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    I'm not totally sure which tread is the Bulldozer yet? Every site shows different even the Vee site. I guess I should get down to my LBS and pick mine up.

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    pick some up for me too bOb.....

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    Vee Rubber

    Fatbikes.com can get most of the tires if you email them. Or lbs that is a QBP dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    pick some up for me too bOb.....
    No problemo but I get the 2 lightest ones

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    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bdundee again."

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    they have a few tires on sale at incycle site, but a lot of their tires seem priced like most others, maybe slightly cheaper.

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    Thanks guys that helps.

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    Can order through as aebike
    http://www.aebike.com/Vee-Rubber-Bul...k_p_75702.html
    QBP does not have a pic of the Bulldozer
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Can order through as aebike
    Vee Rubber Bulldozer Fat Bike Tire: 26" x 4.7" 120tpi Folding Bead Silica Compound Black - AEBike.com
    QBP does not have a pic of the Bulldozer
    I just ordered 2. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    So we are not even totally sure what they look like?
    Looks like the Snowshoe everyone is showing
    Bulldozer | VEE Tire Co.

    Looks like the Bulldozer other people show.
    Snowshoe XL | VEE Tire Co.

    And the other link above that someone else posted shows the same as vee and not the rest of the world. What the heck gives, I just need to go pick em up tomorrow.
    Guess I will be surprised. Post a pic of yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Can order through as aebike
    Vee Rubber Bulldozer Fat Bike Tire: 26" x 4.7" 120tpi Folding Bead Silica Compound Black - AEBike.com
    QBP does not have a pic of the Bulldozer
    So we are not even totally sure what they look like?
    Looks like the Snowshoe everyone is showing
    Bulldozer | VEE Tire Co.

    Looks like the Bulldozer other people show.
    Snowshoe XL | VEE Tire Co.

    And the other link above that someone else posted shows the same as vee and not the rest of the world. What the heck gives, I just need to go pick em up tomorrow.

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    Patiently awaiting delivery....

    Should be in Tuesday

    Amazon.com: VEE Rubber 26x4.25 H-Billie: Sports & Outdoors

    90 bucks via Amazon, sold by XTreme B&S

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    Can't wait to hear some reviews.
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    1347g and 1395g mounted up tubeless very well and are a lot quieter and seem to roll better on pavement than my Ground Controls but are definitely a little smaller as well. Outside knobs are at about 111mm @15psi set up tubeless.

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    And the money shot!!
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    80mm rims? I can't wait.
    It doesn't matter what I ride as long as I ride it Rubber Side Down●~●.

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    That's a nice bike
    So 111 / what are the spec. GC. I know I should know that

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    80mm rims? I can't wait.
    90mm rims.
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    That's a nice bike
    So 111 / what are the spec. GC. I know I should know that
    My GC where about 114mm on 90's between knob to knob and thanks!!

    I mainly picked these up due to my GC's wearing fairly fast on my commute to the the trail head (11 miles one way) plus the controls aren't that efficient on the road. These definitely roll better and feel more controlled leaning it over on gravel than the GC's. One thing that was a little weird and maybe they will get better is cornering on road surfaces, it was almost like it quickens the steering. It could be a touch of self steer but not sure yet I will play with the pressures but either way I will get accustomed to it and after a few days I prolly won't even notice it. I think the GC's just really handled excellent in road conditions almost as good as a Bud, not really what a fattie is designed for but I need to get to the trail somehow.

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    Are there directional arrows on that tire? The chevron pattern looks right, but shouldn't those big ramps point forward for less rolling resistance and the square side of the center knobs point to the back for more braking grip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    80mm rims? I can't wait.
    Quote Originally Posted by dudeist View Post
    Are there directional arrows on that tire? The chevron pattern looks right, but shouldn't those big ramps point forward for less rolling resistance and the square side of the center knobs point to the back for more braking grip?
    Yes there is and according to the arrow it's the way it is supposed to be, kinda why I posted that pic to get peoples thoughts on it. Maybe Shiggy will chime in.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudeist View Post
    Are there directional arrows on that tire? The chevron pattern looks right, but shouldn't those big ramps point forward for less rolling resistance and the square side of the center knobs point to the back for more braking grip?
    Agree, the ramps seem backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    90mm rims.


    My GC where about 114mm on 90's between knob to knob and thanks!!

