my belt (1,400 on a Pugsley, 5,600+ on a 9:zero:7), I am now 205 miles into riding my front-suspended (Rockshox Bluto enabled) Borealis Echo, and honestly I had no idea that I’d be enjoying this trip as immensely as I have been. Truly a joy to have that extra bit of squish up front, as I have been pushing what I thought beforehand to have been the limits of what fatbiking on trails ought have been, and have been making Strava PRs galore in these past three weeks of ownership. Gigantic smile on my face every ride.
    one by nine works just fine but single speed is all ya need
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    Quote Originally Posted by rex615 View Post
    From their website "NOTE: Fits tapered head tube forks. Some Lockout levers may strike downtube if forks are turned too far"

    Basically this means that although the fork will fit fine, when you turn them near 90 degrees, they will hit the downtube.

    During a fall they could break/damage the lockout mechanism or dent the frame. That makes them unusable under real world conditions.
    I wouldn't worry about it. If you are concerned protect the area of the frame,or run a EC lower cap instead of an zero stack headset, that's probably all you need.
    Here's a popular rigid Titaniun frameset 4000.00. Do you think the fork makes contact with the frame?
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    I'm going with a full suspension fatty. The best of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    8,000+ miles on fully-rigid fatbikes under my belt (1,400 on a Pugsley, 5,600+ on a 9:zero:7), I am now 205 miles into riding my front-suspended (Rockshox Bluto enabled) Borealis Echo, and honestly I had no idea that I’d be enjoying this trip as immensely as I have been. Truly a joy to have that extra bit of squish up front, as I have been pushing what I thought beforehand to have been the limits of what fatbiking on trails ought have been, and have been making Strava PRs galore in these past three weeks of ownership. Gigantic smile on my face every ride.
    I will say over and over I had no idea what I was missing as well, I agree completely.

    Of coarse it isn't for everyone and some love fully rigid and my hats off to em. But to say you plain out don't need one because fat tires equal suspension is just plain ignorant. If you are worried about the weight it's not to hard to build a 28# or less Bluto equipped fatty. Of coarse there are all the reviews of people who put a Bluto on and hated it<a*href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php" title="Smiley"><img src="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink048.gif" alt="Smiley" border="0" /></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I will say over and over I had no idea what I was missing as well, I agree completely.

    Of coarse it isn't for everyone and some love fully rigid and my hats off to em. But to say you plain out don't need one because fat tires equal suspension is just plain ignorant. If you are worried about the weight it's not to hard to build a 28# or less Bluto equipped fatty. Of coarse there are all the reviews of people who put a Bluto on and hated it<a*href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php" title="Smiley"><img src="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink048.gif" alt="Smiley" border="0" /></a>
    For me, the experience is like a lightweight XC racing bike but with extra traction where you hadn’t expected it. Rear triangle section is like rigid steel girders with no flex whatsoever. Usual steep-ass cardioclimbs are actually hurting my legs whereas before my cardio ran out– zero flex up steep climbs, really works your legs to the limit like a really light XC race bike, no nonsense. Just for sh¡ts and giggles I am going to race it for the last CCCX CX race in a couple of weekends. I managed to clinch the overall points championship in 2013 on my On-One Inbred 29er (with a Mendon-approved 29er lefty fork) but this time around it will be another 4 pounds of weight. Once again, just for sh¡ts and giggles. Bluto kicks ass. Beyond my expectations of what fatbiking could ever be like (did I mention the 1,410 miles of fully rigid Pugsley miles in addition to the 5,600+ miles of fully rigid 9:zero:7 miles… all on rough/rocky/steep/technical/f’ed-up/off-camber trails???).

    Uhh… of course I am referring to the Bluto-equipped Borealis Echo, your experiences on “lesser” frames my produce different results.
    one by nine works just fine but single speed is all ya need
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    I know it's coming, but full carbon squish(120 rear)and a bluto w/a charger and 35 stansions.
    With my wild dragon 90's and soon to be carbon 50's 29+

    My SB66c will be sold when this comes to pass

    I lie...I love that bike!

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    This whole fat bike suspension or no suspension thing reminds me about when the first Rockshox/Manatu's came out for mtb's...there was a big group of riders that said the steel frames and 2.1 inch tires were all the suspension one needed...they had a ride on a bike with suspension and they had to have it....know your past or you are doomed to repeat it.
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    Different strokes for different folks....

    arguing if you *need* suspension or not really makes no sense, everyone rides different stuff, different speeds etc, some people can handle rigid for 100+ miles....others cannot...

