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    Vee Tire Apache Fattyslick 26x4.5

    This looks like it would be fun for beach or urban riding. It's a 2-ply tire that is supposed to weigh about 1000 grams.

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    That looks like a tube. Should be interesting.

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    Where do the studs go?
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    Slick + fat + rain = fall down go boom
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff_g View Post
    slick + fat + rain = fall down go boom
    ha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_G View Post
    Slick + fat + rain = fall down go boom
    But it'll be a blast in the right conditions.
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    Looks flexy

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    Our used bike collective in Anchorage has about 10 pairs of endomorphs for sale. There just is no demand in southcentral Alaska for a tire like that. Maybe in Southbeach or San Diego.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Co-opski View Post
    Our used bike collective in Anchorage has about 10 pairs of endomorphs for sale. There just is no demand in southcentral Alaska for a tire like that. Maybe in Southbeach or San Diego.
    I'd never buy an endomorph, but I could see using these in Anchorage for summer commuting--just for fun.
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    I would love to try that on the paved path to the beach... Make all the roadies crazy.
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    I've got a set of 3.5 Speedsters on the stock 80 mm rims that came on my Salsa. Used then twice and they've sat since then. Steers so weird and doesn't seem even as fast as the 4.0 JJ's I normally run. Maybe the larger tire will work better on 80 and up rims. Will try the Speedsters on my Hugo's on the next tire change but if that doesn't work the Speedsters are gone. Rather use those hubs for a 27.5+ or 29+ set of wheels anyway!
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    Y'all know that this tire was specifically designed for our resident mad scientist in Norway? You know he's going to take that tire and beat all the roadies in a metric century race with 100mm carbon rims no less!

    Just you watch.
    Trust me, I have a beard and gray hair.

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    I'd love to see this tire with an old school gumwall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars_D View Post
    I'd never buy an endomorph, but I could see using these in Anchorage for summer commuting--just for fun.
    Post up you impressions when you get some. Many here would not buy this tire.
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    Hey, a fat bike tire without the knobs ought to be much quieter, perhaps almost silent.

    Might be just the thing to sneak up on roadies who think they're fast and then blow by them. Since I hadn't ridden my fat bike in a couple weeks, I rode it on the club ride last night and everyone kept pulling over because they thought there was a car breathing down their neck, due to rather loud road whine from the knobs on the tires.

    Vee did a couple of different colors in the Mission Command line last fall. I'd love to see these in the hot pink they had back then.
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    It is supposed to be tubeless ready and the recommended pressure range is 20-40psi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars_D View Post
    It is supposed to be tubeless ready and the recommended pressure range is 20-40psi.
    I'm thinking 40PSI tubeless will blow up most carbon rims, which if I remember right a couple of people on this board have already done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Balogh View Post
    I'm thinking 40PSI tubeless will blow up most carbon rims, which if I remember right a couple of people on this board have already done.
    Agreed, and 40psi is a tire this big is absurd.

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    It'd be a fast beach tire though no climbing dunes. On our beach front MUP I've had a heck of a problem with blackberry thorns penetrating the shaved BFLs and lodging in the Vee Tire Co. Speedsters. It'd be interesting to see the casing thickness. Regarding tire pressure, Speedsters rated for 36 psi, they run fine at 25-28 psi. At 30 mph downhill the dynamic handling of my Minn 3.0 is more like a motorcycle in that there's a lot of rotating mass down there. It'll hold a line like a freight train, you'd just better be sure that's the line you want. Once I got used to that...no big deal.

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    Does anyone know who is selling these or even who has info on them. When i google for it the only things i find is this thread. any help would be great. I am looking at these for an urban commuter set of wheels.

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    they are slated for the 2017 catalogue...

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    been seeing this tire on some FB bikes but looks like Asia postings.

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    seen the skin wall black floyds?

    due soon in the UK

    so you must have them in the US already ?

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    must have 4.5 slicks!

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    Tim at Vee Tire informed me that these tires will be available in November...

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    if you go to vee tire's facebook page, they have a big discount going on for tires. https://www.facebook.com/veetireco/ . apache fatty slicks OTW!

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    Vee Tire Apache Fattyslick 26x4.5-img_20161103_160729.jpg

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    Out to ride

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    I could have used a set of these when I slid out my Hodag in the skate park yesterday.

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    perfect for riding in streets to keep on second wheelet, itd turn a lot of heads
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    Has anyone spotted these for sale in the UK yet?

    Do you get any change from paying with a kidney?

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    Vee Tire Apache Fattyslick 26x4.5-15665545_10154801950082856_5689213941594631498_n.jpgDeveloped for this bike:

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    Cool!

