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    Tubless fat tire

    Pros and Cons. Please weigh in your opinion.

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    More supple, less puncture flats, can run lower psi without pinch flats, less rolling weight, less $ on tubes.

    The only con I can think of is not being able to swap tires quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazlow View Post
    Pros and Cons. Please weigh in your opinion.
    the search feature will reveal numerous threads with all the necessary info.

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    The search feature (more like "search failure!") is difficult to use well for me.

    Depending on your fatty tubeless setup/scheme.......less rolling weight is not an attribute of most tubeless fatty setups. FYI IMho FWIW YMMV LOL

    Less rolling resistance than tubes IS an attribute of tubeless> (though I am not sure we have quantified the data) (search function for that???) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post
    The search feature (more like "search failure!") is difficult to use well for me.
    I find that it's much easier to type in "use the search feature" and add to my post count, than it is to actually be useful in a post.

    I'm also looking for a truly compelling reason to try tubeless, and I've yet to see it, plus I'm now subscribed without having to use that painful Subscribe to This Thread button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashtestdummy View Post
    I'm also looking for a truly compelling reason to try tubeless, and I've yet to see it
    I read that all the cool guys do it
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    wheelies, beyond being the best way over any sort of obstacle, both above or below, are are the steedliest expresstion of joy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    I read that all the cool guys do it
    have you had a eye exam as of late??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    have you had a eye exam as of late??
    Actually, I subscribe to these to watch you spar with the cool guys

    OP look for ozzybmx's thread on the subject. Good post
    Quote Originally Posted by davidarnott
    wheelies, beyond being the best way over any sort of obstacle, both above or below, are are the steedliest expresstion of joy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    Actually, I subscribe to these to watch you spar with the cool guys

    OP look for ozzybmx's thread on the subject. Good post
    mums the word..........ozzy's is a good read though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raul34 View Post
    More supple, less puncture flats, can run lower psi without pinch flats, less rolling weight, less $ on tubes.

    The only con I can think of is not being able to swap tires quickly.
    But how much is spent on sealant and tape?
    Riding Fat and still just as fast as I never was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashtestdummy View Post
    But how much is spent on sealant and tape?
    not only that but the PSI is identical along with weight. and what do tubeless folks do when they do flat due to a puncture? install a toob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    not only that but the PSI is identical along with weight. and what do tubeless folks do when they do flat due to a puncture? install a toob.
    Nope.. Lower pressure with tubeless, half a pound lighter and IF I get a flat dunno, never happened but might just use stans and pump..

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    You know what helps make the search function work better? Spelling the most important word in your post title correctly. Hmph.

    I've been mountain biking for 25 years, fatbiking for almost 3, have a fleet of bikes, do my own builds and repairs and I've never run tubeless, ever. Always been curious, but never compelled to do it.

    My biggest reason for not running them on the fatbikes us that no rims and tires are designed to be tubeless yet, and I don't trust the so-called ghetto tubeless techniques. I barely trust the tubed rim/tire products that currently exist. The QC on the tires is especially bad, with ridiculously loose or poor fitting beads, and out-of-round tires. I haven't had a tire come off at speed yet, but I've heard the tales, and they often seem to involve going tubeless.

    Also, if you flat while tubeless out in the woods, how do you get the tire seated again without using a tube? (I know, you don't) So now you have a tube. Are you really gonna swap that out when you get home? I wouldn't, cuz I'm lazy.

    I think I'll switch to tubeless when I stop seeing threads about the pros and cons of going tubeless.

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    Oh **** I got 10 hours community service for using bad language.

    https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=si...hrome&ie=UTF-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post
    The search feature (more like "search failure!") is difficult to use well for me.
    I typed in "fatbike tubeless" into the search box top left of the page. Result #9 from the top:

    FATTY TUBELESS Summary of methods & ACTUAL WEIGHTS?

    a little deeper was this:

    tubeless fatbike made easy

    If I was prepared to invest more than 45 seconds on this search I could find a whole bunch more useful info.

    Just saying....
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    Zero flats. /thread
    And yes, gotta be part of the cool crowd to go tubeless.
    Riding.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I typed in "fatbike tubeless" into the search box top left of the page. Result #9 from the top:
    Is that like 'tire' and 'tyre'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyTS View Post
    Nope.. Lower pressure with tubeless, half a pound lighter and IF I get a flat dunno, never happened but might just use stans and pump..
    nope in either case sorry. Toobs can go down to 3psi with no problem and weigh the same or less. and if ya go any lower it's flat end of story so ya might as well huck it.

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    Small puncture resistance and weight saving are the 2 major reasons, I read about lower pressures but my findings were opposite, I don't need the super low pressures so rim hits are a non event for me. If anything the more supple casing with tubeless got me pumping 0.5-1psi more in the big-ole-bags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashtestdummy View Post
    But how much is spent on sealant and tape?
    Nevermind the cash, the time spent on my 5 attempts (2 sets of wheels) before I got it right blew the cost out of the water by 100:1

    Once dialled its a relatively painless process.... kinda
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    nope in either case sorry. Toobs can go down to 3psi with no problem and weigh the same or less. and if ya go any lower it's flat end of story so ya might as well huck it.
    I can't, the tyres start to slip on the rim.. so depends of the rim-tyre combo how down one can go. With tubeles no such issue..

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    I'm tubeless on my fat bike and mountain bike because I'm lazy. It's easier to put in two scoops of sealant than fuss with a tube. I really hate interupting a ride to change a tube on a ride because of a pinprick puncture that sealant can handle with no problem.

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    I've tried many different brands, sizes and keep going back to these. When new I can get them stretched out nice in the black floyds then transfer to the larry. I have not run them in the BFL yet. Winters, when we have them, don't beat me up as bad with puncture concerns anyway

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    I'm a tire changer so tubeless doesn't appeal to me, yet
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    Has anyone tried sealant in a tube? Any specific product recommendations?

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    My primary reason for running my BFLs tubeless is the same reason that all my MTBs are tubeless- the tires conform to the terrain a lot better without tubes. The difference in traction and ride quality is even more noticeable on the 4.7 BFLs than on a standard 2.35 MTB tire.

    I use Fatback Uma 90 rims, which have a bead locking ridge for running tubeless. The BFLs pop onto the bead tightly, just like a Stans rim, and I have had zero burps since converting. All they require are sealant, tape, and a valve, just like a Stans rim.

    A lot of the "tubeless doesn't work with fat tires" talk comes from people having limited success with ghetto conversions (split tube, foam strips, ect.) on rims that were not designed for tubeless use.

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