    Front squish has let me go faster, further, feeling better, and safer,so I don't mind the extra weight or maintenance.

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    I am getting a fat bike soon for the winter. Can anyone advise on whether there are any issues with using the Bluto (or any suspension really) in the winter? I really have no idea how the mechanics of these things work so perhaps its a stupid question. I just don't want to buy one and then trash it in the harsh winters we get.

    edit: just to clarify it will be used on groomed cross-country skiing and snowmobile trails. The only contact with road salt/sand would be while on the back of the car on the way to the trails.

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    Wish they made a 1 1/8" straight steer tube version. Does anyone know if they have plans too? Maybe someone else will jump on board and give us a full range of "use-ability". Lots of great fat bikes/riders out there that could utilize one. Kind of forced to buy a new bike to experience it... not that I won't enjoy a new bike, but "tapered only" cut's all but the new stuff out.

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    Groomed XC...me personally, I roll full rigid. As soon as the snow fall here, I will be taking my bluto off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    Different strokes for different folks....

    arguing if you *need* suspension or not really makes no sense, everyone rides different stuff, different speeds etc, .
    I agree completely!! What I don't agree on is when people say that fat tires alone equal suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I agree completely!! What I don't agree on is when people say that fat tires alone equal suspension.

    No kidding!
    If that were true, all our cars would not have suspension either...look at how fat the tires are haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ward View Post
    Wish they made a 1 1/8" straight steer tube version. Does anyone know if they have plans too? Maybe someone else will jump on board and give us a full range of "use-ability". Lots of great fat bikes/riders out there that could utilize one. Kind of forced to buy a new bike to experience it... not that I won't enjoy a new bike, but "tapered only" cut's all but the new stuff out.
    you can go with a lefty biuld ...see this thread...

    Lefty build for dummies...



    or this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ward View Post
    Wish they made a 1 1/8" straight steer tube version. Does anyone know if they have plans too? Maybe someone else will jump on board and give us a full range of "use-ability". Lots of great fat bikes/riders out there that could utilize one. Kind of forced to buy a new bike to experience it... not that I won't enjoy a new bike, but "tapered only" cut's all but the new stuff out.
    I installed a 1 ½ bluto on my 1 1/8 frame with a internal bearing. There is a external bearing that Chirs King a couple others make that will allow you to install a taper fork as long as you have an internal 1 1/8 (44mm) bearing meaning the old bearings are up in the head tube.
    I highly recommend the Bluto only have about 75 miles on it but so far its awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exp18 View Post
    I installed a 1 ½ bluto on my 1 1/8 frame with a internal bearing. There is a external bearing that Chirs King a couple others make that will allow you to install a taper fork as long as you have an internal 1 1/8 (44mm) bearing meaning the old bearings are up in the head tube.
    I highly recommend the Bluto only have about 75 miles on it but so far its awesome.
    What frame did you do this to? Can you post a pic of this? Thanks!

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    Re: Who wants to upgrade to the Bluto..

    Quote Originally Posted by exp18 View Post
    I installed a 1 ½ bluto on my 1 1/8 frame with a internal bearing. There is a external bearing that Chirs King a couple others make that will allow you to install a taper fork as long as you have an internal 1 1/8 (44mm) bearing meaning the old bearings are up in the head tube.
    I highly recommend the Bluto only have about 75 miles on it but so far its awesome.
    I believe the frame has to have a large enough head tube to fit either a straight or tapered fork. In this case, usually all that is required is a new lower headset cup that has a larger opening than the one that used to hold a 1 1/8 straight steerer. I have never seen where a tapered steerer can fit in a head tube that was made solely to accommodate a straight 1 1/8 steerer tube.

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    Has to be at least a 44mm head tube.

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    Who wants to upgrade to the Bluto..

    You know after several years with the Mav SC32 on non suspension corrected frames I'm gonna hold. My moonlander just rocks and feels great. I couldn't imagine messing with the front end. Maybe the next frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    I wouldn't worry about it. If you are concerned protect the area of the frame,or run a EC lower cap instead of an zero stack headset, that's probably all you need.
    That "Life hack" might actually work.