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    Wonder how they would go in sand? I think the tread must pretty much pointless as long as your pressure is right in loose sand and should be rockets on hard wet sand?

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    I'm thinking drifting/skidding contests. Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldskipper View Post
    Y'all know that this tire was specifically designed for our resident mad scientist in Norway? You know he's going to take that tire and beat all the roadies in a metric century race with 100mm carbon rims no less!

    Just you watch.
    Roads are finally at least semi dry after being covered in salty brine since last fall. It was time to mount the Fattyslicks on carbon 100mm rims and do some hillclimbing at a popular Strava spot. Mounted them tubeless w/o sealant, and both held decent pressure overnight. Pumped them to 20psi before the ride. The front held up fine w/o sealant, but the rear started leaking, so was down to a mushy 6psi after a short while. Pumped up to 20psi with the Lezyne mini pump, and the bike was flying again, but it dropped to 6psi when I hit the climb.
    Still moves pretty well at that pressure, but of course nothing like they do at 20.
    Will add some sealant and that will seal them right up. Sidewalls were not leaking, all the air escaped at the bead, so takes very little sealant to make them aok. Probably less than half a Stan's cup, so approx. 1oz / 30ml.
    Weight was 1205 and 1249g respectively, so the bike gained a massive 2lbs vs the shaved Kenda Juggernauts that I ran last summer, but it is still in the 19lb range, so still acceptable.

    Up tha hill at 17psi front and mushy 6psi rear:


    Down the hill at 17psi front and some 10psi rear:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZvdQYb2pp4

    Will seal 'em up and do lots more testing at a solid 20-22psi, roll tests vs. road bikes, etc.
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    wait , they are making a 4.9 already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    wait , they are making a 4.9 already?
    Yep, it is 4.9 on a 100mm rim

    https://fat-bike.com/2016/10/vee-tir...-slick-ridden/

    https://fat-bike.com/2016/12/vee-tir...-the-kbs-take/

    267mm bead to bead. Typical 4.8s like Bud/Lou are 260mm

    4.5 is way understated (like 5.05'' is on the 5.2'' 2XLs)

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    Fits my large carbon fatboy with no issues. Real fun ride at 30psi!

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    The only place I saw these in stock (not currently) for a while in the UK were NextDayTyres...

    At £107 each!!!11!!1!

    Lets just say I'm glad I bought one of the last sets of FatNotFat 29er wheels for road duty on my Wazoo.

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    Does anyone know if these tires fit on a 2016 Norco Bigfoot 6.3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by

    Up tha hill at 17psi front and mushy 6psi rear:
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnUzt95Dar8[/video]

    Down the hill at 17psi front and some 10psi rear:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZvdQYb2pp4

    Will seal 'em up and do lots more testing at a solid 20-22psi, roll tests vs. road bikes, etc.
    Espen you just dropped them Rapha Boys . lol

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    Hmm... are these available in the US? I would love to get a few sets...

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    Easy to get in uk from the EU, mine from bike shop in Germany on eBay £80 ea

    Fitted to 80mm mulefut tubeless with minimal sealant and no air loss

    BUT...... as a previous poster remarked, the pressure range is insane 20-40 psi

    Anything less than 20 and self steer is atrocious

    I naively went for mid range of mfr spec at 30psi and within days the front blows of the rim ten mins before a long ride in massive explosion that destroyed the tyre bead and could have killed me on the road.

    Before that they were a blast to ride, fast and light and noticeable flywheel effect giving super acceleration until the bike runs of gears, grip amazing but (another but) nerve wracking in case of wet leaves on tarmac when all control is lost, no aqua planing on standing water tho’.

    Blowing-off the rim however has killed my trust in these expensive tyres and Vee Tire co. WTF are they thinking of with these pressures on a bike wheel of this size, they get hot sitting in the sun even in winter and if the pressures are already on the edge of rim integrity a slight rise in pressure from radiant heat could be a tyre (or person) killer.

    Maybe the way to go with these tyres is with inner tubes but that defeats the point of the lowish weight and rolling resistance.....

    Anyways, I’m down nearly £100 on the grandiosity and wondering where to go next...

    Incidentally, I had a Vee Tire bulldozer blow off a rim while seating but that was just over the 20psi max so I guess I have to take responsibility for that BUT the replacement bulldozer had such a wobble from a sidewall manufacturing defect that had to go back to the supplier the next day.

    Maybe Schwalbe Jumbo Jims are the answer to all this hassle and headache......