    I mainly picked these up due to my GC's wearing fairly fast on my commute to the the trail head (11 miles one way) plus the controls aren't that efficient on the road. These definitely roll better and feel more controlled leaning it over on gravel than the GC's. One thing that was a little weird and maybe they will get better is cornering on road surfaces, it was almost like it quickens the steering. It could be a touch of self steer but not sure yet I will play with the pressures but either way I will get accustomed to it and after a few days I prolly won't even notice it. I think the GC's just really handled excellent in road conditions almost as good as a Bud, not really what a fattie is designed for but I need to get to the trail somehow.
    These sound like they might be a great option for me as well. I ride a lot on roads/crushed limestone and I'm looking for something with a bit less resistance then the GC's. I would love to get your thoughts on them with even more time with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    I have yet to see any new tire delivered anywhere close to the promise date. Vee Rubber claimed a 6 week lead time from mold approval to shipping for the Floater. Took more than 6 months.
    Wow how can companies work like that?

    What do you think Shiggy should I reverse the direction of the front tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    That's what they told me 30 days ago. Ahh life in the fat world.
    I have yet to see any new tire delivered anywhere close to the promise date. Vee Rubber claimed a 6 week lead time from mold approval to shipping for the Floater. Took more than 6 months.
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    Re: Vee Rubber

    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Wow how can companies work like that?

    What do you think Shiggy should I reverse the direction of the front tire?
    That is the way EVERY tire company seems to operate.

    I rarely use reversed directions f/r. The replies to this thread have become so jumbled I do not know what tire you mean. In any case, try it both ways and see what works better for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post

    I rarely use reversed directions f/r. The replies to this thread have become so jumbled I do not know what tire you mean. In any case, try it both ways and see what works better for you.
    This is mounted the direction the arrow shows, the chevrons seem correct but the ramps are backwards?
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    Re: Vee Rubber

    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    This is mounted the direction the arrow shows, the chevrons seem correct but the ramps are backwards?
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    There is more than the ramps that look odd to me. A conflicting tread design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    There is more than the ramps that look odd to me. A conflicting tread design.
    Care to elaborate? Would be interested in learning something about tread design

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    My direction arrow on my H-billie seemed backwards as well compared to the ramps of the knobs. So I mounted it in the direction of the ramps. Seems to be quite and it bites really well.
    You know with the Billie mounted on my 60mm rim the tire's bite changes when I really lean it over as well, almost like self steer as well, but I really have to lean it over to get it to grab like that (like a few inches from pedal strike)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ionofchios View Post
    Care to elaborate? Would be interested in learning something about tread design
    It would be a book. The transition knobs match the ramps.
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    I'm wondering about the bulldozer primarily for snow use. I think the size will work on my Norco Bigfoot if it's slightly smaller than the ground control, and the price is reasonable. I'm hoping the strange design elements don't mean much in soft snow. As long as they have more grip and float than the Mission, and weigh less than a boat anchor, they should be a big improvement.
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    Any word when the studded version of the Snowshoe will be available?

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    Vee Rubber

    I am really hoping for a studded vee tire. The price to convert say a nate is way to much money. The dillenger needs a competitor. It would be awesome if nokian jumped in. There studded vehicle tires have saved my life and families more than once.

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    The new Billie is in, and isn't appreciably larger than the Nate or the Mission it replaces.
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    I tend to agree with the Skipper that the arrow indicates directional travel counter to the way the tire 'ramps up'
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    So I mounted the tire 'backwards'.
    I did a quick ride around the block at 15 PSI to seat everything, and started dropping the PSI. I got to 11 before any noticable 'self-steer' started. Even then, the Billie has it hands down over the Mission it replaces, and doesn't attempt to drag the bars out of your hands while riding off camber.
    I also like the way the new Billie fills the gap in the fork, and appears more aggressive than the Mission.
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    Now all I need is a little time to give it a proper test run.