    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    Here's a popular rigid Titaniun frameset 4000.00. Do you think the fork makes contact with the frame?
    True enough, but I don't think that design would cause as much damage in a crash, because the pressure isn't concentrated at one point ans it has less leverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    What frame did you do this to? Can you post a pic of this? Thanks!
    This is some pictures of the fork I butchered and make a fatty fork worked really well until it snapped the crown as you can see. But you can see the frame its an old 2005 Jamis Dakar frame 44mm head tube I will send a couple of pictures when I get home. The external bearing and Bluto fork was easy to install and comparing the two I would say the Bluto work better, but that maybe because I have a $ 1000 bucks into it with the fork, external bearing and the hub.

    The second picture is of the fork after i hit a ditch really hard had couple thousand miles on it.
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    Hey Thanks for posting, I remember your thread from awhile back now. So yes it has to at least a 44mm headtube. Hows the rear end of your Jamis holding up?

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    The rear triangle has been holding up good, when I broke the crown was one of those oh **** moments when you know you hit that a little hard. So I was disappointed with the fork, but having a FS fatty had been fun. Glad they had the Bluto out so I pick one up like the next day and installed it, as I said I really like it so far.
    The one I got has a remote lock out, it was just what the LBS had so I got it, but after riding with it I would differently recommend it.

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    I put the same one on my Mukluk and love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goobernaculum View Post
    Can anyone advise on whether there are any issues with using the Bluto (or any suspension really) in the winter?
    Well, they tested that fork here all last winter.
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    A picture of my Chris King external bearing that makes it possible to use a bluto tapered fork in a 44mm head tube
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    Since my fatboy came in, I've hardly ridden the full suspension bike. It's a bit harsher though and the carbon fork will someday fail due to riding rough trails, then I will consider the Bluto or whatever comes along that is better.

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    Does someone have a diagram of the Bluto the provides all of the crown dimensions? That would help several of us out who are trying to determine whether a Bluto will fit our frame. Then one could produce a 3D printing the crown along with a 1.5 bottom cup to use as a mock build before buying.

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    Think so

    Got my Specialized Fatboy a few weeks ago. Love the bike. Riding some very difficult trails in the Sierra foothills, where historically there were places where traction was the limiting factor. Now, riding up sections I've never been able to climb before. Just sit and pedal, without a lot of gymnastics and explosive effort.

    But, one thing I've found is it can still be difficult to get the front tire up and over a big rock when climbing, where suspension made it easier. Would be nice to take a little shock out when descending, too. Thinking the Bluto would help.

    If I can figure out the logistics, like rebuilding the front wheel with a thru axle, will probably do it.
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    The Salsa 150mm hub is a direct replacement, you can use the same spokes (even though I replaced mine). I've built a few wheels before, but I'm far from an expert, this build went very easily, IMO the fat rims are easier to build than the narrower MTB rims. It really is as simple as recreating the same pattern of crossing with the spokes and balancing the tension (I'm a musician so I just "tuned" the spokes to the same tone as my other wheel, balanced that out across the wheel, then tweaked up and down a 1/4 turn to get to the rim straight). On other wheels I've built that last step was a lot more tedious than it was on the fat rim.

    I have followed lengthy processes to build wheels in the past and I'm sure they are more technically accurate, but just mimicking an existing wheel was so much easier than figuring out lead and lag spokes etc.

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    I used the fork as my building jig (I don't even own one). I don't know about rotor size, I have a 180 on my bike.

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    thanks

    Thanks, have built many road wheels. Hope my Park wheel building jig can handle a hub that wide.

    So, just need the hub and fork? Good deal.


    Bluto specs say it accepts brake rotors up to 200 mm. Mine are 203. is that a de minimus difference, or is 200 a hard cutoff?

    Thanks.

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    The Salsa 150mm hub is a direct replacement, you can use the same spokes (even though I replaced mine). I've built a few wheels before, but I'm far from an expert, this build went very easily, IMO the fat rims are easier to build than the narrower MTB rims. It really is as simple as recreating the same pattern of crossing with the spokes and balancing the tension (I'm a musician so I just "tuned" the spokes to the same tone as my other wheel, balanced that out across the wheel, then tweaked up and down a 1/4 turn to get to the rim straight). On other wheels I've built that last step was a lot more tedious than it was on the fat rim.