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    Fitted to 80mm mulefut tubeless with minimal sealant and no air loss

    BUT...... as a previous poster remarked, the pressure range is insane 20-40 psi

    Anything less than 20 and self steer is atrocious

    I naively went for mid range of mfr spec at 30psi and within days the front blows of the rim ten mins before a long ride in massive explosion that destroyed the tyre bead and could have killed me on the road.

    Before that they were a blast to ride, fast and light and noticeable flywheel effect giving super acceleration until the bike runs of gears, grip amazing but (another but) nerve wracking in case of wet leaves on tarmac when all control is lost, no aqua planing on standing water tho’.

    Blowing-off the rim however has killed my trust in these expensive tyres and Vee Tire co. WTF are they thinking of with these pressures on a bike wheel of this size, they get hot sitting in the sun even in winter and if the pressures are already on the edge of rim integrity a slight rise in pressure from radiant heat could be a tyre (or person) killer.

    Maybe the way to go with these tyres is with inner tubes but that defeats the point of the lowish weight and rolling resistance.....

    Anyways, I’m down nearly £100 on the grandiosity and wondering where to go next...

    Incidentally, I had a Vee Tire bulldozer blow off a rim while seating but that was just over the 20psi max so I guess I have to take responsibility for that BUT the replacement bulldozer had such a wobble from a sidewall manufacturing defect that had to go back to the supplier the next day.

    Maybe Schwalbe Jumbo Jims are the answer to all this hassle and headache......

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighwayFat View Post
    ... the front blows of the rim ten mins before a long ride in massive explosion that destroyed the tyre bead...

    Blowing-off the rim however has killed my trust in these expensive tyres
    do you have any pics of this? did you try and get a tire warrantied?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighwayFat View Post
    ...the pressure range is insane 20-40 psi
    Agreed!


    Quote Originally Posted by HighwayFat View Post
    ...I naively went for mid range of mfr spec at 30psi and within days the front blows of the rim ten mins before a long ride in massive explosion that destroyed the tyre bead
    This seems to be a pattern with Vee. I have blown a 3.5 x 26 and two 2.8 x 29 Vee Speedsters off the rim due to ruptured kevlar beads while operating on pavement near manufacturer max pressure.

    Vee replaced all of the tires, no questions asked with the 'new improved' versions and they have been running since with no issues although, I am now running them at least 5psi below maximum recommended pressure.

    Word on the street is that the orignial Apache Fatty Slick has the same issue but they have supposedly addressed that in the new 2018 version.

    My new rule of thumb is: For the kevlar bead to live a long and happy life, never inflate a Vee tire beyond 2/3 of it's rated maximum pressure.

    If you contact Vee at:
    https://www.veetireco.com/contact-us/
    They will respond via email requesting photos of the damaged bead, date code (round dotted circles on the sidewall), sales receipt and rim specs. They will review your claim and if it all looks legit, you will receive new replacement tires free of charge.


    Quote Originally Posted by HighwayFat View Post
    Maybe Schwalbe Jumbo Jims are the answer to all this hassle and headache......
    Running JJ5's @ 20psi on pavement are pretty fast out of the gate and will get even faster as center knobs wear down making for a fast pavement/sand slick.
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    I ditched my snowshoes for Origin8 Supercell Wire Bead Fat Bike Tires, 26 x 4.0", Black/Black last year...i only drive streets so I didn't need them that bad...slicks definitely are quieter..roll faster ...nice and smooth all around ...originally i missed the extra width but now i don't even notice

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    Moab Slickrock trail!!!
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    2018 Vee kevlar beads

    Quote Originally Posted by HighwayFat View Post
    ...Blowing-off the rim however has killed my trust in these expensive tyres and Vee Tire co. WTF are they thinking of with these pressures on a bike wheel of this size...
    I spoke with the Vee Tire support person that is facilitating replacement of my Speedsters for the second time. He informed me that the 2018 Apache Fatty Slick and Speedster have an improved kevlar bead that will allow them to run reliably at rated pressures.
    The new Fatty Slicks are currently shipping and the Speedsters are expected to be available mid May 2018.

    Now the challenge is finding a 100mm rim that will work reliably at tire pressures associated with the Fatty Slick.
    Carbon rims span the gamut from a 96mm 500g Hed B.F.D. with a maximum pressure rating of 14psi to a
    95mm 750g Nextie rim (800g setup tubeless) with a maximum pressure rating of 30psi.
    I'm seeing a pattern here...more mass = stronger rim.

    A 99mm 960g Clown Shoe set up tubeless pimped with a bling strip, Tesa tape (for reinforcement) and a FattyStripper (total 1050g) can easily handle 40psi which is looking quite attractive considering that there are complete Clown Shoe wheelsets available on the trader forums for less than the price of one carbon rim.
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