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    According to the company last winter, there is supposed to be a studded V tire this winter. Time will tell...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boude View Post
    Weight in my shop this day :
    > BULLDOZER 26x4,70 120TPI = 1299grs
    > SNOWSHOE XL 26x4,80 120TPI = 1534grs


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    These pics a reminder who's who. Thanks to boude. I e-mailed AEBike.com and they said they just used pictures that Vee sent. Good price discount there. I still think the Bulldozer will work for me- shallow, ramped knobs good for front but taller side knobs for cornering. I think the ramps should point forward on the front for less resistance rolling forward and more braking grip. On the rear maybe forward traction is more important than brake grip. I don't think the "chevron" direction is as important, but that's just my intuition. On the wait list for studded snowshoes- they should be a health insurance premium deduction.

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    Quality company that can't even get the tires right on their own website!!

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    did the h-billie replace the original snowshoe? it looks the same as the snowshoe on the front of my bike. probably swap it to the rear and put an XL on the front this winter.

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    So is Bulldozer going to fit a Pugsley when mounted on a Marge rim (Currently Large Marge XC)?

    I would like a little more volume for winter without needing to buy a new bike.

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    I think so Kidd, I think they are using the same carcass and just changed the tread pattern some. (I think it's even using the silicon compound as well).

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    Ah never mind,brain fart

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBBaron View Post
    So is Bulldozer going to fit a Pugsley when mounted on a Marge rim (Currently Large Marge XC)?

    I would like a little more volume for winter without needing to buy a new bike.

    Craig
    Don't know for sure but I did try a Ground Control on my wifes Pugs (back) on RD's and no go. The bulldozers are a few mm narrower plus on 65's, maybe? That's all I got good luck!!

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    As the the old snowshoe, should have finished the sentence.

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    Re: Vee Rubber

    Quote Originally Posted by switchie View Post
    The new Billie is in, and isn't appreciably larger than the Nate or the Mission it replaces.
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    I tend to agree with the Skipper that the arrow indicates directional travel counter to the way the tire 'ramps up'
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    So I mounted the tire 'backwards'.
    I did a quick ride around the block at 15 PSI to seat everything, and started dropping the PSI. I got to 11 before any noticable 'self-steer' started. Even then, the Billie has it hands down over the Mission it replaces, and doesn't attempt to drag the bars out of your hands while riding off camber.
    I also like the way the new Billie fills the gap in the fork, and appears more aggressive than the Mission.
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    Now all I need is a little time to give it a proper test run.
    The tread wrap on these are very, very poor.

    One of the reasons Nate grips like mad in the slick is because of the tread width. It makes for better off-camber and cornering grip, but it also helps with forward motion once you drop the PSI and all the knobs are making contact.

    They needed to add another row of shoulder knobs, or space the tread out more. Big bummer. Hopefully their other tires aren't also a narrow little strip of tread on a huge casing like the snowshoe/h Billie.
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    That's not really a fair assessment there. I wouldn't be comparing the Nate to the Billie, that's kind of like saying a Minion has more traction than a Icon, true but it's not the same application. The Nate is the most aggressive tire in that size currently, and in my case it would be too much tire for my trails. I think the billie/dozer is more along the lines of the knard/larry kind of tread. Perfect for shuttling to the trails and works well on my 60mm rim.
    The other great thing about these Vee tires is that QBP has lowered the prices on their tires across the board...

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldskipper View Post
    That's not really a fair assessment there. I wouldn't be comparing the Nate to the Billie, that's kind of like saying a Minion has more traction than a Icon, true but it's not the same application. The Nate is the most aggressive tire in that size currently, and in my case it would be too much tire for my trails. I think the billie/dozer is more along the lines of the knard/larry kind of tread. Perfect for shuttling to the trails and works well on my 60mm rim.
    The other great thing about these Vee tires is that QBP has lowered the prices on their tires across the board...
    It's not the aggressiveness of the tread, it's the wrap, or lack thereof. Both Larry and Knard have great tread wrap. These seem like great tires otherwise. Silica compound is a great idea for winter. Just that one glaring design flaw will prevent me from buying.

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    I just took my Bulldozers of. Even though they seemed to perform great my OCD was going nuts just looking at the front tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I just took my Bulldozers of. Even though they seemed to perform great my OCD was going nuts just looking at the front tire.
    My OCD is going nuts looking at your typo, Bob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    80mm rims? I can't wait.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    My OCD is going nuts looking at your typo, Bob.
    Sorry I should really wear my glasses, old eyes suck!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Sorry I should really wear my glasses, old eyes suck!!
    Hey leave me you of this. My Bulldozers are somewhere between here and Michigan.
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