    I have followed lengthy processes to build wheels in the past and I'm sure they are more technically accurate, but just mimicking an existing wheel was so much easier than figuring out lead and lag spokes etc.
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    weird out of order thing there - but given my lack of experience with wheel building, I would check spoke length with someone who knows what they're doing to be sure.

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    Just ordered the 80 mm Bluto and Salsa hub. If the spokes don't work, will get some others. Probably won't be able to tell until it's all laced up and tensioning, but that's ok.

    Will let you know how it goes. Thanks.


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    weird out of order thing there - but given my lack of experience with wheel building, I would check spoke length with someone who knows what they're doing to be sure.
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    Got the Bluto, had another wheel built with the 150 mm Salsa hub and a Clown Shoe. Last night, all ready to put it togehter and find the crown race on the Specialized carbon Fatboy fork seems to be glued on, as there is a bead of what looks like epoxy around the upper rim of the race. So, back off and order a headset, as I can't find just the race for the 1.5" FSA tapered headset. Should have it together Friday evening to ride Saturday morning.
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    I ordered a Lurch, it was the frame and specs I wanted, but I will probably get a Bluto at some point, and since 2mm is not much ...

    Is there any sort of spacer that will work on this frame and fork, perhaps a different bearing and race?

    Can the lever be shaved/modified somehow for clearance?

    I'm not scared of a little frame interference, the twin crown Loop on my tandem is a huge clearance issue, as are all twin crown DH forks, so I wonder if we're making it out to be a bigger deal than it really is??

    And I never crash

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    Yeah, the specialized carbon fork has the crown race integrated into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    so I wonder if we're making it out to be a bigger deal than it really is??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Yeah, the specialized carbon fork has the crown race integrated into it.
    hey jisch.. just ordered my bluto 80mm.. should be here tomorrow.. i ordered the crown race (upon reading some other threads), salsa hub and bluto from universal cycles.. are you positive i can reuse my existing spokes? anything else i need to make the bluto work on my fatboy? planning to install the fork myself.. seems pretty straight.. any advice though? hopefully my brakes should be long enough.. i have the basic fatboy.. which came with the tektro brakes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post

    I'm not scared of a little frame interference, the twin crown Loop on my tandem is a huge clearance issue, as are all twin crown DH forks, so I wonder if we're making it out to be a bigger deal than it really is??

    And I never crash
    I just run across the Acros Blocklock headset that's been out for a few years but I'd never heard of it. I have not experience with it (yet) - BLOCKLOCK - ACROS

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    Quote Originally Posted by genefruit View Post
    I just run across the Acros Blocklock headset that's been out for a few years but I'd never heard of it. I have not experience with it (yet) - BLOCKLOCK - ACROS
    I didn't know this option existed. I have seen steering locks like are used on motorcycles, implemented on bicycles. usually some sort of wide tab attached to the frame or the fork. This is much more elegant.

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    Yes, it's a good idea, and it's only $60 for the upper bearing and cup set, cheap insurance.

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    thanks genefruit, just posted you comment over on the Lurch Lounge for those wanting to Bluto their Lurch.

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    I am pretty sure you can reuse spikes, but you should really check a spoke calculator to be sure. I had to install a longer front brake hose. Use a pvc pipe to tap the crown race into place. Other than that, I had no issues.

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    Well, got my bluto 80mm.. Did a test fit looks awesome.. Still need to cut the fork.. Now waiting for my rims to be done.. Hopefully tomorrow afternoon.. Muuuuust sleeep... Sigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8or View Post
    Well, got my bluto 80mm.. Did a test fit looks awesome.. Still need to cut the fork.. Now waiting for my rims to be done.. Hopefully tomorrow afternoon.. Muuuuust sleeep... Sigh

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    awesome man...post some pics when you get it back. I would like to hear your hub setup also. Im pondering ordering the bluto, and maybe some nexties.

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    rode bluto today on the trails.. it was awesome.. salsa hub and reused the same spokes and nipples.. pics on other fatboy bluto thread..

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    Someone had mentioned their 80 mm Bluto was using all the travel unless the preload pressure was so high there was no sag. I was noticing this, too.

    I had been running my rebound damping about half way. I changed it to full "rabbit" (little symbol on fork leg), and without changing anything else, it uses about 3/4" less travel on the same ride. I think before the rebound was too slow and the compressions were stacking up.
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