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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    That looks incredible, Bob. What's the geo of the frame, particularly HTA & CS length?
    Thanks!! The Head tube is at 69.8 with a 468mm c-r and including th 15mm stack height of the lower headset. So with the Bluto at 100mm should be right around 68.8 with sag. I was going to lower the Bluto to 80mm to keep the angle right at the 69.8 but I am really liking where it is at now. The cs length is set at 17.5" but can be moved back to around 18.2 if I choose to for winter. I really wanted to keep it versatile and I really like a little longer cs when I get in snow but so far I am digging the 17.5 on the hard pack.
    And I love beer!!

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    nice
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    After getting some good quality snow time set up rigid I am really enjoying the shorter stays and the handling. Also the Light Bike 90's have been holding tubeless great down to 3 ps1. Liking the Ground Controls as well, not quit the kung fu grip of the Lou but they spin up a lot easier.
    And I love beer!!

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    Yea baby. Fug that's a hot bike.

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    Looks great Bob. Nice to hear you have some proper snow. What are the chain-stays at the shortest?

    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    After getting some good quality snow time set up rigid I am really enjoying the shorter stays and the handling. Also the Light Bike 90's have been holding tubeless great down to 3 ps1. Liking the Ground Controls as well, not quit the kung fu grip of the Lou but they spin up a lot easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoo View Post
    Looks great Bob. Nice to hear you have some proper snow. What are the chain-stays at the shortest?
    Thanks Steven and frozenmonkey!!

    The shortest is only at a smidge under 17.5" which isn't super short but it seams to be a ok, wish I could go shorter just to experiment but I can't, oh well.
    And I love beer!!

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    Gorgeous bike! I live about 30 minutes from Twenty2 Cycles and dream of owning one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Thanks Steven and frozenmonkey!!

    The shortest is only at a smidge under 17.5" which isn't super short but it seams to be a ok, wish I could go shorter just to experiment but I can't, oh well.
    With your 68.8* HTA...looks like you were headed into Mikesees geo conclusions before he posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Rat View Post
    With your 68.8* HTA...looks like you were headed into Mikesees geo conclusions before he posted!
    Yeah kinda but I think his idea of short is shorter yet but I'm happy with what I ended up with. That being said I get more traction than my legs can tackle right now as it is, need to drop back down to a 26t or 28t for winter.
    And I love beer!!

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    Thats about what I am running, mine is 442mm. I think I will go 4 to 6mm longer next time if I don't go adjustable. I ran Lou on a UMA 90mm with a tube and it was close. Bud was almost too tall to run at all on the rear. I run all of my other tire tubeless.

    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Thanks Steven and frozenmonkey!!

    The shortest is only at a smidge under 17.5" which isn't super short but it seams to be a ok, wish I could go shorter just to experiment but I can't, oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoo View Post
    Thats about what I am running, mine is 442mm. I think I will go 4 to 6mm longer next time if I don't go adjustable. I ran Lou on a UMA 90mm with a tube and it was close. Bud was almost too tall to run at all on the rear. I run all of my other tire tubeless.
    That is the main reason I went adjustable, I haven't tried it yet but it was not made to fit bud or lou at 446mm but it might fit.. I didn't want any stays to be flattened, kinked, or dented and yet I wanted to fit at least a 32t chainring. I think in the long run it also made the frame a little stiffer than some ti by keeping the rear tubing in more of it's original round shape.
    And I love beer!!

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